New England at Indianapolis (11/04/2007)
this is what i'm talking about... this isn't handicapping information... it's painting the roses red! you make it sound like the Pats have the edge in strength of schedule, when everyone knows it hasn't even been close... i like how the "Colts have played a bunch of .500 teams"... the worst they have played is Houston at 3-5, but 3-2 outside of the AFC South... with the best being Tennessee and Jacksonville at 5-2 (both playoff bound teams and a combined 8-1 outside of their division)... but the Patriots have played "both ends of the spectrum", including 2 playoff teams (SD is 4-3 in arguably the weakest division in football... outside of the Pats division, of course)...
The Patriots have played 3 of the top 6 ranked offensive teams in the NFL (Dallas, Cincy, and Cleveland) and shut them down. The 2 top offensive teams that Indy have played has been Denver and Houston. They gave up over 20 points to both of them.
interesting... no mention of the fact that the Colts have only played 1 team in the bottom 10 on defense... the Pats have played all of the bottom 4, and 5 of the bottom 10... not to mention failing to mention that the Pats have given up 28 points and 27 points (not exactly shutting them down)... that is more than the Colts have given up in any games this year...
don't argue! make an argument... this is weak information...
are you here to blindly convince people the Pats are the right side, or are you here to actually show that it is? because i thought this was a thread for sharing handicapping information...
almost everything on this thread is pure garbage... including some of the info from people siding with the Colts...
let's get something useful going here...
this is what i'm talking about... this isn't handicapping information... it's painting the roses red! you make it sound like the Pats have the edge in strength of schedule, when everyone knows it hasn't even been close... i like how the "Colts have played a bunch of .500 teams"... the worst they have played is Houston at 3-5, but 3-2 outside of the AFC South... with the best being Tennessee and Jacksonville at 5-2 (both playoff bound teams and a combined 8-1 outside of their division)... but the Patriots have played "both ends of the spectrum", including 2 playoff teams (SD is 4-3 in arguably the weakest division in football... outside of the Pats division, of course)...
The Patriots have played 3 of the top 6 ranked offensive teams in the NFL (Dallas, Cincy, and Cleveland) and shut them down. The 2 top offensive teams that Indy have played has been Denver and Houston. They gave up over 20 points to both of them.
interesting... no mention of the fact that the Colts have only played 1 team in the bottom 10 on defense... the Pats have played all of the bottom 4, and 5 of the bottom 10... not to mention failing to mention that the Pats have given up 28 points and 27 points (not exactly shutting them down)... that is more than the Colts have given up in any games this year...
don't argue! make an argument... this is weak information...
are you here to blindly convince people the Pats are the right side, or are you here to actually show that it is? because i thought this was a thread for sharing handicapping information...
almost everything on this thread is pure garbage... including some of the info from people siding with the Colts...
let's get something useful going here...
Yeah and you guys are the greatest handicappers of all time. You can handicap until your blue in the face and still come up with a loser. There are not too many handicappers better than RobertoFiory and he handicapped the Monday night game and was willing to call it his game of the year with Denver winning and by the way i was with him and who won the game. The reason you are not seeing a lot of stats on this game is because when a team demolishes everything in sight like the Pats it would take you three days to list their pros and 2 seconds to list their cons. Myself i have won on every Pats game this year and they will cover anything up to 7 just too many weapons and thats all the handicapping you have to do. Colts will win if Brady and company all get injured.![]()
Yeah and you guys are the greatest handicappers of all time. You can handicap until your blue in the face and still come up with a loser. There are not too many handicappers better than RobertoFiory and he handicapped the Monday night game and was willing to call it his game of the year with Denver winning and by the way i was with him and who won the game. The reason you are not seeing a lot of stats on this game is because when a team demolishes everything in sight like the Pats it would take you three days to list their pros and 2 seconds to list their cons. Myself i have won on every Pats game this year and they will cover anything up to 7 just too many weapons and thats all the handicapping you have to do. Colts will win if Brady and company all get injured.![]()
I thought Sanders was their key D man. That would keep the ball in the air for the Pats.
I thought Sanders was their key D man. That would keep the ball in the air for the Pats.
it opened at NE (-3), and that is the lowest line they could have possibly opened at... there is no way they would not get a RUSH of NE money with that line... THAT was the lock of the century... they could have opened it at NE (-6) and would still get more money on the Pats...
just take that for what it's worth... when i saw it open at (-4.5) at my book i knew that it was too low and would definitely go up to 7 or more... the public was itching to bet on NE in this game...
as for Sanders being their key defender... don't know if you've watched a lot of their games but he is the key defender against the pass... he floats back there and makes it impossible for the QB to find open WRs in the middle... and the pass rush is what has been making it impossible to find WRs deep down the field on the edges... in this game, Indy wants to force the Pats to run, so i expect to see Sanders primarily dropping back... the key for the Pats to win this game is to establish the run enough that play-action will actually work... if they can't draw Sanders up into the box, they will be ineffective throwing the ball...
