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    Intelli18
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2006 - 2:43 PM ET #1

    will u risk it all for the 100000 or put $50000 on opposite team to assure yourself money, no risk involved????????
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    will u risk it all for the 100000 or put $50000 on opposite team to assure yourself money, no risk involved????????
     
    sarava
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2006 - 3:11 PM ET #2

    hedge all day.
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    hedge all day.
     
    TKGB
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2006 - 12:55 AM ET #3

    your an idiot if you hedge
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    your an idiot if you hedge
     
    stikymess
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2006 - 2:02 AM ET #4

    I doubt any of us have the 50K to hedge. I'd be lucky to be able to get 2-3k to put the other way.
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    I doubt any of us have the 50K to hedge. I'd be lucky to be able to get 2-3k to put the other way.
     
    Gunny86
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2006 - 6:28 AM ET #5

    get a loan and do 10000 on the other team and hopefully you hit the 21 streak
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    get a loan and do 10000 on the other team and hopefully you hit the 21 streak
     
    eag801
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2006 - 7:36 AM ET #6

    I would think that $$ is taxed so take about 30% of his winnings away. And for those of you telling him to hedge easier said then done.
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    I would think that $$ is taxed so take about 30% of his winnings away. And for those of you telling him to hedge easier said then done.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2006 - 12:55 PM ET #7

    look this is free money no reason to hedge if he actually wagered each pick for $100 he already is up $1900.00 go for it david ! I feel your a smart handicapper you dont win 19 st games with luck ! hell i'm happy winning 17 st in NFL ! ||an_roll_laugh.gif' border=0>
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    look this is free money no reason to hedge if he actually wagered each pick for $100 he already is up $1900.00 go for it david ! I feel your a smart handicapper you dont win 19 st games with luck ! hell i'm happy winning 17 st in NFL ! ||an_roll_laugh.gif' border=0>
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2006 - 1:03 PM ET #8

    he will never win..he is scared to death to make a pick||an_burn_money.gif' border=0>
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    he will never win..he is scared to death to make a pick||an_burn_money.gif' border=0>
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2006 - 11:54 AM ET #9

    UNLESS YOU ARE A MILLIONAIRE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE A COMPLETE FOOL TO NOT GUARANTEE YOURSELF SOME MONEY AT THIS POINT.
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    UNLESS YOU ARE A MILLIONAIRE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE A COMPLETE FOOL TO NOT GUARANTEE YOURSELF SOME MONEY AT THIS POINT.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2006 - 12:19 PM ET #10

    your an idiot if you hedge I'd love to know what drove you to say this given he's 2 games away from 100K and hedging is a no-brainer... 20th game: a) he picks team A in Survivor b) he picks team B as a separate bet with his bookie or whatever to win 10K scenario A: He loses Survivor, he wins 10K scenario B: He loses 10K, he wins Survivor #20 if he wins game #20... 21st game: he picks team A in survivor he picks team B as a separate bet with his bookie or whatever to win 25K Scenario A: Team A wins & he wins Survivor pick #21 and gets his 100K Scenario B: Team B wins & he wins his 25K If he wins survivor, his total cost of hedging is 35K. If he loses survivor, he wins 35K. At what cost? nada! That's the beauty of it. This contest did not cost him a penny. There is no way he should come out of this at least 35K richer if he follows what I said. This is a LOCK!!!! lol Think about it and tell me who's the idiot ||confused.gif' border=0>
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    your an idiot if you hedge I'd love to know what drove you to say this given he's 2 games away from 100K and hedging is a no-brainer... 20th game: a) he picks team A in Survivor b) he picks team B as a separate bet with his bookie or whatever to win 10K scenario A: He loses Survivor, he wins 10K scenario B: He loses 10K, he wins Survivor #20 if he wins game #20... 21st game: he picks team A in survivor he picks team B as a separate bet with his bookie or whatever to win 25K Scenario A: Team A wins & he wins Survivor pick #21 and gets his 100K Scenario B: Team B wins & he wins his 25K If he wins survivor, his total cost of hedging is 35K. If he loses survivor, he wins 35K. At what cost? nada! That's the beauty of it. This contest did not cost him a penny. There is no way he should come out of this at least 35K richer if he follows what I said. This is a LOCK!!!! lol Think about it and tell me who's the idiot ||confused.gif' border=0>
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2006 - 12:20 PM ET #11

    There is no way he should come out of this at least 35K richer Of course, he has to win game #20 for this to happen. Guaranteed 10K at least.
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    There is no way he should come out of this at least 35K richer Of course, he has to win game #20 for this to happen. Guaranteed 10K at least.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2006 - 12:28 PM ET #12

