Kansas City at Philadelphia (09/19/2013)

Quote Originally Posted by dukeycat:

KC @ PHI -3 ou 50

Everyone is remembering the opening drive of PHI on MNF where PHI ran 9 plays in 2min 30 sec and drove down to the WAS 17…but forgetting it was D. Hall that scored for WAS ending the drive, jogging 75 yds for a td after picking up a deflected lateral.

 

Former Leavenworth inmate #33765-183 is finally emerging from bankruptcy (most players go bankrupt after leaving the NFL, not while still in it) and Vick is the #3 rated (119) QB in the NFL with 6 tds (4 pass/2 rush) 0 ints and 315yd/gm...
so....
he will finish the season with 96 tds and PHI will avg 32pt/gm. NOT!

The hype is on $6.5mil/yr Kelly’s “fast-paced” offense but SD ran more plays than PHI (79 to 59) last game, and only 7 more than WAS in wk1. (74 to 67). So is it really that “fast paced”? This isn’t the 82 play/gm avg of Oregon.

 

I don’t care what offense you use, it won’t turn a 78 rating QB into a 119 rating, McCoy will never run 31 times in a gm ever again. Vick is old and isn’t running for 1000 yds like back in ‘06 when the iphone didn’t even exist.

The problem for PHI is that they need to keep the offense on the field longer so they can keep their defense off the field.

 

PHI has allowed 460yds per game (third worst in the NFL) PHI def can’t stop the pass (just ask E. Royal and his 3 tds) and made P. Rivers look like a superstar last wk (419yds, 76%completions, 3 tds, 124 rating)

 

KC has the #3 def (248yd/gm) in the league and #2 against the run. They held DAL to 1 td. (3 fgs).
Stats are probably padded since they played JAC in wk1... But

…KC has 4 def players that made the probowl last year in D. Johnson LB, T. Hali LB, J. Houston LB,  and safety E. Berry SS (combo of Hali/Houston had 19 sacks last yr)

Excellent CB B. Flowers pairing with newly signed S. Smith (3 yr 16mil) rounds out an under the public radar very good KC defense. But can KC make the needed open field tackles on D. Jackson and L. McCoy?

 

A. Smith was doing just fine with SF until he got a concussion and bust a “kap in your person” took his job. He doesn’t throw a lot of ints (5 in 2011) and was completing 70% of passes before the injury in 2012.

 

This is the question, can the KC offense put up enough pts against the weak PHI def to keep up with the trio of D Jackson, L McCoy and M Vick against a good KC def?

Although Vick hasn’t thrown an int…yet,  he still fumbles a lot (11 last yr), and he is due to throw an int.

 TO's will be the difference in this game, and that's where PHI led the league in 2012.

 

Turn around teams beat the spread. (DET 2010 12-4 ATS)

 

Taking KC+3

Quote Originally Posted by easypics:

Quote Originally Posted by dukeycat:

KC @ PHI -3 ou 50

Everyone is remembering the opening drive of PHI on MNF where PHI ran 9 plays in 2min 30 sec and drove down to the WAS 17…but forgetting it was D. Hall that scored for WAS ending the drive, jogging 75 yds for a td after picking up a deflected lateral.

 

Former Leavenworth inmate #33765-183 is finally emerging from bankruptcy (most players go bankrupt after leaving the NFL, not while still in it) and Vick is the #3 rated (119) QB in the NFL with 6 tds (4 pass/2 rush) 0 ints and 315yd/gm...
so....
he will finish the season with 96 tds and PHI will avg 32pt/gm. NOT!

The hype is on $6.5mil/yr Kelly’s “fast-paced” offense but SD ran more plays than PHI (79 to 59) last game, and only 7 more than WAS in wk1. (74 to 67). So is it really that “fast paced”? This isn’t the 82 play/gm avg of Oregon.

 

I don’t care what offense you use, it won’t turn a 78 rating QB into a 119 rating, McCoy will never run 31 times in a gm ever again. Vick is old and isn’t running for 1000 yds like back in ‘06 when the iphone didn’t even exist.

The problem for PHI is that they need to keep the offense on the field longer so they can keep their defense off the field.

 

PHI has allowed 460yds per game (third worst in the NFL) PHI def can’t stop the pass (just ask E. Royal and his 3 tds) and made P. Rivers look like a superstar last wk (419yds, 76%completions, 3 tds, 124 rating)

 

KC has the #3 def (248yd/gm) in the league and #2 against the run. They held DAL to 1 td. (3 fgs).
Stats are probably padded since they played JAC in wk1... But

…KC has 4 def players that made the probowl last year in D. Johnson LB, T. Hali LB, J. Houston LB,  and safety E. Berry SS (combo of Hali/Houston had 19 sacks last yr)

Excellent CB B. Flowers pairing with newly signed S. Smith (3 yr 16mil) rounds out an under the public radar very good KC defense. But can KC make the needed open field tackles on D. Jackson and L. McCoy?

