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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2025 - 8:02 PM ET #1

    Always a fun event with the stadium atmosphere. Pretty straightforward course this week at TPC Scottsdale. This is a tournament that we usually see a winning score around 18-20 under par and is pretty balanced in terms of not having one statistical category being overly important. This is a par 71 that measures out at 7,261 yards, although it is at elevation so it will play a little shorter than that. Very driver heavy golf course off the tee and playing out of the rough is extremely easy, ranking dead last on the pga tour in rough penalty. The only concern is the big miss as there is some water on 5 holes and the desert areas can be very penile but only come in play with very wayward drives. The majority of approach shots will come from 150-200 yards so middle iron play is very important, and we do pretty consistently see elite approach players win at this event. It’s also imperative to capitalize on the par 5’s as they are quite easy and reachable in 2 shots. In terms of around the green and putting, this course ranks below average in difficulty in both and poor putters have frequently won here, which will lead me to be much more keen to dial in on elite ball strikers first and foremost. Course history has been pretty predictive here as well as guys tend to play well here year after year. So to recap I want to play good total drivers off the tee, very good approach players particularly with the middle irons, and guys who have played well here and on tpc courses in the past. Guys who play well on desert courses is something I’ll look at as well given the somewhat unique conditions. 

    The first bet I made is Kurt kitayama, who is a vegas guy thus very familiar with desert conditions. Has an 8th and 23rd finish here in his 2 starts. He ranks 6th in this field in approach play for last 36 rounds, as well as 4th in this field in strokes gained off the tee. Also has a good track record on tpc courses ranking in the top 20 in this field. Checks all the boxes for me and loved the price. Thinking on a couple others will be back 

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    Always a fun event with the stadium atmosphere. Pretty straightforward course this week at TPC Scottsdale. This is a tournament that we usually see a winning score around 18-20 under par and is pretty balanced in terms of not having one statistical category being overly important. This is a par 71 that measures out at 7,261 yards, although it is at elevation so it will play a little shorter than that. Very driver heavy golf course off the tee and playing out of the rough is extremely easy, ranking dead last on the pga tour in rough penalty. The only concern is the big miss as there is some water on 5 holes and the desert areas can be very penile but only come in play with very wayward drives. The majority of approach shots will come from 150-200 yards so middle iron play is very important, and we do pretty consistently see elite approach players win at this event. It’s also imperative to capitalize on the par 5’s as they are quite easy and reachable in 2 shots. In terms of around the green and putting, this course ranks below average in difficulty in both and poor putters have frequently won here, which will lead me to be much more keen to dial in on elite ball strikers first and foremost. Course history has been pretty predictive here as well as guys tend to play well here year after year. So to recap I want to play good total drivers off the tee, very good approach players particularly with the middle irons, and guys who have played well here and on tpc courses in the past. Guys who play well on desert courses is something I’ll look at as well given the somewhat unique conditions. 

    The first bet I made is Kurt kitayama, who is a vegas guy thus very familiar with desert conditions. Has an 8th and 23rd finish here in his 2 starts. He ranks 6th in this field in approach play for last 36 rounds, as well as 4th in this field in strokes gained off the tee. Also has a good track record on tpc courses ranking in the top 20 in this field. Checks all the boxes for me and loved the price. Thinking on a couple others will be back 

    Kurt Kitayama (65-1) 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2025 - 7:00 AM ET #2

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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2025 - 12:20 PM ET #3

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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 11:57 PM ET #4

    Kitayama 60/1…

    Woodland 115/1…

    Love it when I’m on the same side with Rollz & Kitayama is a Sys play so ev better…

    Waiting on other sys so prob one more play…

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    Kitayama 60/1…

    Woodland 115/1…

    Love it when I’m on the same side with Rollz & Kitayama is a Sys play so ev better…

    Waiting on other sys so prob one more play…

     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2025 - 1:44 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by WYBBOB:

    Kitayama 60/1… Woodland 115/1… Love it when I’m on the same side with Rollz & Kitayama is a Sys play so ev better… Waiting on other sys so prob one more play…

     

    My brotha peace_5 I agree on the woodland look as well. Dudes striking the ball quite well right now, if he can get the putter going I’d expect to see him in the mix. GL dude 

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    Quote Originally Posted by WYBBOB:

    Kitayama 60/1… Woodland 115/1… Love it when I’m on the same side with Rollz & Kitayama is a Sys play so ev better… Waiting on other sys so prob one more play…

     

    My brotha peace_5 I agree on the woodland look as well. Dudes striking the ball quite well right now, if he can get the putter going I’d expect to see him in the mix. GL dude 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2025 - 2:28 PM ET #6

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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2025 - 10:28 PM ET #7

    One more dart in detry, here’s everything 

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    Sam Stevens (80-1)

    Thomas Detry (90-1) 

     

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    One more dart in detry, here’s everything 

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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2025 - 9:50 AM ET #8

    Scottie vs the Field -390

    I normally dislike odds of that level but one player vs how many in the field this week? I believe -390 is a good number!

