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    Chase system for top teams in NBA

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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2008 - 2:35 PM ET #1

    I am not a huge fan of chase systems, but I was thinking about the likelihood of Boston, San Antonio, Dallas, or other top teams losing thre or four in a row. Would a chase system work in this case? Maybe wait until San Antonio loses. Then when they do lose, the next bet the moneyline for a unit. Then if they lose again, bet your losses plus a unit..... I know chase systems will risks a lot.....that is why I am asking the liklihood that a top NBA team loses 3 or 4 in a row. Would something like this work?
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    I am not a huge fan of chase systems, but I was thinking about the likelihood of Boston, San Antonio, Dallas, or other top teams losing thre or four in a row. Would a chase system work in this case? Maybe wait until San Antonio loses. Then when they do lose, the next bet the moneyline for a unit. Then if they lose again, bet your losses plus a unit..... I know chase systems will risks a lot.....that is why I am asking the liklihood that a top NBA team loses 3 or 4 in a row. Would something like this work?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2008 - 9:45 PM ET #2

    Lets take a look at it: The problem is i can't tell what the line is at.
    SPURS GAMES -
    1st game following a loss = 5-4
    2nd game following  2 losses = 4-0
    never lost 3 games in a row
    Boston Games-
    1st game following a loss = 5-1
    2nd game following  2 losses = 1-0
    Boston has only lost two in a row 1 time all season.
    Pistons games:
    1sgame following a loss = 6-3
    2nd game following 2 losses = 2-1
    3rd game following 3 losses = 1-0
    Detroit lost 2 games in a row 3 times but only had 1 three game losing skid.
    Phoenix games:
    1st game after a loss = 9-2
    2nd game after 2 losses 2-0
    never loss 3 games in a row
    Dallas games:
    1st game following a loss 6-3
    2nd game following 2 losses = 2-1
    3rd game following 3 losses = 1-0

    These really are the only 5 teams you have the lowest risks with. other teams that started out great that had a long losing streak was a team like the Magic.

    also should note that the amount you would have to put on some of these money lines are pretty outrageous and you don't even know if your book will have that money line.



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    Lets take a look at it: The problem is i can't tell what the line is at.
    SPURS GAMES -
    1st game following a loss = 5-4
    2nd game following  2 losses = 4-0
    never lost 3 games in a row
    Boston Games-
    1st game following a loss = 5-1
    2nd game following  2 losses = 1-0
    Boston has only lost two in a row 1 time all season.
    Pistons games:
    1sgame following a loss = 6-3
    2nd game following 2 losses = 2-1
    3rd game following 3 losses = 1-0
    Detroit lost 2 games in a row 3 times but only had 1 three game losing skid.
    Phoenix games:
    1st game after a loss = 9-2
    2nd game after 2 losses 2-0
    never loss 3 games in a row
    Dallas games:
    1st game following a loss 6-3
    2nd game following 2 losses = 2-1
    3rd game following 3 losses = 1-0

    These really are the only 5 teams you have the lowest risks with. other teams that started out great that had a long losing streak was a team like the Magic.

    also should note that the amount you would have to put on some of these money lines are pretty outrageous and you don't even know if your book will have that money line.



     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2008 - 9:49 PM ET #3

    If you played with Phoenix, Boston and the Pistons you would be
    20-6 following the first game loses, assuming you follow the systems to win $20 unit you would be up approx. $280 if you followed the 6 loses through to the second and third round in the Pistons case. That is a long time to make $280. But as we did note it is guaranteed assuming your book will always have ML'S
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    If you played with Phoenix, Boston and the Pistons you would be
    20-6 following the first game loses, assuming you follow the systems to win $20 unit you would be up approx. $280 if you followed the 6 loses through to the second and third round in the Pistons case. That is a long time to make $280. But as we did note it is guaranteed assuming your book will always have ML'S
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2008 - 10:18 PM ET #4

