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    Hoyasaxa
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 9:57 AM ET #376

    Van-

    I assume you're factoring in travel and weather-apparently northern locations are killer..USA has it  worst, Belgium best but depth and age is obviously factors..will this hurt European teams that play in cooler temps most time?

    Thanks
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    Van-

    I assume you're factoring in travel and weather-apparently northern locations are killer..USA has it  worst, Belgium best but depth and age is obviously factors..will this hurt European teams that play in cooler temps most time?

    Thanks
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 9:57 AM ET #377

    Van-

    I assume you're factoring in travel and weather-apparently northern locations are killer..USA has it  worst, Belgium best but depth and age is obviously factors..will this hurt European teams that play in cooler temps most time?

    Thanks
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    Van-

    I assume you're factoring in travel and weather-apparently northern locations are killer..USA has it  worst, Belgium best but depth and age is obviously factors..will this hurt European teams that play in cooler temps most time?

    Thanks
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 10:01 AM ET #378

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    Van-

    I assume you're factoring in travel and weather-apparently northern locations are killer..USA has it  worst, Belgium best but depth and age is obviously factors..will this hurt European teams that play in cooler temps most time?

    Thanks

    I will be honest and I said this earlier in this thread a little bit...

    I am not factoring weather yet.  I want to see how it plays out.  If I see something, I will adjust.  But for me to say that hot weather will have a bigger on a European team than a S American team is not something I am willing to do - YET.

    Travel - maybe a little.  But overall - I try not to let speculation on these types of things have an effect on what I bet until I see it and understand what I am seeing.

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    Van-

    I assume you're factoring in travel and weather-apparently northern locations are killer..USA has it  worst, Belgium best but depth and age is obviously factors..will this hurt European teams that play in cooler temps most time?

    Thanks

    I will be honest and I said this earlier in this thread a little bit...

    I am not factoring weather yet.  I want to see how it plays out.  If I see something, I will adjust.  But for me to say that hot weather will have a bigger on a European team than a S American team is not something I am willing to do - YET.

    Travel - maybe a little.  But overall - I try not to let speculation on these types of things have an effect on what I bet until I see it and understand what I am seeing.

    GL

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 10:05 AM ET #379

    A NOTE ABOUT THE LINE MOVES.....

    I post lines that are widely available at American facing books at the time I post.  If lines move before you bet, you need to react accordingly.  It is safe to say that I bet relatively more on lines that have moved to make more value on my already placed bets, and grin like a schoolgirl when lines move in favor of my bets.

    So today - the Italy line at PK is now available at about +100, and the Japan / Ivory Coast total has gone completely nuts and is now at 2 upwards of -170.

    I would not bet the over in the Japan / IC game at -170.  If you missed it at -120ish up to -135ish, you missed it. 

    For those that like Italy, you get a few more pennies in your pocket.

    GL.

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    A NOTE ABOUT THE LINE MOVES.....

    I post lines that are widely available at American facing books at the time I post.  If lines move before you bet, you need to react accordingly.  It is safe to say that I bet relatively more on lines that have moved to make more value on my already placed bets, and grin like a schoolgirl when lines move in favor of my bets.

    So today - the Italy line at PK is now available at about +100, and the Japan / Ivory Coast total has gone completely nuts and is now at 2 upwards of -170.

    I would not bet the over in the Japan / IC game at -170.  If you missed it at -120ish up to -135ish, you missed it. 

    For those that like Italy, you get a few more pennies in your pocket.

    GL.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 10:08 AM ET #380

    problems with italian goalkeeper no1 and 2. maybe italy will start with 3rd goalkeeper. So that is the reason italians odds are drifting.

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    problems with italian goalkeeper no1 and 2. maybe italy will start with 3rd goalkeeper. So that is the reason italians odds are drifting.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 10:26 AM ET #381

    Yeah - I don't know.  It is described as a "very light ankle twist" to Buffon. 

    Certainly you would have think I have learned my lesson with being burned by some pretty bad GK so far....  But I am not concerned yet.  I will wait to see the lineup....

     

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    Yeah - I don't know.  It is described as a "very light ankle twist" to Buffon. 

    Certainly you would have think I have learned my lesson with being burned by some pretty bad GK so far....  But I am not concerned yet.  I will wait to see the lineup....

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 10:27 AM ET #382

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    A NOTE ABOUT THE LINE MOVES.....