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    Scottie vs the Field -390

    I normally dislike odds of that level but one player vs how many in the field this week? I believe -390 is a good number!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2025 - 10:29 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz:

    Scottie vs the Field -390 I normally dislike odds of that level but one player vs how many in the field this week? I believe -390 is a good number!

     

    Just a tough click on a golf course that he plays so well at. Can’t blame you if you did play it though, particularly with the unknowns of rust/hand injury. He definitely looked rusty round 1, shanking bunker shots and all. Somehow he still only ended up 5 off the lead lol.

    Pretty wild how popular he is in DFS this week. Saw him at 80% owned in some pools. That’ll typically work in your favor if you’re betting the field. GL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz:

    Scottie vs the Field -390 I normally dislike odds of that level but one player vs how many in the field this week? I believe -390 is a good number!

     

    Just a tough click on a golf course that he plays so well at. Can’t blame you if you did play it though, particularly with the unknowns of rust/hand injury. He definitely looked rusty round 1, shanking bunker shots and all. Somehow he still only ended up 5 off the lead lol.

    Pretty wild how popular he is in DFS this week. Saw him at 80% owned in some pools. That’ll typically work in your favor if you’re betting the field. GL!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2025 - 5:19 PM ET #10

    Another big round for detry to potentially give us a 2 shot lead after the cut. I worry how sustainable that is as he rolled in a ton of mid-long range putts. But that is why he was on my card, hes had a lot of success on these putting surfaces. Just gotta hope he doesnt find the desert areas off the tee. Hopefully we can get kitayama or burns in the mix as well

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    Another big round for detry to potentially give us a 2 shot lead after the cut. I worry how sustainable that is as he rolled in a ton of mid-long range putts. But that is why he was on my card, hes had a lot of success on these putting surfaces. Just gotta hope he doesnt find the desert areas off the tee. Hopefully we can get kitayama or burns in the mix as well

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2025 - 6:21 PM ET #11

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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2025 - 6:23 PM ET #12

    Big time putt on 18 from detry to hold a comfy 5 stroke lead. Also have a single entry Dfs lineup in 1st place currently.
     still a lot of golf left but in a good position for a big payday going into Sunday. an_2drinks

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    Big time putt on 18 from detry to hold a comfy 5 stroke lead. Also have a single entry Dfs lineup in 1st place currently.
     still a lot of golf left but in a good position for a big payday going into Sunday. an_2drinks

     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2025 - 5:46 PM ET #13

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    Congrats man 

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    Detry finally did it LOL

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    Congrats man 

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    Detry finally did it LOL

     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2025 - 6:02 PM ET #14

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     Great call on Detry. peace_5

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     Great call on Detry. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2025 - 7:00 PM ET #15

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    Thanks man peace_5

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    Thanks my man! Hes had some good runs, finally prevailed. I like his chances in the future on longer golf courses with wide fairways/lack of rough penalty. Has a ton of upside from with the driver and putter when he’s not penalized for missing fairways. Good player this won’t be his last pga tour win. 

     

     

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    Thanks man peace_5

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    Thanks my man! Hes had some good runs, finally prevailed. I like his chances in the future on longer golf courses with wide fairways/lack of rough penalty. Has a ton of upside from with the driver and putter when he’s not penalized for missing fairways. Good player this won’t be his last pga tour win. 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2025 - 7:42 PM ET #16

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    I’ve taken Detry and Cameron Young more then any players and I decided to take this week off…

    Unreal LOL

    Congrats though what a hit, he has been due for quite some time.

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    I’ve taken Detry and Cameron Young more then any players and I decided to take this week off…

    Unreal LOL

    Congrats though what a hit, he has been due for quite some time.

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2025 - 3:52 PM ET #17

    Congrats on Detry call…On Fri nite after 2 days I circle only 2 Names…Spieth & Detry & didn’t follow thru…

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    Congrats on Detry call…On Fri nite after 2 days I circle only 2 Names…Spieth & Detry & didn’t follow thru…

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