    Well, it seems that most of those games were decided after the third loss. It would be a chase system which had a cutoff. But you are right. The price would be high. Well, it was a thought.
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    Well, it seems that most of those games were decided after the third loss. It would be a chase system which had a cutoff. But you are right. The price would be high. Well, it was a thought.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2008 - 10:19 PM ET #5

    For the 5 teams you mentioned, it does seem that game after a loss has a high winning percentage. You could only go 2 games deep...and if you don't win your money back by then, then reset.
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    For the 5 teams you mentioned, it does seem that game after a loss has a high winning percentage. You could only go 2 games deep...and if you don't win your money back by then, then reset.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2008 - 8:30 AM ET #6

    For instance tonights games would be:
    Spurs ML @Seattle
    Boston ML @ Miami

    Spurs lost their last 2 guaranteed victory tonight, Boston lost their last game and should win tonight.

    However what are these ML going to come at to win $20 is it really worth it? It still is $20 so if you have the bankroll in your account, why not?
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    For instance tonights games would be:
    Spurs ML @Seattle
    Boston ML @ Miami

    Spurs lost their last 2 guaranteed victory tonight, Boston lost their last game and should win tonight.

    However what are these ML going to come at to win $20 is it really worth it? It still is $20 so if you have the bankroll in your account, why not?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2008 - 11:50 AM ET #7

    Lets see how this system works:
    Spurs ML -330 $66 to win $20
    Celtics ML -350 $70 to win $20

    Spurs are on game 3 of the chaise, they are 4-0 straight up they have yet to lose 3 games in a row this season
    Celtics are 5-1straight up when they are coming off a loss

    you could even parlay this one with a good chance at covering.
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    Lets see how this system works:
    Spurs ML -330 $66 to win $20
    Celtics ML -350 $70 to win $20

    Spurs are on game 3 of the chaise, they are 4-0 straight up they have yet to lose 3 games in a row this season
    Celtics are 5-1straight up when they are coming off a loss

    you could even parlay this one with a good chance at covering.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2008 - 9:04 AM ET #8

    1-1 Last night... in reality both plays should have been voided with big injuries to the stars

    Boston - Ray Allen & KG out but still
    San Antonio- Tony Parker out

    YTD 1-1 -$46

    NEXT PLAY WOULD SAY PLAY SPURS @ PHOENIX ON THURSDAY, I THINK YOU MIGHT GET ANOTHER L
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    1-1 Last night... in reality both plays should have been voided with big injuries to the stars

    Boston - Ray Allen & KG out but still
    San Antonio- Tony Parker out

    YTD 1-1 -$46

    NEXT PLAY WOULD SAY PLAY SPURS @ PHOENIX ON THURSDAY, I THINK YOU MIGHT GET ANOTHER L
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2008 - 9:09 AM ET #9

    Thursday should be exciting with head to head matchups between 4 of the 5 teams we are studying

    Spurs @ Suns
    Mavericks @ Celtics

    Then
    Lakers @ Pistons

    Inevitably we will got one of the teams we are studying with a huge L, giving us plays for Friday
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    Thursday should be exciting with head to head matchups between 4 of the 5 teams we are studying

    Spurs @ Suns
    Mavericks @ Celtics

    Then
    Lakers @ Pistons

    Inevitably we will got one of the teams we are studying with a huge L, giving us plays for Friday
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2008 - 11:39 AM ET #10

    Although I would not reccomend it right now but if you follow the system the Spurs game tonight you have interesting underdog ML situation.

    +245

    You take what you bet on the first game $66 +$20 to win =$86 x 2.45 = $210.70 would be your bet if this line was @ -245.

    you just need to win $86 in this situation the bet would be $35.10 you can get this by dividing $86 (amount lost +units you need to win) divide that number by the +line of $2.45 = 35.10 to win $86

    = +$20

    However the Spurs are without T. Parker their MVP on the road against one of the other 4 teams we bet on in this system. System would be NO BET.
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    Although I would not reccomend it right now but if you follow the system the Spurs game tonight you have interesting underdog ML situation.

