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    Some Thoughts on Over/Under & Time Value of the Under

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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2016 - 12:20 PM ET #1

    Hello Everyone:

    I wanted to give my thoughts on the Over/Unders, particularly the standard "Over/Under 2.5" propositions that are typically offered.

    I look for the angle to play an under, either pre-match or live-wagering because of one alluring aspect:  

    The "value" of my wager increases with time, rather than decreases.  Meaning, the 'time' is with my wager rather than working against it.  

    This of course is variable and a great wager in the 50th minute of the match can be blown out of the water in the 51st minute with a goal.  

    That being said, there are many opportune times to place a wager on the Under 2.5.  A few key factors to consider when I will almost always play a wager of Under 2.5

    A.  0-0 game after 30 minutes.
    B.  1-1 game after 75 minutes.
    C.  0-1 game after 45 minutes.

    I consider "Riskier" wagers as follows:

    A.  1-0 game after 40 minutes (home side, favored, could easily be 2-1 or maybe a 3-0.

    B.  Any 2-0 game after 60 minutes.

    C.  1-1 game at HT

    I personally have found that the above situations are likely to fall Over/Under 2.5 and have usually been successful in these scenarios.  Certainly, there's the odd "get out of hand" game where there's a 0-1 scoreline, and then suddenly home team comes alive and it ends 3-1 or something, but that is usually the extraneous result.

    I haven't posted much, but wanted to share and would welcome any insight on those bettors who enjoy playing overs.  
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    Hello Everyone:

    I wanted to give my thoughts on the Over/Unders, particularly the standard "Over/Under 2.5" propositions that are typically offered.

    I look for the angle to play an under, either pre-match or live-wagering because of one alluring aspect:  

    The "value" of my wager increases with time, rather than decreases.  Meaning, the 'time' is with my wager rather than working against it.  

    This of course is variable and a great wager in the 50th minute of the match can be blown out of the water in the 51st minute with a goal.  

    That being said, there are many opportune times to place a wager on the Under 2.5.  A few key factors to consider when I will almost always play a wager of Under 2.5

    A.  0-0 game after 30 minutes.
    B.  1-1 game after 75 minutes.
    C.  0-1 game after 45 minutes.

    I consider "Riskier" wagers as follows:

    A.  1-0 game after 40 minutes (home side, favored, could easily be 2-1 or maybe a 3-0.

    B.  Any 2-0 game after 60 minutes.

    C.  1-1 game at HT

    I personally have found that the above situations are likely to fall Over/Under 2.5 and have usually been successful in these scenarios.  Certainly, there's the odd "get out of hand" game where there's a 0-1 scoreline, and then suddenly home team comes alive and it ends 3-1 or something, but that is usually the extraneous result.

    I haven't posted much, but wanted to share and would welcome any insight on those bettors who enjoy playing overs.  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2016 - 1:58 PM ET #2

    Interesting points.

    I have found success with ingame wagering on games at about the 15 minute mark. If there are situations where it's 1-1 or 2-0 after the 15 minute mark, there is a very good chance of 4 goals or more in that game. Both teams have shown an ability to score, and that is very important. I like the 2-0 situation particularly if the home team is down 0-2.

    Also, usually the oddsmakers will tell you what is expected to happen. I've seen ingame lines of 2.5o -150 at the 30 minute mark of a 0-0 game. Chances are it will be 1-0 at the half, and then 2 or three more in the 2h.

    I tend to play more overs, just because I hate having a game that is a dead under spoiled by an own goal, or a penalty.

    Just my two cents.


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    Interesting points.

    I have found success with ingame wagering on games at about the 15 minute mark. If there are situations where it's 1-1 or 2-0 after the 15 minute mark, there is a very good chance of 4 goals or more in that game. Both teams have shown an ability to score, and that is very important. I like the 2-0 situation particularly if the home team is down 0-2.

    Also, usually the oddsmakers will tell you what is expected to happen. I've seen ingame lines of 2.5o -150 at the 30 minute mark of a 0-0 game. Chances are it will be 1-0 at the half, and then 2 or three more in the 2h.

    I tend to play more overs, just because I hate having a game that is a dead under spoiled by an own goal, or a penalty.