 

A. Smith was doing just fine with SF until he got a concussion and bust a “kap in your person” took his job. He doesn’t throw a lot of ints (5 in 2011) and was completing 70% of passes before the injury in 2012.

 

This is the question, can the KC offense put up enough pts against the weak PHI def to keep up with the trio of D Jackson, L McCoy and M Vick against a good KC def?

Although Vick hasn’t thrown an int…yet,  he still fumbles a lot (11 last yr), and he is due to throw an int.

 TO's will be the difference in this game, and that's where PHI led the league in 2012.

 

Turn around teams beat the spread. (DET 2010 12-4 ATS)

 

Taking KC+3

Quote Originally Posted by holtnt:

Philadelphia dropped the ball last week to a good defensive squad and a excellent offensive squad that can score with anybody when they are clicking.  You have an above average defensive squad and below average offensive squad visiting #7 and Chip on a short week.  Don’t think Kansas City can apply the offensive pressure on Philadelphia like San Diego did…  Let’s NOT over react to last week’s loss as that loss has created value in the line this week…

 

With that said, put me down for Philadelphia minus the field goal at the house for a Nickel please.  Thanks! 

Quote Originally Posted by dukeycat:

KC @ PHI -3 ou 50

Everyone is remembering the opening drive of PHI on MNF where PHI ran 9 plays in 2min 30 sec and drove down to the WAS 17…but forgetting it was D. Hall that scored for WAS ending the drive, jogging 75 yds for a td after picking up a deflected lateral.

 

Former Leavenworth inmate #33765-183 is finally emerging from bankruptcy (most players go bankrupt after leaving the NFL, not while still in it) and Vick is the #3 rated (119) QB in the NFL with 6 tds (4 pass/2 rush) 0 ints and 315yd/gm...
so....
he will finish the season with 96 tds and PHI will avg 32pt/gm. NOT!

The hype is on $6.5mil/yr Kelly’s “fast-paced” offense but SD ran more plays than PHI (79 to 59) last game, and only 7 more than WAS in wk1. (74 to 67). So is it really that “fast paced”? This isn’t the 82 play/gm avg of Oregon.

 

I don’t care what offense you use, it won’t turn a 78 rating QB into a 119 rating, McCoy will never run 31 times in a gm ever again. Vick is old and isn’t running for 1000 yds like back in ‘06 when the iphone didn’t even exist.

The problem for PHI is that they need to keep the offense on the field longer so they can keep their defense off the field.

 

PHI has allowed 460yds per game (third worst in the NFL) PHI def can’t stop the pass (just ask E. Royal and his 3 tds) and made P. Rivers look like a superstar last wk (419yds, 76%completions, 3 tds, 124 rating)

 

KC has the #3 def (248yd/gm) in the league and #2 against the run. They held DAL to 1 td. (3 fgs).
Stats are probably padded since they played JAC in wk1... But

…KC has 4 def players that made the probowl last year in D. Johnson LB, T. Hali LB, J. Houston LB,  and safety E. Berry SS (combo of Hali/Houston had 19 sacks last yr)

Excellent CB B. Flowers pairing with newly signed S. Smith (3 yr 16mil) rounds out an under the public radar very good KC defense. But can KC make the needed open field tackles on D. Jackson and L. McCoy?

 

A. Smith was doing just fine with SF until he got a concussion and bust a “kap in your person” took his job. He doesn’t throw a lot of ints (5 in 2011) and was completing 70% of passes before the injury in 2012.

 

This is the question, can the KC offense put up enough pts against the weak PHI def to keep up with the trio of D Jackson, L McCoy and M Vick against a good KC def?

Although Vick hasn’t thrown an int…yet,  he still fumbles a lot (11 last yr), and he is due to throw an int.

 TO's will be the difference in this game, and that's where PHI led the league in 2012.

 

Turn around teams beat the spread. (DET 2010 12-4 ATS)

 

Taking KC+3

Quote Originally Posted by sjon412:

not for nothing Vue but your last 3 or so "Prime Plays" have lost. NWE loser PIT loser

Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

After further review, I have decided that the Eagles are my play. Just on the mere fact that its not physically possible for their defense to play any worse than they did last week, and that under the lights in a prime time setting, they will be up to the task. I hope last week was their reality check / wake-up call, and I think their PAC 10 defense redeems themselves after a pathetic outing last week. Reid may know their tendencies, but the Eagles know Reid's west coast offense as well, and will also be prepared to at least slow it down. I also expect Alex Smith to see a bunch of different looks than the Eagles showed last week.