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    Seattle at Arizona (10/17/2013)

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    NEVERgo4less
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 11:56 AM ET #26

    The one rule that I stick with is to never back a team that got swept in the previous meeting.  Especially when it was a 58-0 sweep.  Doesn't matter if they are a different team, they are still the underdog.  I'm seeing Hawks has better offense and better defense and that's good enough for me.  Cards will not be able to run the ball so Hawks' secondary is all needed.  But to be safe, I will do a 6pt tease with Falcons.  Falcons will destroy the Bucs this week.  Playing the birds this week

    6pt tease
    Hawks ML
    Falcons -1

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    The one rule that I stick with is to never back a team that got swept in the previous meeting.  Especially when it was a 58-0 sweep.  Doesn't matter if they are a different team, they are still the underdog.  I'm seeing Hawks has better offense and better defense and that's good enough for me.  Cards will not be able to run the ball so Hawks' secondary is all needed.  But to be safe, I will do a 6pt tease with Falcons.  Falcons will destroy the Bucs this week.  Playing the birds this week

    6pt tease
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    Falcons -1

     
    XSixburghX
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 12:06 PM ET #27

    Seattle hasn't done anything to prove they can cover a spread like this on the road, and on a short week. Russell Wilson has done nothing to wow me all year with the exception of the Jacksonville game, but c'mon that was Jacksonville. 

    Arizona is a good scrappy defense. They won both games SU as underdogs. Carson Palmer may not be an elite QB anymore, but he's still better than the Skelton/Kolb combo that beat Seattle last year. 

    The books want you to remember the 58-0 game, but you should expect something more like the 20-16 game. 

    Cardinals +6.5
    Under 41
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    Seattle hasn't done anything to prove they can cover a spread like this on the road, and on a short week. Russell Wilson has done nothing to wow me all year with the exception of the Jacksonville game, but c'mon that was Jacksonville. 

    Arizona is a good scrappy defense. They won both games SU as underdogs. Carson Palmer may not be an elite QB anymore, but he's still better than the Skelton/Kolb combo that beat Seattle last year. 

    The books want you to remember the 58-0 game, but you should expect something more like the 20-16 game. 

    Cardinals +6.5
    Under 41
     
    vanhawk
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 12:17 PM ET #28

    The last time these teams played the score was 58-0 for the Seahawks. Sure that was at home -- but 90% the same players playing in that game. I don't care if they are playing this game on the moon I wouldn't bet against the Seahawks here.
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    The last time these teams played the score was 58-0 for the Seahawks. Sure that was at home -- but 90% the same players playing in that game. I don't care if they are playing this game on the moon I wouldn't bet against the Seahawks here.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 12:44 PM ET #29

    God I love fading this site..especially morons like LSDurbano..keep up your wonderful fade material, and go fu.ck your cat, probably the only pus.sy u get...Arizona/under is the play tonite
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    God I love fading this site..especially morons like LSDurbano..keep up your wonderful fade material, and go fu.ck your cat, probably the only pus.sy u get...Arizona/under is the play tonite
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 12:57 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:

    The last time these teams played the score was 58-0 for the Seahawks. Sure that was at home -- but 90% the same players playing in that game. I don't care if they are playing this game on the moon I wouldn't bet against the Seahawks here.

    Same type of arguments you had for the Colts game...I know you want your team to win but come on man 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:

    The last time these teams played the score was 58-0 for the Seahawks. Sure that was at home -- but 90% the same players playing in that game. I don't care if they are playing this game on the moon I wouldn't bet against the Seahawks here.

    Same type of arguments you had for the Colts game...I know you want your team to win but come on man 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 1:03 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:

    The last time these teams played the score was 58-0 for the Seahawks. Sure that was at home -- but 90% the same players playing in that game. I don't care if they are playing this game on the moon I wouldn't bet against the Seahawks here.

    And by the way...They don't need to play on the moon they are playing in Arizona where the Cardinals beat them last year before getting killed later in the year in Seattle, so I'm not getting your logic...

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth! HOMERS NEED NOT APPLY

    AZ +6  H"VUEEEEEEE"GEEEEE 

    All aboard the W8...W8 what? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:

    The last time these teams played the score was 58-0 for the Seahawks. Sure that was at home -- but 90% the same players playing in that game. I don't care if they are playing this game on the moon I wouldn't bet against the Seahawks here.

