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    stats1
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 2:15 PM ET #476

    Double üp 2 catch up on the US game 
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    Double üp 2 catch up on the US game 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 2:59 PM ET #477

    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

    Double üp 2 catch up on the US game 


    Maybe you, not me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

    Double üp 2 catch up on the US game 


    Maybe you, not me!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 5:30 PM ET #478


    Went with my vibe first scoreless game yessss.not sure van about brasil why 
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    Went with my vibe first scoreless game yessss.not sure van about brasil why 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 8:28 PM ET #479

    USA 2 - 1 Ghana

    'It's good to be vanzack'
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    USA 2 - 1 Ghana

    'It's good to be vanzack'
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 9:40 PM ET #480

    USA under 2.5 points future bet loser. Over is a winner today 2.5 goals
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    USA under 2.5 points future bet loser. Over is a winner today 2.5 goals
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 9:52 PM ET #481

    Croatia to Advance +115 (1.5 units)

    Mexico to finish last +270 (.5 unit)

    Netherlands not to advance from group +135 (1 unit)

    Japan to win group +420 (1 unit)

    Columbia not to win group -110 (1 unit)

    Uruguay to win group +190 (1.5 units)

    France to win WC +2500 (1 unit)
    France to win group -130 (3 units)

    France / Switzerland to advance +110 (.5 unit)

    France to reach quarterfinals +100 (1 unit)

    Germany / Portugal to advance -120 (1 unit)

    USA to finish last +120 (1 units)

    USA under 2.5 points +110 (2 units)

    Russia to win group +240 (1.5 units)

    S Korea to come in last in group +220 (1 unit)

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    Croatia to Advance +115 (1.5 units)

    Mexico to finish last +270 (.5 unit)

    Netherlands not to advance from group +135 (1 unit)

    Japan to win group +420 (1 unit)

    Columbia not to win group -110 (1 unit)

    Uruguay to win group +190 (1.5 units)

    France to win WC +2500 (1 unit)
    France to win group -130 (3 units)

    France / Switzerland to advance +110 (.5 unit)

    France to reach quarterfinals +100 (1 unit)

    Germany / Portugal to advance -120 (1 unit)

    USA to finish last +120 (1 units)

    USA under 2.5 points +110 (2 units)

    Russia to win group +240 (1.5 units)

    S Korea to come in last in group +220 (1 unit)

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 10:39 PM ET #482

    Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:



    Maybe you, not me!
     I did and made a killing 
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    Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:



    Maybe you, not me!
     I did and made a killing 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 10:48 PM ET #483

    U guys oughta make a parlay on the ML of Brazil and Belgium, it is 2.2 and that is incredibly good considering that they are up against massive dogs: mexico and algeria.
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    U guys oughta make a parlay on the ML of Brazil and Belgium, it is 2.2 and that is incredibly good considering that they are up against massive dogs: mexico and algeria.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 11:05 PM ET #484

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    is portugal going to take this beating out on the US?

    Highly likely. Especially, if the U.S. can't stretch the flanks with the likes of  Altidore.   The only thing the Americans have assured themselves is one victory in this tournament.  Much more work lies ahead.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    is portugal going to take this beating out on the US?

    Highly likely. Especially, if the U.S. can't stretch the flanks with the likes of  Altidore.   The only thing the Americans have assured themselves is one victory in this tournament.  Much more work lies ahead.  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 11:06 PM ET #485

    Nice hit stats, every time I get ahead, I give it back, plus some. Lost 2 units on the usa under. should have known better. Ghana knocked them out the last 2 world cups, us was out for blood. Oh well, when ya tail blindly, blame no one except yourself.....

    hope tomorrow is better!

    best of luck. at least my rays in bases bailed me out tonight, huge 10 unit win. Maybe I should stick to bases and leave the soccer alone!
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    Nice hit stats, every time I get ahead, I give it back, plus some. Lost 2 units on the usa under. should have known better. Ghana knocked them out the last 2 world cups, us was out for blood. Oh well, when ya tail blindly, blame no one except yourself.....

    hope tomorrow is better!

    best of luck. at least my rays in bases bailed me out tonight, huge 10 unit win. Maybe I should stick to bases and leave the soccer alone!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 11:16 PM ET #486

    Hitting Algeria +1.5 later i think it ends 1-0 at best for Belgium
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    Hitting Algeria +1.5 later i think it ends 1-0 at best for Belgium
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 11:25 PM ET #487

    Big big day for US today.....

