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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2020 - 7:24 PM ET #1

    3 plays to start

    may be more to follow 

    Louie -120 v Day

    Day is so talented and can come up and bite us, but more likely he he will be up the track and is more capable of most of just pulling a w/d
    Louie is consistently solid and is playing solid right now and although he only played here 1x many years ago he finished T4 while Day also played here 1x many years ago and finished T57


    Harman -115 v Kokrak

    Harman is a Georgia guy. Born in Georgia went to U of Georgia
    Playing in SC which is a stones throw away in 
    Hilton Head
    Harman is very familiar with these conditions/greens down south.
    He has a decent record here and has finished 14/32/4 here the past 3 years
    Plus he is playing well right now having made his last 7 cuts. Generally is top 30

    Meanwhile Kokrak last 4x here 2MC 45 & 66
    Also MC 2 of last 4 recently while winning 1.
    Harman is the steadier player and should be pretty good this week

    Henley -110 v English

    Henley another Georgia guy (English also went to U of Georgia I think?)

    Henley has been very good lately.
    Last 4x recently 29/4/3/7
    Last 2x here he has MC but his form right now is so much better than it was then plus the 3x he played here before the past 2 MC he was 10/6/4 so he definitely can play here when in good form

    English last 4x here 3MC and T46
    A lot of that had to do with English losing his game for a few years and while he is playing better, he has been off 1 month

    The last 3x English played in a tourney Henley also played in same tourney and Henley finished ahead of English all 3x


    I think he beats English

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    3 plays to start

    may be more to follow 

    Louie -120 v Day

    Day is so talented and can come up and bite us, but more likely he he will be up the track and is more capable of most of just pulling a w/d
    Louie is consistently solid and is playing solid right now and although he only played here 1x many years ago he finished T4 while Day also played here 1x many years ago and finished T57


    Harman -115 v Kokrak

    Harman is a Georgia guy. Born in Georgia went to U of Georgia
    Playing in SC which is a stones throw away in 
    Hilton Head
    Harman is very familiar with these conditions/greens down south.
    He has a decent record here and has finished 14/32/4 here the past 3 years
    Plus he is playing well right now having made his last 7 cuts. Generally is top 30

    Meanwhile Kokrak last 4x here 2MC 45 & 66
    Also MC 2 of last 4 recently while winning 1.
    Harman is the steadier player and should be pretty good this week

    Henley -110 v English

    Henley another Georgia guy (English also went to U of Georgia I think?)

    Henley has been very good lately.
    Last 4x recently 29/4/3/7
    Last 2x here he has MC but his form right now is so much better than it was then plus the 3x he played here before the past 2 MC he was 10/6/4 so he definitely can play here when in good form

    English last 4x here 3MC and T46
    A lot of that had to do with English losing his game for a few years and while he is playing better, he has been off 1 month

    The last 3x English played in a tourney Henley also played in same tourney and Henley finished ahead of English all 3x


    I think he beats English

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2020 - 8:51 PM ET #2

    Btw YTD 2-0

    last week

    max play Ancer v Champ W

    reg play DJ v Rory W

     

    adding a 4th play

    Munoz -110 v Niemann

    munoz playing great

    munoz underrated

    munoz finished T3 here last year

    niemann been off with COVID +

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    Btw YTD 2-0

    last week

    max play Ancer v Champ W

    reg play DJ v Rory W

     

    adding a 4th play

    Munoz -110 v Niemann

    munoz playing great

    munoz underrated

    munoz finished T3 here last year

    niemann been off with COVID +

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2020 - 8:58 PM ET #3

    Looks like a solid card. I am a big Munoz follower(especially when he has longer odds)

     

    BOL this tourney  clover

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    Looks like a solid card. I am a big Munoz follower(especially when he has longer odds)

     

    BOL this tourney  clover

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2020 - 8:35 AM ET #4

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    Adding play #5

    Im -125 v Fleetwood
    Im finished 2 at Masters beating Fleetwood easily.
    Im playing better than Fleetwood this year.
    Shorter course this week
    Strokes gained tee to green
    Im +.745
    Fleetwood -.86

    This says it all
    Fleetwood just not sharp

    Strokes gained putting Im slight edge
    Im +.01
    Fleetwood -.02


    Im played here 2019 so has some experience here finished T37
    Fleetwood 1st time here so slight edge there too

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    Adding play #5

    Im -125 v Fleetwood
    Im finished 2 at Masters beating Fleetwood easily.
    Im playing better than Fleetwood this year.
    Shorter course this week
    Strokes gained tee to green
    Im +.745
    Fleetwood -.86

    This says it all
    Fleetwood just not sharp

    Strokes gained putting Im slight edge
    Im +.01
    Fleetwood -.02


    Im played here 2019 so has some experience here finished T37
    Fleetwood 1st time here so slight edge there too

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2020 - 12:51 PM ET #5

    Overall I like the plays. Just my 2 cents regarding some of the reasons behind your plays. BTW thanks for the writeup!!