    That should be 10K, not 35K actually. My bad - knock on wood but if he loses #20 at least he's got 10K. If he gets to 21 and another knock on wood: -10K(he wins survivor 20 and loses his 10K separate bet) deduct from +25K (he loses survivor 21 and wins his 25K separate bet) = 15K
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    That should be 10K, not 35K actually. My bad - knock on wood but if he loses #20 at least he's got 10K. If he gets to 21 and another knock on wood: -10K(he wins survivor 20 and loses his 10K separate bet) deduct from +25K (he loses survivor 21 and wins his 25K separate bet) = 15K
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2006 - 12:30 PM ET #13

    If he loses survivor, he wins 35K A mixup there sorry! ||an_drunksick.gif' border=0> Please refer to my post up there...meant 10K
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    If he loses survivor, he wins 35K A mixup there sorry! ||an_drunksick.gif' border=0> Please refer to my post up there...meant 10K
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2006 - 2:43 PM ET #14

    just delete your posts and post a corrected one ||an_tongueout.gif' border=0>
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    just delete your posts and post a corrected one ||an_tongueout.gif' border=0>
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2006 - 3:03 AM ET #15

    Hedge all day if you don't you are an IDIOT
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    Hedge all day if you don't you are an IDIOT
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2006 - 7:12 AM ET #16

    I think the best option would be to place $1 on your first pick & let it ride. With money line of -110 you would have over $175,000 after your nineteenth win. ||an_light.gif' border=0>
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    I think the best option would be to place $1 on your first pick & let it ride. With money line of -110 you would have over $175,000 after your nineteenth win. ||an_light.gif' border=0>
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2006 - 6:35 PM ET #17

    why don't you try having confidence in your selections? if you hedge you aren't playing for $100,000, got that?
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    why don't you try having confidence in your selections? if you hedge you aren't playing for $100,000, got that?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2006 - 7:44 PM ET #18

    if you hedge you aren't playing for $100,000 LOL Still not getting it are ya? The aim here, at this point, is to walk away with guaranteed money. It's really that simple. Who cares if you walk away 50K instead of 100K. Would you really rather risk winning 100K and losing it all or guarantee yourself money? Confidence has nothing to do with this. It doesn't make you win money. It just makes you feel better about that play you're about to make. Got that? lol
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    if you hedge you aren't playing for $100,000 LOL Still not getting it are ya? The aim here, at this point, is to walk away with guaranteed money. It's really that simple. Who cares if you walk away 50K instead of 100K. Would you really rather risk winning 100K and losing it all or guarantee yourself money? Confidence has nothing to do with this. It doesn't make you win money. It just makes you feel better about that play you're about to make. Got that? lol
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2006 - 9:45 PM ET #19

    Hey Linesman You have $10 grand to blow to a bookie??. Hedge my balls!! Win the 100 grand DP!!
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    Hey Linesman You have $10 grand to blow to a bookie??. Hedge my balls!! Win the 100 grand DP!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2006 - 11:31 PM ET #20

    10 grand to blow to a bookie Hey Old-timer lol Well there's the problem right there. You're not seeing past the "blown money". Don't get me wrong. I feel Patrick will make it but what if he doesn't? Will he be walking away with anything more than the grand he's won and some goodies? It's not even a debate at this point but that seems to be the case. ||confused.gif' border=0> GL DP!
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    10 grand to blow to a bookie Hey Old-timer lol Well there's the problem right there. You're not seeing past the "blown money". Don't get me wrong. I feel Patrick will make it but what if he doesn't? Will he be walking away with anything more than the grand he's won and some goodies? It's not even a debate at this point but that seems to be the case. ||confused.gif' border=0> GL DP!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2006 - 10:52 AM ET #21

    The thing is you have to take taxes into account. That 100,000 will be taxed at around 32% so it's only 68,000. With that said I'm walking away with a minimum of 10,000. Whoever said hedging isn't an option is a liar or just plain stupid.
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    The thing is you have to take taxes into account. That 100,000 will be taxed at around 32% so it's only 68,000. With that said I'm walking away with a minimum of 10,000. Whoever said hedging isn't an option is a liar or just plain stupid.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2006 - 8:00 PM ET #22

    question is, will he file his taxes? LOL
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    question is, will he file his taxes? LOL
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2006 - 8:17 PM ET #23

    This is pretty damn interesting....I'm guessing it all comes down to how wealthy you are to start. For all the ham & eggers here like myself, guaranteeing 35K is a no-brainer. To wipe out some credit card debt, pay off a house/car etc. in one easy action is too good to pass up. On the other hand...if you are already a big-timer, the thrill and rush of taking the all-or-none is probably what would drive you.
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    This is pretty damn interesting....I'm guessing it all comes down to how wealthy you are to start. For all the ham & eggers here like myself, guaranteeing 35K is a no-brainer. To wipe out some credit card debt, pay off a house/car etc. in one easy action is too good to pass up. On the other hand...if you are already a big-timer, the thrill and rush of taking the all-or-none is probably what would drive you.
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