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    Zcampbell24
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2019 - 3:47 PM ET #1

    TMU
    Thomas -150 v. Rahm
    Woods -105 v. Koepka
    Watson +115 v. Cantlay
    Bello -125 v. Molinari
    Hatton -160 v. Wallace

    Terrible week last week but looking to get back on track
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    TMU
    Thomas -150 v. Rahm
    Woods -105 v. Koepka
    Watson +115 v. Cantlay
    Bello -125 v. Molinari
    Hatton -160 v. Wallace

    Terrible week last week but looking to get back on track
     
    Zcampbell24
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2019 - 12:31 PM ET #2

    Adding: Fleetwood (-150) v. Garcia

    Justin Thomas +920 for .5u

    Puerto Rico Open:
    Berger (-155) v. Mcdowell
    Berger (-155) v. Uihlein

    Didn't get the best line but riding with the better player
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    Adding: Fleetwood (-150) v. Garcia

    Justin Thomas +920 for .5u

    Puerto Rico Open:
    Berger (-155) v. Mcdowell
    Berger (-155) v. Uihlein

    Didn't get the best line but riding with the better player
     
    JamieR44
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2019 - 3:17 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Zcampbell24:

    Adding: Fleetwood (-150) v. GarciaJustin Thomas +920 for .5uPuerto Rico Open:Berger (-155) v. McdowellBerger (-155) v. UihleinDidn't get the best line but riding with the better player

    Absolutely with you on Garcia...his little meltdown will haunt him...I'm gonna fade all season, until he shows me a reason to do something other than.

    I'm a bit stumped on the book's love for Berger...He needs to put a tournament together...too much talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zcampbell24:

    Adding: Fleetwood (-150) v. GarciaJustin Thomas +920 for .5uPuerto Rico Open:Berger (-155) v. McdowellBerger (-155) v. UihleinDidn't get the best line but riding with the better player

    Absolutely with you on Garcia...his little meltdown will haunt him...I'm gonna fade all season, until he shows me a reason to do something other than.

    I'm a bit stumped on the book's love for Berger...He needs to put a tournament together...too much talent.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2019 - 12:41 AM ET #4

    Whaddup Z!!!!  Hope you get on track this week sir!!!

    Careful with laying too much juice on some of those matchups. If you bet $100 per bet with Thomas-Rahm, Hatton-Wallace, and Fleetwood-Sergio that means you have $460 at stake.  Even if you go 2-1, you're only profiting around $50.  If you go 1-2, you're losing around $200.  The math isn't in your favor.

    Also, I would say the research doesn't support making those bets on the favorites.  Here's a bit of handicapping I did on these matchups for you to play devils advocate...

    Thomas ov Rahm

    Rahm's worst finish in the last three months is 10th, and he has a 3rd place finish here two years ago.  Thomas has two finishes in his last 5 tournaments outside the top 10.  Not saying Rahm is better, but it's not worth -150.

    Hatton -160 ov Wallace

    Hatton has two great finishes here, but this year he hasn't been good.  Missed the cut in 2 out of the last 4 tournaments including a really bad performance at the Genesis where he wasn't even close to making the cut.  Wallace missed the cut at the Saudi Arabia tournament, but before that had 5 top 18 performances, and the last 2 tournaments they've played in together, Wallace has finished ahead of him.

    Fleetwood ov Sergio

    I'm betting Sergio this week in this matchup just because of the value.  Everyone remembers the Sergio meltdown, but befoer that his finishes on the Euro Tour were 3rd, 6th, 9th, 2nd, 1st.  He had a terrible first round last week, but fought back, made the cut and shot par or under in the last 3 rounds.  He's played here twice and finished 12th and 7th, where Tommy Fleetwood has finished 2nd and 14th here, but has not been sharp recently.   42nd, 16th, 45th, 28th in his last 4 tournaments.  

    I'm not making the case that all these matchups will lose, I'm just making the case that they aren't worth laying all that juice.  You may go 3-0 this week, but long term it's not a winning strategy.