    I like Henley beating English due to recent form. However, ties to the course actually could give an edge to English. English lives at Sea Island. Actually Harris English is one guy that I considered betting as well, but I went with Henley and Kisner. 

    Regarding Fleetwood and Im, I sense a letdown from Im. His Masters performance is a bit deceptive. He was the best scrambler of the tournament and that made the difference. But great scrambling does not mean he was playing great golf at all last weekend. 

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    Overall I like the plays. Just my 2 cents regarding some of the reasons behind your plays. BTW thanks for the writeup!!

    I like Henley beating English due to recent form. However, ties to the course actually could give an edge to English. English lives at Sea Island. Actually Harris English is one guy that I considered betting as well, but I went with Henley and Kisner. 

    Regarding Fleetwood and Im, I sense a letdown from Im. His Masters performance is a bit deceptive. He was the best scrambler of the tournament and that made the difference. But great scrambling does not mean he was playing great golf at all last weekend. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2020 - 3:35 PM ET #6

    Gutinstinctus 

    thanks for the reply.  Good info 

    looks like I should’ve stayed out with my original 3 picks as the 2 additions I added not looking so good

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    Gutinstinctus 

    thanks for the reply.  Good info 

    looks like I should’ve stayed out with my original 3 picks as the 2 additions I added not looking so good

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2020 - 6:54 AM ET #7

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     Rd2 Max bet

    Day was awful Rd1

    Lucky to be -1

    Didn't have any birdie putts inside 14' until the 18th when he drove in rough and hit to 8' and of course made birdie

    He made all putts and was +3.2 putting while making over 100’ of putts
    Greens in reg English 83% Day 50%

    Day had the 1 putt for bird inside 10' (last hole)
    English had 7 putts inside 10' for bird
    English beat Day by 3 but could've been more

    Oh (kudos to Gutinstinctus for info on English membership/home) I almost forgot to mention that English is a member at this place and has a home there so he is very comfortable on the course and gets to sleep in his bed!

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     Rd2 Max bet

    Day was awful Rd1

    Lucky to be -1

    Didn't have any birdie putts inside 14' until the 18th when he drove in rough and hit to 8' and of course made birdie

    He made all putts and was +3.2 putting while making over 100’ of putts
    Greens in reg English 83% Day 50%

    Day had the 1 putt for bird inside 10' (last hole)
    English had 7 putts inside 10' for bird
    English beat Day by 3 but could've been more

    Oh (kudos to Gutinstinctus for info on English membership/home) I almost forgot to mention that English is a member at this place and has a home there so he is very comfortable on the course and gets to sleep in his bed!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2020 - 8:00 AM ET #8

    @sacker17
     Oops wrote up the play but forgot to title the play as

    max play rd2 English -130 v Day

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    @sacker17
     Oops wrote up the play but forgot to title the play as

    max play rd2 English -130 v Day

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2020 - 10:05 AM ET #9

    There are a number of guys in this field who live in the area or played this course a ton. Harris looked quite comfortable yesterday BOL today
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    There are a number of guys in this field who live in the area or played this course a ton. Harris looked quite comfortable yesterday BOL today
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2020 - 10:11 AM ET #10

    Cheers Sacker! Looks good. BOL with the play. 

    I feel like there is lots of value on the outrights in play. I can´t believe Webb is paying 8.0 after shooting -2 (I feel he should be paying 15/1). There has to be value somewhere else when you have odds like this. 

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    Cheers Sacker! Looks good. BOL with the play. 

