VP Harris.....

BTW.....it's "the Bro".

Just saw some clips from her appearance on a show......she claims she doesn't wanna run anymore "because the system is broken".

 Just saw more parts of the "interview".........holy shit, the country dodged a big bullet.

This is an example of how out of touch some of the ‘elite’ leaders of the Democrat party are:

Billionaire Mark Cuban believes former Vice President Kamala Harris's stance on cryptocurrencies was the main reason she lost the election to President Donald Trump.

This is one of the guys some in the party would like to see run.  

This was a comment on the article:

Cuban is not very politically perceptive with that hot take! Is he that obtuse or does he think we are?

@Raiders22

 How can you suggest that was not the case? Trump fake campaigned on crypto and it for sure brought him a biased voter base solely due to their crypto investments. I would say if she had been more aggressive with crypto that there were many votes lost with her approach ONLY due to just crypto.

Of course we are still waiting on the majority of promises he made about crypto and then of course he sucked billions out OF the said crypto markets with his self serving tokens, that has not been a good move nor has he followed through with his big mouth BTC treasury promise day one blah blah blah.

Crypto zealots got snowed by Trump and for sure Harris completely underestimated that impact, I think Cuban is completely spot on and being IN crypto myself and around a large deal of social media for it I have seen a TON of people that admitted to voting for Trump ONLY due to his crypto lies.

@wallstreetcappers

 How can you suggest that was not the case?

Because the word you left out was ‘main’.  
At no point in the campaign was this anywhere near a major factor in the election, let alone the ‘main’ factor.  
Simply look at what mattered to the folks at that time.  Then look at the typical demographic of the average bitcoin holder.  Then look at the demographic(s) that she lost support in. 

Her struggle was always twofold: 1) not separating herself from Biden and his policies and 2) running against Trump instead of running on herself.  

People did not like the direction the country was headed and she never clearly delineated the differences she would take from the current Biden policies. 
She ran on a platform of how bad Trump was, or would be, instead of running on how good she would be and how she would improve the country.  

The border and the economy and housing costs and other issues such as healthcare and world agitation were much bigger issues than crypto.  

Cuban is making the same mistake Harris and her team made:  thinking they know what people should care about more than the people themselves do, instead of listening to what the people say they care about.  

He is another example of someone that thinks because he is good at something in one area that he is good at something else that may or may not translate easily.

Very, very few (if any at all) ‘undecided’ voters were waiting on a crypto stance from her and switched because she did not have one.  

It had nothing to do with crypto.......it's because she's a blithering idiot that has no stance on anything. Good lord, how many times do you have to hear her talk to know she has no biz running for Prez, in fact she has no biz in Gov't. at all. Can you imagine her talking to leaders of other country's? Putin? Xi?

@Raiders22

 I disagree of course, the crypto vote was a definite swing vote that had no claim to the party without the draw for that purpose. Trump went to multiple major crypto events and touted his lies and promises for crypto and Ive seen MANY say that they voted for Trump just for his crypto promise and a lack of clarity and a perceived blockage from the DNC. Had Harris and the DNC been more aggressive towards crypto it easily could have swung millions of votes IMO that only went in the direction of the candidate due to crypto lies.

Cuban knows what he is talking about IMO and the DNC underestimated this voter base and they could have outright lied like Trump did and got more votes. One thing for sure Harris would not have stolen BILLIONS by floating a scam token like Trump(s) did.

@THEMUGG

 I guess I could listen to blabbering lies from Trump as we hear every day like how his uncle was a teacher at MIT and taught that serial killer when none of that is true.

So you like blabbering Trump and dislike blabbering Harris...how fun is that?

@wallstreetcappers

 Honest question........could you imagine Harris being our Prez right now?

@THEMUGG

 Without a doubt I could, no question. How is Trump better suited or Bush II better suited?

I know you bash the crap out of Harris and that is your choice but I do not share your opinion or views on her. At least she would not be scamming the public to make a personal profit or flying to Scotland to pimp a golf course while in office. I'd take Harris over Trump every single day without any hesitation.

Maybe Harris would have stood up to Israel and stopped the Gaza massacre or had pause over the Iran situation, I cant think it would have gone any worse than what Trump has done. Harris wouldnt fire a BLS reporting head or threaten the FED chair and throw tantrums on a personally owned social media every day. I'd choose Romney over Trump and even Pence over Trump and that says plenty.

@wallstreetcappers

 I get that it matters to the folks that may have a lot of it or want more of it and for it to do well.  Everyone has one or two issues that matter more to them individually.  But as a single issue to matter enough to sway the election -- the numbers and studies (pre and post-election) simply do not support that.

Top issues according to Pew:

Economy - 81%

Health Care - 65%

SC Appts - 63%

Foreign policy - 62%

Violent crime - 61%

Immigration - 61%

Gun policy - 56%

Abortion - 51%

Racial & Ethical inequality - 37%

Climate Change - 37%

7 in 10 say 5 or more issues mattered.

Republicans top issues were Immigration and Economy.

Democrats top issue was Abortion.

This is exactly why she lost:  The Democrats chose to key in on issues that swing voters did not care about — and crypto was not one of them.

Elsewhere you can see that of the folks that held crypto, 55% voted for Trump and 49% voted for Harris.

The problem is that this demographic also cares more about the economy and financial things and, thus, were supporting Trump anyway.

Roughly 18-19% of voters own any crypto.  These are split almost even by party allegiance.

This is akin to the voters that own stocks.  Less than a 1/3 of voters own more than $1000 in stocks (32%).  

57% of voters do not own any stocks at all.

So, you can see how this is not going to be the key swaying issue people want you to think that it is.

It is the same for the crypto issue.