    +245

    You take what you bet on the first game $66 +$20 to win =$86 x 2.45 = $210.70 would be your bet if this line was @ -245.

    you just need to win $86 in this situation the bet would be $35.10 you can get this by dividing $86 (amount lost +units you need to win) divide that number by the +line of $2.45 = 35.10 to win $86

    = +$20

    However the Spurs are without T. Parker their MVP on the road against one of the other 4 teams we bet on in this system. System would be NO BET.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2008 - 11:51 AM ET #11

    Next possible GAMES in the system will come tonight either with one of these outcomes below: (inevitable since 2 of the teams will lose since they play each other:
    tonight:
    SUNS LOSS.........Then bet SUNS ML vs CHAR 2/4
    SPURS LOSS........Then bet SPURS ml @ IND
    PISTONS LOSS.......vs. mavericks ml 2/3
    MAVERICKS LOSS vs. pistons ml 2/3
    CELTICS LOSS ----------THEN BET CELTICS ML @ CAVS (2/5)
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    Next possible GAMES in the system will come tonight either with one of these outcomes below: (inevitable since 2 of the teams will lose since they play each other:
    tonight:
    SUNS LOSS.........Then bet SUNS ML vs CHAR 2/4
    SPURS LOSS........Then bet SPURS ml @ IND
    PISTONS LOSS.......vs. mavericks ml 2/3
    MAVERICKS LOSS vs. pistons ml 2/3
    CELTICS LOSS ----------THEN BET CELTICS ML @ CAVS (2/5)
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2008 - 11:53 AM ET #12

    last night

    Spurs Won- streak ended units won

    new streaks to start

    Dallas loss play 2/3 @pistons---- no play vs top team
    Sunds loss play suns ml vs. Charl 2/4
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    last night

    Spurs Won- streak ended units won

    new streaks to start

    Dallas loss play 2/3 @pistons---- no play vs top team
    Sunds loss play suns ml vs. Charl 2/4
     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2008 - 9:31 AM ET #13

    Dallas @ Orlando tonight
    play Dallas ML they are underdogs. and they have not lost three games straight all season.

    some may have this as a no play considering Dallas is without D George and Stackhouse.
    i may play this one.

    Suns ML would also be a play but we can not get they are 14.5 favs against charlotte
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    Dallas @ Orlando tonight
    play Dallas ML they are underdogs. and they have not lost three games straight all season.

    some may have this as a no play considering Dallas is without D George and Stackhouse.
    i may play this one.

    Suns ML would also be a play but we can not get they are 14.5 favs against charlotte
     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2008 - 10:06 AM ET #14

    mavericks +160

    the chase begins 12.50 to win 20
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    mavericks +160

    the chase begins 12.50 to win 20
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2008 - 9:18 AM ET #15

    Mavericks
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2008 - 8:34 AM ET #16

    System has been dead for a while I have been bouncing around to try others.

    Tonights plays:

    Spurs ML
    Dallas  ML


    Spurs lost @ boston while the Mavericks lost @ New Jersey yesterday. Spurs are still without Tony Parker while Dallas seems to be healthy.

    Both seem to be like logical plays.
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    System has been dead for a while I have been bouncing around to try others.

    Tonights plays:

    Spurs ML
    Dallas  ML


    Spurs lost @ boston while the Mavericks lost @ New Jersey yesterday. Spurs are still without Tony Parker while Dallas seems to be healthy.

    Both seem to be like logical plays.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2008 - 4:50 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by fritz218:

    System has been dead for a while I have been bouncing around to try others.

    Tonights plays:

    Spurs ML
    Dallas  ML


    Spurs lost @ boston while the Mavericks lost @ New Jersey yesterday. Spurs are still without Tony Parker while Dallas seems to be healthy.

    Both seem to be like logical plays.