    And by the way...They don't need to play on the moon they are playing in Arizona where the Cardinals beat them last year before getting killed later in the year in Seattle, so I'm not getting your logic...

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth! HOMERS NEED NOT APPLY

    AZ +6  H"VUEEEEEEE"GEEEEE 

    All aboard the W8...W8 what? 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 1:26 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly_Slater:




     

    sup bro

    I'm in on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly_Slater:




     

    sup bro

    I'm in on this one.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 1:38 PM ET #33

    I'm with my time to shine I see another boring game like Monday night lets go zona
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    I'm with my time to shine I see another boring game like Monday night lets go zona
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 2:16 PM ET #34

    It's should be a low scoring game.  Both team take their time to snap the ball.  AZ take up 7 minutes off the clock to kick a FG or punt.  Lynch will get shut down and so will Russell.    
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    It's should be a low scoring game.  Both team take their time to snap the ball.  AZ take up 7 minutes off the clock to kick a FG or punt.  Lynch will get shut down and so will Russell.    
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 2:19 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:

    Where are all the Hawks fans this week? All of the ones that thought I was out of my mind that my play of the year was Colts vs them. Seahawks are not the same on the road... I'd like to see this line reach 7 tomorrow and will take it if it gets there. 

    well I will lay you 7 and we can make a nice wager????? come on man the Hawks had won all 8 (pre and reg) games ATS this yr. if ya like money, lime green all day
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:

    Where are all the Hawks fans this week? All of the ones that thought I was out of my mind that my play of the year was Colts vs them. Seahawks are not the same on the road... I'd like to see this line reach 7 tomorrow and will take it if it gets there. 

    well I will lay you 7 and we can make a nice wager????? come on man the Hawks had won all 8 (pre and reg) games ATS this yr. if ya like money, lime green all day
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 2:21 PM ET #36

    Assassinator I def see a low scoring running out the clock type game just like Monday night rivers taking 14 mins off the clock in 2nd quarter was nuts I don't think I've ever seen that lol. Zona under my play
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    Assassinator I def see a low scoring running out the clock type game just like Monday night rivers taking 14 mins off the clock in 2nd quarter was nuts I don't think I've ever seen that lol. Zona under my play
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 2:23 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by XSixburghX:

    Seattle hasn't done anything to prove they can cover a spread like this on the road, and on a short week. Russell Wilson has done nothing to wow me all year with the exception of the Jacksonville game, but c'mon that was Jacksonville. 

    Arizona is a good scrappy defense. They won both games SU as underdogs. Carson Palmer may not be an elite QB anymore, but he's still better than the Skelton/Kolb combo that beat Seattle last year. 

    The books want you to remember the 58-0 game, but you should expect something more like the 20-16 game. 

    Cardinals +6.5
    Under 41

    Hahahahah really? havent done anything to prove? dude incl. pre season we had 8 straight games ATS covered. and I am pretty sure all those games were not played at home, just guessing. the 6.5 is scary, but its the friggen hawks man hahaha
    Sea -13.5 if thats what it was.  SEA 28 AZ 10
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSixburghX:

    Seattle hasn't done anything to prove they can cover a spread like this on the road, and on a short week. Russell Wilson has done nothing to wow me all year with the exception of the Jacksonville game, but c'mon that was Jacksonville. 

    Arizona is a good scrappy defense. They won both games SU as underdogs. Carson Palmer may not be an elite QB anymore, but he's still better than the Skelton/Kolb combo that beat Seattle last year. 

    The books want you to remember the 58-0 game, but you should expect something more like the 20-16 game. 

    Cardinals +6.5
    Under 41

    Hahahahah really? havent done anything to prove? dude incl. pre season we had 8 straight games ATS covered. and I am pretty sure all those games were not played at home, just guessing. the 6.5 is scary, but its the friggen hawks man hahaha
    Sea -13.5 if thats what it was.  SEA 28 AZ 10
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 2:26 PM ET #38

    [Quote: Originally Posted by DJNY]

    And by the way...They don't need to play on the moon they are playing in Arizona where the Cardinals beat them last year before getting killed later in the year in Seattle, so I'm not getting your logic...

