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    wonbadappl
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 12:55 PM ET #151

    I'm a Giant fan. I bet AZ and Philly on the ML in a 2 team parlay on Sunday and cleaned up.
     
    NOW....
     
    Someone please tell me when was the last time a team beat a higher seed and got to host the next game as a home DOG!!!?
     
    This is SCREAMING "ARIZONA". All you bettors out there. Take a look at the MLs for these games. An AZ & Balt. 2 team parlay on the ML gets you 7 to 1. Are you kidding? That's where the discount is. if you're looking for the best bet this weekend it's AZ and Balt on the ML. And if AZ wins the first game hedge yourself with a bet on Pitt. FREE MONEY.
     
     
    P.S. Last years Superbowl was also screaming Giants and under. That 2 team parlay got 8 to 1. 17-14 Gmen. 'Nuff said.
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    I'm a Giant fan. I bet AZ and Philly on the ML in a 2 team parlay on Sunday and cleaned up.
     
    NOW....
     
    Someone please tell me when was the last time a team beat a higher seed and got to host the next game as a home DOG!!!?
     
    This is SCREAMING "ARIZONA". All you bettors out there. Take a look at the MLs for these games. An AZ & Balt. 2 team parlay on the ML gets you 7 to 1. Are you kidding? That's where the discount is. if you're looking for the best bet this weekend it's AZ and Balt on the ML. And if AZ wins the first game hedge yourself with a bet on Pitt. FREE MONEY.
     
     
    P.S. Last years Superbowl was also screaming Giants and under. That 2 team parlay got 8 to 1. 17-14 Gmen. 'Nuff said.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 12:56 PM ET #152

    this year....the superbowl game is....

     

    baltimore vs philadelphia

    and....i'm a steelers fan!!!, so.....this is baltimores year...

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    this year....the superbowl game is....

     

    baltimore vs philadelphia

    and....i'm a steelers fan!!!, so.....this is baltimores year...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 1:40 PM ET #153

    no one is going to stop mcnab hes gotten too close too many times and his determination is going to carry the eagles, and can people stop saying take the birds considering theyre both birds...??? just a suggestion
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    no one is going to stop mcnab hes gotten too close too many times and his determination is going to carry the eagles, and can people stop saying take the birds considering theyre both birds...??? just a suggestion
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 3:57 PM ET #154

    The bottom line is Zona is a soft team.......thier average score is 27-27 throughout the year.......maybe that points to a cover.......but against another hot 6th seed........like the Giants last year and the Steelers a year or so before that........I'll be taking the Eagles.  GL to everyone.......these games are going to be fun to watch.
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    The bottom line is Zona is a soft team.......thier average score is 27-27 throughout the year.......maybe that points to a cover.......but against another hot 6th seed........like the Giants last year and the Steelers a year or so before that........I'll be taking the Eagles.  GL to everyone.......these games are going to be fun to watch.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 5:19 PM ET #155

    EAGLES 23-17
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    EAGLES 23-17
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 7:22 PM ET #156

    McNabb will fold under the pressure!! Take the Cards!!
     
    Zona 34
     
    Philly 14
     
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    McNabb will fold under the pressure!! Take the Cards!!
     
    Zona 34
     
    Philly 14
     
     
    crazycarlitos
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 7:37 PM ET #157

    Quote Originally Posted by krause:

    McNabb will fold under the pressure!! Take the Cards!!
     
    Zona 34
     
    Philly 14
     


    Mr Chunky won't choke... until the Superbowl game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krause:

    McNabb will fold under the pressure!! Take the Cards!!
     
    Zona 34
     
    Philly 14
     


    Mr Chunky won't choke... until the Superbowl game.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 7:47 PM ET #158

    Andy Reid looks like he hasn't slept in 6 weeks....Jimmy Johnson will scheme to make Kurt Warner a nervous wreck, and force AZ to run the ball.  Not happening..... 

    Dont over think it, this one is easy....Eagles by 6 or more.

     

    The impossible only takes longer….
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    Andy Reid looks like he hasn't slept in 6 weeks....Jimmy Johnson will scheme to make Kurt Warner a nervous wreck, and force AZ to run the ball.  Not happening..... 

