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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 1:19 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

    JAC +3 (.5u) - I'll take the Jags at home, altho the Colts may win SU, i'm betting a backdoor cover, something around COLTS 20 - Jaguars 18.  I'll pull the trigger closer to gametime, hoping for the hook. Time for the books to get on track with everyone and his mother's brother on the Colts...IMHO

    I just can't see the Colts losing this game....but to avoid any sneaky business as far as the cover, I'm buying two points.

    Colts -1 (-175). Going to sprinkle some on the Under as well.Only way Jax scores is if Jennings go off, don't see it happening but you never know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

    JAC +3 (.5u) - I'll take the Jags at home, altho the Colts may win SU, i'm betting a backdoor cover, something around COLTS 20 - Jaguars 18.  I'll pull the trigger closer to gametime, hoping for the hook. Time for the books to get on track with everyone and his mother's brother on the Colts...IMHO

    I just can't see the Colts losing this game....but to avoid any sneaky business as far as the cover, I'm buying two points.

    Colts -1 (-175). Going to sprinkle some on the Under as well.Only way Jax scores is if Jennings go off, don't see it happening but you never know...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 1:25 AM ET #27

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 1:43 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by cwaise:


    I just can't see the Colts losing this game....but to avoid any sneaky business as far as the cover, I'm buying two points.

    Colts -1 (-175). Going to sprinkle some on the Under as well.Only way Jax scores is if Jennings go off, don't see it happening but you never know...

    wouldn't a 7 point under tease be a safer bet considering jax can, maybe on turnovers, pull an u pset win?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwaise:


    I just can't see the Colts losing this game....but to avoid any sneaky business as far as the cover, I'm buying two points.

    Colts -1 (-175). Going to sprinkle some on the Under as well.Only way Jax scores is if Jennings go off, don't see it happening but you never know...

    wouldn't a 7 point under tease be a safer bet considering jax can, maybe on turnovers, pull an u pset win?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 2:57 AM ET #29

    I just feel all the people that cashed on Sunday will be clobbered on thursday.  The short number is begging for a raise.  The Public is all-in on the Colts.  If the Jags were such a bad team (which they are), why the fishy number.  The Colts did not blow out two other bad teams in the likes of Cleveland and Tennessee. I'm still thinking a +3.5 for the Jaguars is the right play....IMHO.  Even with Luck at the helm, i'm still showing an equal score for YPPT, taking into account SOS and HFA...i'm just sayin...
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    I just feel all the people that cashed on Sunday will be clobbered on thursday.  The short number is begging for a raise.  The Public is all-in on the Colts.  If the Jags were such a bad team (which they are), why the fishy number.  The Colts did not blow out two other bad teams in the likes of Cleveland and Tennessee. I'm still thinking a +3.5 for the Jaguars is the right play....IMHO.  Even with Luck at the helm, i'm still showing an equal score for YPPT, taking into account SOS and HFA...i'm just sayin...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 3:21 AM ET #30

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 3:33 AM ET #31

    You have to be insane if you seriously think Jax wins this game. Colts are hungry right now. Jags just got beat up by Detroit! If you dislike Indy then save your money and do not bet! Either take Indy or stay out don't put money up on what many consider the worst team in the NFL. 
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    You have to be insane if you seriously think Jax wins this game. Colts are hungry right now. Jags just got beat up by Detroit! If you dislike Indy then save your money and do not bet! Either take Indy or stay out don't put money up on what many consider the worst team in the NFL. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 4:36 AM ET #32

    I'm liking the Under too with Indy.  The absense of MJD is too significant to not make a difference in the Jaguar's game.  The 177 yards MJD made a difference in that game any anyone thinking otherwise must be smoking crack.  You can even watch highlights about how the Jags won that game outright here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU_OA6XtFxM

    2 scores that made a difference for the Jags that got them the win.  1st one was with MJD with a 50yd+ run for a score.  Bam there goes 1 TD.  Next one and the game winning TD to Cecil shorts on an 80 TD in the final minute.  Bam that's 2.  So guess what?  Thrusday there won't be any TD's from MJD, and how often do you break off a 80yd TD?  

    So 14 points from 22 is a significant amount.  Imagine that game with no MJD and no "lucky" last minute drive because that didn't happen at any other time in the game at ALL.  Score could've easily been 8-17 and Indy would've covered.  

    So let's fast forward to this week.  I doubt that Cecil will have another 80 yarder TD this game, MJD is out and now their rushing game is only averaging a meager 32 yards.  That won't open up any play action plays at all thus they will rely only on passing which Indy is above average ranking 11 in passing defense. 

