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    3/6/13 THE TRUE STORY BEHIND THE THEORY

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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:08 PM ET #52

    Ok... well being bored at work I decided to run some numbers and here is what I came up with for the NCAAB and NBA

     

    NCAAB for the month of 2/08: (all lines are the *final* lines posted on covers) I didn’t count the pushes towards the percentage winners since you get your money back…

     

    Home Dogs  exactly  +3 +6 +13
    12/15/3 = 44.4% winners

     

    Road Dogs + 3 +6 +13
    26/20/2 = 57% winners

    Home Dogs +2.5 to +3.5 / +5.5 to +6.6 / +12.5 to +13.5 (always buying the hook)
    32/18/1 = 64% winners

    Road Dogs +2.5 to +3.5 / +5.5 to +6.6 / +12.5 to +13.5 (always buying the hook)
    49/29/4 = 62.8% winners

    Overall 119/82/10= 59.2% winners

     

     

    For the NBA since there weren’t as many games I did January and February and I added in there +1 games as well i.e. +2 / +5 / +12

    Home +3 / +6 / +13
    7/4/1= 63.6% winners

    Home 2.5 to 3.5 / 5.5 to 6.5 / 12.5 to 13.5 (buying the hook)
    12/17/1= 41.3% winners

    Home +2 +5 +12 (buying a whole point)
    11/8= 57.9% winners

    TOTAL HOME GAMES 30/29/2 = 50.8% winners



    Road +3 / +6 / +13
    17/13= 56.7% winners

    Road 2.5 to 3.5 / 5.5 to 6.5 / 12.5 to 13.5 (buying the hook)
    27/24/3= 52.9% winners

    Road +2 +5 +12 (buying a whole point)
    15/5= 75% winners

    TOTAL ROAD GAMES 59/42/3= 58.4% winners

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    Ok... well being bored at work I decided to run some numbers and here is what I came up with for the NCAAB and NBA

     

    NCAAB for the month of 2/08: (all lines are the *final* lines posted on covers) I didn’t count the pushes towards the percentage winners since you get your money back…

     

    Home Dogs  exactly  +3 +6 +13
    12/15/3 = 44.4% winners

     

    Road Dogs + 3 +6 +13
    26/20/2 = 57% winners

    Home Dogs +2.5 to +3.5 / +5.5 to +6.6 / +12.5 to +13.5 (always buying the hook)
    32/18/1 = 64% winners

    Road Dogs +2.5 to +3.5 / +5.5 to +6.6 / +12.5 to +13.5 (always buying the hook)
    49/29/4 = 62.8% winners

    Overall 119/82/10= 59.2% winners

     

     

    For the NBA since there weren’t as many games I did January and February and I added in there +1 games as well i.e. +2 / +5 / +12

    Home +3 / +6 / +13
    7/4/1= 63.6% winners

    Home 2.5 to 3.5 / 5.5 to 6.5 / 12.5 to 13.5 (buying the hook)
    12/17/1= 41.3% winners

    Home +2 +5 +12 (buying a whole point)
    11/8= 57.9% winners

    TOTAL HOME GAMES 30/29/2 = 50.8% winners



    Road +3 / +6 / +13
    17/13= 56.7% winners

    Road 2.5 to 3.5 / 5.5 to 6.5 / 12.5 to 13.5 (buying the hook)
    27/24/3= 52.9% winners

    Road +2 +5 +12 (buying a whole point)
    15/5= 75% winners

    TOTAL ROAD GAMES 59/42/3= 58.4% winners

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:24 PM ET #53

    Hey Buck, nice work.  Did you use covers numbers for everything?
     
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    Hey Buck, nice work.  Did you use covers numbers for everything?
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:29 PM ET #54

    There are NO NBA plays tonite that fit the system.  The Knicks DID NOT open at 6, but opened at 5.  Therefore, it's not a play!!
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    There are NO NBA plays tonite that fit the system.  The Knicks DID NOT open at 6, but opened at 5.  Therefore, it's not a play!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:42 PM ET #55

    Thanks, ya I used all the numbers from covers... it just made it easiest. Washington right now is a +3 road dog at the Cavs. This might not be a bad play since the Cavs are VERY short handed.
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    Thanks, ya I used all the numbers from covers... it just made it easiest. Washington right now is a +3 road dog at the Cavs. This might not be a bad play since the Cavs are VERY short handed.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:48 PM ET #56

    how about this dumb ass question if the line is 5 1/2 and you buy up do that fall in the 3 6 13   
     
      ps  told you is was a dumb ass question
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    how about this dumb ass question if the line is 5 1/2 and you buy up do that fall in the 3 6 13   
     
      ps  told you is was a dumb ass question
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:52 PM ET #57

    very nice buck  
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    very nice buck  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:55 PM ET #58

    Bookie, no question is stupid, but the hard fast rule is....the line MUST open at 3, 6, or 13 period.  No buying to get it to the number.  No line movements that get it to the number.  Simply open at 3, 6, or 13.
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    Bookie, no question is stupid, but the hard fast rule is....the line MUST open at 3, 6, or 13 period.  No buying to get it to the number.  No line movements that get it to the number.  Simply open at 3, 6, or 13.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:55 PM ET #59

    it has to be the opening line though... seems like it only happens like once every other day. 
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    it has to be the opening line though... seems like it only happens like once every other day. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:56 PM ET #60

    Buck already bet Wash.  But I bet them because they're short of players, not because of the theory.
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    Buck already bet Wash.  But I bet them because they're short of players, not because of the theory.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:59 PM ET #61

    I thought 3/6/13 apply to road dogs!!!
     