    Dont over think it, this one is easy....Eagles by 6 or more.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 9:16 PM ET #159

    i am a huge eagles fan here.  i am not going to tell u it will be a blowout.  it wont.  it will be a good game and the eagles will win and cover i believe.  i just want to throw somethings out there for all to consider.
     
    last time the ealges played the cardinals on thanksgiving the cardinals were hot as they are now.  kurt warner was coming off 5 consecutive 300 yard passing games.  the "they were already not playing hard" is rediculous.  no one was rested.  no one did not play.  i was at the game and they were playing.
     
    the "eveyrone is on philly so the cards will win" is not true.  alot of experts are predicting arizona including brandon lang.  and even if u dont like lang alot of people buy his picks and follow him, such as the public.  so plenty of the public will be betting each way.  many will bet agaisnt the birds due to their inconsistency which is legit and the only reason i can see to bet agaisnt them.
     
    the guy who says "mcnabb doesnt show up for big games".  that guy has been saying that since the cowboys game and is still chasing money for what will be his fourth game.  not a smart one to follow when every game is a big game.  he may not have won  the biggest game yet but he has won plenty of big ones.
     
    eagles-steelers superbowl(the ravens o wont be able to score much to stay with pitt)
     
    best bet of weekend is pitt minus the points.  then i would say eagles.
     
    just throwing those things out there as things to think about before u make ur wagers. 
     
    good luck.
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    i am a huge eagles fan here.  i am not going to tell u it will be a blowout.  it wont.  it will be a good game and the eagles will win and cover i believe.  i just want to throw somethings out there for all to consider.
     
    last time the ealges played the cardinals on thanksgiving the cardinals were hot as they are now.  kurt warner was coming off 5 consecutive 300 yard passing games.  the "they were already not playing hard" is rediculous.  no one was rested.  no one did not play.  i was at the game and they were playing.
     
    the "eveyrone is on philly so the cards will win" is not true.  alot of experts are predicting arizona including brandon lang.  and even if u dont like lang alot of people buy his picks and follow him, such as the public.  so plenty of the public will be betting each way.  many will bet agaisnt the birds due to their inconsistency which is legit and the only reason i can see to bet agaisnt them.
     
    the guy who says "mcnabb doesnt show up for big games".  that guy has been saying that since the cowboys game and is still chasing money for what will be his fourth game.  not a smart one to follow when every game is a big game.  he may not have won  the biggest game yet but he has won plenty of big ones.
     
    eagles-steelers superbowl(the ravens o wont be able to score much to stay with pitt)
     
    best bet of weekend is pitt minus the points.  then i would say eagles.
     
    just throwing those things out there as things to think about before u make ur wagers. 
     
