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    Jacksonville at Houston (12/01/2008)

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    chuckwagon
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:04 PM ET #51

    Very good stats from FullAccess and DukeyCat...
     
    No playoffs on the line for either but the home field and MNF gives Tex more heart tonight.
     
    Numbers point to an over--and neither defense is good enough to win the SEC on Saturday.
     
    I'm going Tex -3 and OVER
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    Very good stats from FullAccess and DukeyCat...
     
    No playoffs on the line for either but the home field and MNF gives Tex more heart tonight.
     
    Numbers point to an over--and neither defense is good enough to win the SEC on Saturday.
     
    I'm going Tex -3 and OVER
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:05 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by glefkb01:

     

    I agree MNF is 11-1 for the over....   the only under was that PITT game

    There have actually been two unders depending where you got the TOTAL for the Denver @ NE game. I had it at 48.5. and the game finished at 48.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by glefkb01:

     

    I agree MNF is 11-1 for the over....   the only under was that PITT game

    There have actually been two unders depending where you got the TOTAL for the Denver @ NE game. I had it at 48.5. and the game finished at 48.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:07 PM ET #53

    many years of wagering I found that when two teams with average or below average offenses and average and below average defenses play. The outcome is usually UNDER.

    Jeedo
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    many years of wagering I found that when two teams with average or below average offenses and average and below average defenses play. The outcome is usually UNDER.

    Jeedo
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:10 PM ET #54

    taking Houston and Under
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    taking Houston and Under
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:15 PM ET #55

    Jags D is a little shaky right now. Houston D just flat out sucks. Neither offense is anything special, but first MNF gamefor Houston?? im thinkin good amount of points. Plus jags runnin all over houston.. im goin OVER. leaning pretty hard on houston too.. gonna wait til game time. GL
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    Jags D is a little shaky right now. Houston D just flat out sucks. Neither offense is anything special, but first MNF gamefor Houston?? im thinkin good amount of points. Plus jags runnin all over houston.. im goin OVER. leaning pretty hard on houston too.. gonna wait til game time. GL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:17 PM ET #56

    BullsiT game, but alwayz ride wit da home squad! under is da play wit wack teamz...
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    BullsiT game, but alwayz ride wit da home squad! under is da play wit wack teamz...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:17 PM ET #57

    im taking the texans here jags defense sucks. yes i no so do the texans but its a matter of who sucks more. Ill take the home team here.
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    im taking the texans here jags defense sucks. yes i no so do the texans but its a matter of who sucks more. Ill take the home team here.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:23 PM ET #58

    Hmm..I think the thing to look at here is who as the better coach and who's QB plays under distress better. Neither of these two teams are very good this year. Is Matt Schaub playing tonight?
     
    Jacksonville is also 3-2 ATS on the road compared to 0-6 at home. This might be a good place to buy a half a point and take the Jaguars +3.5 and the UNDER is probably a good play. Vegas has already started to make adjustments on trends like the MNF OVER. How long do you think they will lose money?
     
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    Hmm..I think the thing to look at here is who as the better coach and who's QB plays under distress better. Neither of these two teams are very good this year. Is Matt Schaub playing tonight?
     
    Jacksonville is also 3-2 ATS on the road compared to 0-6 at home. This might be a good place to buy a half a point and take the Jaguars +3.5 and the UNDER is probably a good play. Vegas has already started to make adjustments on trends like the MNF OVER. How long do you think they will lose money?
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:27 PM ET #59

    JAX 31-16

    talent beats hard work tonight!  no run defence and no running game = clock possession and turnovers!
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    JAX 31-16

    talent beats hard work tonight!  no run defence and no running game = clock possession and turnovers!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:40 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    Hmm..I think the thing to look at here is who as the better coach and who's QB plays under distress better. Neither of these two teams are very good this year. Is Matt Schaub playing tonight?
     
    Jacksonville is also 3-2 ATS on the road compared to 0-6 at home. This might be a good place to buy a half a point and take the Jaguars +3.5 and the UNDER is probably a good play. Vegas has already started to make adjustments on trends like the MNF OVER. How long do you think they will lose money?
     

    Further reseach shows that these two teams have met 13 times since the Texans entered the league. All 13 of those games had over/under lines which fell in the 36 to 42.5 range. Tonight's total is significantly higher than any of them and shows great value to play the UNDER.

    UNDER 48.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    Hmm..I think the thing to look at here is who as the better coach and who's QB plays under distress better. Neither of these two teams are very good this year. Is Matt Schaub playing tonight?
     
    Jacksonville is also 3-2 ATS on the road compared to 0-6 at home. This might be a good place to buy a half a point and take the Jaguars +3.5 and the UNDER is probably a good play. Vegas has already started to make adjustments on trends like the MNF OVER. How long do you think they will lose money?
     

    Further reseach shows that these two teams have met 13 times since the Texans entered the league. All 13 of those games had over/under lines which fell in the 36 to 42.5 range. Tonight's total is significantly higher than any of them and shows great value to play the UNDER.

