BetCrimes1984

The Vegas offense observation is purely factual, their top scorers stunk in that series relative to their reg. season efforts. But just because they stunk, it doesn't mean Skinner's twice shutting them out weren't good efforts, as I noted but you deliberately chose not to because it undermined the point you thought you were making. If the worst teams in the NHL get shut out, the opposing goalie put in a good effort no matter how bad his opponent was (short of his opponent never getting a single shot on goal). 'Sun rises in the morning' stuff.

There's been little that's been consistently wrong with his efforts in these playoffs ever since he got a rough start vs. LA out of the way. Recency bias aside, that's all that matters. In the game just gone he made what turned out to be the tide-turning 1v1 save at 1-3 down, and managed crucial stops in OT I doubt Skinner would've mirrored. When the Panthers did bring the heat, he stood up. His sole error was being too loose in his crease re the late tying goal, but his wasn't the only defensive error in that scoring sequence. He must be there for every game now, irrespective of the next game's result. Skinner is no one's SCF winner, nothing against the guy who obviously put in good results against Dallas and consecutive shutouts to finish off Vegas (but Vegas' top reg. season scorers laid huge eggs in that series, Skinner's results there show more how bad Vegas offense was rather than how good he, Skinner, "really is").

@nattyorange

 Or did he feign being hurt? Are you a doctor?

Go Leafs

Since the 1st round expanded in 1984 to involve 16 teams, no set of road teams have ever gone 4-0 SU in the four game 1's to start the 2nd round.

@spicycurry

 Last year was almost completely against the trends, but the 8 years before that with them (that's excepting the 2020 postseason for the reason explained in the initial post), the last 2 emphatically so: 19-5 to Under in games 6s & 7s for 2022+2023's postseasons. 

I wouldn't write this off due to one outlier set of results. Show me 3 or 4 2024's in a row and I'd concede it was time to retire this angle. That said, this is still only one angle. Multiple elements go into making for a total result, and I wouldn't say to anyone to use these trends as the lone basis to make a bet. It's something to factor in.

claw, iceman

trends really kick in when the weak teams are eliminated and the better teams match-up from the 2R onwards

@jvarghese

 That gap between the two LA fixtures is where the cut & paste from another site didn't carry over the H/GS game for whatever reason (prob because it was underlined)

Throwing you degenerates a bone.

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Playoff basketball brings the the table sudden-death basketball, which is a scenario perfect for the manifestation of Under results - tight players executing deliberate plays isn't the ground upon which liberal scoring is made.

*An elimination game is when at least 1 team faces an end to their post season should they lose the game concerned straight-up.

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Since keeping records??starting with the 03-04 post season, the stats I've accumulated for all Elimination games total results are as follows (please note: due to the fact that 2020's playoff games all took place at a single venue which thereby eliminated home court advantage and thus the effect such would otherwise normally exert on the totals outcome of any given elimination game, I have excluded those results from the data base that follows below)...


Overall

All Elimination Games: U/O 225-182-6

Elimination Games being game 4 or 5 of a Series: U/O 95-101-3
Elimination Games being game 6 or 7 of a Series: U/O 130-81-3


1st Round of playoffs

All Elimination Games: U/O 124-95-2

Elimination Games being game 4 or 5 of a Series: U/O 64-55-1
Elimination Games being game 6 or 7 of a Series: U/O 60-40-1


2nd Round & onwards of playoffs

All Elimination Games: U/O 101-87-4

Elimination Games being game 4 or 5 of a Series: U/O 31-46-2
Elimination Games being game 6 or 7 of a Series: U/O 70-41-2

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The results below will only be integrated with the results noted above at the end of the current post season.

24-25 Playoff Elimination Game results

Round 1

OKC@MEM - Game 4: Over
CLE@MIA - Game 4: Over
MIL@IND - Game 5: Over
DET@NYK - Game 5: Under
ORL@BOS - Game 5: Over
MIN@LAL - Game 5:

DEN@LAC - Game 6: 

Jan. 2004

Back in the day the best threads were always in the penalty box. Dudes went stir crazy in confinement.

Excuse me for 'hijacking' your thread, van, but I think these stats deserve to be viewed (& obv. this thread is well viewed) and it might be useful for you to learn as well going forward:

Couple of historical scoreline angles that I can't see being ignored...

(1) All 8 WC's that have involved the R16 format have delivered a 90 min 0-0 knockout result.

8 knockout games in and none so far. To me, Uru/Fra & Swe/Eng would seem to be the biggest candidates to end the drought. I think the other two games will deliver at least 2 goals each. 

(2) All 8 WC's that have involved the R16 format have delivered a 2-1 knockout result.

There's been 26(!) of these results (17 in 90 mins; 9 after ET: the only WC of the 8 to not deliver a 90 min 2-1 result happens to be the only WC ever played in Asia), that's a rate greater than 3 per WC yet here we've had none with half of the knockout games done & dusted. 

While history guarantees nothing in the present, I struggle to believe that both of these scorelines will just happen to fail to appear for the first time at the same WC. One of them? Always a chance, but both? Don't believe it.