    good luck.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 10:06 PM ET #160

    The Eagles, who were left for dead after a 10-3 loss to the Redskins in week 16, have certainly come together at the right time. I mentioned last week in picking them that they reminded me somewhat of the 2007-08 Giants - a team that peaked at the right time and became a force in the playoffs. Last week's road win over the top seed in the NFC only reinforces that feeling. Donovan McNabb, benched at mid-season, has come back with the old passion and form. Over the past seven games, he has thrown for 1,643 yards, 11 touchdowns and just four interceptions. With Brian Westbrook struggling, McNabb has taken over. From week three to week twelve, McNabb completed just two games with a QB rating of 90 or better. Over the last seven weeks, he has put up a 92.5+ rating in five games. That isn't all the Eagles are bringing to the table however over the past several weeks. While the Ravens and Steelers defenses are getting all the press, the Eagles defense is playing better than anyone's lately! They have not allowed any opponent to score more than 14 points in the last six weeks. Neither Baltimore nor Pittsburgh can boast those kind of numbers. Arizona's stats look good - good enough to make you wonder if they can win this game, especially playing at home. They won their division. Their offense put up 29+ points nine times during the regular season. But, is this team really any good? Here are some numbers that might make you wonder. The Cardianls are a product of a horrible division which provided a gift of six wins (compare that to the Eagle's division of the NFC East). As a result, ten weeks into the season Arizona had things already locked up. This is a division in which the other three teams finished a collective 13-35 on the season, and consequently the Cards went 6-0 inside their pathetic division. The bad news for the Cards backers this week comes from doing a little math. Outside of their division games, this team was 3-7! I think it is safe to say if Zona was in the NFC East like the Eagles, they wouldn't be here. In fact, Zona was 1-3 on the season vs. the NFC East, getting outscored by an average of 10 ppg, including a 28-point thrashing by this Eagles team on Thanksgiving Night. The NFC East QB's would be enshrined in the Hall of Fame if they could play against the Cardinals each week.  In the four games against the Cardinals defense, NFC East QBs combined to go 99-141 (70%) for 1,018 yards, with 12 TDs and no INTs. The running games of these four NFC opponents put up 120.3 yards a game as well. But the Cards are team of destiny that is also peaking at the right time, right? Heck they weren't given a great chance at home vs. Atlanta but won. They were given no chance last week in Carolina but won outright easily as a 10 point dog. They have rediscoverd the run, and Warner is hot... Not so fast. They certainly played well in the Wild Card game. Credit given. However, remember that they beat an Atlanta team, with a rookie QB, that was .500 on the road this year. But, what about last week? Throw it out! The Cards caught a Jake Delhomme meltdown for the ages, as he personally was responsible for six turnovers. With that kind of performance by Delhomme, how could Arizona not win that game? The stuffed suits talk about shutting down Carolina's vaunted running game, but the Panthers simply got down big early and had to pass most of the game. And, Carolina's defense didn't show up either. They inexplicably failed to cover Larry Fitzgerald - all game. The Eagles won't do that. In fact, compared to the Eagles' defense, Atlanta and Carolina are going to look like High-School opponents. Warner, Edge, Fitz and Boldin are in for a rude awakening in my opinion. This is the best defense they have faced in six weeks - by far. The team they faced six weeks ago? Philly. Arizona in fact hasn't played a single game against a great defense all year (unless you count the Eagles in week 13 and maybe the Giants in week 12). Carolina simply seemed overconfident and lazy last week and they didn't show up. After that surprise, and what Fitzgerald was able to do, you can bet Philadelphia won't be caught off guard. I think the Eagles defense, which is playing better than anyone's right now, puts a lot of pressure on Warner and stops the running game cold. You give Warner time, and he can pick you apart. You put him on his back with creative blitzes (see Jim Johnson defense) and physical corner play, and this vaunted offense could really struggle. No one is scoring on this Eagles defense right now, and that makes the UNDER attractive here as well. Simply put, I think the Eagles are not only the better team here, but the MUCH better team. We have a top 3 defense facing a below-average, honestly, weak defense. If not for a 9-3 turnover advantage in their first two playoff games, the Cards wouldn't be here. Philly is playing great (especially on defense) and the Philly players have more playoff experince. Their coach is playoff-tested while Arizona's is brand new to this. Take the Eagles and the UNDER here.

