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    dl36
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2016 - 10:15 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    First sentence of my last post is your answer mr donkey.

    Are you as much of a boosh dag in real life as you are here?

    Don't answer. I already know.

    The first post was not an answer,  it was a deflection.

    You still can't articulate the topic of thread, just insults and name calling.  Even 165yds thought you are proving unable to produce and needed to bail you out. 

    If he didn't think you needed to bailed out he wouldn't have come in bashing.

    Funny how reality works.


    Please friend,  try and articulate the topic of the outraged documentary since you watched it and how it relates with Hastert and the closet case pedophile that protrays a strong GOP politics view as a means of overcompensating to hide his what his guy and pedophile urges make him think and act on.

    Can you do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    First sentence of my last post is your answer mr donkey.

    Are you as much of a boosh dag in real life as you are here?

    Don't answer. I already know.

    The first post was not an answer,  it was a deflection.

    You still can't articulate the topic of thread, just insults and name calling.  Even 165yds thought you are proving unable to produce and needed to bail you out. 

    If he didn't think you needed to bailed out he wouldn't have come in bashing.

    Funny how reality works.


    Please friend,  try and articulate the topic of the outraged documentary since you watched it and how it relates with Hastert and the closet case pedophile that protrays a strong GOP politics view as a means of overcompensating to hide his what his guy and pedophile urges make him think and act on.

    Can you do it?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2016 - 12:55 AM ET #127

    He can't come out of the closet and still expect to hold his political office.

    Simple.

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    https://youtu.be/xqsirbOJ9lw

    I named this dog derryl.
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    He can't come out of the closet and still expect to hold his political office.

    Simple.

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    https://youtu.be/xqsirbOJ9lw

    I named this dog derryl.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2016 - 3:17 AM ET #128

    Lol that's neither the topic nor is it the answer to my question

    It's very telling that you have to resort to infantile games and insults now that you have displayed to everyone that you are incapable of comprehending the topic even after watching the outrage documentary.  

    Because if you could comprehend the topic and have a civil dialog you would.  But instead you display to everyone that you Fail to get it by instead engaging in you odd infantile attempts at humor.   I'm thinking you're gonna need to be bailed out again.  Perhaps others would agree. 
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    Lol that's neither the topic nor is it the answer to my question

    It's very telling that you have to resort to infantile games and insults now that you have displayed to everyone that you are incapable of comprehending the topic even after watching the outrage documentary.  

    Because if you could comprehend the topic and have a civil dialog you would.  But instead you display to everyone that you Fail to get it by instead engaging in you odd infantile attempts at humor.   I'm thinking you're gonna need to be bailed out again.  Perhaps others would agree. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2016 - 9:13 AM ET #129

    Okay. Let me put it like this...if he comes out of the closet he wouldn't be reelected.

    Simple. Self preservation?
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    Okay. Let me put it like this...if he comes out of the closet he wouldn't be reelected.

    Simple. Self preservation?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2016 - 2:31 PM ET #130

    I read an interview with Bruce Bartlett on the net and I must say I share his views on the Party.
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    I read an interview with Bruce Bartlett on the net and I must say I share his views on the Party.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2016 - 2:42 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    Okay. Let me put it like this...if he comes out of the closet he wouldn't be reelected.

    Simple. Self preservation?

    Once again you Fail to comprehend the topic.  The whole strong GOP/anti-dem image and identity is the self preservation in the first place. The fact that these GOP politicians use this facade as a means of hiding their guy and pedophile urges and what those urges make them do.  Reelection is not the issue with these GOP closet case pedophiles.  I honestly think that you did not watch the documentary and that is why you can neither articulate the topic of this thread and the documentary nor can you even answer my question.

    I think you've proven yourself incapable of having the ability to do
    So and should just stop now that you have proven yourself completely stumped on what should be such a simple topic  
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    Okay. Let me put it like this...if he comes out of the closet he wouldn't be reelected.

    Simple. Self preservation?

    Once again you Fail to comprehend the topic.  The whole strong GOP/anti-dem image and identity is the self preservation in the first place. The fact that these GOP politicians use this facade as a means of hiding their guy and pedophile urges and what those urges make them do.  Reelection is not the issue with these GOP closet case pedophiles.  I honestly think that you did not watch the documentary and that is why you can neither articulate the topic of this thread and the documentary nor can you even answer my question.

    I think you've proven yourself incapable of having the ability to do
    So and should just stop now that you have proven yourself completely stumped on what should be such a simple topic  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2016 - 2:44 PM ET #132

    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    I read an interview with Bruce Bartlett on the net and I must say I share his views on the Party.