    Luckily they won't have to worry as much with their bad 25th ranked rush defense.  

    But seems that the Jags have Indy locked down when it comes to scoring and don't see it to be a huge difference here, hence the under.  This game will be close but the Colts will be able to score enough to cover.  Probably win by 7-10 max.  

    If anything they'll push so no win or loss either way but the under screams big play here with a slightly smaller bet on Indy.


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    I'm liking the Under too with Indy.  The absense of MJD is too significant to not make a difference in the Jaguar's game.  The 177 yards MJD made a difference in that game any anyone thinking otherwise must be smoking crack.  You can even watch highlights about how the Jags won that game outright here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU_OA6XtFxM

    2 scores that made a difference for the Jags that got them the win.  1st one was with MJD with a 50yd+ run for a score.  Bam there goes 1 TD.  Next one and the game winning TD to Cecil shorts on an 80 TD in the final minute.  Bam that's 2.  So guess what?  Thrusday there won't be any TD's from MJD, and how often do you break off a 80yd TD?  

    So 14 points from 22 is a significant amount.  Imagine that game with no MJD and no "lucky" last minute drive because that didn't happen at any other time in the game at ALL.  Score could've easily been 8-17 and Indy would've covered.  

    So let's fast forward to this week.  I doubt that Cecil will have another 80 yarder TD this game, MJD is out and now their rushing game is only averaging a meager 32 yards.  That won't open up any play action plays at all thus they will rely only on passing which Indy is above average ranking 11 in passing defense. 

    Luckily they won't have to worry as much with their bad 25th ranked rush defense.  

    But seems that the Jags have Indy locked down when it comes to scoring and don't see it to be a huge difference here, hence the under.  This game will be close but the Colts will be able to score enough to cover.  Probably win by 7-10 max.  

    If anything they'll push so no win or loss either way but the under screams big play here with a slightly smaller bet on Indy.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 6:32 AM ET #33

    This line has to be a trap. If this game would be played in Indy right now, the line would prob be -9 or even higher. Now have in mind that jacksonville is 0-4 ATS @ home with an avg. socre of 9-32 . There is absolutely no homefield advantage.

    At the beginning of the year, i was confident that gabbert could improve to a mediocre quarterback - that confidence was blown away when they draftet a punter in round 3. This franchise has no concept at all - and thats just what you see on the field week after week.

    Indi wins the head to head comparison in almost every category - i'm riding the hot team here! Colts -3

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    This line has to be a trap. If this game would be played in Indy right now, the line would prob be -9 or even higher. Now have in mind that jacksonville is 0-4 ATS @ home with an avg. socre of 9-32 . There is absolutely no homefield advantage.

    At the beginning of the year, i was confident that gabbert could improve to a mediocre quarterback - that confidence was blown away when they draftet a punter in round 3. This franchise has no concept at all - and thats just what you see on the field week after week.

    Indi wins the head to head comparison in almost every category - i'm riding the hot team here! Colts -3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 9:29 AM ET #34

    Talk about two teams going in opposite directions. Indy has been getting better the last three weeks while Jax is getting worse. Believe it or not Indy is in the playoff hunt, so this game means much more to them. I'll take my chances with Indy and the under. 
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    Talk about two teams going in opposite directions. Indy has been getting better the last three weeks while Jax is getting worse. Believe it or not Indy is in the playoff hunt, so this game means much more to them. I'll take my chances with Indy and the under. 
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 10:05 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by vietdeity86:


    wouldn't a 7 point under tease be a safer bet considering jax can, maybe on turnovers, pull an u pset win?

    True, but I honestly try to stay away from teases as much as I can. Colts could blow them out for all we know and it sails over. (i.e. 37-13). But I think the 7 pt Colts/Under tease is a good idea too. 


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    wouldn't a 7 point under tease be a safer bet considering jax can, maybe on turnovers, pull an u pset win?

    True, but I honestly try to stay away from teases as much as I can. Colts could blow them out for all we know and it sails over. (i.e. 37-13). But I think the 7 pt Colts/Under tease is a good idea too. 


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 10:17 AM ET #36

    I'm usually suspect about fishy lines, but not with this team, and not with MJD - he had over 2/3 of the Jags total offense in the last matchup. I think the line stands at 3, because of that last "win", but personally, I don't think this game will even be close. Another Thursday night stinkfest by halftime..............

    Colts 34 - - Jags maybe 3 or a lucky 7

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    I'm usually suspect about fishy lines, but not with this team, and not with MJD - he had over 2/3 of the Jags total offense in the last matchup. I think the line stands at 3, because of that last "win", but personally, I don't think this game will even be close. Another Thursday night stinkfest by halftime..............