    Today Wash fit that description..  Am I right?
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    I thought 3/6/13 apply to road dogs!!!
     
    Today Wash fit that description..  Am I right?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 2:04 PM ET #62

    The thing is with my numbers is they are the *final numbers* not the opening lines... That’s why I included buying the +/- .5 and +1 for the NBA. I took into account the line probably moved throughout the day. 

     

    As of right now I would put Washington into this system as a Play. ESPECIALLY with the cavs been short players tonight.

     

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    The thing is with my numbers is they are the *final numbers* not the opening lines... That’s why I included buying the +/- .5 and +1 for the NBA. I took into account the line probably moved throughout the day. 

     

    As of right now I would put Washington into this system as a Play. ESPECIALLY with the cavs been short players tonight.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 2:04 PM ET #63

    The thing is with my numbers is they are the *final numbers* not the opening lines... That’s why I included buying the +/- .5 and +1 for the NBA. I took into account the line probably moved throughout the day. 

     

    As of right now I would put Washington into this system as a Play. ESPECIALLY with the cavs been short players tonight.

     

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    The thing is with my numbers is they are the *final numbers* not the opening lines... That’s why I included buying the +/- .5 and +1 for the NBA. I took into account the line probably moved throughout the day. 

     

    As of right now I would put Washington into this system as a Play. ESPECIALLY with the cavs been short players tonight.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 2:06 PM ET #64

    STASH good to see you post my friend.
    Havent heard from you in a while. I am hanging on, and trying to win. Some good stuff I learned from you keep up the good work.
    May you make money!!!
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    STASH good to see you post my friend.
    Havent heard from you in a while. I am hanging on, and trying to win. Some good stuff I learned from you keep up the good work.
    May you make money!!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 2:09 PM ET #65

    I got WASH +3, OPENING LINE...
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    I got WASH +3, OPENING LINE...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 2:10 PM ET #66

    Sorry for the double post...
     
    Does anyone know if this theory is for the opening/ending or average lines for games...? I keep getting different answer. Since mine are for the final and they seem to be producing a profit I wonder how they stand up for opening lines...
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    Sorry for the double post...
     
    Does anyone know if this theory is for the opening/ending or average lines for games...? I keep getting different answer. Since mine are for the final and they seem to be producing a profit I wonder how they stand up for opening lines...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 2:10 PM ET #67

    for those who have an interest, there is ONE game tonight you can check out that falls under the3/6/13/ "road dog" theory.. The WIZARDS +3 at CLEVLAND... take a look, check it out for yourself, I opened the book, now do your research, believe me, your going to be very surprised with the results.. just stay structured with concept, and don't drift....
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    for those who have an interest, there is ONE game tonight you can check out that falls under the3/6/13/ "road dog" theory.. The WIZARDS +3 at CLEVLAND... take a look, check it out for yourself, I opened the book, now do your research, believe me, your going to be very surprised with the results.. just stay structured with concept, and don't drift....
     
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    Jlt, it does seem that way in the NBA, but it appears almost daily in CBB. Wasn't going to mention this, but..... Last weekend in CBB there were 4 teams with +13 opening lines and huge ML's of 400+.  Well, as luck would have it, not only did all four teams cover the 13 point spread, but they all won OUTRIGHT(Ok St, Richmond, NC-Wilm, & Auburn) getting the 13 points.  Well, I used a ML calculator to calculate a four team ML parlay with the 400+ odds.  Here's the sick part.  On a $10 bet, $10.00 mind you, the payout for the parlay was $37,000 and change.  Yeah, THIRTY-SEVEN THOUSAND  and change.  Now, I know that it may never hit again, but if the oppurtunity comes up again, I'll waste $10 on that chance anyday!!!!
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    Jlt, it does seem that way in the NBA, but it appears almost daily in CBB. Wasn't going to mention this, but..... Last weekend in CBB there were 4 teams with +13 opening lines and huge ML's of 400+.  Well, as luck would have it, not only did all four teams cover the 13 point spread, but they all won OUTRIGHT(Ok St, Richmond, NC-Wilm, & Auburn) getting the 13 points.  Well, I used a ML calculator to calculate a four team ML parlay with the 400+ odds.  Here's the sick part.  On a $10 bet, $10.00 mind you, the payout for the parlay was $37,000 and change.  Yeah, THIRTY-SEVEN THOUSAND  and change.  Now, I know that it may never hit again, but if the oppurtunity comes up again, I'll waste $10 on that chance anyday!!!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 2:13 PM ET #69

    STASH. You going to do a thread everyday for 3/6/13?
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    STASH. You going to do a thread everyday for 3/6/13?
     