    I still think they have the same issues - but they definitely maximized their chances today and sometimes that is enough...

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    Big big day for US today.....

    I still think they have the same issues - but they definitely maximized their chances today and sometimes that is enough...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 11:26 PM ET #488

    Big big day for US today.....

    I still think they have the same issues - but they definitely maximized their chances today and sometimes that is enough...

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Big big day for US today.....

    I still think they have the same issues - but they definitely maximized their chances today and sometimes that is enough...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 11:27 PM ET #489

    Yes - you are right - I am in big trouble on a lot of futures.

    But honestly - I am happy to lose the US one today.

    Writeups coming for Tues and Wed...

     

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    Yes - you are right - I am in big trouble on a lot of futures.

    But honestly - I am happy to lose the US one today.

    Writeups coming for Tues and Wed...

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2014 - 12:13 AM ET #490

    Game Bets:

    6-6 - 9.32 units up, 8.75 units down

     

    Brazil / Croatia – Under 2.5 goals -115 (1.5 units) - LOSS

    Mexico / Cameroon – Cameroon PK and +.5 -101 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Spain / Netherlands – Spain to win -112 (2 units) - LOSS

    Chile / Australia – Chile to win -215 (1 unit), Chile -1 -116 (1 unit) - WIN

    Greece / Columbia – Greece +.5 +105 (1.5 units) - LOSS

    Costa Rica / Uruguay – Under 2 and 2.5 -105 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Italy / England – Italy PK -114 (1 unit) - WIN

    Ivory Coast / Japan – Over 2 -125 (2 units) - WIN

    Ecuador / Switzerland – Switzerland to win +155 (1.5 units) - WIN

    France / Honduras - No bet

    Argentina / Bosnia - over 2.5 -115 (1 unit) - WIN

    Germany / Portugal - Under 2.5 -115 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Iran / Nigeria - No Bet

    Ghana / USA - over 2 and 2.5 +100 (1 unit) - WIN

    Belgium / Algeria - Under 2.5 +100 (1 unit)

    Brazil / Mexico - Brazil -1.5 +100 (3 units)

    Russia / S Korea - Russia to win +125 (2 units)

    Australia / Netherlands - Australia +1.5 and +2 +100 (1 unit)

    Spain / Chile - No Bet

    Croatia / Cameroon - Croatia -160 (1.5 units)

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    Game Bets:

    6-6 - 9.32 units up, 8.75 units down

     

    Brazil / Croatia – Under 2.5 goals -115 (1.5 units) - LOSS

    Mexico / Cameroon – Cameroon PK and +.5 -101 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Spain / Netherlands – Spain to win -112 (2 units) - LOSS

    Chile / Australia – Chile to win -215 (1 unit), Chile -1 -116 (1 unit) - WIN

    Greece / Columbia – Greece +.5 +105 (1.5 units) - LOSS

    Costa Rica / Uruguay – Under 2 and 2.5 -105 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Italy / England – Italy PK -114 (1 unit) - WIN

    Ivory Coast / Japan – Over 2 -125 (2 units) - WIN

    Ecuador / Switzerland – Switzerland to win +155 (1.5 units) - WIN

    France / Honduras - No bet

    Argentina / Bosnia - over 2.5 -115 (1 unit) - WIN

    Germany / Portugal - Under 2.5 -115 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Iran / Nigeria - No Bet

    Ghana / USA - over 2 and 2.5 +100 (1 unit) - WIN

    Belgium / Algeria - Under 2.5 +100 (1 unit)

    Brazil / Mexico - Brazil -1.5 +100 (3 units)

    Russia / S Korea - Russia to win +125 (2 units)

    Australia / Netherlands - Australia +1.5 and +2 +100 (1 unit)

    Spain / Chile - No Bet

    Croatia / Cameroon - Croatia -160 (1.5 units)

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2014 - 12:14 AM ET #491

    Tues 6/17

     