    I post lines that are widely available at American facing books at the time I post.  If lines move before you bet, you need to react accordingly.  It is safe to say that I bet relatively more on lines that have moved to make more value on my already placed bets, and grin like a schoolgirl when lines move in favor of my bets.

    So today - the Italy line at PK is now available at about +100, and the Japan / Ivory Coast total has gone completely nuts and is now at 2 upwards of -170.

    I would not bet the over in the Japan / IC game at -170.  If you missed it at -120ish up to -135ish, you missed it. 

    For those that like Italy, you get a few more pennies in your pocket.

    GL.

    A good amt of line disparity here in the Caribbean OVER 2.5 +120 on the oriental/Ivory Coast game - and that is what it openend at.

    The other book here yesterday had  2 OVER -130 and I bet I can still get that today...

     

    Today I am rooting for Colombia. I do have Greece +1 EV (yes that is correct) and decided to be a fool and hope for that to push and took Colombia (against you Van, sorry! I don't do that often) -125 on the 3WAY 3Units.

    GLTA today and the best thing I guess is for those of us who really love this game. This has been a decent looking cup so far (Bad calls not withstanding) with some great passing and ball control, great offense and even Australia and especially Croatia looking great, Mexico who I generally don't like has some cohesion and looks like they may have "flipped the switch".

     

    I lost 2 U on Spain but loved seeing the Dutch get revenge on a lousily officiated WC final 4 years ago.

     

    I am not sure why Chile didn't just park the bus with 2 goals as Van mentioned - especially since Spain is -4 GD out of the gate.

    Lastly I have said it before that Ecuador will give fits to every team it meets. Just a humble opinion from a CONMEBOL junkie.

    The pen is mightier than the pigs
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    A NOTE ABOUT THE LINE MOVES.....

    I post lines that are widely available at American facing books at the time I post.  If lines move before you bet, you need to react accordingly.  It is safe to say that I bet relatively more on lines that have moved to make more value on my already placed bets, and grin like a schoolgirl when lines move in favor of my bets.

    So today - the Italy line at PK is now available at about +100, and the Japan / Ivory Coast total has gone completely nuts and is now at 2 upwards of -170.

    I would not bet the over in the Japan / IC game at -170.  If you missed it at -120ish up to -135ish, you missed it. 

    For those that like Italy, you get a few more pennies in your pocket.

    GL.

    A good amt of line disparity here in the Caribbean OVER 2.5 +120 on the oriental/Ivory Coast game - and that is what it openend at.

    The other book here yesterday had  2 OVER -130 and I bet I can still get that today...

     

    Today I am rooting for Colombia. I do have Greece +1 EV (yes that is correct) and decided to be a fool and hope for that to push and took Colombia (against you Van, sorry! I don't do that often) -125 on the 3WAY 3Units.

    GLTA today and the best thing I guess is for those of us who really love this game. This has been a decent looking cup so far (Bad calls not withstanding) with some great passing and ball control, great offense and even Australia and especially Croatia looking great, Mexico who I generally don't like has some cohesion and looks like they may have "flipped the switch".

     

    I lost 2 U on Spain but loved seeing the Dutch get revenge on a lousily officiated WC final 4 years ago.

     

    I am not sure why Chile didn't just park the bus with 2 goals as Van mentioned - especially since Spain is -4 GD out of the gate.

    Lastly I have said it before that Ecuador will give fits to every team it meets. Just a humble opinion from a CONMEBOL junkie.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 10:31 AM ET #383

    Buffon OUT for England match. Confirmed - Sky Italia. 

    Sirigu in net. 

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    Buffon OUT for England match. Confirmed - Sky Italia. 

    Sirigu in net. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 10:41 AM ET #384

    Quote Originally Posted by dogcity:

    Buffon OUT for England match. Confirmed - Sky Italia. 

    Sirigu in net. 

    Thanks dogcity.  Keeping my original bet, not adding to it...

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogcity:

    Buffon OUT for England match. Confirmed - Sky Italia. 

    Sirigu in net. 

    Thanks dogcity.  Keeping my original bet, not adding to it...

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 10:42 AM ET #385

    GL today Barneybeans.

