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forkball

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Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 5:51 PM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

Good points, but I just don't see how you could compare the 49er offensive line and the 49er front 7 with that of Tampa Bay. The 49ers are a much more physical team on both sides of the ball. Everyone talks about Tampa's #1 rush defense, but one of the primary reasons they are giving up so few rushing yards is that their secondary is so bad that teams prefer to air it out on them.

I think one of the main reasons the Saints beat the Falcons in week 10 was because their running game was phenomenal. Ivory playing in only his second week of the year was fresh and it showed when ripped off a 56-yard TD run. Ivory and Ingram combined for 140 yards rushing on 23 carries. I just can't see the Saints duplicating that effort on the road with Sean Weatherspoon back in the lineup. Not to mention, they were just banging around with the 49er front-7 a few days ago. With Weatherspoon in the lineup, the Falcons held Doug Martin to 50 yards on 20 carries.

While I wouldn't call them an elite unit, their defense packs a little more punch with Weatherspoon in the lineup. If Asante and Dunta are playing, or if atleast one of them gives it a go, then I am laying the points with Atlanta.

Good luck

TAMPA PLAYED ATLANTA DOWN TO THE WIRE. THAT WAS A FULL 60 MINUTES OF FOOTBALL NO LET UP. EVERY TEAM CAN BANG IN THE NFL. THE QUESTION IS FOR HOW LONG ON A GIVEN SUNDAY AND BOTH THE SAINTS AND FALCONS PLAYED 60 MINUTES. AND IF YOU KNOW THIS RIVALRY, 3.5 POINTS IS THE PLAY REGARDLESS OF WHO IS GETTING IT.

RedStick

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Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 7:36 PM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by betipickem:

I like the 3.5 an the saints over a shaky secondary, im layin 1100 on saints

Wait one minute my friend, you better rethink that! Saints on the road with that defense, $1100

Falcons -3 @ home (I'm a huge Saints fan FYI)

citysnow

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Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 8:30 PM ET #28

TO remind you this is a div. game.Two exciting teams team up for the second time this year. ATL looking for revenge after a heartbreaking lose on the road in a last min win for the WHO DATS now there are home looking to get even and avenge only lose they have. Its nothing like been home or home cooking and the falcons are hungry for this game an it will show in there favor of this i got you back margin win an spread cover

RollSparty

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Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 8:43 PM ET #29

I like WHO DAT Nation in this spot(+3.5)
Atl-34
NOLEANS-31

NoFrigginWay

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Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 9:16 PM ET #30

WOW !!! HATS OFF,GREAT TO SEE INSIGHTFUL POSTS !!!!

FALCONS AVERAGE 26 PTS AND SAINTS GETTING 3 1/2 ???DOES ANYONE REALLY BELIEVE SAINTS WILL NOT SCORE 23 OR MORE ????YEAH WHODAT IS THE PLAY !!!!

livie

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Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 10:08 PM ET #31

Quote Originally Posted by forkball:

THE SAINTS HAVE WON FOUR IN A ROW OVER THE FALCONS SO YOU CAN THROW THAT GEORGIA DOME RECORD OUT THE WINDOW.

AND 76 POINTS SCORED AGAINST AN OVERRATED FALCON DEFENSE LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THE FALCONS STILL DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. BOTH TEAMS PLAYED PHYSICAL GAMES LAST WEEK SO THROW THAT OUT AS WELL. IN FACT I WOULD ARGUE THE SAINTS OUTSCORED THE 49ERS OFFENSE BUT TWO RARE PICK 6S COST BREES AND THE SAINTS.

SAINTS +3.5

Your caps lock button is on skippy

dooom

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Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 11:58 PM ET #32

Falcons -3.5

Falcons are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games after accumulating more than 350 total yards in their previous game.
Falcons are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 Thursday games.
Saints are 1-3-1 ATS in their last 5 Thursday games.

