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    Friday night and the rest of the weekend implications

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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 1:39 PM ET #1

    Ok

    Guys.

    My Beloved Doggies - Yes got them at 2.15.......

    Also took the under in the Drags match......Dont know why but i did..I had second thoughts as there best defender - J Smith was out and i thought that could have overs impact, but it didnt.

    Went to the dogs game and for the 1st time this year they decided to play defence which was surprising....Tigers i thought were a bit behind the pace, missing Moltzen and Payten...Any way , good to get the 2 points....

    This leads me to the next conclusion.

    Both games went well well, well , well, well UNDER....

    the last 3 NRL games have gone under.

    The last 7 of 10 games have gone under.....

    U know what that means.......

    Smack the daylights out of the over.,Trust me

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    Ok

    Guys.

    My Beloved Doggies - Yes got them at 2.15.......

    Also took the under in the Drags match......Dont know why but i did..I had second thoughts as there best defender - J Smith was out and i thought that could have overs impact, but it didnt.

    Went to the dogs game and for the 1st time this year they decided to play defence which was surprising....Tigers i thought were a bit behind the pace, missing Moltzen and Payten...Any way , good to get the 2 points....

    This leads me to the next conclusion.

    Both games went well well, well , well, well UNDER....

    the last 3 NRL games have gone under.

    The last 7 of 10 games have gone under.....

    U know what that means.......

    Smack the daylights out of the over.,Trust me

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 8:12 PM ET #2

    Remember i said Tigers are not a overs team,thats why that game went under


    Good job last Night Rostos,,,



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    Remember i said Tigers are not a overs team,thats why that game went under


    Good job last Night Rostos,,,



     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 8:15 PM ET #3

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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 8:40 PM ET #4

    Rostos you must admit though, even though the Dogs won convincly last night there are still some worrying signs

    They had the rub of the green all of the first half, dominated possession and territory yet were only leading 6-0 at the half. They scored their points in the second half basically as a direct result of the Tigers having tackled themselves to the ground

    I'll be looking to fade them consistently throughout the next 2 months.

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    Rostos you must admit though, even though the Dogs won convincly last night there are still some worrying signs

    They had the rub of the green all of the first half, dominated possession and territory yet were only leading 6-0 at the half. They scored their points in the second half basically as a direct result of the Tigers having tackled themselves to the ground

    I'll be looking to fade them consistently throughout the next 2 months.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 8:44 PM ET #5

    I wouldn't be too concerned if I were a Tigers fan. They tackled their guts out and the scoreline in no way reflected the game.

    Agree completely Rod

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    I wouldn't be too concerned if I were a Tigers fan. They tackled their guts out and the scoreline in no way reflected the game.

    Agree completely Rod

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 8:49 PM ET #6

    Tigers are a much better team then the Doggies,they will beat them by 60 in a rematch.
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 10:06 PM ET #7

    rod .. 

    while i do agree plenty of things went in their favour in terms of posession & field position - and also that they failed to capitalise on this - i also believe that they set out deliberately to make this particular game exactly how it panned out. 

    They were in a desperate situation where they NEEDED a win and they also know that if they got into a shootout with the tigers that they just couldnt win. Their defence has been horrible all year leaking points regularly and i think this is related to their attitude towards games. Even while losing this year ( see knights, warriors ) they have played flamboyantly - throwing the ball wide continually etc. It just plain and simple hasnt worked - and the tigers are certainly not the team to keep trying it against.

    Only way to reverse this ( as their tactics reflected ) was to go completely the opposite. Try and GRIND a team into submission. Ball possession, field position, high completion, and denial of the ball to the opposition ( especially in good field position ) to get on top in the long run by wearing them down. I thought they executed what was an obvious pre game tactics PERFECTLY.

    Am perfectly willing to admit that i am a bulldogs fan and hence inherantly biased, but i am also a league fan in general and i thought that for THIS situation the bulldogs played a VERY good game.

    First to admit however that they will not win the competition playing football like last night, primarily because there are teams out there who do what they did last night better than what they can ( at least consistently )

    I just think that they played how they needed to play last night to get 2 points to keep their season in motion, and give them a chance in the back half to "be themselves" and challenge in the semis.

    comments & thoughts are welcome, appreciated 


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    rod .. 

    while i do agree plenty of things went in their favour in terms of posession & field position - and also that they failed to capitalise on this - i also believe that they set out deliberately to make this particular game exactly how it panned out. 

    They were in a desperate situation where they NEEDED a win and they also know that if they got into a shootout with the tigers that they just couldnt win. Their defence has been horrible all year leaking points regularly and i think this is related to their attitude towards games. Even while losing this year ( see knights, warriors ) they have played flamboyantly - throwing the ball wide continually etc. It just plain and simple hasnt worked - and the tigers are certainly not the team to keep trying it against.

