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    Anyone willing to teach me how to handicap ncaaf and nfl?

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    cocksrule
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2008 - 1:46 PM ET #1

    10 years ago I used JIM FIEST's magazine and he discused money management and tips on trends and so fourth. One trend I remember was to take the away dog vs home fav coming  off 3 straight road games that were close. I picked up a 70% nfl winner the other week, taking the home dog getting (+3 or more) after losing last game by 21 or more points. However this is not the info I am seeking!!
    Vagas puts out a point spread on every game. How do they come up with that spread? This is what I am looking for. I have seen people post on here that they had a game spread at a higher or lower # than vagas. How do you point spread a game? Can and will anyone out there help me with this? I want to learn how to handicapp!!!!
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    10 years ago I used JIM FIEST's magazine and he discused money management and tips on trends and so fourth. One trend I remember was to take the away dog vs home fav coming  off 3 straight road games that were close. I picked up a 70% nfl winner the other week, taking the home dog getting (+3 or more) after losing last game by 21 or more points. However this is not the info I am seeking!!
    Vagas puts out a point spread on every game. How do they come up with that spread? This is what I am looking for. I have seen people post on here that they had a game spread at a higher or lower # than vagas. How do you point spread a game? Can and will anyone out there help me with this? I want to learn how to handicapp!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2008 - 2:05 PM ET #2

    Other info I learned from Jim was to pick one or two confrences and only bet on those games. Games that you can actualy watch and get as much info on as possible. Stats are important but do not tell the whole story of a game. However this was before the internet became what it is today but I still believe what he said to be true. I watch games ( SEC and ACC) and have done good so far but want to get better and more technical in my handicaping. Take this week for instance.
     
    FLO - 21 vs S.C.
    CLEMSUX -12 vs Duke
     
    I personaly don't see Flo beating SC by 21 points!!! How did vagas come up with that #? This is the Question? Do YOU have the answer?
    Thank you in advance!!!
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    Other info I learned from Jim was to pick one or two confrences and only bet on those games. Games that you can actualy watch and get as much info on as possible. Stats are important but do not tell the whole story of a game. However this was before the internet became what it is today but I still believe what he said to be true. I watch games ( SEC and ACC) and have done good so far but want to get better and more technical in my handicaping. Take this week for instance.
     
    FLO - 21 vs S.C.
    CLEMSUX -12 vs Duke
     
    I personaly don't see Flo beating SC by 21 points!!! How did vagas come up with that #? This is the Question? Do YOU have the answer?
    Thank you in advance!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2008 - 3:05 PM ET #3

    Nobody gonna show you. You gotta learn you own tricks...But, one advice I can give you is that "NEVER TRUST HOTLINE". You will be in a DEEP SHxT
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    Nobody gonna show you. You gotta learn you own tricks...But, one advice I can give you is that "NEVER TRUST HOTLINE". You will be in a DEEP SHxT
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2008 - 6:58 PM ET #4

     You can buy some very good programs on the internet.You can run countless stats using them and see what the results are. Some programs give you formulas to use that have long term winning patterns.You must use things that have worked long term. Most people throw money at games with aimless ways of coming to their conclusions . You must express good money management,  place your  money only when the lines are good, and use formulas that have workd long term! That is the only way to profits. Look on the internet and you can find some good programs that offer a lot of very good information.
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     You can buy some very good programs on the internet.You can run countless stats using them and see what the results are. Some programs give you formulas to use that have long term winning patterns.You must use things that have worked long term. Most people throw money at games with aimless ways of coming to their conclusions . You must express good money management,  place your  money only when the lines are good, and use formulas that have workd long term! That is the only way to profits. Look on the internet and you can find some good programs that offer a lot of very good information.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 1:58 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by cocksrule:

    Other info I learned from Jim was to pick one or two confrences and only bet on those games. Games that you can actualy watch and get as much info on as possible. Stats are important but do not tell the whole story of a game. However this was before the internet became what it is today but I still believe what he said to be true. I watch games ( SEC and ACC) and have done good so far but want to get better and more technical in my handicaping. Take this week for instance.
     
    FLO - 21 vs S.C.
    CLEMSUX -12 vs Duke
     
    I personaly don't see Flo beating SC by 21 points!!! How did vagas come up with that #? This is the Question? Do YOU have the answer?
    Thank you in advance!!!

    FLA game..

                  overall       Home/away
                  AF-AA     AF-AA
    SOCAR  24.0-15.6  24.0-21.7
    FLA        42.8-11.9 45.2-14.0 

    This is how they come up with 21 pts...

    AF - Offense
    AA - Defense

    Overall
    FLA (AF) 42.8 - SC (AF) 24 = FLA +18
    FLA (AA) 11.9 - SC (AF) 15.6 = FL +3.7
    Total = FLA +21.7

    You can do the math for Home/Away

    That is how they figured out the spread....

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocksrule:

    Other info I learned from Jim was to pick one or two confrences and only bet on those games. Games that you can actualy watch and get as much info on as possible. Stats are important but do not tell the whole story of a game. However this was before the internet became what it is today but I still believe what he said to be true. I watch games ( SEC and ACC) and have done good so far but want to get better and more technical in my handicaping. Take this week for instance.
     
    FLO - 21 vs S.C.
    CLEMSUX -12 vs Duke
     
    I personaly don't see Flo beating SC by 21 points!!! How did vagas come up with that #? This is the Question? Do YOU have the answer?
    Thank you in advance!!!

    FLA game..

                  overall       Home/away
                  AF-AA     AF-AA
    SOCAR  24.0-15.6  24.0-21.7
    FLA        42.8-11.9 45.2-14.0 

    This is how they come up with 21 pts...

    AF - Offense
    AA - Defense

    Overall
    FLA (AF) 42.8 - SC (AF) 24 = FLA +18
    FLA (AA) 11.9 - SC (AF) 15.6 = FL +3.7
    Total = FLA +21.7

    You can do the math for Home/Away

    That is how they figured out the spread....

     

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2008 - 9:01 AM ET #6

    money management  and a good system will help you win in the long term.  Big profits in short term are nice, but in the long run you will lose that way.  Do you like taking the favorite side of a event?
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    money management  and a good system will help you win in the long term.  Big profits in short term are nice, but in the long run you will lose that way.  Do you like taking the favorite side of a event?
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