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    Why Tiger Woods won't win the 2020 Masters

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    Ponch
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2020 - 12:50 PM ET #1

    I have all the respect in the world for Tiger but here's my rationale:

    1. He lacks reps

    2. He's never won the Masters in November and driving will be more difficult

    3. Greens will likely not be as quick

    4. Older players with physical issues don't traditionally play well in cooler weather

    5. He hasn't played well in months

    Can anyone give me a reason to reconsider other than "He's Tiger"?

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    I have all the respect in the world for Tiger but here's my rationale:

    1. He lacks reps

    2. He's never won the Masters in November and driving will be more difficult

    3. Greens will likely not be as quick

    4. Older players with physical issues don't traditionally play well in cooler weather

    5. He hasn't played well in months

    Can anyone give me a reason to reconsider other than "He's Tiger"?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2020 - 7:40 PM ET #2

    Weather shouldnt be much of an issue - forecast looks to be in the mid 70s all week. But yeah Im with you, won't be putting any money on Tiger to win. He's just not in form. 

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    Weather shouldnt be much of an issue - forecast looks to be in the mid 70s all week. But yeah Im with you, won't be putting any money on Tiger to win. He's just not in form. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2020 - 10:59 PM ET #3

    I agree I won't be putting any money on Tiger at The Masters. Not following all of your reasoning though

     

    To your point 2 listed...What active player has won The Masters in November? Hmmm Driving will only be more difficult if strong wind especially a north one which may or may not happen

     

    To your point 3 listed....You stated, "Greens will likely not be as quick." This is absolutely false UNLESS there is extreme rain. The course has Bentgrass greens which thrive in cooler weather. Average temperature in April around tourney time is mid to high 70s. The tourney will likely be anywhere from 70-80 range this week. The course has air systems that can not only vacuum water from the greens but also heat or cool them. Huge difference!

     

    To your point 4 listed.....He won it at 43, he can win it at 44.

     

    I am not playing money on Tiger Woods. If he beats me I can live with it.

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    I agree I won't be putting any money on Tiger at The Masters. Not following all of your reasoning though

     

    To your point 2 listed...What active player has won The Masters in November? Hmmm Driving will only be more difficult if strong wind especially a north one which may or may not happen

     

    To your point 3 listed....You stated, "Greens will likely not be as quick." This is absolutely false UNLESS there is extreme rain. The course has Bentgrass greens which thrive in cooler weather. Average temperature in April around tourney time is mid to high 70s. The tourney will likely be anywhere from 70-80 range this week. The course has air systems that can not only vacuum water from the greens but also heat or cool them. Huge difference!

     

    To your point 4 listed.....He won it at 43, he can win it at 44.

     

    I am not playing money on Tiger Woods. If he beats me I can live with it.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 10:32 AM ET #4

    I would never NOT put money on a 5 time green jacket winner! Experience over reps, especially at Augusta.  Top 10 or Top 5??

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    I would never NOT put money on a 5 time green jacket winner! Experience over reps, especially at Augusta.  Top 10 or Top 5??

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 11:35 AM ET #5

    It all depends on the type of golf wagering you like. Woods has a history of loving this course. That being said a top 10 finish on Woods at say 3/1 to 3.5/1 doesn't appeal to me that much. Best of luck this week!

    I will say the main thing I am concerned about is Thursday golf. There will be rain this week but I am wondering if they even tee off on Thursday. Not sure time of day but see lightning in the forecast Wednesday and Thursday. As someone who loves First Round Leader wagers, this is my biggest factor of now.

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    It all depends on the type of golf wagering you like. Woods has a history of loving this course. That being said a top 10 finish on Woods at say 3/1 to 3.5/1 doesn't appeal to me that much. Best of luck this week!

    I will say the main thing I am concerned about is Thursday golf. There will be rain this week but I am wondering if they even tee off on Thursday. Not sure time of day but see lightning in the forecast Wednesday and Thursday. As someone who loves First Round Leader wagers, this is my biggest factor of now.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 11:42 AM ET #6

    Xander needs this lol

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    Xander needs this lol

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 7:27 PM ET #7

    I replied to your other thread but the main reason why he won´t win, at least from my perspective, relates to how strong the competition is looking this year. 

    Last year, Rory disappointed. He was clearly the man to beat, but as usually happens with Rory, when he is under the spotlight he fails. 

    This year we have the best version I have ever seen of DJ, and the most revolutionary golfer in his peak level since Tiger Woods himself. Then you also have Rahm, JT, Xander (and my horses Bubba and Finau), all playing light out. I think we are in for some very low scores. Even if he played at the level he did last year, I doubt he would be able to win it. And with the form he has shown recently, I just don´t see any chance. Not even if you gave me Tiger at 75.0 I would take him. 

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    I replied to your other thread but the main reason why he won´t win, at least from my perspective, relates to how strong the competition is looking this year. 

    Last year, Rory disappointed. He was clearly the man to beat, but as usually happens with Rory, when he is under the spotlight he fails. 