    Just my two cents.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by xar86413:

    Interesting points.

    I have found success with ingame wagering on games at about the 15 minute mark. If there are situations where it's 1-1 or 2-0 after the 15 minute mark, there is a very good chance of 4 goals or more in that game. Both teams have shown an ability to score, and that is very important. I like the 2-0 situation particularly if the home team is down 0-2.

    Also, usually the oddsmakers will tell you what is expected to happen. I've seen ingame lines of 2.5o -150 at the 30 minute mark of a 0-0 game. Chances are it will be 1-0 at the half, and then 2 or three more in the 2h.

    I tend to play more overs, just because I hate having a game that is a dead under spoiled by an own goal, or a penalty.

    Just my two cents.



    I agree with you, I think that live betting is the more positive approach.

    If I would master Unders, then filter what I wouldn't play which doesn't fit the Under Criteria, then I'd by default begin to hit overs as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xar86413:

    Interesting points.

    I have found success with ingame wagering on games at about the 15 minute mark. If there are situations where it's 1-1 or 2-0 after the 15 minute mark, there is a very good chance of 4 goals or more in that game. Both teams have shown an ability to score, and that is very important. I like the 2-0 situation particularly if the home team is down 0-2.

    Also, usually the oddsmakers will tell you what is expected to happen. I've seen ingame lines of 2.5o -150 at the 30 minute mark of a 0-0 game. Chances are it will be 1-0 at the half, and then 2 or three more in the 2h.

    I tend to play more overs, just because I hate having a game that is a dead under spoiled by an own goal, or a penalty.

    Just my two cents.



    I agree with you, I think that live betting is the more positive approach.

    If I would master Unders, then filter what I wouldn't play which doesn't fit the Under Criteria, then I'd by default begin to hit overs as well!

    LOL
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2016 - 4:43 PM ET #4

    Look for more of the same, Under 2.5 tomorrow with AM v. Bayern.
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    Look for more of the same, Under 2.5 tomorrow with AM v. Bayern.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2016 - 4:37 PM ET #5

    AM/Bayern Munich played out as I thought.  Under 2.5

    Look for the Copa Libertadores games to go Under 2.5 as well.  Specifically, look for live betting opportunities at 10 minute mark.
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    AM/Bayern Munich played out as I thought.  Under 2.5

    Look for the Copa Libertadores games to go Under 2.5 as well.  Specifically, look for live betting opportunities at 10 minute mark.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2016 - 2:49 PM ET #6

    Look for Villa v. Liverpool to go under today, along with some Copa matches tonight. Good value.
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    Look for Villa v. Liverpool to go under today, along with some Copa matches tonight. Good value.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2016 - 12:03 PM ET #7

    So last week was a pretty good week with a lot of Unders occuring in games.  I'm not sure if it was a fluke or luck, or combo of both of them.

    Today's games are tough since there's not really a 'meaningful' match.  La Liga, both teams have established table positions.  EPL, probably an Over game, unless Tottenham score first.  

    Germany, it's actually a relegation battle, but everything is juiced to the over, so there's probably a reason.  (Though I would think defenses might be important in this relegation battle match).

    Italy, places are set, so no real reason for a defensive encounter in those two matches.

    Anyone see anything that jumps out at you?
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    So last week was a pretty good week with a lot of Unders occuring in games.  I'm not sure if it was a fluke or luck, or combo of both of them.

    Today's games are tough since there's not really a 'meaningful' match.  La Liga, both teams have established table positions.  EPL, probably an Over game, unless Tottenham score first.  

    Germany, it's actually a relegation battle, but everything is juiced to the over, so there's probably a reason.  (Though I would think defenses might be important in this relegation battle match).

    Italy, places are set, so no real reason for a defensive encounter in those two matches.

    Anyone see anything that jumps out at you?
     
     
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    u didnt mention some massive, massive angles

    1) the impact of substitutions

    2) Has there been a red card

    3) Motivation, does one or both teams need to win

    then you can look at time remaining or elapsed in the match.
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    u didnt mention some massive, massive angles

    1) the impact of substitutions

    2) Has there been a red card

    3) Motivation, does one or both teams need to win

    then you can look at time remaining or elapsed in the match.
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