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth! HOMERS NEED NOT APPLY

    AZ +6  H"VUEEEEEEE"GEEEEE 

    All aboard the W8...W8 what? 
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    Ha really thats what you got? that was dangerruss's second game and pete carroll gave him a 3 play, playbook. when he took the reigns i think it was something like 58-0, yeah that was it. bye bye
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by DJNY]

    And by the way...They don't need to play on the moon they are playing in Arizona where the Cardinals beat them last year before getting killed later in the year in Seattle, so I'm not getting your logic...

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth! HOMERS NEED NOT APPLY

    AZ +6  H"VUEEEEEEE"GEEEEE 

    All aboard the W8...W8 what? 
    [/Quote
    Ha really thats what you got? that was dangerruss's second game and pete carroll gave him a 3 play, playbook. when he took the reigns i think it was something like 58-0, yeah that was it. bye bye
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 2:34 PM ET #39

    Can you folks please bet this line up to +7 so I can lock in AZ? 
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    Can you folks please bet this line up to +7 so I can lock in AZ? 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 3:02 PM ET #40

     Bettin' The Bruised
    " There's no way a guy ( Team) can practice after a game like that"
                        Coach Arians.

    Fresh off  close but no cigar loss to Frisco , Road weary Cards in real tuff spot having played  4 out of 6 on road vs quality opponents n' facing formidable SHawks  D who will pierce thru Zona's soft white underbelly O line n'  K O immobile  Palmer.
    Stanton, Red Skelton, Lindley, Jake the Snake to the rescue ?

    Cards  63 % Pass attack , Cards can't run,Palmer can't run
    Can throw INTS ( 9 of  11 INTS in last 4 games)
    vs
    SHawks  D @ NFL Top 2 / INTS
    Cards to score + 10 pts ? ? ?
    Cards D can NOT cover Offense's inability + mistakes
    31 SackMeister Calais  questionable with bruised Spine
    OUCH !
    WR Fitzy = Pulled Hammy

    Forget about last year's 58 Pts .SHawks are Nowhere near last year's High level scores.
    It's ALL run first ,pass later via 2 headed  Russellynch Dragon attack.
    SHawks will grind n' chew clock down forcing Zona into mistakes.

    SHawks 5 - 1 ATS past 6 on Road
    Cards 0 - 7 SU Divisional games
    OVER hits 7 out of 9 SHawks Road games 
    ZZZZZ
    Cards improved D - Red Zone issues on Both sides n' who knows...
    SHawks 3 hr plane ride...lol
    Keeps This Baby
    UNDER
    Com  lil' $ide  SHAWKS dish @ - 6 
    SEATTLE 19 ARIZONA 9
    BOLA


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     Bettin' The Bruised
    " There's no way a guy ( Team) can practice after a game like that"
                        Coach Arians.

    Fresh off  close but no cigar loss to Frisco , Road weary Cards in real tuff spot having played  4 out of 6 on road vs quality opponents n' facing formidable SHawks  D who will pierce thru Zona's soft white underbelly O line n'  K O immobile  Palmer.
    Stanton, Red Skelton, Lindley, Jake the Snake to the rescue ?

    Cards  63 % Pass attack , Cards can't run,Palmer can't run
    Can throw INTS ( 9 of  11 INTS in last 4 games)
    vs
    SHawks  D @ NFL Top 2 / INTS
    Cards to score + 10 pts ? ? ?
    Cards D can NOT cover Offense's inability + mistakes
    31 SackMeister Calais  questionable with bruised Spine
    OUCH !
    WR Fitzy = Pulled Hammy

    Forget about last year's 58 Pts .SHawks are Nowhere near last year's High level scores.
    It's ALL run first ,pass later via 2 headed  Russellynch Dragon attack.
    SHawks will grind n' chew clock down forcing Zona into mistakes.