mlp33181

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 12:25 AM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by farr18:

well im pretty good at these things guys, look at some good hard facts, 1st off the under hits 70% of the time on thursday night excluding thanksgiving games, neither team has had a game go 56 pts either...lean way towards the under....as far as the spread goes, when 2 teams in a division play each other who r playoffs teams usually they split, atl won the 1st one...atl clinches a playoff spot with a win this week, teams who can clinch a playoff spot early tend to drop an egg that game, saints r in a must win situation to keep playoff hopes alive...all this being said i go:

saints 31
falcons 20

Actually the Saints won the 1st game. I think the under is easy here & I also like the Falcons. It's time they earn respect by stopping their 4 game losing streak to the Saints & become the 1st team to clinch their division. Most people feel the Falcons will be 1 & done in the playoffs so they need to prove this year they are different than years past

senunit

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 12:57 AM ET #34

Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

When these teams played only 3 weeks ago in week 10, I was all over the Saints getting a point or two at home. The Saints were coming off an impressive Monday Night win over the Eagles (before the Eagles completely fell apart). In that game, they reminded me a lot of the team that went 13-3 this last year. They ran the ball effectively, their defense created turnovers, and Drew Brees played his typical A-game. The Falcons, on the other hand, had just squeaked out another close one at home against the Cowboys. They looked fatigued in general, and looked like the emotional toll of going 8-0 was starting to wear them down. It seems strange to say this, but it felt like they needed to drop a game just to get back to reality.

Well, the tables have turned once again, and its time to lay the points with the better team, the 10-1 Atlanta Falcons. The Falcons nearly won that matchup in week 10, but the Saints just edged them out and made more big plays. Matt Ryan was excellent, completing over 65% of his passes and throwing for over 400 yards. But the Saints surprised everyone by aggressively using Mark Ingram and a well-rested Chris Ivory. The two combined for 139 yards on 23 carries. In the end, the Falcons nearly completed the game-winning TD pass, but lost a close one 27-31.

The Saints are obviously better than their 5-6 record, but last week, they once again reminded me that there are some major flaws on the defensive side of the ball that will prevent them from being a consistent football team. If the Saints aren't creating turnovers than this team is in big time trouble. I just won't allow myself to forget that this is a team that lost earlier in the year to the 1-9 Chiefs and are 2-3 on the road this year. One road win was an impressive come from behind win against the Bucs (the Bucs almost had the game-tying TD twice). And the other win came against the Raiders without McFadden.

I think the Saints are in trouble this week, and might find themselves out of the playoff hunt with a 5-7 record after Thursday night. The Falcons are coming off a divisional win against the Tampa Bay Bucs, and have their eyes set on the Division Championship and home field advantage through out the playoffs (A win and a Tampa loss would clinch the division). The Falcons know how important home field advantage is as they are 5-0 at home this year and Matt Ryan is sporting a 31-4 career mark at the Georgia Dome. The 49ers are probably the only real threat at 8-2-1, but a win by the Falcons would get them one step closer. Plus it would practically eliminate their division rival Saints.

What stands out most to me in this match is that the Saints are coming off a loss to a very physical 49er team, and will only have 3 days to heal and prepare for this match at the Georgia Dome. These are two teams that are going to be playing with totally different momentum at the kickoff. An Atlanta team coming off an impressive road win, that is trying to clinch the division and home field advantage. And a Saints team that just got dominated by the 49ers, and is trying to get back to .500 for the 2nd time this year. I am sure the Saints are also starting to realize that they shot themselves in the foot too many times this year with some embarrassing losses, and have no one but themselves to blame for their predicament.

Once you also take into account the Falcons track record at home and you have a recipe for another loss for the Saints. I don't think Chris Ivory will be breaking out any 50-yard runs this time around. Not with Sean Weatherspoon back in the lineup. I look for the Falcons to clamp down here and keep the Saints in check just like they did with Tampa last week. I was more than surprised that they were able to hold Doug Martin to 50 yards on 20 carries. Getting Weatherspoon back is huge for this defense.

I am obviously concerned about the status of Asante Samuel and Dunta Robinson given the pass-happy Saints offense, but you would hope these guys are gamers given this is a primetime game. If they play (both listed as questionable), I am going with the Dirty Birds. The Falcons haven't won a game at home by more than one score all year. I look for that to change this week as they avenge their previous loss and deliver a knockout punch to the Saints.

My Prediction:

Saints 17

Falcons 34

good luck

GEEEZZZ all that to say atlantaaa.

I can just simpplify the other wayyy NO +3.5!!!

My Prediction:

Saints 17

Falcons 34

good luck

GEEEZZZ all that to say atlantaaa.

I can just simpplify the other wayyy NO +3.5!!!

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 1:22 AM ET #35

The Saints badly need to rebound from their home field loss if they are going to keep their playoff hopes alive.Their defense remains a big liability, but their offense must always be respected. Atlanta continues to "live on the edge" earning a one point victory last week against Tampa Bay. The Dirty Birds are always tough at home, but then again they haven't been blowing anybody out, and have a nasty habit of just getting by with the win. My database and I are predicting the Saints winning in a mild upset. New Orleans 27- 21 0ver Atlanta.

