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    World Cup Preview and First Round Game picks thread.....

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    Whiskeyhangover
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 8:11 AM ET #301

    Time to adjust the power rankings.....

    Or add a special category for Robert Green.

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    Time to adjust the power rankings.....

    Or add a special category for Robert Green.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 8:38 AM ET #302

    Just recovering from yesterday.  What a great result for the USA.

    As far as the over is concerned - I just rewatched the game on DVR and there could have been many more goals - so not too upset with the wager.....

    Relatively quiet day today - picks for Monday up soon.

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    Just recovering from yesterday.  What a great result for the USA.

    As far as the over is concerned - I just rewatched the game on DVR and there could have been many more goals - so not too upset with the wager.....

    Relatively quiet day today - picks for Monday up soon.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 9:03 AM ET #303

    1.  SA / Mex over 2 -122 (1.5 units) -  PUSH
    2.  Uruguay +.5 -109 (2 units) - WIN
    3.  SK / Greec under 2 -103 (2 units) and 0-0 at +600 (.5 unit) - PUSH (lose .5 unit)
    4.  Argentina -200 (2 units to win 1 unit) - WIN
    5.  USA / Eng over 2.5 +105 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    6.  SLV / ALG - no bet
    7.  Serbia +116 (2 units)
    8.  Australia +1 +106 (1 unit)

    Monday June 14

    9.  Netherlands / Denmark - Netherlands -180 (to win 1 unit) - Im a little concerned that the Dutch come out flat in their first game based on what we have seen so far from France, England, Argentina etc - but historically the Dutch seem to be on the opposite schedule - coming out and winning early but stinking it up later in the tourney.  With this offense, this could be the first truly open play game of the tourney - and dare I say multiple goals?  Denmark is no slouch - they have a potent attack in Bendtner - and are disciplined all over the field.  Just a case of being overmatched here.   Predicted final score - Netherlands 2-1

    10.  Japan / Cameroon - Cameroon to win +112 (.5 unit) - Cameroon should have a talent advantage here - but their lack of scoring is worrysome - so Im treading lightly here.  If the Africans are organized this early in the tourney - they should have plenty of chances on the Japanese.  Predicted final score Cameroon 1 Japan 0.

    11.  Italy / Paraguay - Paraguay +.5 (bet the draw and the win in the right ratio) (2.5 units) - Lots of reasons to like Paraguay here - typically slow starters Italy who always play their first round games close and are not overly concerned about draws - Paraguay quietly underrated here.  Paraguay does have some concerns at striker where there have been recent rumors about Cordozo's availability, but very similar to the France / Uruguay game in that both teams should be satisfied with a draw here and play it low and slow.  Predicted final score Italy 0 Paraguay 0.

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    1.  SA / Mex over 2 -122 (1.5 units) -  PUSH
    2.  Uruguay +.5 -109 (2 units) - WIN
    3.  SK / Greec under 2 -103 (2 units) and 0-0 at +600 (.5 unit) - PUSH (lose .5 unit)
    4.  Argentina -200 (2 units to win 1 unit) - WIN
    5.  USA / Eng over 2.5 +105 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    6.  SLV / ALG - no bet
    7.  Serbia +116 (2 units)
    8.  Australia +1 +106 (1 unit)

    Monday June 14

    9.  Netherlands / Denmark - Netherlands -180 (to win 1 unit) - Im a little concerned that the Dutch come out flat in their first game based on what we have seen so far from France, England, Argentina etc - but historically the Dutch seem to be on the opposite schedule - coming out and winning early but stinking it up later in the tourney.  With this offense, this could be the first truly open play game of the tourney - and dare I say multiple goals?  Denmark is no slouch - they have a potent attack in Bendtner - and are disciplined all over the field.  Just a case of being overmatched here.   Predicted final score - Netherlands 2-1

    10.  Japan / Cameroon - Cameroon to win +112 (.5 unit) - Cameroon should have a talent advantage here - but their lack of scoring is worrysome - so Im treading lightly here.  If the Africans are organized this early in the tourney - they should have plenty of chances on the Japanese.  Predicted final score Cameroon 1 Japan 0.