    SHawks 5 - 1 ATS past 6 on Road
    Cards 0 - 7 SU Divisional games
    OVER hits 7 out of 9 SHawks Road games 
    ZZZZZ
    Cards improved D - Red Zone issues on Both sides n' who knows...
    SHawks 3 hr plane ride...lol
    Keeps This Baby
    UNDER
    Com  lil' $ide  SHAWKS dish @ - 6 
    SEATTLE 19 ARIZONA 9
    BOLA


     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 3:50 PM ET #41

    Hawks!!
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    Hawks!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 3:51 PM ET #42

    I will gladly take arizona +6.5....short week...home team 4-0 SU and ATS in the last 4 games played in this series ..if you think for any reason the cards forgot what happened last time they saw russel wilson you've been drinking...face the facts....the new car smell has worn off..Teams now have game tape to watch and can prepare for Russell Wilson....Quietly Arizona boasts one of the better defenses in the league...This game will be decided by 3 points....Dogs have bitten pretty hard on Thursday nights.....I'm riding the A-Train...toot toot
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    I will gladly take arizona +6.5....short week...home team 4-0 SU and ATS in the last 4 games played in this series ..if you think for any reason the cards forgot what happened last time they saw russel wilson you've been drinking...face the facts....the new car smell has worn off..Teams now have game tape to watch and can prepare for Russell Wilson....Quietly Arizona boasts one of the better defenses in the league...This game will be decided by 3 points....Dogs have bitten pretty hard on Thursday nights.....I'm riding the A-Train...toot toot
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 4:22 PM ET #43

    yeah and you dont think they know that there doing new plays every tome they play seahawks will win by 2 TDs to a struggling cardinals defense and offense
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    yeah and you dont think they know that there doing new plays every tome they play seahawks will win by 2 TDs to a struggling cardinals defense and offense
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 4:25 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by russe11wilson3:


    well I will lay you 7 and we can make a nice wager????? come on man the Hawks had won all 8 (pre and reg) games ATS this yr. if ya like money, lime green all day

    That's the past, if anything the more games they covered in a row previously more likely they are to lose ATS in future games. Trust me, I've made plenty betting the Hawks, but that doesn't mean I'm going to bet them blindly every week as that's not a winning formula. Watch the rest of the year, they will likely not win more than 50% ATS rest of the year
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    Quote Originally Posted by russe11wilson3:


    well I will lay you 7 and we can make a nice wager????? come on man the Hawks had won all 8 (pre and reg) games ATS this yr. if ya like money, lime green all day

    That's the past, if anything the more games they covered in a row previously more likely they are to lose ATS in future games. Trust me, I've made plenty betting the Hawks, but that doesn't mean I'm going to bet them blindly every week as that's not a winning formula. Watch the rest of the year, they will likely not win more than 50% ATS rest of the year
     
    Ramair
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 4:49 PM ET #45

    Seattle - 24                                   Arizona - 17

    Seattle in a just do enough game, win one late game, Thursdays night games are horrible.

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    Seattle - 24                                   Arizona - 17

    Seattle in a just do enough game, win one late game, Thursdays night games are horrible.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 4:57 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by russe11wilson3:


    Hahahahah really? havent done anything to prove? dude incl. pre season we had 8 straight games ATS covered. and I am pretty sure all those games were not played at home, just guessing. the 6.5 is scary, but its the friggen hawks man hahaha
    Sea -13.5 if thats what it was.  SEA 28 AZ 10

    So they covered at Indy ? I must've missed that one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by russe11wilson3:


    Hahahahah really? havent done anything to prove? dude incl. pre season we had 8 straight games ATS covered. and I am pretty sure all those games were not played at home, just guessing. the 6.5 is scary, but its the friggen hawks man hahaha
    Sea -13.5 if thats what it was.  SEA 28 AZ 10

    So they covered at Indy ? I must've missed that one...

     
    markosimz
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 5:02 PM ET #47

    Betting on Carson Palmer is just as good as burning money

    I will tease Seahawks to -1.

    Roll Tide
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    Betting on Carson Palmer is just as good as burning money

    I will tease Seahawks to -1.

    Roll Tide
     
    cowboys95
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 5:12 PM ET #48

    Russell Wilson is going to light these girl up.

    SEA 37
    girl- 14
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    Russell Wilson is going to light these girl up.