    UNDER 48.5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:42 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by danstyk:

    Just found this on a Fla newspaper site -- Florida Times-Union.
    7 out of 8 writers are predicting the Texans to win....  ????

    Peter King -- Sports Illustrated -- TEXANS 23-17

    John McClain -- Houston Chronicle -- TEXANS 24-20

    Greg Cote -- Miami Herald -- JAGUARS 28-17

    Terry Bannon -- Chicago Tribune -- TEXANS 20-13

    Pete Prisco -- cbssports.com -- TEXANS 27-17

    Tom Weir -- USA Today -- TEXANS 20-16

    Dan Caesar -- Post-Dispatch -- TEXANS 27-17

    Clifton Brown -- Sporting News -- TEXANS 22-19


    Seems fishy to me.... am I the only one who thinks so? 

     

    none of them like the over lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by danstyk:

    Just found this on a Fla newspaper site -- Florida Times-Union.
    7 out of 8 writers are predicting the Texans to win....  ????

    Peter King -- Sports Illustrated -- TEXANS 23-17

    John McClain -- Houston Chronicle -- TEXANS 24-20

    Greg Cote -- Miami Herald -- JAGUARS 28-17

    Terry Bannon -- Chicago Tribune -- TEXANS 20-13

    Pete Prisco -- cbssports.com -- TEXANS 27-17

    Tom Weir -- USA Today -- TEXANS 20-16

    Dan Caesar -- Post-Dispatch -- TEXANS 27-17

    Clifton Brown -- Sporting News -- TEXANS 22-19


    Seems fishy to me.... am I the only one who thinks so? 

     

    none of them like the over lol

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:48 PM ET #62

    What jumps out at me is the total. It opened at 48 with 65% of the action on the under. The line is now 48.5 still close but more action on the under.  With more action being on the under you would think the line would drop yet it goes up a 1/2 point. Very odd. Are we missing something?
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    What jumps out at me is the total. It opened at 48 with 65% of the action on the under. The line is now 48.5 still close but more action on the under.  With more action being on the under you would think the line would drop yet it goes up a 1/2 point. Very odd. Are we missing something?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:51 PM ET #63

    Public numbers are very random and I wouldn't rely on them. I have never seen accurate public numbers.
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    Public numbers are very random and I wouldn't rely on them. I have never seen accurate public numbers.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 5:57 PM ET #64

    Under - Under - Under!!!!!!!
    Lots of FG'S.........
    Texans 23
    Jags 19
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    Under - Under - Under!!!!!!!
    Lots of FG'S.........
    Texans 23
    Jags 19
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 6:10 PM ET #65

    FYI
     
    Jacksonville is 3-9 ATS in the past 12 games vs Houston
    The past 3 meeting have played OVER the total
     
    The O/U is to hard to cap.  Just going with one side.
     
    Houston -3 buying down half point on Bookmaker
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    FYI
     
    Jacksonville is 3-9 ATS in the past 12 games vs Houston
    The past 3 meeting have played OVER the total
     
    The O/U is to hard to cap.  Just going with one side.
     
    Houston -3 buying down half point on Bookmaker
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 6:11 PM ET #66

    Gonna take the over... Overs at Houston are 4-1 this season and 9-2 in all of the Texans games. Sombody scores usually .... GL to all 
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    Gonna take the over... Overs at Houston are 4-1 this season and 9-2 in all of the Texans games. Sombody scores usually .... GL to all 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 6:31 PM ET #67

    i do like huston on this game it will be tight though considdering both  defence arnt that good .but the off.  isnt any better.i do see a running game  to waste the clock thats why i want the under...  any imput on why i shouldnt take the under   i will be willing to listen..ty...
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    i do like huston on this game it will be tight though considdering both  defence arnt that good .but the off.  isnt any better.i do see a running game  to waste the clock thats why i want the under...  any imput on why i shouldnt take the under   i will be willing to listen..ty...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 6:37 PM ET #68

    Both defenses are average but Houston has the better offense and homefield advantage.  Taking Houston -3 and small on the over.
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    Both defenses are average but Houston has the better offense and homefield advantage.  Taking Houston -3 and small on the over.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 6:42 PM ET #69

    tex and under for me
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    tex and under for me
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 6:44 PM ET #70

    I actually like this game a lot......I'm not playing it tonight.......got to get up early and hate playing games I can't follow.  Must be part of the sickness.....but Houston has plenty of offense to blow up in this game and Jax isn't the team we have all come to know......weak recievers.......weak secondary........Houston doesn't play defense either.......roll with the strongest trend I have found anywhere over the year........play the over and Houston in even amounts and I doubt you would do anyworse than split........you might just make a pile without having to parlay! 
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    I actually like this game a lot......I'm not playing it tonight.......got to get up early and hate playing games I can't follow.  Must be part of the sickness.....but Houston has plenty of offense to blow up in this game and Jax isn't the team we have all come to know......weak recievers.......weak secondary........Houston doesn't play defense either.......roll with the strongest trend I have found anywhere over the year........play the over and Houston in even amounts and I doubt you would do anyworse than split........you might just make a pile without having to parlay! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 6:48 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by lilsickone:

    This is the first time that the Houston Texans have hosted a Monday Night Football game in the history of the franchise, so look for an inspired effort here vs. a Jacksonville Jaguars team that appears to be just going through the motions at this point.
     