    Only way to reverse this ( as their tactics reflected ) was to go completely the opposite. Try and GRIND a team into submission. Ball possession, field position, high completion, and denial of the ball to the opposition ( especially in good field position ) to get on top in the long run by wearing them down. I thought they executed what was an obvious pre game tactics PERFECTLY.

    Am perfectly willing to admit that i am a bulldogs fan and hence inherantly biased, but i am also a league fan in general and i thought that for THIS situation the bulldogs played a VERY good game.

    First to admit however that they will not win the competition playing football like last night, primarily because there are teams out there who do what they did last night better than what they can ( at least consistently )

    I just think that they played how they needed to play last night to get 2 points to keep their season in motion, and give them a chance in the back half to "be themselves" and challenge in the semis.

    comments & thoughts are welcome, appreciated 


     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 10:33 PM ET #8

    No doubt that was their plan bullet.

    I backed the dogs last night because they had to win. I give them credit for sticking solid with their plan, especially when they could only manage 6 points given all the ball and field position they had. A lesser side would have started trying to force offloads etc.

    But put it this way: I was very nervous about my bet at half-time. It wasn't until Benji missed from in front that I felt comfortable

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    No doubt that was their plan bullet.

    I backed the dogs last night because they had to win. I give them credit for sticking solid with their plan, especially when they could only manage 6 points given all the ball and field position they had. A lesser side would have started trying to force offloads etc.

    But put it this way: I was very nervous about my bet at half-time. It wasn't until Benji missed from in front that I felt comfortable

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 10:46 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    . A lesser side would have started trying to force offloads etc.


    Parra

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    . A lesser side would have started trying to force offloads etc.


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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 11:13 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:



    Parra

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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 11:30 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    Rostos you must admit though, even though the Dogs won convincly last night there are still some worrying signs

    They had the rub of the green all of the first half, dominated possession and territory yet were only leading 6-0 at the half. They scored their points in the second half basically as a direct result of the Tigers having tackled themselves to the ground

    I'll be looking to fade them consistently throughout the next 2 months.



    I think the Mutts will be a coin flip a good part of the time. I'll pay attention to them for the next 3 weeks and go from there.
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    Rostos you must admit though, even though the Dogs won convincly last night there are still some worrying signs

    They had the rub of the green all of the first half, dominated possession and territory yet were only leading 6-0 at the half. They scored their points in the second half basically as a direct result of the Tigers having tackled themselves to the ground

    I'll be looking to fade them consistently throughout the next 2 months.



    I think the Mutts will be a coin flip a good part of the time. I'll pay attention to them for the next 3 weeks and go from there.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 11:33 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    This leads me to the next conclusion.

    Both games went well well, well , well, well UNDER....

    the last 3 NRL games have gone under.

    The last 7 of 10 games have gone under.....

    U know what that means.......

    Smack the daylights out of the over.,Trust me




    Same phenomenon seems to be happening with me as last year. If I don't like the over, it's generally going under. And I actually took the St George under. If I can get over this mental tick, I may take a few more unders this year.
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    This leads me to the next conclusion.

    Both games went well well, well , well, well UNDER....

    the last 3 NRL games have gone under.

    The last 7 of 10 games have gone under.....

    U know what that means.......

    Smack the daylights out of the over.,Trust me




    Same phenomenon seems to be happening with me as last year. If I don't like the over, it's generally going under. And I actually took the St George under. If I can get over this mental tick, I may take a few more unders this year.
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2010 - 1:52 AM ET #13

    Rod,

    I agree, the team still is very very much out of form......

    Josh Morris is having a really really tough time of it........

    We are severely undermanned int he forwards, still need to get back Hickey, Paea and Hodgson............Also Corey Payne is out.

    But, this time of the year means nothing.....

    All what counts is, getting into the 8, no injuries with a bit of momentum.

    That is the perfect recipe for success in the NRL.

    One only has to look at the drags last year, and the dogs as well.

    Both ran out of steam at the end...

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    Rod,

    I agree, the team still is very very much out of form......

    Josh Morris is having a really really tough time of it........

    We are severely undermanned int he forwards, still need to get back Hickey, Paea and Hodgson............Also Corey Payne is out.

    But, this time of the year means nothing.....

    All what counts is, getting into the 8, no injuries with a bit of momentum.

    That is the perfect recipe for success in the NRL.

    One only has to look at the drags last year, and the dogs as well.

    Both ran out of steam at the end...

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