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    VilenceAlliance
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 1:28 AM ET #101

    today's recap

    1. spurs @ wizards game 1
    2. bulls @ blazers game 1
    3. lakers @ hawks game 1
    4. hornets @ suns game 3
    5. clippers @ celtics game 1 (push)
    3-1-1, no plays tomorrow, next plays on Friday...
    1. Spurs @ Knicks
    2. Clippers @ Toronto
    3. Wizards @ Denver
    4. Blazers @ Pistons

    all game 1 plays
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    today's recap

    1. spurs @ wizards game 1
    2. bulls @ blazers game 1
    3. lakers @ hawks game 1
    4. hornets @ suns game 3
    5. clippers @ celtics game 1 (push)
    3-1-1, no plays tomorrow, next plays on Friday...
    1. Spurs @ Knicks
    2. Clippers @ Toronto
    3. Wizards @ Denver
    4. Blazers @ Pistons

    all game 1 plays
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 3:47 AM ET #102

    Just want to make sure i am following you correctly in the adjusted system.
     
     1. bet all road trips of 3 games or more.
     
     2. buy 3 points for the road team.
     
     3. restart if there's 3 games left in the trip.
     
    i'm not sure about some of the rest.
     
    game 1- bet 5units to win 3, if a win, start the the series over if there are at least 3 games left,if a loss, move to game 2.
     
    game 2- not betting this game (old system would have you bet 13 units to win 8) but if a win start the series over if there are 3 games left in the trip.
     
    game 3- bet 26 units to win 16. win or lose, if there are at least 3 games left in the trip restart the series, if not it is over, too much to chase a fourth game. (this was the one i wasn't sure about)
     
    one other question, are we using the best and the worst road teams, the old system said not to.
     
    thanks for all time you put into researching these systems, looks like a nice money maker.
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    Just want to make sure i am following you correctly in the adjusted system.
     
     1. bet all road trips of 3 games or more.
     
     2. buy 3 points for the road team.
     
     3. restart if there's 3 games left in the trip.
     
    i'm not sure about some of the rest.
     
    game 1- bet 5units to win 3, if a win, start the the series over if there are at least 3 games left,if a loss, move to game 2.
     
    game 2- not betting this game (old system would have you bet 13 units to win 8) but if a win start the series over if there are 3 games left in the trip.
     
    game 3- bet 26 units to win 16. win or lose, if there are at least 3 games left in the trip restart the series, if not it is over, too much to chase a fourth game. (this was the one i wasn't sure about)
     
    one other question, are we using the best and the worst road teams, the old system said not to.
     
    thanks for all time you put into researching these systems, looks like a nice money maker.
     
    fritz218
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 8:20 AM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by VilenceAlliance:

    today's recap

    1. spurs @ wizards game 1
    2. bulls @ blazers game 1
    3. lakers @ hawks game 1
    4. hornets @ suns game 3
    5. clippers @ celtics game 1 (push)
    3-1-1, no plays tomorrow, next plays on Friday...
    1. Spurs @ Knicks
    2. Clippers @ Toronto
    3. Wizards @ Denver
    4. Blazers @ Pistons

    all game 1 plays



    3-1 I didn't bet the clippers game nice job i'll be with you on the next round as well! It is hard to get to excited though as I am playing these to win $5 haha. Thanks again for the wins!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VilenceAlliance:

    today's recap

    1. spurs @ wizards game 1
    2. bulls @ blazers game 1
    3. lakers @ hawks game 1
    4. hornets @ suns game 3
    5. clippers @ celtics game 1 (push)
    3-1-1, no plays tomorrow, next plays on Friday...
    1. Spurs @ Knicks
    2. Clippers @ Toronto
    3. Wizards @ Denver
    4. Blazers @ Pistons

    all game 1 plays



    3-1 I didn't bet the clippers game nice job i'll be with you on the next round as well! It is hard to get to excited though as I am playing these to win $5 haha. Thanks again for the wins!
     
    VilenceAlliance
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 12:22 PM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by bufsab86:

    Just want to make sure i am following you correctly in the adjusted system.
     
