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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 10:43 PM ET #76

    WELL DONE!!!
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 11:03 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by Spreader777:

    hey nole!  i got a high-five from hacksaw jim duggan about 25 years ago!  lol



    Thats freaking funny and classic. I wonder how many lads on here would have no clue who he is.

    Another nice win. How do you do it? Is this a new system for you? OR are you just on a hell of a win streak?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreader777:

    hey nole!  i got a high-five from hacksaw jim duggan about 25 years ago!  lol



    Thats freaking funny and classic. I wonder how many lads on here would have no clue who he is.

    Another nice win. How do you do it? Is this a new system for you? OR are you just on a hell of a win streak?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 2:21 AM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:


    Thats freaking funny and classic. I wonder how many lads on here would have no clue who he is.

    Another nice win. How do you do it? Is this a new system for you? OR are you just on a hell of a win streak?


    the meat of the system is chasing up to three losses martingale style to win a unit (ABCD - 4 bets possible).  the other main factor is that you stick to your pick and pick it again in the 2nd half, if the 1st half lost.  so the A and B bets are 1st and 2nd half.  if both lose, then you have to find a better game and do the same thing again with much more risk for C bet and maybe a D bet.  i believe it would be hard for anyone to even try to pick four half game losers in a row using this strategy!  i estimate that there is a 75% chance of winning within the first two bets A+B.  Same chance goes for the C+D bets.  Those are good odds, but still not much of an edge, if any, to do it blindly! 

    i used a similar method on NBA quarters, 1st & 3rd, and did pretty good with it a few years ago, but the system i used to make picks went downhill last year.  i also used jm's systems over the years and did very well at times, but once in a while there would be a cluster of losses, so i stopped using that method.  i only use that as a tool for making personal picks now.

    i'm a little over two weeks into this system.  selecting the game to play is still a bit random.  sometimes line movement will attract a play, sometimes injuries, sometimes capping, but mostly logic goes into the pick, which helps alot, but sometimes all the logic in the world won't get it right lol.  anyway, i just go from one time slot to another...  no waiting for days or another week to chase a certain team.  if there is a game today, i will figure out a play for it.  if i am on a C+D bet, i will wait for a solid game i have confidence in.  anybody can do this with their own plays and do pretty good!  if you have a massive bankroll, i suggest going ABCDEFGH martingale style using the same pick 1st/2nd half strategy...  odds of losing are less than 1% for that 8 play entire chase.  compound your "to win" %'s and watch it grow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:


    Thats freaking funny and classic. I wonder how many lads on here would have no clue who he is.

    Another nice win. How do you do it? Is this a new system for you? OR are you just on a hell of a win streak?


    the meat of the system is chasing up to three losses martingale style to win a unit (ABCD - 4 bets possible).  the other main factor is that you stick to your pick and pick it again in the 2nd half, if the 1st half lost.  so the A and B bets are 1st and 2nd half.  if both lose, then you have to find a better game and do the same thing again with much more risk for C bet and maybe a D bet.  i believe it would be hard for anyone to even try to pick four half game losers in a row using this strategy!  i estimate that there is a 75% chance of winning within the first two bets A+B.  Same chance goes for the C+D bets.  Those are good odds, but still not much of an edge, if any, to do it blindly! 

    i used a similar method on NBA quarters, 1st & 3rd, and did pretty good with it a few years ago, but the system i used to make picks went downhill last year.  i also used jm's systems over the years and did very well at times, but once in a while there would be a cluster of losses, so i stopped using that method.  i only use that as a tool for making personal picks now.

    i'm a little over two weeks into this system.  selecting the game to play is still a bit random.  sometimes line movement will attract a play, sometimes injuries, sometimes capping, but mostly logic goes into the pick, which helps alot, but sometimes all the logic in the world won't get it right lol.  anyway, i just go from one time slot to another...  no waiting for days or another week to chase a certain team.  if there is a game today, i will figure out a play for it.  if i am on a C+D bet, i will wait for a solid game i have confidence in.  anybody can do this with their own plays and do pretty good!  if you have a massive bankroll, i suggest going ABCDEFGH martingale style using the same pick 1st/2nd half strategy...  odds of losing are less than 1% for that 8 play entire chase.  compound your "to win" %'s and watch it grow!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 2:48 AM ET #79

    thanks to nolemonasses, i'm going to call this "The Hacksaw System" if the success continues!  it makes perfect sense lol!  thanks nole!!!


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    thanks to nolemonasses, i'm going to call this "The Hacksaw System" if the success continues!  it makes perfect sense lol!  thanks nole!!!


     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 5:07 AM ET #80

    So 1 question, when you bet for example..

    Seahawks under 21 points 1h

    you wager for example 1 unit. 