    Belgium / Algeria - Under 2.5 +100 (1 unit) -

     

    Brazil / Mexico - Brazil -1.5 +100 (3 units) - I love this spot.  Brazil looked weak in their first game, got a lot of media about how they maybe were given the game - while Mexico was basically the opposite.  This is still one of the best sides in the world who have one more game under their belts and are out to prove something.   Cameroon had nothing on attack and were lacking creative midfield players to break down the Mexican defense - which was admittedly solid almost all game.  But this is just a major class difference -  in a perfect spot - and Brazil makes a statement.  Predicted final score Brazil 3 Mexico 0

     

    Russia / S Korea - Russia to win +125 (2 units) - South Korea used to play long balls over the top and rely on set pieces to score goals.  They are adapting to a more disciplined build up approach on attack where their speed can take advantage of wing play - but that adjustment has them on a pretty bad run of form as of late.  In their last 5 competitive matches, they have only scored 2 goals - and in qualifying finished behind Iran splitting their home and home with them 1-0 each way.  The loss of Shirikov for Russia will limit their creativity in midfield and limit their goalscoring quality.  I feel that Capello will inject some defensive discipline that has been the downfall of previous Russian sides - and this is a bet more against S Korea than on Russia. These two teams played back in November in a friendly and Russia won 2-1. Predicted final score Russia 2 S Korea 0

     

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    Tues 6/17

     

    Belgium / Algeria - Under 2.5 +100 (1 unit) -

     

    Brazil / Mexico - Brazil -1.5 +100 (3 units) - I love this spot.  Brazil looked weak in their first game, got a lot of media about how they maybe were given the game - while Mexico was basically the opposite.  This is still one of the best sides in the world who have one more game under their belts and are out to prove something.   Cameroon had nothing on attack and were lacking creative midfield players to break down the Mexican defense - which was admittedly solid almost all game.  But this is just a major class difference -  in a perfect spot - and Brazil makes a statement.  Predicted final score Brazil 3 Mexico 0

     

    Russia / S Korea - Russia to win +125 (2 units) - South Korea used to play long balls over the top and rely on set pieces to score goals.  They are adapting to a more disciplined build up approach on attack where their speed can take advantage of wing play - but that adjustment has them on a pretty bad run of form as of late.  In their last 5 competitive matches, they have only scored 2 goals - and in qualifying finished behind Iran splitting their home and home with them 1-0 each way.  The loss of Shirikov for Russia will limit their creativity in midfield and limit their goalscoring quality.  I feel that Capello will inject some defensive discipline that has been the downfall of previous Russian sides - and this is a bet more against S Korea than on Russia. These two teams played back in November in a friendly and Russia won 2-1. Predicted final score Russia 2 S Korea 0

     

     
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    Wednesday June 17

     

    Australia / Netherlands - Australia +1.5 and +2 +100 (1 unit) - This definitely a grab your nuts and squeeze bet - because if form holds from their first games - this could end 10-0.  But after analyzing the Netherlands win - I am convinced it was the Spanish decision to play a very high defensive line that was their downfall.  Time and time again the Netherlands simply sent their speedy front line on long runs to fill the space in between Spains defensive line and the goal, and the Dutch just exposed slower older backs that couldnt keep up or at times just didnt even try.  I fully expect Australia to be much more compact - and do what they did against Chile which was pack back 8 most of the time much closer to the penalty box.  This neutralizes the speed of the Dutch forwards, and relies on the Dutch making plays in the midfield.  Daley Blind was a magician against Spain but I will take my chances on seeing if he can do it against a different shaped defense.  Australia should continue to attack down the wings and play the numbers in getting a header or two on net.  Dutch have far more talent, great momentum - but I need to take the handicap with Australia.  Predicted final score Netherland 1 Australia 0 (I also like the under but just lean)

     

    Spain / Chile - No Bet - Long story short - I just cannot figure this one out.  Will Spain bomb out and give up or will they come back with a vengeance?  Can Chile really play that ridiculous style of defense where they allowed Australia 2 on 2's while being up a goal against a Spain?  One thing I do think is that Spain will have to attack with more speed against Chile - the way to beat them is with quick offensive movements - and this is not something the Spanish are known for.  I am sure Spain will also shake up their line up. I think it will be fascinating to watch - but not something I want to have my money on.  Anyone who can go under in this game has much more balls than I do.  I think Spain deserves to be favored, but at -150 or so I am just not interested.  Too many moving parts in this one for my liking.  Predicted final score Spain 2 Chile 1 ??