    Colts 34 - - Jags maybe 3 or a lucky 7

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 10:18 AM ET #37

    <----------- Oh yeah, and what happened to my luscious ladies????
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    <----------- Oh yeah, and what happened to my luscious ladies????
    Yeah they took down my avatar because it had a pot leaf on it.Also I posted on forums making fun about all the USC backers in the Oregon game.They took my post down.What a bunch of hypocrites.Its illegal to gamble but thats all we talk about on here.They can kiss my ass.Im through posting on here and everyone else should to.There is a thing called the 1st amendment.Im out of here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    <----------- Oh yeah, and what happened to my luscious ladies????
    Yeah they took down my avatar because it had a pot leaf on it.Also I posted on forums making fun about all the USC backers in the Oregon game.They took my post down.What a bunch of hypocrites.Its illegal to gamble but thats all we talk about on here.They can kiss my ass.Im through posting on here and everyone else should to.There is a thing called the 1st amendment.Im out of here.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 1:05 PM ET #39

    Well someone grew a pair of balls.We at least got are avatars back.
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    Well someone grew a pair of balls.We at least got are avatars back.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 1:11 PM ET #40

    colts 2 starting corners are out
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 3:11 PM ET #41

    Jax +3.5 is the play.  I keep thinking back to two years on Monday night when they beat Balt at home on MNF.  Another nationally televised home game playing a team not much better than them.  Id give offense edge to colts (although it might be closer than people think playing outside their dome), defense edge to jax, home field to jax, getting the FG to jax.   
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    Jax +3.5 is the play.  I keep thinking back to two years on Monday night when they beat Balt at home on MNF.  Another nationally televised home game playing a team not much better than them.  Id give offense edge to colts (although it might be closer than people think playing outside their dome), defense edge to jax, home field to jax, getting the FG to jax.   
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 4:18 PM ET #42

    Well they took are avatars away again.Political correctness is what is ruining this country. Make up your minds you spineless pieces of shit.
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    Well they took are avatars away again.Political correctness is what is ruining this country. Make up your minds you spineless pieces of shit.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 5:04 PM ET #43

    Jax is not going to be able to stop a determined Colts team and Luck who's hot right now....Colts crush
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    Jax is not going to be able to stop a determined Colts team and Luck who's hot right now....Colts crush
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 5:33 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by unchoop15:

    Jax +3.5 is the play.  I keep thinking back to two years on Monday night when they beat Balt at home on MNF.  Another nationally televised home game playing a team not much better than them.  Id give offense edge to colts (although it might be closer than people think playing outside their dome), defense edge to jax, home field to jax, getting the FG to jax.   

    Are you serious man?  Slightly lower yards per play and more turnovers created, but that's where it ends.  Plus, Jax still battling secondary injuries

     

    INDY
    TOTAL Defense: 18
    Rush Def: 24
    Pass Def: 13
    Opponents yards per play: 24 (5.8)
    Opponent 3rd down pct 17 (40.00%)
    PPG allowed: 23(23.9 ppg)
    YPG allowed: 18 (352.2)
    Sacks per game: 18 (2.1)
    Takeaways per game: 32 (0.4 per game)
    Turnover Differential: -10
    Penalties: 26 (7.0)

    JAX
    TOTAL Defense: 27
    Rush Def: 27
    Pass Def: 25
    Opponents yards per play: 21 (5.6)
    Opponent 3rd down pct 29 (43.97%)
    PPG allowed: 26 (27.4 ppg)
    YPG allowed: 27 (392.2)
    Sacks per game: 32 (1.0)
    Takeaways per game: 26 (1.1 per game)
    Turnover Differential: -2
    Penalties: 3 (5.4) .  Cox/Lowery/Mathis status will prolly be updated.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by unchoop15:

    Jax +3.5 is the play.  I keep thinking back to two years on Monday night when they beat Balt at home on MNF.  Another nationally televised home game playing a team not much better than them.  Id give offense edge to colts (although it might be closer than people think playing outside their dome), defense edge to jax, home field to jax, getting the FG to jax.   