     1. bet all road trips of 3 games or more.
     
     2. buy 3 points for the road team.
     
     3. restart if there's 3 games left in the trip.
     
    i'm not sure about some of the rest.
     
    game 1- bet 5units to win 3, if a win, start the the series over if there are at least 3 games left,if a loss, move to game 2.
     
    game 2- not betting this game (old system would have you bet 13 units to win 8) but if a win start the series over if there are 3 games left in the trip.
     
    game 3- bet 26 units to win 16. win or lose, if there are at least 3 games left in the trip restart the series, if not it is over, too much to chase a fourth game. (this was the one i wasn't sure about)
     
    one other question, are we using the best and the worst road teams, the old system said not to.
     
    thanks for all time you put into researching these systems, looks like a nice money maker.


    game 1 bet has now become what game 2 bet would have been...

    • game 1
      • bet 13 to win 8
    • game 2
      • pass
    • game 3 bet 26 to win 16
    to make it simpler in my own bets, I've increased my unit worth and decreased my unit size, so now my bets look like...
    • game 1
      • bet 10 to win 6
    • game 2
      • pass
    • game 3 bet 20 to win 12
    either way will work. the road trip has to be at least 3 games long, you move on after a win in a 3 game series or after there are only 2 games left in the series, so let's look at a recent series Chi had...
    • Series 1
      • Game 1 @ Min - L
      • Game 2 @ Sac - W (but it was a Pass, but because they won, the system resets)
    • Series 2
      • Game 1 @ Seattle - W
    • Series 3
      • Game 1 @ Portland - W
    • Series OVER because only 2 games left
      • @ Golden St
      • @ Utah
    so on that road trip, your record would have been 2-1, but you still would have been up +1 unit (if you were betting 5 to win 3), the point of this system is to increase your bankroll in small margins numerous times over
      • Game 3 @

    SacramentoSeattlePortlandGolden StateUtah


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    Quote Originally Posted by bufsab86:

    Just want to make sure i am following you correctly in the adjusted system.
     
     1. bet all road trips of 3 games or more.
     
     2. buy 3 points for the road team.
     
     3. restart if there's 3 games left in the trip.
     
    i'm not sure about some of the rest.
     
    game 1- bet 5units to win 3, if a win, start the the series over if there are at least 3 games left,if a loss, move to game 2.
     
    game 2- not betting this game (old system would have you bet 13 units to win 8) but if a win start the series over if there are 3 games left in the trip.
     
    game 3- bet 26 units to win 16. win or lose, if there are at least 3 games left in the trip restart the series, if not it is over, too much to chase a fourth game. (this was the one i wasn't sure about)
     
    one other question, are we using the best and the worst road teams, the old system said not to.
     
    thanks for all time you put into researching these systems, looks like a nice money maker.


    game 1 bet has now become what game 2 bet would have been...

    • game 1
      • bet 13 to win 8
    • game 2
      • pass
    • game 3 bet 26 to win 16
    to make it simpler in my own bets, I've increased my unit worth and decreased my unit size, so now my bets look like...
    • game 1
      • bet 10 to win 6
    • game 2
      • pass
    • game 3 bet 20 to win 12
    either way will work. the road trip has to be at least 3 games long, you move on after a win in a 3 game series or after there are only 2 games left in the series, so let's look at a recent series Chi had...
    • Series 1
      • Game 1 @ Min - L
      • Game 2 @ Sac - W (but it was a Pass, but because they won, the system resets)
    • Series 2
      • Game 1 @ Seattle - W
    • Series 3
      • Game 1 @ Portland - W
    • Series OVER because only 2 games left
      • @ Golden St
      • @ Utah
    so on that road trip, your record would have been 2-1, but you still would have been up +1 unit (if you were betting 5 to win 3), the point of this system is to increase your bankroll in small margins numerous times over
      • Game 3 @

    SacramentoSeattlePortlandGolden StateUtah


     
    VilenceAlliance
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 12:23 PM ET #105

    *disregard this last part of my last post*

    I meant to delete this before posting the last thread

      • Game 3 @




    Sacramento

    Seattle

    Portland

    Golden State

    Utah


    they were my notes, they have not relevance otherwise
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    *disregard this last part of my last post*

    I meant to delete this before posting the last thread

      • Game 3 @




    Sacramento

    Seattle

    Portland

    Golden State

    Utah


    they were my notes, they have not relevance otherwise
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 12:25 PM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by fritz218:




    3-1 I didn't bet the clippers game nice job i'll be with you on the next round as well! It is hard to get to excited though as I am playing these to win $5 haha. Thanks again for the wins!