     

    Croatia / Cameroon - Croatia -160 (1.5 units) - Croatia is in must win mode here as they will be chasing Mexico for the second qualifying spot in Group A.  Croatia was solid almost all game against Brazil - but I really felt it was goalkeeping and of course the penalty call that was their undoing.  It was pretty much what I expected from Croatia - good control when on the ball - and very good on the wings with a lot of quality crosses.  Now that Mandzukic is back in the lineup - those crosses should be even more effective.  Luka Modric looks like he will also be in the lineup after an injury scare.  Cameroon just showed nothing against Mexico and were lucky to only lose 1-0.  The key for me is their defense and their inability to track on the wings and the gaps left up the middle.  A good passing team with a guy like Modric should be able to pick this apart.  Predicted final score Croatia 3 Cameroon 1

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    Australia / Netherlands - Australia +1.5 and +2 +100 (1 unit) - This definitely a grab your nuts and squeeze bet - because if form holds from their first games - this could end 10-0.  But after analyzing the Netherlands win - I am convinced it was the Spanish decision to play a very high defensive line that was their downfall.  Time and time again the Netherlands simply sent their speedy front line on long runs to fill the space in between Spains defensive line and the goal, and the Dutch just exposed slower older backs that couldnt keep up or at times just didnt even try.  I fully expect Australia to be much more compact - and do what they did against Chile which was pack back 8 most of the time much closer to the penalty box.  This neutralizes the speed of the Dutch forwards, and relies on the Dutch making plays in the midfield.  Daley Blind was a magician against Spain but I will take my chances on seeing if he can do it against a different shaped defense.  Australia should continue to attack down the wings and play the numbers in getting a header or two on net.  Dutch have far more talent, great momentum - but I need to take the handicap with Australia.  Predicted final score Netherland 1 Australia 0 (I also like the under but just lean)

     

    Spain / Chile - No Bet - Long story short - I just cannot figure this one out.  Will Spain bomb out and give up or will they come back with a vengeance?  Can Chile really play that ridiculous style of defense where they allowed Australia 2 on 2's while being up a goal against a Spain?  One thing I do think is that Spain will have to attack with more speed against Chile - the way to beat them is with quick offensive movements - and this is not something the Spanish are known for.  I am sure Spain will also shake up their line up. I think it will be fascinating to watch - but not something I want to have my money on.  Anyone who can go under in this game has much more balls than I do.  I think Spain deserves to be favored, but at -150 or so I am just not interested.  Too many moving parts in this one for my liking.  Predicted final score Spain 2 Chile 1 ??

     

    Croatia / Cameroon - Croatia -160 (1.5 units) - Croatia is in must win mode here as they will be chasing Mexico for the second qualifying spot in Group A.  Croatia was solid almost all game against Brazil - but I really felt it was goalkeeping and of course the penalty call that was their undoing.  It was pretty much what I expected from Croatia - good control when on the ball - and very good on the wings with a lot of quality crosses.  Now that Mandzukic is back in the lineup - those crosses should be even more effective.  Luka Modric looks like he will also be in the lineup after an injury scare.  Cameroon just showed nothing against Mexico and were lucky to only lose 1-0.  The key for me is their defense and their inability to track on the wings and the gaps left up the middle.  A good passing team with a guy like Modric should be able to pick this apart.  Predicted final score Croatia 3 Cameroon 1

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2014 - 12:58 AM ET #493

    I just wanted to comment about how I loved how Ghana was relentlessly attacking the US. It was amazing to watch them attack and attack. I hope they go far in the tourney.
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    I just wanted to comment about how I loved how Ghana was relentlessly attacking the US. It was amazing to watch them attack and attack. I hope they go far in the tourney.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2014 - 1:08 AM ET #494

    Quote Originally Posted by Zacreth:

    I just wanted to comment about how I loved how Ghana was relentlessly attacking the US. It was amazing to watch them attack and attack. I hope they go far in the tourney.