    I'll also play devils advocate on the Daniel Berger play...

    When guys come back from an injury, they usually have one good week on their initial comeback.  Adrenalin, excitement, etc.  Then they fall back to earth.  Berger had a very serious injury for his golf swing, and it's going to take him a long time to adjust.  He might not ever regain his form before the injury.  His first tournament back, he was great, but in the two since then he missed the cut in two straight.  Laying -155 is not a good idea with a guy coming off an injury.

    One of my personal rules is never get involved with multiple bets involving the same person, but doing it twice at -155 is super super risky.  If Berger is bad again, you're at risk for big losses going 0-2.  If he only beats one of them you still lose money.  So if you're betting $155 on each bet to win $100 you're betting $310 to win $200 on a guy coming off a brutal injury who's missed the cut in two straight tournaments.  It's not good value.

    I hope this helps a bit... keep posting in here... Hope you win a ton this week!!!

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    Whaddup Z!!!!  Hope you get on track this week sir!!!

    Careful with laying too much juice on some of those matchups. If you bet $100 per bet with Thomas-Rahm, Hatton-Wallace, and Fleetwood-Sergio that means you have $460 at stake.  Even if you go 2-1, you're only profiting around $50.  If you go 1-2, you're losing around $200.  The math isn't in your favor.

    Also, I would say the research doesn't support making those bets on the favorites.  Here's a bit of handicapping I did on these matchups for you to play devils advocate...

    Thomas ov Rahm

    Rahm's worst finish in the last three months is 10th, and he has a 3rd place finish here two years ago.  Thomas has two finishes in his last 5 tournaments outside the top 10.  Not saying Rahm is better, but it's not worth -150.

    Hatton -160 ov Wallace

    Hatton has two great finishes here, but this year he hasn't been good.  Missed the cut in 2 out of the last 4 tournaments including a really bad performance at the Genesis where he wasn't even close to making the cut.  Wallace missed the cut at the Saudi Arabia tournament, but before that had 5 top 18 performances, and the last 2 tournaments they've played in together, Wallace has finished ahead of him.

    Fleetwood ov Sergio

    I'm betting Sergio this week in this matchup just because of the value.  Everyone remembers the Sergio meltdown, but befoer that his finishes on the Euro Tour were 3rd, 6th, 9th, 2nd, 1st.  He had a terrible first round last week, but fought back, made the cut and shot par or under in the last 3 rounds.  He's played here twice and finished 12th and 7th, where Tommy Fleetwood has finished 2nd and 14th here, but has not been sharp recently.   42nd, 16th, 45th, 28th in his last 4 tournaments.  

    I'm not making the case that all these matchups will lose, I'm just making the case that they aren't worth laying all that juice.  You may go 3-0 this week, but long term it's not a winning strategy.

    I'll also play devils advocate on the Daniel Berger play...

    When guys come back from an injury, they usually have one good week on their initial comeback.  Adrenalin, excitement, etc.  Then they fall back to earth.  Berger had a very serious injury for his golf swing, and it's going to take him a long time to adjust.  He might not ever regain his form before the injury.  His first tournament back, he was great, but in the two since then he missed the cut in two straight.  Laying -155 is not a good idea with a guy coming off an injury.

    One of my personal rules is never get involved with multiple bets involving the same person, but doing it twice at -155 is super super risky.  If Berger is bad again, you're at risk for big losses going 0-2.  If he only beats one of them you still lose money.  So if you're betting $155 on each bet to win $100 you're betting $310 to win $200 on a guy coming off a brutal injury who's missed the cut in two straight tournaments.  It's not good value.

    I hope this helps a bit... keep posting in here... Hope you win a ton this week!!!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2019 - 10:56 AM ET #5

    Awesome stuff Alan!! Need to make that post it's own thread!
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    Awesome stuff Alan!! Need to make that post it's own thread!
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2019 - 11:55 AM ET #6

    In the long run....laying that much juice consistently is a recipe for disaster!

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    In the long run....laying that much juice consistently is a recipe for disaster!

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