Chase systems discussion why wise guys and sharps DO NOT use them!

OK i see a lot of you talking about 6 game chases and 5 game chases etc...

I will not even think of using bases in any chase system becuse it's all ML bets.

SO we use it in baskets were you always ay -$110

HERES why i see it's not profitable because you say 6 games chase to WIN only $100

ok 1st game yoiu LOST - 110 2nd game now what yes you have to double up to win $100 so now it's $220 and you lost that your now negative - $330 am i doing this right?

so 3rd game of six game chase you need to wager an amount to win $430 because your stuck $330 so it's now wagering $660 to win $600 but 600 - 330 only = $270 profit? so it's lil more to win the

$330 back i'm seeing i need $690 nope still not enough i'm trying $700 now yes that would cover the $330 lost and give you $100 profit but now that 3rd chase lost so 700 + 330 = - 1030

so now you are stuck over $1000 and brother you better have a large bank roll to start with like at least $50,000 to get through the season.

I ll end the figures here and now show you a better way to win way more than $100 after 6 games flat bets period

lose 1 st through 5th i'm now down $550 at $100 per game or if i chose only 500 risked that is of course risk 100 to win 90 using the negative $500 figure on the 6th game i only need to wager
$620 which wins me $608 and i profit of $108

I like my way better i'm less than half of the 4th game Chase loss above at over $1000 negative and i won $8 more.

NOW you Chase system guys may chime in i'll stick with money management and solid handicapping picking my spots for Bases this year and show a way huge profit more than any chase system could produce.

you numbers are off. here are the numbers based on -110 lines to win $100: 

Stupid formatting, let's try again:

Why do guys waste your time with this guy? Those posts are brutal to read....what you can make out anyway. It's like reading a Dr. Seuss book written by a retard.

wow JEFF you really look stupid right now. Bart i'm sorry but your way wrong in math 10% juice of $200 is $20 the second wager is $220 to win $200 you now are in red with a loss $330..

JEFF find me ONE real wiseguy or sharp pro bettor that uses any Martingale system. Because where i live i have such players NONE ever use chase systems and I know one guy who worked in Vegas as a floor manger in his section HE never ever saw any real bettor use any chase system of any kind they came in played their games then went about the Casino to gamble.

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Oh by the way Buster, Bart is dead right you really need some math skills!

I will now put this puppy to bed with one article i found just now by googling DO CHASE SYSTEMS WORK in sports Betting !

With the advent of computers, it seems like there are thousands of sports betting systems sprinkled all over the internet today. And, as you may or may not know, most are basically a get rich scam promising you of riches in no time (This is not a reality in any business, let alone sports betting).

A system may be a good starting point, but you'll always need to look more into it from a subjective side. The reason why is because they're typically based on historical trends which may be relevant or absolutely meaningless.

Most of the more well known sports betting systems (Sports Betting Champ, Sports Betting Professor...etc) also utilize what's called a chase...which can be detrimental to your bankroll if you lose one of the chases. Typically they utilize a three game chase system.

Here is an example of a three game chase system: You would bet $110 to win $100 on Game 1. If you win then you won that chase. If you lose, then you bet what you lost plus what you were trying to win originally. So for Game 2, you would bet $231 to win $210

(originally trying to win $100 plus the $110 that you lost in Game 1 and also -110 juice equals the $231 to win $210 for Game 2).

If you win, then that chase series of bets is over, however if you lose, you then have to add up everything you've lost and add what you where originally trying to win ($100 plus the $110 lost in Game 1 plus the $231 that you lost in Game 2 and also -110 juice equals $486 to win $441).

So for Game 3 you would now wager $486 to win $441. If you win that, all is great, but if you lose then that's one heck of a chunk out of your bankroll (plus a lot of these systems being sold require to buy points or lay a lot more juice than the typical -110). You can see how it adds up quickly if you're losing.

Sports Betting System Reality

I know a lot of these so called sports sports betting systems claim to have 80%-97% winners but that's just not realistic. In reality they may be winning 80%-97% of their three games series' bets, but if you lose 2-3 of those Game three bets, that can wipe out a lot of your bankroll.

It certainly reads as if they're winning 80%-97% (which is mathematically impossible over the long run unless of course you have some kind of inside information) of every single bet they make, but in actuality it's only 80%-97% of there three game chases that they're winning.

It's basically a marketing ploy to get you to buy into what they're selling...and by the the success of this marketing these sports betting systems are touted everywhere on the internet.

With all of that said, I'm not trying to bash on them. I just want you to be aware of how they work and what to expect if you're to purchase one. You need to have a very strict money management strategy in place if you're to follow any of these systems (typically 1/4 to 1/2 of your normal unit size but I'll go into more detail with each system I review).