i'm starting to think a good play would be to bet the Pats first half, expecting them to get an early lead, and then double up on the Colts at halftime, expecting them to make a comeback... but i'm afraid it would backfire if the Colts keep it close or have a lead at halftime, and i will miss the opportunity on the Colts...
it opened at NE (-3), and that is the lowest line they could have possibly opened at... there is no way they would not get a RUSH of NE money with that line... THAT was the lock of the century... they could have opened it at NE (-6) and would still get more money on the Pats...
just take that for what it's worth... when i saw it open at (-4.5) at my book i knew that it was too low and would definitely go up to 7 or more... the public was itching to bet on NE in this game...
as for Sanders being their key defender... don't know if you've watched a lot of their games but he is the key defender against the pass... he floats back there and makes it impossible for the QB to find open WRs in the middle... and the pass rush is what has been making it impossible to find WRs deep down the field on the edges... in this game, Indy wants to force the Pats to run, so i expect to see Sanders primarily dropping back... the key for the Pats to win this game is to establish the run enough that play-action will actually work... if they can't draw Sanders up into the box, they will be ineffective throwing the ball...
i'm starting to think a good play would be to bet the Pats first half, expecting them to get an early lead, and then double up on the Colts at halftime, expecting them to make a comeback... but i'm afraid it would backfire if the Colts keep it close or have a lead at halftime, and i will miss the opportunity on the Colts...
"As for the line being so low...... What is Vegas supposed to put the line at."
it opened at NE (-3), and that is the lowest line they could have possibly opened at... there is no way they would not get a RUSH of NE money with that line... THAT was the lock of the century... they could have opened it at NE (-6) and would still get more money on the Pats...
just take that for what it's worth... when i saw it open at (-4.5) at my book i knew that it was too low and would definitely go up to 7 or more... the public was itching to bet on NE in this game...
as for Sanders being their key defender... don't know if you've watched a lot of their games but he is the key defender against the pass... he floats back there and makes it impossible for the QB to find open WRs in the middle... and the pass rush is what has been making it impossible to find WRs deep down the field on the edges... in this game, Indy wants to force the Pats to run, so i expect to see Sanders primarily dropping back... the key for the Pats to win this game is to establish the run enough that play-action will actually work... if they can't draw Sanders up into the box, they will be ineffective throwing the ball...
i'm starting to think a good play would be to bet the Pats first half, expecting them to get an early lead, and then double up on the Colts at halftime, expecting them to make a comeback... but i'm afraid it would backfire if the Colts keep it close or have a lead at halftime, and i will miss the opportunity on the Colts...
So you expect Sanders to somehow cover Moss, Welker, Watson and Stallworth. I can see where he is a threat to most teams but no other team has the offensive arsenal that the Pats do right now. Main reason why the Pats have been blowing teams out. I don't see the Colts putting much pressure on Brady as no one has done it thus far. The only way the Colts have a chance in my mind is if they control the clock and make sure they score on just about every pos.. They won't be able to based on what the Pats have done to every other team.
"As for the line being so low...... What is Vegas supposed to put the line at."
it opened at NE (-3), and that is the lowest line they could have possibly opened at... there is no way they would not get a RUSH of NE money with that line... THAT was the lock of the century... they could have opened it at NE (-6) and would still get more money on the Pats...
just take that for what it's worth... when i saw it open at (-4.5) at my book i knew that it was too low and would definitely go up to 7 or more... the public was itching to bet on NE in this game...
as for Sanders being their key defender... don't know if you've watched a lot of their games but he is the key defender against the pass... he floats back there and makes it impossible for the QB to find open WRs in the middle... and the pass rush is what has been making it impossible to find WRs deep down the field on the edges... in this game, Indy wants to force the Pats to run, so i expect to see Sanders primarily dropping back... the key for the Pats to win this game is to establish the run enough that play-action will actually work... if they can't draw Sanders up into the box, they will be ineffective throwing the ball...
i'm starting to think a good play would be to bet the Pats first half, expecting them to get an early lead, and then double up on the Colts at halftime, expecting them to make a comeback... but i'm afraid it would backfire if the Colts keep it close or have a lead at halftime, and i will miss the opportunity on the Colts...
So you expect Sanders to somehow cover Moss, Welker, Watson and Stallworth. I can see where he is a threat to most teams but no other team has the offensive arsenal that the Pats do right now. Main reason why the Pats have been blowing teams out. I don't see the Colts putting much pressure on Brady as no one has done it thus far. The only way the Colts have a chance in my mind is if they control the clock and make sure they score on just about every pos.. They won't be able to based on what the Pats have done to every other team.
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