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    GL today Barneybeans.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 11:01 AM ET #386

    Hey vanzack love your thread . Would u bet Ivory Coast vs Japan over 2.5 for + money? +115?
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    Hey vanzack love your thread . Would u bet Ivory Coast vs Japan over 2.5 for + money? +115?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 11:11 AM ET #387

    Thanks for explaining. Love the thread. Good luck. 
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    Thanks for explaining. Love the thread. Good luck. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 11:20 AM ET #388

    Buffons performances lately have been average. Sirigu is solid. No drop off in quality at this point in their careers.
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    Buffons performances lately have been average. Sirigu is solid. No drop off in quality at this point in their careers.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 11:21 AM ET #389

    Buffons performances lately have been average. Sirigu is solid. No drop off in quality at this point in their careers.
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    Buffons performances lately have been average. Sirigu is solid. No drop off in quality at this point in their careers.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 11:21 AM ET #390

    Buffons performances lately have been average. Sirigu is solid. No drop off in quality at this point in their careers.
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    Buffons performances lately have been average. Sirigu is solid. No drop off in quality at this point in their careers.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 11:50 AM ET #391

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBaby11:

    Buffons performances lately have been average. Sirigu is solid. No drop off in quality at this point in their careers.


    Can you repeat that again? 3 times wasnt enough for me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBaby11:

    Buffons performances lately have been average. Sirigu is solid. No drop off in quality at this point in their careers.


    Can you repeat that again? 3 times wasnt enough for me...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 11:52 AM ET #392

    I am not new to sports betting, but mostly stick to football, basketball, hockey, baseball. I like to play the World Cup and Euro every 2 years and I thought I had a grasp on the Asian lines. I have a question though. I bet with Sports Interaction and this is how there lines are posted for Italy v England

    Italy + 0 -110, Italy +.5 -223, Italy -.5 +181, Italy +.25 -165, Italy -.25 + 130

    What is the reasoning for a line being .25?

    Thanks for any help, and thanks Vanzack for making last world cup so profitable. Lets do the same and good luck this year

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    I am not new to sports betting, but mostly stick to football, basketball, hockey, baseball. I like to play the World Cup and Euro every 2 years and I thought I had a grasp on the Asian lines. I have a question though. I bet with Sports Interaction and this is how there lines are posted for Italy v England

    Italy + 0 -110, Italy +.5 -223, Italy -.5 +181, Italy +.25 -165, Italy -.25 + 130

    What is the reasoning for a line being .25?

    Thanks for any help, and thanks Vanzack for making last world cup so profitable. Lets do the same and good luck this year

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 12:25 PM ET #393

    Well Colombia showed great attacking capability at the start but kinda just gave it up afterwards and not attacking as much... I will give the Greeks the benefit of the doubt of playing with the sun in their eyes.

    I'm curious to see how this ends.
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    Well Colombia showed great attacking capability at the start but kinda just gave it up afterwards and not attacking as much... I will give the Greeks the benefit of the doubt of playing with the sun in their eyes.

    I'm curious to see how this ends.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 12:36 PM ET #394

    For example:
    Italy +.25
    England - Italy 0-0 bet half win because of the +.25 handicap
    1-0 bet lost
    0-1 bet win
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    For example:
    Italy +.25
    England - Italy 0-0 bet half win because of the +.25 handicap
    1-0 bet lost
    0-1 bet win
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 12:39 PM ET #395

    damn vanzack what happened? i thought you were the master of football

    another bet that needs a miracle to win :(
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    damn vanzack what happened? i thought you were the master of football

    another bet that needs a miracle to win :(
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 12:42 PM ET #396

    Thanks, but is what is the diff between .25 and .5?
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    Thanks, but is what is the diff between .25 and .5?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 12:54 PM ET #397

    Quote Originally Posted by Debo420:

    Thanks, but is what is the diff between .25 and .5?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Debo420:

    Thanks, but is what is the diff between .25 and .5?


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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 1:04 PM ET #398

    Quote Originally Posted by Debo420:

    Thanks, but is what is the diff between .25 and .5?
    My slide rule says .25 but it's outdated technology so I'm not completely sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debo420:

    Thanks, but is what is the diff between .25 and .5?
    My slide rule says .25 but it's outdated technology so I'm not completely sure
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 1:08 PM ET #399

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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 1:22 PM ET #400

    Quote Originally Posted by Debo420:

    Thanks, but is what is the diff between .25 and .5?
    But seriously:
    .25 is 1/2 bet on Pk and 1/2 bet on .5
    .5 is full bet on .5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debo420:

    Thanks, but is what is the diff between .25 and .5?
    But seriously:
    .25 is 1/2 bet on Pk and 1/2 bet on .5
    .5 is full bet on .5
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