    You lose the 1h

    Then you Wager Seahawks under 21points 2h (Which is the chase)

    You win that becomes  1-1? Even money. Why are you posting 20-0? 
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    So 1 question, when you bet for example..

    Seahawks under 21 points 1h

    you wager for example 1 unit. 

    You lose the 1h

    Then you Wager Seahawks under 21points 2h (Which is the chase)

    You win that becomes  1-1? Even money. Why are you posting 20-0? 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 5:08 AM ET #81

    Cause alot of these you chased for same result in the second half, meaning 1st half lost? I'm just trying to understand the system a little better brotha. 
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    Cause alot of these you chased for same result in the second half, meaning 1st half lost? I'm just trying to understand the system a little better brotha. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 7:37 AM ET #82

    Because he wagered more on the second half bet to recover his first half loss and profit on the second half.
    Also, his record is on each 4-game chase, not the individual games within each chase.

    The hacksaw. Now that's f'n funny
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    Because he wagered more on the second half bet to recover his first half loss and profit on the second half.
    Also, his record is on each 4-game chase, not the individual games within each chase.

    The hacksaw. Now that's f'n funny
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 8:59 PM ET #83

    21-0 CATS (Chases Against The Spread), +21.25

    I count the entire chase as one win or loss.  I don't keep track of my individual pick record within all the chases.  This is how chases are recorded. 



    Here is an example of a losing chase:

    BET A:  Cowboys+4.5 1st Half -120 (say line is +4, but buy hook)

    Cowboys lose 10-20 1st Half -$120 (120 to win 100)

    BET B:  Cowboys+1.5 2nd Half -110 (if line is on key#, buy hook)

    Cowboys lose 6-17 2nd Half -$242 (242 to win 220)

    BET C:  Chiefs+5 1st Half -110 (not key# so no buy on hook)

    Chiefs lose 3-20 1st Half -$508.20 (508.20 to win 462)

    BET D:  Chiefs-2.5 -120 (was -3, but got hook)

    Chiefs lose spread 10-10 -$1212.75 (1212.75 to win 970.20)

    Total lost from the chase = -$2034.44

    ...if juice was -110 each bet then loss would be -1,844.81

    Try to avoid extra juice whenever possible, but I rather buy a hook on key numbers to avoid pushing, and maybe losing the next bet.  It'd be better to win with the hook, add the unit, and then start a new chase vs. pushing.



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    21-0 CATS (Chases Against The Spread), +21.25

    I count the entire chase as one win or loss.  I don't keep track of my individual pick record within all the chases.  This is how chases are recorded. 



    Here is an example of a losing chase:

    BET A:  Cowboys+4.5 1st Half -120 (say line is +4, but buy hook)

    Cowboys lose 10-20 1st Half -$120 (120 to win 100)

    BET B:  Cowboys+1.5 2nd Half -110 (if line is on key#, buy hook)

    Cowboys lose 6-17 2nd Half -$242 (242 to win 220)

    BET C:  Chiefs+5 1st Half -110 (not key# so no buy on hook)

    Chiefs lose 3-20 1st Half -$508.20 (508.20 to win 462)

    BET D:  Chiefs-2.5 -120 (was -3, but got hook)

    Chiefs lose spread 10-10 -$1212.75 (1212.75 to win 970.20)

    Total lost from the chase = -$2034.44

    ...if juice was -110 each bet then loss would be -1,844.81

    Try to avoid extra juice whenever possible, but I rather buy a hook on key numbers to avoid pushing, and maybe losing the next bet.  It'd be better to win with the hook, add the unit, and then start a new chase vs. pushing.



     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 7:07 PM ET #84

    21-0 CATS, +21.25

    (A) SEA/SF UNDER 19 -105 1st half



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    (A) SEA/SF UNDER 19 -105 1st half



     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 8:03 PM ET #85


    Not feeling this one, but wth do i know...
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    Not feeling this one, but wth do i know...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 9:51 PM ET #86

    I wanted to fade you sooooo much! I mean I almost hit confirm on the over 3 times! Then, I thought about these defenses and how SEA held NE to 2 FGs in the 2nd half and I bet under.

    Thanks Spreader77!

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    I wanted to fade you sooooo much! I mean I almost hit confirm on the over 3 times! Then, I thought about these defenses and how SEA held NE to 2 FGs in the 2nd half and I bet under.

    Thanks Spreader77!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 9:56 PM ET #87

    Like I said, WTH do I know.
    Glad I played it anyway.
    Stay toasty

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    Like I said, WTH do I know.
    Glad I played it anyway.
    Stay toasty

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:30 PM ET #88

    I've been following your progress pretty much since you started this thread and I gotta say you pick your plays very well! I reckon without the chase system, you'd have a pretty decent record lol. Keep it up and I might start jumping on your plays as well
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    I've been following your progress pretty much since you started this thread and I gotta say you pick your plays very well! I reckon without the chase system, you'd have a pretty decent record lol. Keep it up and I might start jumping on your plays as well
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:31 PM ET #89

    thanks guys, i picked it cause the line movement was ok and together the teams combined for a 11-1 1st half under record for the season prior to this game.  only 19 points scored in the whole game lol!