    You said this system had been "dead" for awhile.  It it because there are not hardly any plays or has it been doing badly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fritz218:

    System has been dead for a while I have been bouncing around to try others.

    Tonights plays:

    Spurs ML
    Dallas  ML


    Spurs lost @ boston while the Mavericks lost @ New Jersey yesterday. Spurs are still without Tony Parker while Dallas seems to be healthy.

    Both seem to be like logical plays.

    You said this system had been "dead" for awhile.  It it because there are not hardly any plays or has it been doing badly?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2008 - 5:08 PM ET #18

    Sweet payback if the Spurs and Dalls ML hits.  A +2.25 to 1 payback.
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    Sweet payback if the Spurs and Dalls ML hits.  A +2.25 to 1 payback.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2008 - 6:44 PM ET #19

    There has not been plays because the top teams have been facing off against each other as well as I have been concentrating on Valience road trip strategy. as well as my ML parlay.  Nothing tonight so I rolled tot his trategy and saw their are some plays. I will have to update the rest later tonight as far as the records go.
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    There has not been plays because the top teams have been facing off against each other as well as I have been concentrating on Valience road trip strategy. as well as my ML parlay.  Nothing tonight so I rolled tot his trategy and saw their are some plays. I will have to update the rest later tonight as far as the records go.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2008 - 3:12 PM ET #20

    HAVE AN UPDATED SPREADSHEET ON THIS WRITE ON MY SPACE IF YOU WANT ME TO EMAIL IT TO YOU.

    I added the Lakers and hornets to see how this would work

    Lakers:
    Game 1 (9-3)
    Game 2 (1-2)
    Game 3 (2-0)

    Hornets:
    Game 1 (5-4)
    Game 2 (2-2)
    Game 3 (2-0)

    Spurs:
    game 1 (6-5)
    Game 2 (4-1)
    Game 3 (1-0)

    Suns:
    Game 1 (11-2)
    Game 2 (2-0)

    Celtics:
    Game 1 (7-1)
    Game 2 (1-0)

    mavericks:
    Game 1 (6-5)
    Game 2 (3-1)
    Game 3(1-0)

    Overall:
    Game 1 (44-20) 68.75%
    Game 2 (10-5) 66%
    Game 3 (9-0)

    System so far this season 63-0  if you chase each bet to the 3rd game which is hard to do given the juice you are getting in some of these ML matchups and some ML you won't get them at all.

    ANY THOUGHT OR CRITICISM OR ADVICE ON HOW TO IMPROVE LET ME KNOW.

    CELTICS, SUNS, LAKERS
    GAME 1: (27-6) 82%
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    HAVE AN UPDATED SPREADSHEET ON THIS WRITE ON MY SPACE IF YOU WANT ME TO EMAIL IT TO YOU.

    I added the Lakers and hornets to see how this would work

    Lakers:
    Game 1 (9-3)
    Game 2 (1-2)
    Game 3 (2-0)

    Hornets:
    Game 1 (5-4)
    Game 2 (2-2)
    Game 3 (2-0)

    Spurs:
    game 1 (6-5)
    Game 2 (4-1)
    Game 3 (1-0)

    Suns:
    Game 1 (11-2)
    Game 2 (2-0)

    Celtics:
    Game 1 (7-1)
    Game 2 (1-0)

    mavericks:
    Game 1 (6-5)
    Game 2 (3-1)
    Game 3(1-0)

    Overall:
    Game 1 (44-20) 68.75%
    Game 2 (10-5) 66%
    Game 3 (9-0)

    System so far this season 63-0  if you chase each bet to the 3rd game which is hard to do given the juice you are getting in some of these ML matchups and some ML you won't get them at all.

    ANY THOUGHT OR CRITICISM OR ADVICE ON HOW TO IMPROVE LET ME KNOW.

    CELTICS, SUNS, LAKERS
    GAME 1: (27-6) 82%
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