With so many people promoting them (extremely biased because they're getting paid), don't believe the hype that you're going to get rich quick. Every time I read a website that's touting how rich you're going to get from using such system, it just pisses me off.

Trust me, IT'S NOT REALITY. There's no such thing as a get rich quick sports betting system. Now, they can be another arrow in your sports betting quiver, but by no means should you rely solely on them.

Most range anywhere from $50 to $200 for a lifetime subscription. Some are good, some are ok, and some you just need to stay away from. Don't believe everything you read on their website because, obviously, they're just trying to sell you their service or product (and sometimes it's not the most ethical way to do it).

Like I said, there are some truly good sports betting systems out there today, but it's up to you to put in the time to validate the system as well as tweak it for factors that it can't account for i.e. injuries, weather...etc.

That's all good Buster I'm very aware of those services and how they are scammers. The problem is my systems in general have nothing to do with trends. The problem with most people when moving to a chase is they don't follow through.

OK JEFF now explain to me how a chase works that totally goes against MONEY MANAGEMENT.

AND above article proves MY math is Correct . Trust me i know had to add and subtract.

EVERY Chase system developed or used today is going against money management.

There fore shove your 6 game chase system up your nose until it comes out your ears.

Matter of fact i chased for years when i was young teen til was in late 20's wanna know where that got me?

How about negative $150,000 plus maybe more than $11,000 a year.

SO after stopping betting sports then developing handicapping systems testing them for 5 years and adding to them each year i now win every year using solid handicapping techniques and money management.

Only 3 pro sports NFL NBA and MLB.

YOU know who's chase system i want to use or systems for handicapping THE Guy who just about half a million this year in the LVH super contest!

There's a great system folks only invest $1750 make 5 plays per week average 3 per week your in the money! Guaranteed to win $10,000's of dollars.

NO chase system can ever do that with only a bank of $1750

yes if you chased and lost 5 straight games in any week or two weeks you would wind up out of the money at end losing 2 or more times 5 in a row or going 1- 4  just 5 weeks of losers like that would give you only maybe 45 points at end.

Because you have to make 5 plays per week chase systems stop soon as you win!

OOOOOOOO MY gawd there's the key Chase systems only continue on after a LOSS.
Why didn't my retard brain think of this?

LMFAO you fools who use chase systems it's for losers.

YOU only chase off a loss.

What a joke you are chasers double up after a loss

heaven forbid doubling up after YOU win OMFG thats a mortal sin and retarded in chase systems.

SHOVE the Labby system , The Morrison system and any other Chase system up your a ....s ....sss...es becuse they built on losses and break the # 1 Rule of successfull sports bettors

let me spell it out for you M O N E Y ---- M A N A G E M E N T

will make you win more than any chase system ever developed.

IF i lose one game my wager is reduced next game and next until i start winning there fore sustaining my bankroll for the season and allowing to me keep betting without reloading every other week.

yeah sure chase systems work for Vegas , Bookies and sports books they welcome you with open arms!

GO ahead go to Vegas start chasing see ya back home in few months.,

           

 

hey Jeff who said you use Trends? I never mentioned the word and I do not work for the books if i did i'd welcome you and all other chasers for a big fat bonus sign up and watch you all go broke or win a puny $100 a month.

Read this word again...M O N E Y ---- M A N A G E M E N T show me your Chase system does that.

YOU cannot Fool! Can YOU?

NO! so now go STFU Chases are for losers been there done that for decades so have millions of others.

YOU go chase I'll stick with proven methods and abide by the rules and keep winning. OR let me say this Keep Making Money!

IF i win just $50 a day for 5 days in bases lose 2 days I'm ahead for the week $150 X 24 weeks = a nice tidy sum of $3600 extra income.

hmm that can buy a new flat screen TV plus sound system.

BUT i play to win way more than $50 a day and increase my wagers after doubling my bank roll Because MY system is Built off WINNERS NOT Losers.

ARen't CHase systems are in effect after a LOSS yes?

ain't no trends here folks it's a system built off losses YOU stop chasing after a WIN, REad that again YOU stop chasing after a WIN.

Thanks you sir for that tirade, I can't stop laughing, my girlfriend asked why I'm laughing I said there's a genius on Covers and he's trying to tell me about sports handicapping! She said carry on, not possible. Sorry if your feathers got ruffled you keep betting your way and I will keep stacking the best way out there. If you did your research you would see that numerous systems on here have made a lot more money than your grinding style capper. It's just the easiest road to the cash. Some people enjoy the grind and spending countless hours pouring over statistics such as myself but I choose the fastest easiest way now!

i'm laughing at you just as hard and so are others just got done reading this thread and your other best system ever that generates 100% wins at 2641 -0 c'mon man i didn't fall out of  a tree today.

I been there and Back way before you turned 21.

