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#376
tailing Van you make it too easy 
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Euro 2012....
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#378
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
Question for you, I know shit about Soccer but just going off what has happened up until this point doesnt Russia/Poland line seem alot like Denmark/Dutch to you? It would seem there would be alot of people jumping on Russians after first game agianst what I thought was a better team in the Czechs, maybe draw is the play? As I said I no jack about Soccer so assume I am reading to much into this. Thanks and BOL rest of the way.
I dont pay much attention to reading in to lines like this.
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#380
Quote Originally Posted by ZonaCats:
Van, what do u think of Czech +250 to advance? They have two very winnable games coming up against under-manned Greece and Poland.
Van, what do u think of Czech +250 to advance? They have two very winnable games coming up against under-manned Greece and Poland.
Honestly - I think you would get a better price betting them in both games and rolling it over. I like the bet -but I dont like the price.
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#381
Quote Originally Posted by azngujuonfire:
Hey vanzack, i know you wont be able to get to answering this tomorrow. I don't mind waiting. Mexico -1 vs. El Salvador, what do you think?
Hey vanzack, i know you wont be able to get to answering this tomorrow. I don't mind waiting. Mexico -1 vs. El Salvador, what do you think?
No opinion. Its Euro season. I have enough to concentrate on there.
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#382
Quote Originally Posted by parlazy:
Vanzack, would you play the over or the under in my 8 year old cousin's pickup soccer game? His plush giraffe is the keeper, and while he's long he's not very quick. There are also rumors that his spider-man action figure fixed a match last week in a friendly against his sister's plush dora the explorer doll. I can wait about 7 minutes for your response, much appreciated.
Vanzack, would you play the over or the under in my 8 year old cousin's pickup soccer game? His plush giraffe is the keeper, and while he's long he's not very quick. There are also rumors that his spider-man action figure fixed a match last week in a friendly against his sister's plush dora the explorer doll. I can wait about 7 minutes for your response, much appreciated.
Under. Giraffes have a hell of a range.
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#383
Quote Originally Posted by SirRagnar:
I am impressed with your stats, vanzack, and must admit I am paying attention to your picks before placing my own.
Allow me to give you a little feedback other than back padding on one of your recent picks though;
Denmark have had a very good hold on Portugal the last couple of years.
If you look at the last 5 counting matches (not friendlies) Denmark have won 2 and Portugal only 1. 2 have tied. This is from the Euro 2012 qualifier and the 2010 World Cup qualifiers, where Denmark both times ended higher than Portugal(1) as well as Euro 2008.
Denmark usually beat them with a good team collaboration, where Portugal relies on individuals. It's the same team collaboration that caused the upset with Holland (where I actually was on Holland -1 myself).
Had you played a few months ago when the line on Portugal was around +120 I would have agreed with your pick, but I think the value is now on Denmark and the draw, even if I remove my red-white glasses.
I am personally on Denmark +0.25 at +131
(1)
https://www.soccerway.com/international/europe/wc-qualifying-europe/2010-south-africa/group-stage/group-1/
https://www.soccerway.com/international/europe/european-championship-qualification/2012-poland-ukraine/qualifying-round/group-h/
I am impressed with your stats, vanzack, and must admit I am paying attention to your picks before placing my own.
Allow me to give you a little feedback other than back padding on one of your recent picks though;
Denmark have had a very good hold on Portugal the last couple of years.
If you look at the last 5 counting matches (not friendlies) Denmark have won 2 and Portugal only 1. 2 have tied. This is from the Euro 2012 qualifier and the 2010 World Cup qualifiers, where Denmark both times ended higher than Portugal(1) as well as Euro 2008.
Denmark usually beat them with a good team collaboration, where Portugal relies on individuals. It's the same team collaboration that caused the upset with Holland (where I actually was on Holland -1 myself).
Had you played a few months ago when the line on Portugal was around +120 I would have agreed with your pick, but I think the value is now on Denmark and the draw, even if I remove my red-white glasses.
I am personally on Denmark +0.25 at +131
(1)
https://www.soccerway.com/international/europe/wc-qualifying-europe/2010-south-africa/group-stage/group-1/
https://www.soccerway.com/international/europe/european-championship-qualification/2012-poland-ukraine/qualifying-round/group-h/
I appreciate the discussoin and opposing viewpoint.... In fact, I cant argue with what you present.
Denmark beat Portugal in a very important game (win and get in) only 6 months ago 2-1. Cant ignore that. Although it was a home game for Denmark.
This is the first pick of the tournament that I dont have a solid statistical backing for the pick - it is more gut feel - so I cant argue when you present that Portugal is individuals and Denmark plays well together. Portugal did take the earlier qualifier 3-1.
GL - good discussion - Just allowing myself to go on a gut feel (and I say it in my writeup) on this one....
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#385
Quote Originally Posted by eliminat0r85:
Its the group of death for a reason denmark is no slouch i doubt portugal dominates them like everyone thinks.
Its the group of death for a reason denmark is no slouch i doubt portugal dominates them like everyone thinks.
I dont think everyone thinks this. In fact, I am seeing a lot of "why is portugal favored over Denmark?" comments....