This may have been the ‘deciding’ issue for some (or even the majority) of voters that held crypto; but by no means was it a ‘deciding’ issue for enough voters to have been the MAIN reason Trump won the election.

For example, you can go back and look at the pro-crypto Democrats that won during the election and see the same thing:  they also held more favorable economic stances and other things that mattered.  They, therefore, carried the voters that cared more about those issues as a whole.

Harris could have run on the most pro-crypto policy possible and she still would have been blown out. 

She had to have addressed her shortcomings that I talked about earlier.

A pro-crypto stance was the least of her lacking as a candidate.

Just coming out and saying she would be better for crypto than Trump would have been odd anyway.  Why choose this issue to have a detailed difference and try to be better than Trump on.  That would be bad campaigning.  Just like concentrating on issues like Abortion that she already had overwhelming support on.  She could have easily just done better on the overall Economy and Foreign Policy and Healthcare and the Border.  

She needed to be better on issues that mattered far more to far more people.

But she chose not to.  She chose just to run on who she is and not what she had done, or would do.

@wallstreetcappers

 Harris wouldnt fire a BLS reporting head or threaten the FED chair

You are correct that she would not do this.

BUT that is another reason that she was not elected.  She would not have the fortitude to make the decisions to do this. Voters also recognized that she was weak and indecisive.

I will also say Trump did not do enough.  He should have fired them all.  Why stop with just her.

She theoretically is costing the USA voters over $14B a month on interest because of missing this number by almost 80%.

Even as recently as 2 months ago, 'Too Late' was saying he could not trust the numbers coming out of there.

When you make that type of costly 'mistake' on any other job -- you will get fired!

@wallstreetcappers

  "I'd take Harris over Trump every single day without any hesitation....."

 Based on what......her extensive international experience? The way she tries to giggle her way out of tough questions? Or simply because she isn't Trump? She was given a couple of tasks as veep & shit the bed. Go watch the the colbert "interview"......nothing has changed. She's still a blathering fool that couldn't even deal with a talk show host. How do you think she'd do vs. world leaders? I'm glad we'll never have to find out.

@Raiders22

 Not the point of my reply, you commented about Cuban and his comments about crypto and the vote, none of what else you mentioned above was part of the comment about Cuban and the crypto vote.

His contention and I agree is that there was a large pool of voters who had no ties to any side and voted only due to Trump's lies about what he would do with crypto from DAY ONE..well day 1 is gone and he lied, big shocker. He also took billions in liquidity from the alt markets with his scam tokens which has not impressed many who voted for him SOLELY due to crypto lies.

I agree with Cuban, had Harris spun a story like Trump did and secured the crypto vote it could easily have swung the balance.

Where in any universe do you who seems to be economically intelligent think that ZIRP is an expected standard outside of Japan? We are not owed 1% FED fund rates, this is quite disturbing coming from you especially, at 4% we are right on trend with historical FED funds numbers...what an absurd thing to say. 

@THEMUGG

 Trump is a self serving abusive dictator, that reason alone is why I would take Harris TODAY if I could. Trump is a bumbling lying meandering awful public speaker, if all you have to discredit Harris is public speaking difficulties then what the crap are you doing supporting an unprepared meandering liar in Trump?

I see you regularly bash Harris and fall back on public speaking miscues, where was this with Bush or now with Trump? I dont care if someone is perfect at the podium, this fatal flaw to you means literally nothing to me.

@wallstreetcappers

His statement was that it was the MAIN issue she lost.

He was wrong.

@wallstreetcappers

The numbers are what the numbers are.  It does not matter what I think.  "Too Late' is using them, not me.

@Raiders22

 Too late is Trump whining yet again. The FED does not pin one point of data which has a high VOL level to why it makes a decision or not. The BLS data whipsaws all over the place because of the nature to which it is collected, the FED knows this and they plot this point of data into a larger trending data set and along with other points they make decisions. Trump reacting like this shows he severely lacks intelligence as the FED was not going to cut rates last week barring a MASSIVE multiple standard deviation shocker.

If Trump really wants to understand the FED then he would have never engaged with tariff nonsense. I suggest (as do others) that tariffs are to the FED a high risk of inflation and a measure of global chaos to which they are guarded against it. The FED wants to make thorough detailed decisions and their goal is to gently guide monetary policy with the least chaos possible, but Trump is Captain Chaos so he is actually harming his own objective by being an ADHD dictator making bonkers decisions not understanding the audience in question (the FED).

ZIRP is not a given expectation, where does Trump come off with such a stupid idea?

@wallstreetcappers

 When ‘Too Late’ says he cannot trust their numbers you know something is wrong.  

@Raiders22

 Plot the BLS data, it is always being adjusted and is very inconsistent. Firing someone will for sure make it all better, firing everyone will make it even super uber better. If that is the only tool a dictator has is fear and job loss well do not expect a better result. Maybe he will go fire all the small businesses that answered the surveys that makes the data, I am sure he can blame some small business owner as to why he didnt get his demanded ZIRP.

@THEMUGG

 As compared to whom?

I do not agree with your conclusion about Harris no more than you do with my dislike for Trump. Harris has done more for actual people than Trump has in his lifetime. As mentioned one thing for sure we would never see a POTUS scheming a meme token for personal profit nor bilk his sheep into buying a bible or a hat or some shoes or a real estate scam course or cologne or whatever else garbage he pumps.

Harris > Trump for only the measure of respect for the position and for a superior way of interacting with others especially those who she might disagree with. You can find me 5 examples of Harris being an elitist jerk I can find you 5000 of Trump doing that or worse.

@wallstreetcappers

Yes, they are always adjusted.  That is not the point.

Firing her for making an ~80% error is fine with me. 

If you look at the rest of the numbers there are other anomalies as well.