    Fritz, the size of your bet doesn't really matter, just do what you feel comfortable with. I started using this system about 3 weeks ago or whatever it was when I started posting. I was playing with about $15 left in my account and now it's up over $80. I would suggest to slowly increase your unit worth every time you double your bankroll.

    Start with $20 bankroll, do $5 bets. Get to $40 start doing $7 bets, $80 start doing $9 bets...something like that.
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    3-1 I didn't bet the clippers game nice job i'll be with you on the next round as well! It is hard to get to excited though as I am playing these to win $5 haha. Thanks again for the wins!


    Fritz, the size of your bet doesn't really matter, just do what you feel comfortable with. I started using this system about 3 weeks ago or whatever it was when I started posting. I was playing with about $15 left in my account and now it's up over $80. I would suggest to slowly increase your unit worth every time you double your bankroll.

    Start with $20 bankroll, do $5 bets. Get to $40 start doing $7 bets, $80 start doing $9 bets...something like that.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 4:48 PM ET #107

    that is exactly what i do i had $200 a while ago in my account doubled it to $500 then started double wagering and went back down to $100 now i am up near 200 again. so we'll see.
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    that is exactly what i do i had $200 a while ago in my account doubled it to $500 then started double wagering and went back down to $100 now i am up near 200 again. so we'll see.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2008 - 2:50 AM ET #108

    Friday's plays

    1. Spurs @ Knicks
    2. Clippers @ Toronto
    3. Wizards @ Denver
    4. Blazers @ Pistons

    all game 1 plays
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    Friday's plays

    1. Spurs @ Knicks
    2. Clippers @ Toronto
    3. Wizards @ Denver
    4. Blazers @ Pistons

    all game 1 plays
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2008 - 11:09 AM ET #109

    nice I got:
    SAS -5.5
    Portland +12.5
    WAS +12.5
    LAC +11.5
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    nice I got:
    SAS -5.5
    Portland +12.5
    WAS +12.5
    LAC +11.5
     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2008 - 1:41 AM ET #110

    • Spurs -4.5 @ Knicks
      • Bet 5 units to win 3
    • Clippers +13 @ Toronto
      • Bet 5 units to win 3
    • Wizards +13.5 @ Denver
      • Bet 5 units to win 3
    • Blazers +13.5 @ Pistons
      • Bet 5 units to win 3
    4-0 +12 units
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    • Spurs -4.5 @ Knicks
      • Bet 5 units to win 3
    • Clippers +13 @ Toronto
      • Bet 5 units to win 3
    • Wizards +13.5 @ Denver
      • Bet 5 units to win 3
    • Blazers +13.5 @ Pistons
      • Bet 5 units to win 3
    4-0 +12 units
     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2008 - 1:42 AM ET #111

    • Buy 3 points for each
      • Blazers +10 @ Indiana
        • 5 to win 3
      • Knicks (no line yet) @ Milwaukee
        • 5 to win 3
      • Kings +10.5 @ Golden St
        • 5 to win 3
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    • Buy 3 points for each
      • Blazers +10 @ Indiana
        • 5 to win 3
      • Knicks (no line yet) @ Milwaukee
        • 5 to win 3
      • Kings +10.5 @ Golden St
        • 5 to win 3
     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2008 - 10:36 AM ET #112

    Blazers are only getting +2 to start out with. So would +5 still be a play?
     
    Hey, did you ever get a chance to see how things ended up if you played teasers instead.  So you wouldn't have to lay all that juice?
     