    11.  Italy / Paraguay - Paraguay +.5 (bet the draw and the win in the right ratio) (2.5 units) - Lots of reasons to like Paraguay here - typically slow starters Italy who always play their first round games close and are not overly concerned about draws - Paraguay quietly underrated here.  Paraguay does have some concerns at striker where there have been recent rumors about Cordozo's availability, but very similar to the France / Uruguay game in that both teams should be satisfied with a draw here and play it low and slow.  Predicted final score Italy 0 Paraguay 0.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 9:12 AM ET #304

    is serbia that much better?
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    is serbia that much better?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 9:23 AM ET #305

    Seems to me goalkeeping has been subpar yet there has been all unders.
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    Seems to me goalkeeping has been subpar yet there has been all unders.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 9:38 AM ET #306

    Van, how concerned are you about your USA not to advance after the draw yesterday?
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    Van, how concerned are you about your USA not to advance after the draw yesterday?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 9:42 AM ET #307

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    7.  Serbia +116 (2 units)


    How's the sun shinin' in Equatorial Guinea today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    7.  Serbia +116 (2 units)


    How's the sun shinin' in Equatorial Guinea today?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 11:29 AM ET #308

    Been a Superb start for me so far (4 wins, 1 push and 1 loss). My predicated results for the next 4 Games are below:                         

    My actual Bets are:

    1) Germany - 175 (not overly confident)

    2) Holland v Denmark over 1.5 Goals @ -300 (very big bet).  3) Cameron to win to nil @ +220.

    4) Italy Draw no Bet -200 (another big bet, if game is drawn you get your money back).

    Predicted scores:

    Germany 1 Australia 0

    Holland 3 Denmark 1

    Cameron 2 Japan 0

    Italy 1 Paraguay 0

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    Been a Superb start for me so far (4 wins, 1 push and 1 loss). My predicated results for the next 4 Games are below:                         

    My actual Bets are:

    1) Germany - 175 (not overly confident)

    2) Holland v Denmark over 1.5 Goals @ -300 (very big bet).  3) Cameron to win to nil @ +220.

    4) Italy Draw no Bet -200 (another big bet, if game is drawn you get your money back).

    Predicted scores:

    Germany 1 Australia 0

    Holland 3 Denmark 1

    Cameron 2 Japan 0

    Italy 1 Paraguay 0

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 11:46 AM ET #309

    Germany to score in both halves +157 ->3u/3.71u

    Germany/Austrailia u/3 -243 -> 7.29/3

    +6.30 units for WC...

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    Germany to score in both halves +157 ->3u/3.71u

    Germany/Austrailia u/3 -243 -> 7.29/3

    +6.30 units for WC...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 11:47 AM ET #310

    Quote Originally Posted by HEADHUNTER8383:

    is serbia that much better?


    Doesn't look like it!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by HEADHUNTER8383:

    is serbia that much better?


    Doesn't look like it!!


     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 11:53 AM ET #311

    what is up with matchbook today? 

     

     i cant even log in?

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    what is up with matchbook today? 

     

     i cant even log in?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 1:00 PM ET #312

    thank you for your predictions mack and others. I don't know much about this game but love watching it just the same. I'll ride the 2.5 unders until I lose I guess, as long as the games aren't total mismatches. Gambling is all about trend spotting and following people who know more than you do.
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    thank you for your predictions mack and others. I don't know much about this game but love watching it just the same. I'll ride the 2.5 unders until I lose I guess, as long as the games aren't total mismatches. Gambling is all about trend spotting and following people who know more than you do.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 1:09 PM ET #313

    GL Van, how come no Baseball appearances? 
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    GL Van, how come no Baseball appearances? 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 1:30 PM ET #314

    lordzud, Great trend spotting on your part. So far i am 6-0 betting all games under 2 1/2 goals. Why worry about a side when every game goes under? Gonna ride this non-scoring sport for a good 1 month profit unless the books start putting the lines at 2.
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    lordzud, Great trend spotting on your part. So far i am 6-0 betting all games under 2 1/2 goals. Why worry about a side when every game goes under? Gonna ride this non-scoring sport for a good 1 month profit unless the books start putting the lines at 2.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 4:34 PM ET #315

    Quote Originally Posted by billyloco:

    Germany to score in both halves +157 ->3u/3.71u

    Germany/Austrailia u/3 -243 -> 7.29/3

    +6.30 units for WC...