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    Hey Buck, if you still have the data, I'm wondering how often the teams getting the 3, 6, or 13 won outright.  Just like last night in CBB, both teams getting the 6 points won outright.  If you don't have the data available, I can do the research, just let me know
     
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    Hey Buck, if you still have the data, I'm wondering how often the teams getting the 3, 6, or 13 won outright.  Just like last night in CBB, both teams getting the 6 points won outright.  If you don't have the data available, I can do the research, just let me know
     
    Thanks...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 2:17 PM ET #71

    Buck, thanks for running those numbers man.  Interesting stuff.

    Even buying the hook seems profitable for the most part.  IT would depend how much your paying in juice.  Like buying a whole point on the 2/5/12 home dog at -115 and its hitting 57.9% its not even worth it. 

    Whats most interesting i think is that road dogs 2/5/12 buying a whole point hitting 75%!! Even if your paying -120 for that point its still highly profitable.  I would be curious what these percentages would be over a long period of time because 20 games or whatever isnt that big a data pool. 

    But the 3/6/13 seems to have some validity with strong numbers all around. 

    And washington does look like a solid play.  Only thing that worries me is the front page of covers is telling everyone how shorthanded the cavs are. I guess thats not really a big deal.  Over 80 percent on cavs now. 
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    Buck, thanks for running those numbers man.  Interesting stuff.

    Even buying the hook seems profitable for the most part.  IT would depend how much your paying in juice.  Like buying a whole point on the 2/5/12 home dog at -115 and its hitting 57.9% its not even worth it. 

    Whats most interesting i think is that road dogs 2/5/12 buying a whole point hitting 75%!! Even if your paying -120 for that point its still highly profitable.  I would be curious what these percentages would be over a long period of time because 20 games or whatever isnt that big a data pool. 

    But the 3/6/13 seems to have some validity with strong numbers all around. 

    And washington does look like a solid play.  Only thing that worries me is the front page of covers is telling everyone how shorthanded the cavs are. I guess thats not really a big deal.  Over 80 percent on cavs now. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 2:23 PM ET #72

    Wash +3 isnt a bad bet .But doesnt fall under this system because the line opened @ -2 1/2
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    Wash +3 isnt a bad bet .But doesnt fall under this system because the line opened @ -2 1/2
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 2:24 PM ET #73

    Sorry...+2 !/2
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    Sportsbook.com opened the line at Cavs -2, then took it off the board for a while, I gues because there were some uncertainties as to whether their new players were going to be there or if they were going to have to use D-League players.
     
    Now the line has been BET up to -3 with 86% of the consensus on the Cavs.
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    Sportsbook.com opened the line at Cavs -2, then took it off the board for a while, I gues because there were some uncertainties as to whether their new players were going to be there or if they were going to have to use D-League players.
     
    Now the line has been BET up to -3 with 86% of the consensus on the Cavs.
     
     
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    Thanks for all the feedback, this is all new to me and kinda fun to research so any input I'll appreciate. I'm dying to find a solid system of plays and stick to it.

     

    Currently, the games that would fall under my lines: (beted)

     

    NBA (%’s are from January and February numbers)

     

    NJ Nets +5 (road dog +1) 75% Winner

    Washington +3 (Road dog even) 56.7% Winner

    Knicks +6 (home dog even) 63.6% Winner

    Bulls (+5.5 home dog +.5) 41.3% Winner

    Bucks (+12.5 road dog +.5) 52.9% Winner

    Clippers (+5.5 home dog +.5) 41.3% Winner

     

    NCAAB (%’s are from February numbers)

     

     Princeton +3.5 (road dog +/- .5) 62.8% winner

    Winthrop +3 (home dog even)  44.4% winner

     

     

    Im going to look further into the NBA numbers to get a better grasp on these percentages.

     

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    Thanks for all the feedback, this is all new to me and kinda fun to research so any input I'll appreciate. I'm dying to find a solid system of plays and stick to it.

     

    Currently, the games that would fall under my lines: (beted)

     

    NBA (%’s are from January and February numbers)

     

    NJ Nets +5 (road dog +1) 75% Winner

    Washington +3 (Road dog even) 56.7% Winner

    Knicks +6 (home dog even) 63.6% Winner

    Bulls (+5.5 home dog +.5) 41.3% Winner

    Bucks (+12.5 road dog +.5) 52.9% Winner

    Clippers (+5.5 home dog +.5) 41.3% Winner

     

    NCAAB (%’s are from February numbers)

     

     Princeton +3.5 (road dog +/- .5) 62.8% winner

    Winthrop +3 (home dog even)  44.4% winner

     

     

    Im going to look further into the NBA numbers to get a better grasp on these percentages.

     

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