NEW ORLEANS + 3.5

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 1:47 AM ET #36

Sammy_Ace : Always enjoy your game writeups, but your equating the performance of the Falcons vs. the Bucs, and then belittling the Saints efforts against a Premier team like the 49 ers's, is leaving me somewhat perplexed. Surely you're not trying to compare the Bucs with the 49ers are you? Hell the two teams are "solar systems" apart. Inotherwords, lossing to a vastly superior team is no great shame, and a 1 point victory over a nobody team is no big deal at all. Some teams just have the other guys number. San Fran quickly dispenced with NO if last years playoff, and the Saints have had Atlanta's MO for years! Hard to escape your past!

New Orleans + 3.5

RDTTKA12

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 2:20 AM ET #37

How does a teaser for New Orleans +10 and Under 60 sound??

smeccia

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 2:52 AM ET #38

Sammy ace hit the nail on the head. Its all about Wheatherspoon, and if the corners play, which they will because it is a shoulder and illness, not knees or ankles. The falcons will be able to pull the extra defender out of the box to cover Graham in pass coverage. Weatherspoon stops the run, they limit Grahm with double coverage, sammules blankets colston because he can't run away from him, the d-line rolls over the patch work o-line so brees can't get to his third read, and the saints only put up 21. NO's D is bad. Falcons throw up 31 and kill clock in the fourth

RAM69

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 3:27 AM ET #39

I like the Falcons -3.5. They need home field locked up and the Saints have had to much baggage. Plus the dirty birds play damn well at home. Saints D is that bad folks..good luck on talking Bree's in ATL. Will take Bree's number sin Fantasy, but this is reality people and reality is the Falcons are flying to the Super Bowl!

Duh4U

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 5:25 AM ET #40

O0oOooohhhh i dunno mister vue but really . you say about hard to escape your past but if yu keep a putting your foot in the mouth ,there is a nOo0ooOooo escaping duh fact that your data base ? lolololololol

leaves a many perplexed as yu say. of course in my country they say opinion is like an a hole and a everybody has one but please mister vue lolololol is it so difficult to for yu to see how yur data and a picks are incredibly bad ! yu really believe noOooOo one has a tv set or radio in these a days that people know that the saints need to win to keep a playoffs alive ???? si senore vue,everybody has the a hole but yu with a no doubt must be duh xxxL size !!!!!lolololol

i no play saints becoz yu like them and would be unwise to a go against yur data base that flushes money like a toilet vs eagles ,packers ectcetera and in any case my wife hits hard with the casserolla if i dont bring a home the bacon on duh pizza !!!!lolololo.no play finalmente and mille grazzi mister vue for saving me money

.luigi

lookingtowin

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 6:14 AM ET #41

Quote Originally Posted by Duh4U:

O0oOooohhhh i dunno mister vue but really . you say about hard to escape your past but if yu keep a putting your foot in the mouth ,there is a nOo0ooOooo escaping duh fact that your data base ? lolololololol

.luigi

Who wrote this a grade 3 student.

Duh4U

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 6:50 AM ET #42

lololol mister looking to win. you see the day you can a speak italiano and a russian please come back to me and very sorry my englissh is very bad but if yu can not understand then it is you in fact with duh brain of a three years old. Capiche or what ? looking to win ? where ?with you ? lolololol

luigi

moviefan

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 7:20 AM ET #43

Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

Who wrote this a grade 3 student.

At least he spelled perplexed correctly.

VEGASRKNZ

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 8:32 AM ET #44

Falcons -4

Duh4U

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 8:50 AM ET #45

hahahaha this is funny mister movie fan !!! almost as funny as mister vue's data base

!!!!!

DrDogs

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 9:58 AM ET #46

Atl and ov for the large. Atl shows us that the feathered is fully operational and the who days show us without payton and def they aren't the same. Would pats be as effective with mcdaniels as coach?

If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC

DrDogs

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 10:00 AM ET #47

Feathers

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DrDogs

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 10:00 AM ET #48

That was supposed to be death star

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LoCarbMonster

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Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 10:08 AM ET #49

To the guy who said "my local has saints +4 and Total at 56"....

let me ask this as gently as possible: Are you out of your mind? A, teasers are bad to begin with...and B, you accept someone who gives you 4 points on totals? LOL. Ive never used a bookie in my life. If I wasn't living in vegas, there's online betting. I'm shocked that bookies still exist.

As far as the game tonight....don't have a feel either way, so i will watch and study while I watch the Cats beat up on notre dame! Good luck to everyone!