    YUCKOOOOOOOOO-->lost 3.58 units...didn't expect Germany to score that much!!

    Now +2.72 units for WC

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyloco:

    Germany to score in both halves +157 ->3u/3.71u

    Germany/Austrailia u/3 -243 -> 7.29/3

    +6.30 units for WC...

    YUCKOOOOOOOOO-->lost 3.58 units...didn't expect Germany to score that much!!

    Now +2.72 units for WC

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 6:03 PM ET #316

    Quote Originally Posted by SnotBoogy:

    i think you are greatly underestimating germany. untalented? they have loads of talent. if anything is their problem, its that they are too young in the midfield with ozil and marin. but talentwise, germany is very strong. methinks you are overplaying the injury to ballack and the lack of big name stars. bundesliga gets no respect

     shoulda listened.. germany is totally legit, anyone who didn't think so just because ballack was out doesn't watch soccer beyond WC headlines obviously
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnotBoogy:

    i think you are greatly underestimating germany. untalented? they have loads of talent. if anything is their problem, its that they are too young in the midfield with ozil and marin. but talentwise, germany is very strong. methinks you are overplaying the injury to ballack and the lack of big name stars. bundesliga gets no respect

     shoulda listened.. germany is totally legit, anyone who didn't think so just because ballack was out doesn't watch soccer beyond WC headlines obviously
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 6:56 PM ET #317

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Been a Superb start for me so far (4 wins, 1 push and 1 loss). My predicated results for the next 4 Games are below:                         

    My actual Bets are:

    1) Germany - 175 (not overly confident)

    2) Holland v Denmark over 1.5 Goals @ -300 (very big bet).  3) Cameron to win to nil @ +220.

    4) Italy Draw no Bet -200 (another big bet, if game is drawn you get your money back).

    Predicted scores:

    Germany 1 Australia 0

    Holland 3 Denmark 1

    Cameron 2 Japan 0

    Italy 1 Paraguay 0



    Mack my boxing brother
    on fire so far!

    I hit on Argentina, was gunshy on Germany and wish I had followed
    but I am in for tomorrow

    got Netherlands -180
    got Cameroon +100

    Let's get it done !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Been a Superb start for me so far (4 wins, 1 push and 1 loss). My predicated results for the next 4 Games are below:                         

    My actual Bets are:

    1) Germany - 175 (not overly confident)

    2) Holland v Denmark over 1.5 Goals @ -300 (very big bet).  3) Cameron to win to nil @ +220.

    4) Italy Draw no Bet -200 (another big bet, if game is drawn you get your money back).

    Predicted scores:

    Germany 1 Australia 0

    Holland 3 Denmark 1

    Cameron 2 Japan 0

    Italy 1 Paraguay 0



    Mack my boxing brother
    on fire so far!

    I hit on Argentina, was gunshy on Germany and wish I had followed
    but I am in for tomorrow

    got Netherlands -180
    got Cameroon +100

    Let's get it done !

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 6:57 PM ET #318

    Vanzack
    Great thread and I really appreciate the insight from a soccer expert
    Good luck the rest of the way !


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    Great thread and I really appreciate the insight from a soccer expert
    Good luck the rest of the way !


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Just recovering from yesterday.  What a great result for the USA.

    As far as the over is concerned - I just rewatched the game on DVR and there could have been many more goals - so not too upset with the wager.....

    Relatively quiet day today - picks for Monday up soon.

    What a fucking disaster!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Just recovering from yesterday.  What a great result for the USA.

    As far as the over is concerned - I just rewatched the game on DVR and there could have been many more goals - so not too upset with the wager.....

    Relatively quiet day today - picks for Monday up soon.

    What a fucking disaster!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 9:32 PM ET #320

    Paraguay +.05, +1 -178 -->7.12u/4u

    I need to NOT go out on my own BUT stick close to Vans insight!!!

    ....+2.72 units for WC

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    I need to NOT go out on my own BUT stick close to Vans insight!!!