    I feel like there is lots of value on the outrights in play. I can´t believe Webb is paying 8.0 after shooting -2 (I feel he should be paying 15/1). There has to be value somewhere else when you have odds like this. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2020 - 4:25 PM ET #11

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     Thanks for the cash. peace_5

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     Thanks for the cash. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2020 - 8:29 AM ET #12

    Max play rd3

    RD3
    Howell -115 v Wallace
    Howell absolutely loves this place
    Won it 2 years ago
    Played here every year the past 10 years 2 MC in 10 but both were in the past 3 years sandwiched in by a win !
    4 Top 9 finishes and a T13/T27/T32
    So 5x top 13 in 10 tries

    This year looks like another good finish

    Howell played good yesterday finishing -3 but it could’ve been better as he missed 2 putts of 4’+ and another 3’+
    He hit 89% greens yesterday and 83% Rd1

    Wallace caddy tested COVID + so he picked up a local caddy and I guess he helped him read greens because he putted great round 1 at +4.44 strokes gained putting
    That for a guy who is an average putter at best
    Yesterday a return to reality he was -1
    Wallace greens in regulation this week not bad 78% both days but still behind Howell

    More reality today for Wallace
    Go with Howell who plays here every year and has an excellent record here
    Howell max bet

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    Max play rd3

    RD3
    Howell -115 v Wallace
    Howell absolutely loves this place
    Won it 2 years ago
    Played here every year the past 10 years 2 MC in 10 but both were in the past 3 years sandwiched in by a win !
    4 Top 9 finishes and a T13/T27/T32
    So 5x top 13 in 10 tries

    This year looks like another good finish

    Howell played good yesterday finishing -3 but it could’ve been better as he missed 2 putts of 4’+ and another 3’+
    He hit 89% greens yesterday and 83% Rd1

    Wallace caddy tested COVID + so he picked up a local caddy and I guess he helped him read greens because he putted great round 1 at +4.44 strokes gained putting
    That for a guy who is an average putter at best
    Yesterday a return to reality he was -1
    Wallace greens in regulation this week not bad 78% both days but still behind Howell

    More reality today for Wallace
    Go with Howell who plays here every year and has an excellent record here
    Howell max bet

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2020 - 8:34 AM ET #13

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     Hey gutinstinctus 

    what’s your thoughts rd3 on English right back v Kizzire?

    looks good but as a general rule I hate laying -200 in a daily round bet

     

    kizzire putted ridiculously Rd1 at +4.49 strokes gained while making 180’ of putts which is unheard of

    english just so solidly rolling along 

    Kizzire is a good putter I’ll give him that but putting like Kizzire did at +4.49 is not sustainable 

    probably should lay off as line is too high and I didn’t get to watch any golf yesterday as I was on the road all day

    thoughts?

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     Hey gutinstinctus 

    what’s your thoughts rd3 on English right back v Kizzire?

    looks good but as a general rule I hate laying -200 in a daily round bet

     

    kizzire putted ridiculously Rd1 at +4.49 strokes gained while making 180’ of putts which is unheard of

    english just so solidly rolling along 

    Kizzire is a good putter I’ll give him that but putting like Kizzire did at +4.49 is not sustainable 

    probably should lay off as line is too high and I didn’t get to watch any golf yesterday as I was on the road all day

    thoughts?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2020 - 11:21 AM ET #14

    Damn Wallace makes every putt rd3 -2(3)

    drives in bunker on 1 and hits to 8’ and makes putt

    on par 3 3rd hits to 25’ and makes putt

     

    howell 100% greens and 100% fairways has been inside Wallace on 2 of 3 holes and is down 2 at E

    Ughh

     

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    Damn Wallace makes every putt rd3 -2(3)

    drives in bunker on 1 and hits to 8’ and makes putt

    on par 3 3rd hits to 25’ and makes putt

     

    howell 100% greens and 100% fairways has been inside Wallace on 2 of 3 holes and is down 2 at E

    Ughh

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2020 - 10:54 PM ET #15

    Awful tough luck loss which should've won but lost on putting 

    Howell is 5th ranked putter on tour averaging +1.49/rd putting

    Today he missed everything (-2.58 strokes putting) and lost 4 strokes putting to Wallace +1.6

    On the course Howell was the better player 

    Howell hit more greens 78%-67%
    Howell hit more fairways 78%-64%
    Howell forgot how to putt
    Lose by 2

     

    sorry to those that followed 

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    Awful tough luck loss which should've won but lost on putting 

    Howell is 5th ranked putter on tour averaging +1.49/rd putting

    Today he missed everything (-2.58 strokes putting) and lost 4 strokes putting to Wallace +1.6

    On the course Howell was the better player 

    Howell hit more greens 78%-67%
    Howell hit more fairways 78%-64%
    Howell forgot how to putt
    Lose by 2

     

    sorry to those that followed 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2020 - 8:15 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by sacker17:

    3 plays to start may be more to follow  Louie -120 v Day Day is so talented and can come up and bite us, but more likely he he will be up the track and is more capable of most of just pulling a w/dLouie is consistently solid and is playing solid right now and although he only played here 1x many years ago he finished T4 while Day also played here 1x many years ago and finished T57 Harman -115 v Kokrak Harman is a Georgia guy. Born in Georgia went to U of GeorgiaPlaying in SC which is a stones throw away in Hilton Head Harman is very familiar with these conditions/greens down south.He has a decent record here and has finished 14/32/4 here the past 3 yearsPlus he is playing well right now having made his last 7 cuts. Generally is top 30 Meanwhile Kokrak last 4x here 2MC 45 & 66Also MC 2 of last 4 recently while winning 1.Harman is the steadier player and should be pretty good this week Henley -110 v English Henley another Georgia guy (English also went to U of Georgia I think?) Henley has been very good lately.Last 4x recently 29/4/3/7Last 2x here he has MC but his form right now is so much better than it was then plus the 3x he played here before the past 2 MC he was 10/6/4 so he definitely can play here when in good form English last 4x here 3MC and T46A lot of that had to do with English losing his game for a few years and while he is playing better, he has been off 1 month The last 3x English played in a tourney Henley also played in same tourney and Henley finished ahead of English all 3x I think he beats English

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacker17:

    3 plays to start may be more to follow  Louie -120 v Day Day is so talented and can come up and bite us, but more likely he he will be up the track and is more capable of most of just pulling a w/dLouie is consistently solid and is playing solid right now and although he only played here 1x many years ago he finished T4 while Day also played here 1x many years ago and finished T57 Harman -115 v Kokrak Harman is a Georgia guy. Born in Georgia went to U of GeorgiaPlaying in SC which is a stones throw away in Hilton Head Harman is very familiar with these conditions/greens down south.He has a decent record here and has finished 14/32/4 here the past 3 yearsPlus he is playing well right now having made his last 7 cuts. Generally is top 30 Meanwhile Kokrak last 4x here 2MC 45 & 66Also MC 2 of last 4 recently while winning 1.Harman is the steadier player and should be pretty good this week Henley -110 v English Henley another Georgia guy (English also went to U of Georgia I think?) Henley has been very good lately.Last 4x recently 29/4/3/7Last 2x here he has MC but his form right now is so much better than it was then plus the 3x he played here before the past 2 MC he was 10/6/4 so he definitely can play here when in good form English last 4x here 3MC and T46A lot of that had to do with English losing his game for a few years and while he is playing better, he has been off 1 month The last 3x English played in a tourney Henley also played in same tourney and Henley finished ahead of English all 3x I think he beats English

     
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    @sacker17

     Well rd3 was just brutal for me as Howell outplayed Wallace but lost 4 strokes on the putting green

    every time Wallace was ready to bogey he would drop in another 10-12 footer for par 

    was gonna lay low as this doesn’t seem to be a good tourney for me but just trying to work hard and keep my head straight

    I bet rd4

    Day -115 v Kuchar

    Day is the better player when playing well and this week he is.
    I never liked Kuchar on a Sunday anyway
    They played together yesterday and pushed when Kuchar made an22’ bird on 18
    Kuchar was +2.07 putting hitting 72% greens
    Day was -+1.65 putting and hit 83%
    Day hit 89% greens rd2 so after a lousy Rd1 Day has played real well

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    @sacker17

     Well rd3 was just brutal for me as Howell outplayed Wallace but lost 4 strokes on the putting green

    every time Wallace was ready to bogey he would drop in another 10-12 footer for par 

    was gonna lay low as this doesn’t seem to be a good tourney for me but just trying to work hard and keep my head straight

    I bet rd4

    Day -115 v Kuchar

    Day is the better player when playing well and this week he is.
    I never liked Kuchar on a Sunday anyway
    They played together yesterday and pushed when Kuchar made an22’ bird on 18
    Kuchar was +2.07 putting hitting 72% greens
    Day was -+1.65 putting and hit 83%
    Day hit 89% greens rd2 so after a lousy Rd1 Day has played real well

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2020 - 4:27 PM ET #18

    Day wins easy to get some 

     

    the harder you work, the

    luckier you get 

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    Day wins easy to get some 

     

    the harder you work, the

    luckier you get 

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2020 - 7:11 PM ET #19

    Sorry brother I dind see it. Next time pm me and Id love to discuss. Glad u hit today!

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    Sorry brother I dind see it. Next time pm me and Id love to discuss. Glad u hit today!

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