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    Blazers are only getting +2 to start out with. So would +5 still be a play?
     
    Hey, did you ever get a chance to see how things ended up if you played teasers instead.  So you wouldn't have to lay all that juice?
     
     
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    Ya I really want to know the deal with teasers! Nice hit last night I played them all small so they covered my silly ML parlay system's first loss!

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    Ya I really want to know the deal with teasers! Nice hit last night I played them all small so they covered my silly ML parlay system's first loss!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2008 - 6:59 PM ET #114

    No I haven't run the numbers for the teasers, sorry, been pretty busy.
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2008 - 7:31 PM ET #115

    Interesting conversation. I had been trying to understand what this system was since they have been spamming us for a while now.

    It almost makes sense to either bypass the second in the series since it is the worst statistically, or step it down a degree, meaning not progressive wager it..might save some units longer term.
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    Interesting conversation. I had been trying to understand what this system was since they have been spamming us for a while now.

    It almost makes sense to either bypass the second in the series since it is the worst statistically, or step it down a degree, meaning not progressive wager it..might save some units longer term.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2008 - 9:56 PM ET #116

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Interesting conversation. I had been trying to understand what this system was since they have been spamming us for a while now.

    It almost makes sense to either bypass the second in the series since it is the worst statistically, or step it down a degree, meaning not progressive wager it..might save some units longer term.


    right, that's the plan.

    play game 1, pass on game 2, double up on game 3. I'll update the record after tomorrow's games. this is a system I came up with. I took Cisco's principle and tweaked it. Unlike the spammers, my goal is to see everyone beat the books, they shouldn't have to pay for it. Wagering can get expensive enough as it is. I think this system is pretty close to the one they are charing $200 for though, but why pay for it when I figured something better out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Interesting conversation. I had been trying to understand what this system was since they have been spamming us for a while now.

    It almost makes sense to either bypass the second in the series since it is the worst statistically, or step it down a degree, meaning not progressive wager it..might save some units longer term.


    right, that's the plan.

    play game 1, pass on game 2, double up on game 3. I'll update the record after tomorrow's games. this is a system I came up with. I took Cisco's principle and tweaked it. Unlike the spammers, my goal is to see everyone beat the books, they shouldn't have to pay for it. Wagering can get expensive enough as it is. I think this system is pretty close to the one they are charing $200 for though, but why pay for it when I figured something better out.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2008 - 9:57 PM ET #117

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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:46 AM ET #118

    Has anybody looked into using the system but not buying the points?  How does it still do?  Also how about just waiting for that third play to come up, sure you wouldnt have as many plays but you would also leave yourself less exposed to maybe some big losses.
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    Has anybody looked into using the system but not buying the points?  How does it still do?  Also how about just waiting for that third play to come up, sure you wouldnt have as many plays but you would also leave yourself less exposed to maybe some big losses.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 1:28 AM ET #119

    We have talked about just playing the first game without buying the pts.  It seems like it's a good wager.
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    We have talked about just playing the first game without buying the pts.  It seems like it's a good wager.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 1:30 AM ET #120

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Has anybody looked into using the system but not buying the points?  How does it still do?  Also how about just waiting for that third play to come up, sure you wouldnt have as many plays but you would also leave yourself less exposed to maybe some big losses.


    cd239, I researched it without the points. the only game worth playing is game 1, it hits about 65% of the time. I play that as well, check my NBA thread here...

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=22&sub=842906

    you can wait to play the game 3s if you'd like. I'll update all of the records probably tomorrow night or Monday night so you can see how everything is doing.
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    Has anybody looked into using the system but not buying the points?  How does it still do?  Also how about just waiting for that third play to come up, sure you wouldnt have as many plays but you would also leave yourself less exposed to maybe some big losses.


    cd239, I researched it without the points. the only game worth playing is game 1, it hits about 65% of the time. I play that as well, check my NBA thread here...