    SEA 37
    girl- 14
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 5:22 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by easypics:

     Bettin' The Bruised
    " There's no way a guy ( Team) can practice after a game like that"
                        Coach Arians.

    Fresh off  close but no cigar loss to Frisco , Road weary Cards in real tuff spot having played  4 out of 6 on road vs quality opponents n' facing formidable SHawks  D who will pierce thru Zona's soft white underbelly O line n'  K O immobile  Palmer.
    Stanton, Red Skelton, Lindley, Jake the Snake to the rescue ?

    Cards  63 % Pass attack , Cards can't run,Palmer can't run
    Can throw INTS ( 9 of  11 INTS in last 4 games)
    vs
    SHawks  D @ NFL Top 2 / INTS
    Cards to score + 10 pts ? ? ?
    Cards D can NOT cover Offense's inability + mistakes
    31 SackMeister Calais  questionable with bruised Spine
    OUCH !
    WR Fitzy = Pulled Hammy

    Forget about last year's 58 Pts .SHawks are Nowhere near last year's High level scores.
    It's ALL run first ,pass later via 2 headed  Russellynch Dragon attack.
    SHawks will grind n' chew clock down forcing Zona into mistakes.

    SHawks 5 - 1 ATS past 6 on Road
    Cards 0 - 7 SU Divisional games
    OVER hits 7 out of 9 SHawks Road games 
    ZZZZZ
    Cards improved D - Red Zone issues on Both sides n' who knows...
    SHawks 3 hr plane ride...lol
    Keeps This Baby
    UNDER
    Com  lil' $ide  SHAWKS dish @ - 6 
    SEATTLE 19 ARIZONA 9
    BOLA




    Not bad logic bro . But these two teams are F*ckd up on defense . Not sure how to feel about this game , could definitely go over by the 3rd qtr..
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    Quote Originally Posted by easypics:

     Bettin' The Bruised
    " There's no way a guy ( Team) can practice after a game like that"
                        Coach Arians.

    Fresh off  close but no cigar loss to Frisco , Road weary Cards in real tuff spot having played  4 out of 6 on road vs quality opponents n' facing formidable SHawks  D who will pierce thru Zona's soft white underbelly O line n'  K O immobile  Palmer.
    Stanton, Red Skelton, Lindley, Jake the Snake to the rescue ?

    Cards  63 % Pass attack , Cards can't run,Palmer can't run
    Can throw INTS ( 9 of  11 INTS in last 4 games)
    vs
    SHawks  D @ NFL Top 2 / INTS
    Cards to score + 10 pts ? ? ?
    Cards D can NOT cover Offense's inability + mistakes
    31 SackMeister Calais  questionable with bruised Spine
    OUCH !
    WR Fitzy = Pulled Hammy

    Forget about last year's 58 Pts .SHawks are Nowhere near last year's High level scores.
    It's ALL run first ,pass later via 2 headed  Russellynch Dragon attack.
    SHawks will grind n' chew clock down forcing Zona into mistakes.

    SHawks 5 - 1 ATS past 6 on Road
    Cards 0 - 7 SU Divisional games
    OVER hits 7 out of 9 SHawks Road games 
    ZZZZZ
    Cards improved D - Red Zone issues on Both sides n' who knows...
    SHawks 3 hr plane ride...lol
    Keeps This Baby
    UNDER
    Com  lil' $ide  SHAWKS dish @ - 6 
    SEATTLE 19 ARIZONA 9
    BOLA




    Not bad logic bro . But these two teams are F*ckd up on defense . Not sure how to feel about this game , could definitely go over by the 3rd qtr..
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 5:43 PM ET #50

    I'll gladly take +7 for the home team underdog.  

    Yes, the Seahwaks are a great team but they just don't play nearly as well on the road.  In addition, the Cardinals defense is extremely underrated.  Don't overanalyze things guys, take the points.  

    Prediction:  Seahwaks 23 - Cardinals 20
    Good luck to all.

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    I'll gladly take +7 for the home team underdog.  

    Yes, the Seahwaks are a great team but they just don't play nearly as well on the road.  In addition, the Cardinals defense is extremely underrated.  Don't overanalyze things guys, take the points.  

    Prediction:  Seahwaks 23 - Cardinals 20
    Good luck to all.

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