    They are pretty much dead after losing to the US. They are 7 to 1 to even advance through the group stage, and IMO should be an even longer shot than that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacreth:

    I just wanted to comment about how I loved how Ghana was relentlessly attacking the US. It was amazing to watch them attack and attack. I hope they go far in the tourney.

    They are pretty much dead after losing to the US. They are 7 to 1 to even advance through the group stage, and IMO should be an even longer shot than that.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2014 - 2:28 AM ET #495

    Any reason on the under in the Belgium game? 
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    Any reason on the under in the Belgium game? 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2014 - 3:16 AM ET #496

    Van, thanks for your call on Germany and the over in the Ghana/US game.

    And congratulations to the American team on their victory. As a Ghana supporter I'm a little gutted, as I see no way forward now, but the US won fair and square.

    If anything, Ghana dodged a bullet in the first half when buddy could have been given a red card. Ditto on the broken nose.

    I thought Ghana was the better side, but their inability to finish combined with a stout US defense that refused to panic and an offense that took full advantage of their opportunities is why the Americans won the day.

    Good luck to your team going forward.

    Big play on Russia tomorrow at +114, made weeks ago based on your recommend. Now at -130.

    Also tailing you on Brasil at scale.
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    Van, thanks for your call on Germany and the over in the Ghana/US game.

    And congratulations to the American team on their victory. As a Ghana supporter I'm a little gutted, as I see no way forward now, but the US won fair and square.

    If anything, Ghana dodged a bullet in the first half when buddy could have been given a red card. Ditto on the broken nose.

    I thought Ghana was the better side, but their inability to finish combined with a stout US defense that refused to panic and an offense that took full advantage of their opportunities is why the Americans won the day.

    Good luck to your team going forward.

    Big play on Russia tomorrow at +114, made weeks ago based on your recommend. Now at -130.

    Also tailing you on Brasil at scale.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2014 - 3:59 AM ET #497

    Quote Originally Posted by lambo4bkfast:

    U guys oughta make a parlay on the ML of Brazil and Belgium, it is 2.2 and that is incredibly good considering that they are up against massive dogs: mexico and algeria.

    There's no mystery to parlay math.  You could bet $100 on Belgium ML and then bet $100+Belgium ML profit all on Brazil ML for the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambo4bkfast:

    U guys oughta make a parlay on the ML of Brazil and Belgium, it is 2.2 and that is incredibly good considering that they are up against massive dogs: mexico and algeria.

    There's no mystery to parlay math.  You could bet $100 on Belgium ML and then bet $100+Belgium ML profit all on Brazil ML for the same thing.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2014 - 4:04 AM ET #498

    Personally, I don't think the overwhelming number of overs are an anomaly.

    We are witnessing a sea change in international football. 

    Control is out, attack is in.

    Bet unders at your own risk in the rest of the group stage.

    I have not bet an under since the tournament began.
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    Personally, I don't think the overwhelming number of overs are an anomaly.

    We are witnessing a sea change in international football. 

    Control is out, attack is in.

    Bet unders at your own risk in the rest of the group stage.

    I have not bet an under since the tournament began.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2014 - 8:34 AM ET #499

    Quote Originally Posted by Zacreth:

    I just wanted to comment about how I loved how Ghana was relentlessly attacking the US. It was amazing to watch them attack and attack. I hope they go far in the tourney.


    It's going to take a miracle for Ghana to ADVANCE, let alone 'go far in the tourney'. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacreth:

    I just wanted to comment about how I loved how Ghana was relentlessly attacking the US. It was amazing to watch them attack and attack. I hope they go far in the tourney.


    It's going to take a miracle for Ghana to ADVANCE, let alone 'go far in the tourney'. 
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2014 - 8:36 AM ET #500

    Good luck with that Aussie wager. It is definitely a 'hold your nose and hit submit' type of play. Looks like a good letdown spot for the Netherlands here.
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    Good luck with that Aussie wager. It is definitely a 'hold your nose and hit submit' type of play. Looks like a good letdown spot for the Netherlands here.
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