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#387
Should be a good one this afternoon. Hopefully the Poles' don't will themselves to a win based on all this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/world/europe/in-poland-uefa-euro-match-with-russia-goes-far-beyond-soccer.html?smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/world/europe/in-poland-uefa-euro-match-with-russia-goes-far-beyond-soccer.html?smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto
Poles Prepare for Soccer Match Against Russians With a Bitter View to History
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#388
Quote Originally Posted by ovacs:
Should be a good one this afternoon. Hopefully the Poles' don't will themselves to a win based on all this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/world/europe/in-poland-uefa-euro-match-with-russia-goes-far-beyond-soccer.html?smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto
Should be a good one this afternoon. Hopefully the Poles' don't will themselves to a win based on all this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/world/europe/in-poland-uefa-euro-match-with-russia-goes-far-beyond-soccer.html?smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto
Poles Prepare for Soccer Match Against Russians With a Bitter View to History
Great story. Does it actually translate to guys kicking a ball around for 90 mins? I dont think so.
GL
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#390
Square or not, I can't make a case for Poland today. Poles will likely need two, and I just don't see it.
Much like an eclipse, I can only watch Greek games through smoked glass. I hate the way they play, insufferably effective as it may be. Didn't the bore their way to a Euro title a few years back? 
That's one more than Englad has. 
Speaking of England, nice work on identifying just how crap they would be. 
Will be very lucky to avoid 4th in the Group.
Great start to the tournament for you. I prefer this Euros to the World Cup 
, at least WC's played in Qatar, or in front of crowds armed with goofy horns. 
I'm going to go to EURO 2016 in France, if I'm still above ground. 
Anyway, stay hot. 
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#392
Van-
I am sorry to bother you. I never bet soccer but would be a fool not to tail you on this shit.
I have bet the pick, -1/2 line with you,
wtf does this thing mean?
Sorry to be such a moron.
Crash
I did pass calc, I,II and III in college, all with A's.
Czechs at Pk and -.5 +108 for 1.5 units. ?
I am sorry to bother you. I never bet soccer but would be a fool not to tail you on this shit.
I have bet the pick, -1/2 line with you,
wtf does this thing mean?
Sorry to be such a moron.
Crash
I did pass calc, I,II and III in college, all with A's.
Czechs at Pk and -.5 +108 for 1.5 units. ?
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#393
Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:
Van-
I am sorry to bother you. I never bet soccer but would be a fool not to tail you on this shit.
I have bet the pick, -1/2 line with you,
wtf does this thing mean?
Sorry to be such a moron.
Crash
I did pass calc, I,II and III in college, all with A's.
Czechs at Pk and -.5 +108 for 1.5 units. ?
Van-
I am sorry to bother you. I never bet soccer but would be a fool not to tail you on this shit.
I have bet the pick, -1/2 line with you,
wtf does this thing mean?
Sorry to be such a moron.
Crash
I did pass calc, I,II and III in college, all with A's.
Czechs at Pk and -.5 +108 for 1.5 units. ?
Maybe this will help you out: https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=36&sub=101364181
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Posted:
#394
Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:
Van-
I am sorry to bother you. I never bet soccer but would be a fool not to tail you on this shit.
I have bet the pick, -1/2 line with you,
wtf does this thing mean?
Sorry to be such a moron.
Crash
I did pass calc, I,II and III in college, all with A's.
Czechs at Pk and -.5 +108 for 1.5 units. ?
Van-
I am sorry to bother you. I never bet soccer but would be a fool not to tail you on this shit.
I have bet the pick, -1/2 line with you,
wtf does this thing mean?
Sorry to be such a moron.
Crash
I did pass calc, I,II and III in college, all with A's.
Czechs at Pk and -.5 +108 for 1.5 units. ?
It means half on pk,and half on -.5. Just split your bet.
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Posted:
#395
Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:
Van-
I am sorry to bother you. I never bet soccer but would be a fool not to tail you on this shit.
I have bet the pick, -1/2 line with you,
wtf does this thing mean?
Sorry to be such a moron.
Crash
I did pass calc, I,II and III in college, all with A's.
Czechs at Pk and -.5 +108 for 1.5 units. ?
Van-
I am sorry to bother you. I never bet soccer but would be a fool not to tail you on this shit.
I have bet the pick, -1/2 line with you,
wtf does this thing mean?
Sorry to be such a moron.
Crash
I did pass calc, I,II and III in college, all with A's.
Czechs at Pk and -.5 +108 for 1.5 units. ?
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Posted:
#400
Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:
Van quick question...
I know you are on Russia -0.5 but faced with the following two options...
Russia -0.5 (+150)
Russia over 1 (-130)
Could obviously make a case for either one but curious on your take.
As I type this Czechs score.
Van quick question...
I know you are on Russia -0.5 but faced with the following two options...
Russia -0.5 (+150)
Russia over 1 (-130)
Could obviously make a case for either one but curious on your take.
As I type this Czechs score.
I dont know....
Would hate to see Russia win 1-0 and you not win your bet....
Im going for it on Russia. I think htey are a class above. And i think this Czech performance so far might give even more insight in to how good they may be......
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