    ....+2.72 units for WC

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 10:31 PM ET #321

    nice lookin card there buddy, look forward to seeing you over on the college gridiron
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 11:14 PM ET #322

    Isn't Bentner out? 
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 11:18 PM ET #323

    ^^^ What books have Netherlands for -180 ML?....I have been seen -200 or more all day.  My book is up to -215 now
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Group D:  For my money, Group D is the closest matched group from top to bottom of them all.  Germany is the favorite to take the group and advance for the millionth time in a row, but it wont be a cakewalk for them.   Captain Ballack is out, but more importantly is depth and talent – this squad just isn’t as talented as previous German squads – and I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to see them get squeezed out of advancing – but then again they always advance and almost always far – so on pedigree alone they are worth a look.  They qualified easily from a group that really only included Russia as any competition – only giving up 5 goals in 10 games – but Im not sold on them having the goods to go very far.  Serbia have the potential to leave their mark on this tournament – and that starts with a very solid defense led by Vidic of ManU.  They came out of a tough qualification group that included France, Romania, Austria, and Lithuania – coming out on top – and only giving up 8 goals in 10 games (2 of which were against Lithuania after they qualified and were resting players).  They are also fairly potent up front, and can open up the offense through midfield possession quite nicely.  I like the balance of this side.  Australia is very similar to the side that got screwed 4 years ago on a dubious penalty call on a patented Italian dive in extra time.  This team is also dangerous, and could easily make a run with Kewell, Emerton, Schwartzer, and Cahill anchoring a side that is pretty loaded with international players.  Ghana is probably the best talented African team from top to bottom – but can never seem to pull it together.  They did well 4 years ago – and made it to the final of the ACN in January.  Essien is out – and you cant underscore how big of a deal that is.  I think they fall victim to a very tough group – and have moments of lack of concentration and typical harsh play which will cost them.

     

    Handicapping Analysis and Bets:  I will take a small shot on Serbia stealing the group at +330 for .5 unit, and Germany NOT to advance at +375 for .5 unit.  Otherwise – I don’t see much to bet here.

     

    Predicted Group D Finish (country, points):

    1.  Germany 5

    2.  Serbia 5

    3.  Ghana 2

    4.  Australia 2


    vanzacks analysis reeks of someone who doesn't really watch soccer. he grabbed a magazine or two, regurgitated it, and failed.
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    Group D:  For my money, Group D is the closest matched group from top to bottom of them all.  Germany is the favorite to take the group and advance for the millionth time in a row, but it wont be a cakewalk for them.   Captain Ballack is out, but more importantly is depth and talent – this squad just isn’t as talented as previous German squads – and I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to see them get squeezed out of advancing – but then again they always advance and almost always far – so on pedigree alone they are worth a look.  They qualified easily from a group that really only included Russia as any competition – only giving up 5 goals in 10 games – but Im not sold on them having the goods to go very far.  Serbia have the potential to leave their mark on this tournament – and that starts with a very solid defense led by Vidic of ManU.  They came out of a tough qualification group that included France, Romania, Austria, and Lithuania – coming out on top – and only giving up 8 goals in 10 games (2 of which were against Lithuania after they qualified and were resting players).  They are also fairly potent up front, and can open up the offense through midfield possession quite nicely.  I like the balance of this side.  Australia is very similar to the side that got screwed 4 years ago on a dubious penalty call on a patented Italian dive in extra time.  This team is also dangerous, and could easily make a run with Kewell, Emerton, Schwartzer, and Cahill anchoring a side that is pretty loaded with international players.  Ghana is probably the best talented African team from top to bottom – but can never seem to pull it together.  They did well 4 years ago – and made it to the final of the ACN in January.  Essien is out – and you cant underscore how big of a deal that is.  I think they fall victim to a very tough group – and have moments of lack of concentration and typical harsh play which will cost them.

     

    Handicapping Analysis and Bets:  I will take a small shot on Serbia stealing the group at +330 for .5 unit, and Germany NOT to advance at +375 for .5 unit.  Otherwise – I don’t see much to bet here.

     

    Predicted Group D Finish (country, points):

    1.  Germany 5

    2.  Serbia 5

    3.  Ghana 2

    4.  Australia 2


    vanzacks analysis reeks of someone who doesn't really watch soccer. he grabbed a magazine or two, regurgitated it, and failed.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 12:11 AM ET #325

    Germany is the best looking team so far!
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