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    thanks guys, i picked it cause the line movement was ok and together the teams combined for a 11-1 1st half under record for the season prior to this game.  only 19 points scored in the whole game lol!



     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 12:10 AM ET #90

    Seasluts are great against the pass. That's why they beat NE
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    Seasluts are great against the pass. That's why they beat NE
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 10:23 AM ET #91

    All about the chase
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 6:12 PM ET #92

    22-0 CATS, +22.25

    (A) CUSE-2.5 -125 1st Half

    I admit this doesn't look very good.  Cuse is 1-4-1 s/u 1st Half.  Conn is 5-2 ats 1st Half.  Originally, I liked the under the best, but I feel that Cuse can finally beat Conn this year.  Also, I think the game could pop over the numbers since both teams are riding three game under streaks. So if Cuse 1H loses, I play Cuse again 2nd Half.  They better not dilly-dally and lolly-gag too much!  They have a better offense, revenge, and home field.  Come'on Cuse!  No point shaving please! 



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    (A) CUSE-2.5 -125 1st Half

    I admit this doesn't look very good.  Cuse is 1-4-1 s/u 1st Half.  Conn is 5-2 ats 1st Half.  Originally, I liked the under the best, but I feel that Cuse can finally beat Conn this year.  Also, I think the game could pop over the numbers since both teams are riding three game under streaks. So if Cuse 1H loses, I play Cuse again 2nd Half.  They better not dilly-dally and lolly-gag too much!  They have a better offense, revenge, and home field.  Come'on Cuse!  No point shaving please! 



     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 6:20 PM ET #93

    if cuse qb gets injured in 1H, then i won't chase cuse 2nd half... probably would go with under.  just an fyi.  
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    if cuse qb gets injured in 1H, then i won't chase cuse 2nd half... probably would go with under.  just an fyi.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 9:38 PM ET #94

    23-0 CATS, +23.25 
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 9:46 PM ET #95

    Dang, i missed your play for tonight. And another winner on the A.
    Unreal. 
    Why is this seeming to be so easy for you?
    Are you on a an all time hot streak, or do you usually go on A win runs for awhile?
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    Dang, i missed your play for tonight. And another winner on the A.
    Unreal. 
    Why is this seeming to be so easy for you?
    Are you on a an all time hot streak, or do you usually go on A win runs for awhile?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 9:59 PM ET #96

    Lol as I was saying, without the chase, you're doing mighty good anyway
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    Lol as I was saying, without the chase, you're doing mighty good anyway
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 10:14 PM ET #97

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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2012 - 2:22 AM ET #98

    yeah i am on a good hot streak i guess.  i been putting alot of time and effort into my research.  it helps me get into the zone, but i still feel like i could lose each time even though i feel confident that it will win.  i've been moosed alot over the years... which has happened mostly in 2nd halfs when i bet on a full game lol. 

    i've done flat betting and parlay betting with success at times, but once i get up big, i always struggled with money management.  doing this chase betting helps me relax without doing any silly impulse betting.  it is consistent in producing units right now.  i am looking forward to the continued success.  i will be amazed if it gets to 45-0 or better.  it is due to lose at anytime, so keep that in mind!  but i will keep working hard at it.


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    yeah i am on a good hot streak i guess.  i been putting alot of time and effort into my research.  it helps me get into the zone, but i still feel like i could lose each time even though i feel confident that it will win.  i've been moosed alot over the years... which has happened mostly in 2nd halfs when i bet on a full game lol. 

    i've done flat betting and parlay betting with success at times, but once i get up big, i always struggled with money management.  doing this chase betting helps me relax without doing any silly impulse betting.  it is consistent in producing units right now.  i am looking forward to the continued success.  i will be amazed if it gets to 45-0 or better.  it is due to lose at anytime, so keep that in mind!  but i will keep working hard at it.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2012 - 8:52 AM ET #99

    23-0 CATS, +23.25

    (A) TEXAS A&M +1.5 1st Half



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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreader777:

    23-0 CATS, +23.25

    (A) TEXAS A&M +1.5 1st Half




    Very nice record!!

    2 questions.....First, I noticed that the line movement and betting % was on LSU yet you are taking A & M.   Second, where have you found the best site to get first half ATS on college FB?  Thanks 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreader777:

    23-0 CATS, +23.25

    (A) TEXAS A&M +1.5 1st Half




    Very nice record!!

    2 questions.....First, I noticed that the line movement and betting % was on LSU yet you are taking A & M.   Second, where have you found the best site to get first half ATS on college FB?  Thanks 
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