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    The Eagles, who were left for dead after a 10-3 loss to the Redskins in week 16, have certainly come together at the right time. I mentioned last week in picking them that they reminded me somewhat of the 2007-08 Giants - a team that peaked at the right time and became a force in the playoffs. Last week's road win over the top seed in the NFC only reinforces that feeling. Donovan McNabb, benched at mid-season, has come back with the old passion and form. Over the past seven games, he has thrown for 1,643 yards, 11 touchdowns and just four interceptions. With Brian Westbrook struggling, McNabb has taken over. From week three to week twelve, McNabb completed just two games with a QB rating of 90 or better. Over the last seven weeks, he has put up a 92.5+ rating in five games. That isn't all the Eagles are bringing to the table however over the past several weeks. While the Ravens and Steelers defenses are getting all the press, the Eagles defense is playing better than anyone's lately! They have not allowed any opponent to score more than 14 points in the last six weeks. Neither Baltimore nor Pittsburgh can boast those kind of numbers. Arizona's stats look good - good enough to make you wonder if they can win this game, especially playing at home. They won their division. Their offense put up 29+ points nine times during the regular season. But, is this team really any good? Here are some numbers that might make you wonder. The Cardianls are a product of a horrible division which provided a gift of six wins (compare that to the Eagle's division of the NFC East). As a result, ten weeks into the season Arizona had things already locked up. This is a division in which the other three teams finished a collective 13-35 on the season, and consequently the Cards went 6-0 inside their pathetic division. The bad news for the Cards backers this week comes from doing a little math. Outside of their division games, this team was 3-7! I think it is safe to say if Zona was in the NFC East like the Eagles, they wouldn't be here. In fact, Zona was 1-3 on the season vs. the NFC East, getting outscored by an average of 10 ppg, including a 28-point thrashing by this Eagles team on Thanksgiving Night. The NFC East QB's would be enshrined in the Hall of Fame if they could play against the Cardinals each week.  In the four games against the Cardinals defense, NFC East QBs combined to go 99-141 (70%) for 1,018 yards, with 12 TDs and no INTs. The running games of these four NFC opponents put up 120.3 yards a game as well. But the Cards are team of destiny that is also peaking at the right time, right? Heck they weren't given a great chance at home vs. Atlanta but won. They were given no chance last week in Carolina but won outright easily as a 10 point dog. They have rediscoverd the run, and Warner is hot... Not so fast. They certainly played well in the Wild Card game. Credit given. However, remember that they beat an Atlanta team, with a rookie QB, that was .500 on the road this year. But, what about last week? Throw it out! The Cards caught a Jake Delhomme meltdown for the ages, as he personally was responsible for six turnovers. With that kind of performance by Delhomme, how could Arizona not win that game? The stuffed suits talk about shutting down Carolina's vaunted running game, but the Panthers simply got down big early and had to pass most of the game. And, Carolina's defense didn't show up either. They inexplicably failed to cover Larry Fitzgerald - all game. The Eagles won't do that. In fact, compared to the Eagles' defense, Atlanta and Carolina are going to look like High-School opponents. Warner, Edge, Fitz and Boldin are in for a rude awakening in my opinion. This is the best defense they have faced in six weeks - by far. The team they faced six weeks ago? Philly. Arizona in fact hasn't played a single game against a great defense all year (unless you count the Eagles in week 13 and maybe the Giants in week 12). Carolina simply seemed overconfident and lazy last week and they didn't show up. After that surprise, and what Fitzgerald was able to do, you can bet Philadelphia won't be caught off guard. I think the Eagles defense, which is playing better than anyone's right now, puts a lot of pressure on Warner and stops the running game cold. You give Warner time, and he can pick you apart. You put him on his back with creative blitzes (see Jim Johnson defense) and physical corner play, and this vaunted offense could really struggle. No one is scoring on this Eagles defense right now, and that makes the UNDER attractive here as well. Simply put, I think the Eagles are not only the better team here, but the MUCH better team. We have a top 3 defense facing a below-average, honestly, weak defense. If not for a 9-3 turnover advantage in their first two playoff games, the Cards wouldn't be here. Philly is playing great (especially on defense) and the Philly players have more playoff experince. Their coach is playoff-tested while Arizona's is brand new to this. Take the Eagles and the UNDER here.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 10:41 PM ET #161

    hey guys
    pawn your girlfriend or your wife to make a big bet , good luck to you all , enjoy the championship
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    hey guys
    pawn your girlfriend or your wife to make a big bet , good luck to you all , enjoy the championship
    Becool always cool
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 12:09 AM ET #162

    Riteside and Irish are right. Going with Philly, Und. Too much public cloudiness on ariz. I think we take this! the public doesnt realize that this Philly team was done a few weeks ago and bam just like that bringin it. ariz has played chumps. philly brought the pain twice on the road. their so called huge injury list is an illusion to suck in the crowd on zona. Westbrook has played his enitire career as hurt and doubtful. Jesus loved florida. I think he abandons Warner. Peace and gl.
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    Riteside and Irish are right. Going with Philly, Und. Too much public cloudiness on ariz. I think we take this! the public doesnt realize that this Philly team was done a few weeks ago and bam just like that bringin it. ariz has played chumps. philly brought the pain twice on the road. their so called huge injury list is an illusion to suck in the crowd on zona. Westbrook has played his enitire career as hurt and doubtful. Jesus loved florida. I think he abandons Warner. Peace and gl.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 12:43 AM ET #163

    Zona's defense show the big big money now. Hey ! Guy. what do you waiting for ? Take it to the Bank !!