I live in large city over 1 million population have locals to bet with that handle heavy hitters who would pay you 1000's$ for your chase system if it works and keep paying you 1000 $'s just to send them games by E mail.

kepp yeliing Jeff you may get contacted by some wiseguys and sharps who would give thier right arm and leg to go 2641 - 0 100% winners OMFG i'd be so rich after winning 2641 games i'd retire and buy an island.

Because i'd be wagering $10,000 or more every day.

after 1st month probablly have 2000 games X $10,000 i think we are in Billions or 10's of millions of Dollars.

fastest and easiest way ever greatsest system in the history of sports betting all Hail Jeff the Hat he will break Vegas with 100's of followers.

Hey PM with those emails, I'll gladly give my plays to them. I'm not scared!  I know my system works and the great thing is if it ever does lose 1 loss won't hurt a single bit, it would take about 5 losses in a season just to make me even. 

dont worry jeff if they want to they will they already have tears in their eyes from laughing so hard reading your chase system so don't bet on them contacting you!

HERES WHY chase systems will fail with only even a $500 starting bank and no juice watch this folks

Chase 1 YOU lost $10 Chase two you lost $20 Chase 3 you lost $40 Because you have to win $40 to be in profit $10 but you lost that also chase 4 now you have to wager $70 becuse your minus $60 $70 is 14% of bankroll OMFG your 9% over the max of %5

Chase 4 loses YOU now are down $130 chase 5 comes you now have to wager $140 to be ahead $10 NOT $100 $10

That losses YOUR now negative $270 BUT you only have $230 left out of $500 YOU need to wager $280 to win just $10 YOU cannot YOU only have $230 left so you wager the $230 and win chase 6 BUT omg your stuck $40.

shove you chase systems losers they are proven to not work

and please don't tell that YOU can sustain any season or year losing 5 games out of 6. Hell i can do that and only lose $170 playing footbal pools.

I'll stick with old proven methods from sharps and wiseguys who keep winning millions year.

Buster your killing me with your posts. Laughter is good medicine. Since you are 10 years my elder I will refrain from dissecting anymore of your dribble. Everybody except YOU in the systems forum knows that chase systems are superior to the grind as long as you use strict money mgmt. I'm just about ready to post the official thread for the 

and YET after i show example of Chaseing with no juice that you almost wiped out a $500 starting bank you still are laughing calling my post dribble.

YOU lie up front Jeff saying your system is 2641 - 0 and it's nothing NEW you only using the Chase systems before you which every one has proven to fail and blow bankroll's out of the water!

NO MFW IN h e LL can anyone win 100% 2641 and 0

that's why i will tell others chase systems are lies because YOU forgot to mention losses

if your 1st two chases go 1- 5 and 1 -5  that means what JEFF?

yes you LOST 10 foooking games and won 2 and even if you have $10,000 bank your not going to be very profitable for any season.

AS i said i will start with a $1000 bank for bases post my plays daily in MLB forum and end of 1st month see who MADE MORE CASH$$$

oooooo YES and don't talk about money management either because YOUR betting way over 5% max after 3 losses even minny $5 bets

add it up JEFF $5 + 10 = $15 + what next $30 needed to win $30 be ahead  $15 + $30 = $45 $45 is 9% of $500 bank

many reg bettors don't even have that to deposit in thier sports books they start with $100 one chase losing series wipes them out before they even get to game 6.

CARRY ON Jeff.

remember i been at this for 43 years I learned from MY losses

lets try this with juice in bases favorites and dogs just one chase

ain't no money management here guys because your doubling up and busting the MM fast at way over the 2% or even 5%

day win - 120 chalk 5$ wins you ok it's $6 to win 5 so 5 wins you $4

but you lost;;;; $500 is now $595 day 2 dog +150 $5 wins you $7.50
but you lost NOW your bank is $490 day 3 chalk -140 you need to win $10 YOU now have to risk $14 ok thats .028 % of $490

loses your now down $24 day 4 comes your bal is now $476 you have lost .048 % of your bank easyily to get into profit

it's chalk  of -120 you need to win $24 plus another $5 to be in profit of $5  $12 to win $10 $24 to win $20 $30 to win $25

$30 div. by $476 = .063% of bank your a full 1.3  % over the 5% max

BET the fav LOSE your now stuck $54 which is slightly over 10% of $500 bank lost day 5 comes nice dog +140 you need to win $59

to be in profit each $10 wins 14 thats 4.21 times that amount bet $42.14 to win $59 but lets keep easier it's $42.00 needed

any way it loses your now stuck $96 which is .192% of $500 bank your losing way more than 5% of bank and day 6 comes you need to win 96$ + $5 to be in profit just $5 another dog is available
+130 thats $13 won for each $10 risked 101 $ div by $13 = 7.769 times to win that amount to profit $5  .... $96 + 45 = 101$ + $404 = $505 but your having bad start you lost 6th game YOUR now down a whopping $197 Bank is at $303 you have lost 39% of your start bank of $500 and now start 2nd 6 game chase

 it's a DOG +140 you need to win $197 + $5 to be in profit ok thats 1.5 times 140 for 210 $ win 140 + 70 = $210 needed out of $303

OMFG talk about busting MM you now have to bet .693% of your bank just to be in profit $5! wheres the MM at ?