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=22&sub=842906

    you can wait to play the game 3s if you'd like. I'll update all of the records probably tomorrow night or Monday night so you can see how everything is doing.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 1:33 AM ET #121

    Quote Originally Posted by VilenceAlliance:

    • Buy 3 points for each
      • Blazers +10 @ Indiana
        • 5 to win 3
      • Knicks (no line yet) @ Milwaukee
        • 5 to win 3
      • Kings +10.5 @ Golden St
        • 5 to win 3


    Lines I actually got and how they did...
    • Blazers +8 @ Indiana (push)
      • 5 to win 3
    • Knicks  +9 @ Milwaukee
      • 5 to win 3
    • Kings +10 @ Golden St
      • 5 to win 3
    2-0-1 on the night, +6 units

    tomorrow's plays (all game 1 plays, bet 5 to win 3)
    • Spurs @ Celtics
    • Lakers @ Heat
    • Wizards @ Suns
    • Nuggets @ Cavs
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    Quote Originally Posted by VilenceAlliance:

    • Buy 3 points for each
      • Blazers +10 @ Indiana
        • 5 to win 3
      • Knicks (no line yet) @ Milwaukee
        • 5 to win 3
      • Kings +10.5 @ Golden St
        • 5 to win 3


    Lines I actually got and how they did...
    • Blazers +8 @ Indiana (push)
      • 5 to win 3
    • Knicks  +9 @ Milwaukee
      • 5 to win 3
    • Kings +10 @ Golden St
      • 5 to win 3
    2-0-1 on the night, +6 units

    tomorrow's plays (all game 1 plays, bet 5 to win 3)
    • Spurs @ Celtics
    • Lakers @ Heat
    • Wizards @ Suns
    • Nuggets @ Cavs
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 1:40 AM ET #122

    Keep it going.........
     
    Great stuff. 
     
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    Keep it going.........
     
    Great stuff. 
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 1:44 AM ET #123

    Quote Originally Posted by VilenceAlliance:

    No I haven't run the numbers for the teasers, sorry, been pretty busy.


    ya dude i'm like not at all busy during the week while i'm at work if you want help running some numbers i'll take half teh games to research etc. let me know

    2-1 tonight i got blazers at +7
    but i hit my ML game again so its all good!

    Thanks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VilenceAlliance:

    No I haven't run the numbers for the teasers, sorry, been pretty busy.


    ya dude i'm like not at all busy during the week while i'm at work if you want help running some numbers i'll take half teh games to research etc. let me know

    2-1 tonight i got blazers at +7
    but i hit my ML game again so its all good!

    Thanks again!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 2:22 AM ET #124

    Quote Originally Posted by fritz218:



    ya dude i'm like not at all busy during the week while i'm at work if you want help running some numbers i'll take half teh games to research etc. let me know

    2-1 tonight i got blazers at +7
    but i hit my ML game again so its all good!

    Thanks again!

    you got it dude. I have a spreadsheet will all the games done from the start of the year. post your email address on my 'my space' and i'll email them to you and then we can divide the games and go from there. same for everyone else, if you want the spreadsheet, post your email on my space.
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    ya dude i'm like not at all busy during the week while i'm at work if you want help running some numbers i'll take half teh games to research etc. let me know

    2-1 tonight i got blazers at +7
    but i hit my ML game again so its all good!

    Thanks again!

    you got it dude. I have a spreadsheet will all the games done from the start of the year. post your email address on my 'my space' and i'll email them to you and then we can divide the games and go from there. same for everyone else, if you want the spreadsheet, post your email on my space.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 3:59 AM ET #125

    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly_Bleeker:

    VA,
    why wouldn't you just wait to bet that 3rd game if it has the highest win %?


    It's one of those things, how much action do you like? It's only gone to a game three 21 times this year. The last time I updated the records, the game 1 record was 93-48 (66%) +39 units. I like playing the game ones to add to the gains made to the game threes.
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    VA,
    why wouldn't you just wait to bet that 3rd game if it has the highest win %?


    It's one of those things, how much action do you like? It's only gone to a game three 21 times this year. The last time I updated the records, the game 1 record was 93-48 (66%) +39 units. I like playing the game ones to add to the gains made to the game threes.
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