    This year we have the best version I have ever seen of DJ, and the most revolutionary golfer in his peak level since Tiger Woods himself. Then you also have Rahm, JT, Xander (and my horses Bubba and Finau), all playing light out. I think we are in for some very low scores. Even if he played at the level he did last year, I doubt he would be able to win it. And with the form he has shown recently, I just don´t see any chance. Not even if you gave me Tiger at 75.0 I would take him. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 7:46 PM ET #8

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     Well said

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    @gutinstinctus

     Well said

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 9:38 PM ET #9

    I can get +100 on Tigers 1st tee shot to land on the fairway. Good bet?

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    I can get +100 on Tigers 1st tee shot to land on the fairway. Good bet?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 9:56 PM ET #10

    Decent for fairway #1

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    Decent for fairway #1

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 11:23 PM ET #11

    Just remember he will tee off from hole #10
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    Just remember he will tee off from hole #10
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2020 - 6:32 AM ET #12

    Thanks fightingillini

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    Thanks fightingillini

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2020 - 7:22 AM ET #13

    @Ponch

     the guy is finished.  He has not been in contention in years.  Good chance he will never win again.

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    @Ponch

     the guy is finished.  He has not been in contention in years.  Good chance he will never win again.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2020 - 11:31 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by one_on_one:

    @Ponch  the guy is finished.  He has not been in contention in years.  Good chance he will never win again.

    Didn't he just win the Masters last year?

    clover

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_on_one:

    @Ponch  the guy is finished.  He has not been in contention in years.  Good chance he will never win again.

    Didn't he just win the Masters last year?

    clover

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2020 - 11:45 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by one_on_one:

    @Ponch  the guy is finished.  He has not been in contention in years.  Good chance he will never win again.

    Tiger won last year. Tiger won the Tour Championship 2 years ago. He is not finished and never will be for the next 10 years. But right now, his form is not good and he won´t win it. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_on_one:

    @Ponch  the guy is finished.  He has not been in contention in years.  Good chance he will never win again.

    Tiger won last year. Tiger won the Tour Championship 2 years ago. He is not finished and never will be for the next 10 years. But right now, his form is not good and he won´t win it. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2020 - 12:17 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackwaterOP:

    Quote Originally Posted by one_on_one: @Ponch  the guy is finished.  He has not been in contention in years.  Good chance he will never win again. Didn't he just win the Masters last year?

    I was just gonna say.....confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackwaterOP:

    Quote Originally Posted by one_on_one: @Ponch  the guy is finished.  He has not been in contention in years.  Good chance he will never win again. Didn't he just win the Masters last year?

    I was just gonna say.....confused

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2020 - 9:13 AM ET #17

    Tiger making me look bad so far...

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    Tiger making me look bad so far...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2020 - 9:23 AM ET #18

    Lmao at all these golf experts 

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    Lmao at all these golf experts 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2020 - 12:43 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Ponch:

    Tiger making me look bad so far...
    The odds were certainly against it.......only 3x has someone won it B2B (he was the last), & like you mentioned, Tiger hadn't been playing much or very well when he did.

     But........he was looking good in the days leading up to the 1st round, & if he's within 4-5 shots after today he has a legit shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponch:

    Tiger making me look bad so far...
    The odds were certainly against it.......only 3x has someone won it B2B (he was the last), & like you mentioned, Tiger hadn't been playing much or very well when he did.

     But........he was looking good in the days leading up to the 1st round, & if he's within 4-5 shots after today he has a legit shot.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2020 - 3:32 PM ET #20

    Tiger beat the field in his day but he never had to face the stiff competition that Nicklaus had...who was Woods' chief competitor? It wasn't Phil no way, no how...was it Vijay? The Korean head to head was the only one who took him on and beat him in the major...
    Nicklaus had Palmer, Player, Watson, Miller, Trevino to deal with...big Jack finished in 2nd place 19 times in majors, seven of those at the British Open (wrap your minds around that one)...of course there is the juiced up Tiger and the clean Tiger. Oh well, the Tiger fanboys will never see it this way but it is the truth. 

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    Tiger beat the field in his day but he never had to face the stiff competition that Nicklaus had...who was Woods' chief competitor? It wasn't Phil no way, no how...was it Vijay? The Korean head to head was the only one who took him on and beat him in the major...
    Nicklaus had Palmer, Player, Watson, Miller, Trevino to deal with...big Jack finished in 2nd place 19 times in majors, seven of those at the British Open (wrap your minds around that one)...of course there is the juiced up Tiger and the clean Tiger. Oh well, the Tiger fanboys will never see it this way but it is the truth. 

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2020 - 3:56 PM ET #21

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     This clown talking after the first round as if Tiger has won anything. Look at my argument about the competition and look at the scoreboard. Tiger shoots his best first round ever, but he still is 3 strokes behind...

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    @DJANG0

     This clown talking after the first round as if Tiger has won anything. Look at my argument about the competition and look at the scoreboard. Tiger shoots his best first round ever, but he still is 3 strokes behind...

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