    Are you serious man?  Slightly lower yards per play and more turnovers created, but that's where it ends.  Plus, Jax still battling secondary injuries

     

    INDY
    TOTAL Defense: 18
    Rush Def: 24
    Pass Def: 13
    Opponents yards per play: 24 (5.8)
    Opponent 3rd down pct 17 (40.00%)
    PPG allowed: 23(23.9 ppg)
    YPG allowed: 18 (352.2)
    Sacks per game: 18 (2.1)
    Takeaways per game: 32 (0.4 per game)
    Turnover Differential: -10
    Penalties: 26 (7.0)

    JAX
    TOTAL Defense: 27
    Rush Def: 27
    Pass Def: 25
    Opponents yards per play: 21 (5.6)
    Opponent 3rd down pct 29 (43.97%)
    PPG allowed: 26 (27.4 ppg)
    YPG allowed: 27 (392.2)
    Sacks per game: 32 (1.0)
    Takeaways per game: 26 (1.1 per game)
    Turnover Differential: -2
    Penalties: 3 (5.4) .  Cox/Lowery/Mathis status will prolly be updated.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 5:34 PM ET #45

    Cox/Lowery/Mathis status will prolly be updated tomorrow.
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    Cox/Lowery/Mathis status will prolly be updated tomorrow.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 7:15 PM ET #46

    Jacksonville - 27                                        Indianapolis - 24

    Jaguars +3                                over 42.5

    Afew old trends have me losing my money on the Jags tonight.

    1. They play well off dd ats loss second half of the season.

    2. They play well ats vs divisional opponents seeking revenge.

    3. They play wellagainst opponents coming off a su dog win.

    4. Colts are lousy covering spreads against a .400< opponent.

    Luck runs out in the Sunshine State.

    Jaguars - Over

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    Jacksonville - 27                                        Indianapolis - 24

    Jaguars +3                                over 42.5

    Afew old trends have me losing my money on the Jags tonight.

    1. They play well off dd ats loss second half of the season.

    2. They play well ats vs divisional opponents seeking revenge.

    3. They play wellagainst opponents coming off a su dog win.

    4. Colts are lousy covering spreads against a .400< opponent.

    Luck runs out in the Sunshine State.

    Jaguars - Over

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 7:36 PM ET #47

          Stop messing with my identity-give me back my avatar!  Using the best dumb image I could find. Personally, I see the game being played close. It'll end up a cover or a push. And definitely plenty points scored. Jags are a scary team or Green Bay is a crappy team- anybodies guess.

    INDIANAPOLIS  - 3

    `Over 42.5

     

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          Stop messing with my identity-give me back my avatar!  Using the best dumb image I could find. Personally, I see the game being played close. It'll end up a cover or a push. And definitely plenty points scored. Jags are a scary team or Green Bay is a crappy team- anybodies guess.

    INDIANAPOLIS  - 3

    `Over 42.5

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 10:48 PM ET #48

    This looks like an awesome spot to fade the public.. Gimmie the Jaguars at home.. Gonna wait till tomorrow to pull the trigger, hoping to go up to 3.5
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    This looks like an awesome spot to fade the public.. Gimmie the Jaguars at home.. Gonna wait till tomorrow to pull the trigger, hoping to go up to 3.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 11:38 PM ET #49

    Indy  27

    Jacks  17

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    Indy  27

    Jacks  17

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2012 - 12:30 AM ET #50

    There is (one) thing that trumps all in sports - 

    Heart/Inspiration/Motivation

    You won't find it on a stat sheet, but certain people (Tebow) and certain situations (A coach dying of cancer) is an extremely powerful source. This is especially true in the NFL when every guy out on the field is already getting a fat paycheck. Desire/Heart beats talent every day. As a Cowboys fan I see all the talent in the world but 0 heart. I see Tony Romo with a stupid grin on his face after blowing yet another game after an interception. Look at Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Big Ben, Tom Brady. You'll see fire in their eyes, and you'll never see them smiling after making a mistake. You won't hear them talking about how "Oh well, there's always next year" 

    Back to my original point. 36 players on this Colts team shaved their heads in UNITY, for a HEAD COACH WITH CANCER. It will push them to their highest potential and I believe will make them a good bet for what I feel will be the rest of the year...  

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    There is (one) thing that trumps all in sports - 

    Heart/Inspiration/Motivation

    You won't find it on a stat sheet, but certain people (Tebow) and certain situations (A coach dying of cancer) is an extremely powerful source. This is especially true in the NFL when every guy out on the field is already getting a fat paycheck. Desire/Heart beats talent every day. As a Cowboys fan I see all the talent in the world but 0 heart. I see Tony Romo with a stupid grin on his face after blowing yet another game after an interception. Look at Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Big Ben, Tom Brady. You'll see fire in their eyes, and you'll never see them smiling after making a mistake. You won't hear them talking about how "Oh well, there's always next year" 

    Back to my original point. 36 players on this Colts team shaved their heads in UNITY, for a HEAD COACH WITH CANCER. It will push them to their highest potential and I believe will make them a good bet for what I feel will be the rest of the year...  

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