YEAH you win YOUR ahaed $5 but problem now is YOU stop because you won 1st game of chase arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i'd fuooocking kill my self if i had to stop betting after i won i want to bet again that day to win again

not wait till next day to start another 6 game chase

or even same day now your back to betting $5 according to MM because your chasing losses remember?



I say FOOOOK THAT hard..........i want to Chase WINS I want to WIN money betting the same % as 1st game

shall we try this now short sample NOT doubling up
Start at day 3
3 chalk -140 you need to win $10 YOU now have to risk $14 ok thats .028 % of $490
BUT i';m strict with money ... 2 % of $490 = $9.80 i can only BET $10 which wins me $7 i think oh never mind we lost that $10

bank is now $480 day 4 we have a  chalk  of -120

$480 X 2 % = $9.60 allowed ok we go for 10$ to win i think $6  not profit yet because we are losing as in above example BUT losing way less money than chase systems.

ok it lost as in above example bank is now $470 x 2 % = $9.40

i cant still wager $10 next game 5 nice dog +140 i'm only stuck $30

bet $10 to win $14 arghhhh i lost again but only $10 bank is now $460 x 2 % = 9.20 ok we are cut down to $9 because that closer than going up to $10 i would need to wager .80 cents more.

remember strict MM any way we lost game 5 now bank is $451 above example your down to $404 big fooking difference ain't it?


game 6 comes $451 x 2 % = 9.02  ok we bet that +130 dog

but not $10 only $9 is allowed your handcuffed by MM

TY lord I lost again bank is now down to $442

next game  next day early game a dog +140  442 x 2 % = $8.84 we can go for $9 finally we win 0ok it would be $14 for every 10 so i guess only 13 for each 9 yeah about right 13 X 2 = 26    14 X 2 = 28

so our bank is now 442 + 9 risked + 13 won $464 X 2 %= $9.28

we like two late games both dogs + 120 +130 i can risk $18 so i'll make it easier go for $20 to $25 bang bang we win both games because i'm not using chase system of stopping start bal after bets was 444$  we won our $20 risk + 25 now bal is $489

x 2 % =$9.78 we go a win streak of 5 games favs and dogs but chase  system you stop after a win and go back to minimum wager of $5 I can stay at $10 per day and win way more than any chase system allows

shall we give example using all flat favs. -100  $10 to win 10$

I win $50 Chasers win $25 OMFG how easy is that to explain i won 100% more than Chase systems using strict MM

Chase game 1 WIN $5 start new chase game 1 YOU win $5 start again YOU win $5 game 1 of 3rd chase  game 1 of 4th chase YOU win $5 YOU won $20 ..you get to start new 6 game chase next game the 5th Chase YOU are allowed to bet only $5 YOU won $25 doing 5 differnt chases Because they say after you win YOU STOP the chase and start new chase.

IF i even added half $ to my 10$ look at these results BET ten win next game Bet $15 WIN + $25  3rd game BET $37 WIN + 62$ 4th game bet $93 Win = $155 won $155 +77 = $232 bet on 5th game

WIN that I now won $464 only adding half of amount yes lil bit above the % of 5% add that to $489 from above = $953 new bank $453 profit which is 90% of $500 starting bank.

I did not double up i just took advantage of a lil hot streak and now can survive a 10 game losing streak and still be in profit

shall we do it? YES flat favs all lost 953X2% = 19$ x 10 = - $190 (just example keeping post within charcter limits here )

$953 - $190 = $763 $263 profit and i lost 10 straight games.

try that chasing  losing ten straight games your broke!

 Love your posts buddy keeps the day full of laughter and for that I thank you! 

HEY jeff how about this since your system produces 100% as you declare  at 2641-0 for sure you can WIN the BIG survior prize of $100,000 you only need to pick 1 game per 7 days 21 straight winners easy pickins JEFF for you has to be right?

Also the only one who is laughing in my threads are YOU!
  SO Jeff you up for that challenge take the $100,000 prize here at Covers survivor you have whole season to win 21 straight games.

ok bart i'll seperate , punctuate , spell check from now!

Sorry i'm no typist or writer i only know what i need to do in betting sports is bet more winners than losers!


PEACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Stop bashing something that you don't even understand. You sound like an idiot, saying the same thing over and over.