     

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    Zona's defense show the big big money now. Hey ! Guy. what do you waiting for ? Take it to the Bank !!

     

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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 12:43 AM ET #164

    Zona's defense show the big big money now. Hey ! Guy. what do you waiting for ? Take it to the Bank !!

     

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    Zona's defense show the big big money now. Hey ! Guy. what do you waiting for ? Take it to the Bank !!

     

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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 12:55 AM ET #165

    High Fly !! Go Zona GO !

    Zona and the Under

     

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    High Fly !! Go Zona GO !

    Zona and the Under

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 12:55 AM ET #166

    High Fly !! Go Zona GO !

    Zona and the Under

     

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    High Fly !! Go Zona GO !

    Zona and the Under

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 1:40 AM ET #167

    Interception ! Interception ! Interception !

    Zona Win !

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    Interception ! Interception ! Interception !

    Zona Win !

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 1:40 AM ET #168

    Interception ! Interception ! Interception !

    Zona Win !

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    Interception ! Interception ! Interception !

    Zona Win !

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 4:07 AM ET #169

    These Eagles are not the Giants from last season.  About a month ago everyone had written Philly off as 'an afterthought' (including all those whom currently profess their present "greatness").

    Like Philly, the Cards were written off as 'an afterthought'; probably prior to the beginning of this season.
      It is surprising to see so many alleged Cards backers.  In fact, I don't believe even the point takers believe that Arizona will win this game.  Which makes the Cards more like last season's Giants club than any team.

    Come to think of it; how many years running is the away team going to win the NFC, or any Conference Championship?  Fitz is the most potent offensive weapon whom remains in this NFL post-season.  The NFC-West is about to make a whole lotta muthahfuckahs cry.     


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    These Eagles are not the Giants from last season.  About a month ago everyone had written Philly off as 'an afterthought' (including all those whom currently profess their present "greatness").

    Like Philly, the Cards were written off as 'an afterthought'; probably prior to the beginning of this season.
      It is surprising to see so many alleged Cards backers.  In fact, I don't believe even the point takers believe that Arizona will win this game.  Which makes the Cards more like last season's Giants club than any team.

    Come to think of it; how many years running is the away team going to win the NFC, or any Conference Championship?  Fitz is the most potent offensive weapon whom remains in this NFL post-season.  The NFC-West is about to make a whole lotta muthahfuckahs cry.     


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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 4:53 AM ET #170

    Teasing Eagles and Pitt.  Have to this late in the playoffs.
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    Teasing Eagles and Pitt.  Have to this late in the playoffs.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 9:34 AM ET #171

    When the Eagles blitz, who's covering Fitzgerald? 2 team parlay, Cardinals ML and Steelers -6.0.
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    When the Eagles blitz, who's covering Fitzgerald? 2 team parlay, Cardinals ML and Steelers -6.0.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 1:00 PM ET #172

    I don't believe any of that BS that the NFC South was the toughest division in the NFC. That is simply horseshit...Atlanta and Carolina are weak teams, plain and simple. Philly certainly was the tried and tested team between the two of them. Didn't they already beat Pitts this year as well?

    Hmmmm.Good Luck.

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    I don't believe any of that BS that the NFC South was the toughest division in the NFC. That is simply horseshit...Atlanta and Carolina are weak teams, plain and simple. Philly certainly was the tried and tested team between the two of them. Didn't they already beat Pitts this year as well?

    Hmmmm.Good Luck.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 3:58 PM ET #173

    whos covering Fitzgerald, how about Samuel, who has 7 career picks in the postseason?
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    whos covering Fitzgerald, how about Samuel, who has 7 career picks in the postseason?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 4:01 PM ET #174

    Mcnabb has more career pass yds than warner, more TDs and fewer interceptions, but Warner is a better QB? Gimme a fuggin break.
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    Mcnabb has more career pass yds than warner, more TDs and fewer interceptions, but Warner is a better QB? Gimme a fuggin break.
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 5:40 PM ET #175

    Warner has more TD's, pass yards, better pass%, and better QB rating this year over McSoup-Still leaning home team money line...
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    Warner has more TD's, pass yards, better pass%, and better QB rating this year over McSoup-Still leaning home team money line...
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