    Houston ML BIG & Med size play on spread.
    That's just how I roll....

    I'm sorry, but this is such a load of pretzel logic that it is apparent that this is the reason most people are going to make their donations on behalf of the mediocre texans.  and remember folks, the texans have ALWAYS been mediocre, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they lost their ONE AND ONLY monday nite football game.  i think more attention needs to be brought to this failing franchise and question whether or not they even deserve to be in this league.  if i put a gun to your head and had you decide which team truly had the better talent, you would find yourself hard-pressed to go with Rosenfels and a rookie running back with chest pain backed up by a porous defense. 

    DONT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE TEXANS HYPE.  THERE IS PLENTY GOOD REASON WHY IT HAS TAKEN THIS LONG FOR THEIR FIRST MONDAY NITE FOOTBALL GAME.  LET US JUST HOPE THAT IT TAKES EVEN LONGER FOR THEIR NEXT ONE.....

    TAKE JAGS ON THE ML.  GET PAID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilsickone:

    This is the first time that the Houston Texans have hosted a Monday Night Football game in the history of the franchise, so look for an inspired effort here vs. a Jacksonville Jaguars team that appears to be just going through the motions at this point.
     
    Houston ML BIG & Med size play on spread.
    That's just how I roll....

    I'm sorry, but this is such a load of pretzel logic that it is apparent that this is the reason most people are going to make their donations on behalf of the mediocre texans.  and remember folks, the texans have ALWAYS been mediocre, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they lost their ONE AND ONLY monday nite football game.  i think more attention needs to be brought to this failing franchise and question whether or not they even deserve to be in this league.  if i put a gun to your head and had you decide which team truly had the better talent, you would find yourself hard-pressed to go with Rosenfels and a rookie running back with chest pain backed up by a porous defense. 

    DONT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE TEXANS HYPE.  THERE IS PLENTY GOOD REASON WHY IT HAS TAKEN THIS LONG FOR THEIR FIRST MONDAY NITE FOOTBALL GAME.  LET US JUST HOPE THAT IT TAKES EVEN LONGER FOR THEIR NEXT ONE.....

    TAKE JAGS ON THE ML.  GET PAID.

     
    mooremoney
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 6:49 PM ET #72

    under 1st half (24) - $200 play
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    under 1st half (24) - $200 play
     
    OffDaHook
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    First off, I don't see how anyone can HONESTLY say that there is an edge either way in this game. Both teams flat out SUCK and vegas has given the home team their 3 point advantage because this game is truely a coin flip. If we were not all degenerate gamblers we would look at this game and run the other way. Down a little this week and not ready to get in deeper, this game has NO value at all, too many ????? There is always tomorrow and the next day and so on, no need to dig in deeper.
     
    GOOD LUCK EITHER WAY YOU GO!!!
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    First off, I don't see how anyone can HONESTLY say that there is an edge either way in this game. Both teams flat out SUCK and vegas has given the home team their 3 point advantage because this game is truely a coin flip. If we were not all degenerate gamblers we would look at this game and run the other way. Down a little this week and not ready to get in deeper, this game has NO value at all, too many ????? There is always tomorrow and the next day and so on, no need to dig in deeper.
     
    GOOD LUCK EITHER WAY YOU GO!!!
     
    Fpronk
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 6:52 PM ET #74

    Any word on Matt Schaub?
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    Any word on Matt Schaub?
     
     
    W8LIFTER
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    Any word on Matt Schaub?

    November 30
    Houston Chronicle: "The Texans will not know until close to game time Monday night if quarterback Matt Schaub is healthy enough to back up Sage Rosenfels against the Jacksonville Jaguars. "Sage will start," coach Gary Kubiak said after Saturday's practice. "Matt's made a lot of progress, and he's gotten better each day. He took all the reps today with the scout team. "If we feel good about his practice, then he'll go into the game as the backup. But if we don't feel good about it, he won't suit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    Any word on Matt Schaub?

    November 30
    Houston Chronicle: "The Texans will not know until close to game time Monday night if quarterback Matt Schaub is healthy enough to back up Sage Rosenfels against the Jacksonville Jaguars. "Sage will start," coach Gary Kubiak said after Saturday's practice. "Matt's made a lot of progress, and he's gotten better each day. He took all the reps today with the scout team. "If we feel good about his practice, then he'll go into the game as the backup. But if we don't feel good about it, he won't suit up.

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