    As a non-partisan independent that calls out all posters regardless of side I am asking you to be specific on what you are talking about here. What interview and what views were shared?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    I read an interview with Bruce Bartlett on the net and I must say I share his views on the Party.

    As a non-partisan independent that calls out all posters regardless of side I am asking you to be specific on what you are talking about here. What interview and what views were shared?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2016 - 4:17 PM ET #133

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    As a non-partisan independent that calls out all posters regardless of side I am asking you to be specific on what you are talking about here. What interview and what views were shared?

    Well, I don't remember exactly the source but I read it today and it's on the first page of Yahoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    As a non-partisan independent that calls out all posters regardless of side I am asking you to be specific on what you are talking about here. What interview and what views were shared?

    Well, I don't remember exactly the source but I read it today and it's on the first page of Yahoo.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2016 - 4:44 PM ET #134

    Btw, there is no need to "call someone out". In addition, if Cruz is your guy, it's as partisan as it gets.
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    Btw, there is no need to "call someone out". In addition, if Cruz is your guy, it's as partisan as it gets.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2016 - 7:14 PM ET #135

    Wow this is weird to not have a response that is a total meltdown full of insults, name calling and emotional ranting. 

    First off I need to take a look at the article you referenced to have a response I am not one to has prescribed views and talking points that I cannot deviate from and look unable to comprehend an indepdent view point, so I will search for it, read and be able to give a coherent and logica response before commenting.

    Second I think my choice in Cruz is not Partisan. I guess as a non-partisan independent that is critical of both sides equally I am going to be seen as being for either side at times. My voting record is that I have voted for gw bush before but I have also voted for Obama and then turned right around and not voted for Obama.

    My logic for Cruz is that he is most presidential.  He knows the constitution, he knows how the govt actually works and he has experience.   

    anyone but Hillary for me and not because of the desperate smear campaign launched against her, but I think while she looks centrist like obama,  I do not like the undertones of a feministic agenda that she carries. 

    Anyone but trump.  This guy is literally all talk and making the GOP base look like fools.  I just refused to be fooled. 

    Anyone but sanders.  Sander is all theory and proves to everyone what a real socialist might look like rather than mislabeling politicians as true socialists.  No thank you. 

    So I'm left with cruz.

    Perhaps your ability to give me a response with out going Absolutely bananas is because the topic of the thread of the closet case guy pedophile that uses a anti-dem/GOP identity and image isn't something that resonates with you on such a personal level that it looks like it is speaking specifically about you. 

    At last that's what it looks like because you're acting normal and flipping out. 
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    Wow this is weird to not have a response that is a total meltdown full of insults, name calling and emotional ranting. 

    First off I need to take a look at the article you referenced to have a response I am not one to has prescribed views and talking points that I cannot deviate from and look unable to comprehend an indepdent view point, so I will search for it, read and be able to give a coherent and logica response before commenting.

    Second I think my choice in Cruz is not Partisan. I guess as a non-partisan independent that is critical of both sides equally I am going to be seen as being for either side at times. My voting record is that I have voted for gw bush before but I have also voted for Obama and then turned right around and not voted for Obama.

    My logic for Cruz is that he is most presidential.  He knows the constitution, he knows how the govt actually works and he has experience.   

    anyone but Hillary for me and not because of the desperate smear campaign launched against her, but I think while she looks centrist like obama,  I do not like the undertones of a feministic agenda that she carries. 

    Anyone but trump.  This guy is literally all talk and making the GOP base look like fools.  I just refused to be fooled. 

    Anyone but sanders.  Sander is all theory and proves to everyone what a real socialist might look like rather than mislabeling politicians as true socialists.  No thank you. 

    So I'm left with cruz.

    Perhaps your ability to give me a response with out going Absolutely bananas is because the topic of the thread of the closet case guy pedophile that uses a anti-dem/GOP identity and image isn't something that resonates with you on such a personal level that it looks like it is speaking specifically about you. 

    At last that's what it looks like because you're acting normal and flipping out. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2016 - 7:15 PM ET #136

    Sorry I mean not flipping out like the topic is about you on a personal and specific level
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    Sorry I mean not flipping out like the topic is about you on a personal and specific level
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2016 - 8:52 PM ET #137

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Once again you Fail to comprehend the topic.  The whole strong GOP/anti-dem image and identity is the self preservation in the first place. The fact that these GOP politicians use this facade as a means of hiding their guy and pedophile urges and what those urges make them do.  Reelection is not the issue with these GOP closet case pedophiles.  I honestly think that you did not watch the documentary and that is why you can neither articulate the topic of this thread and the documentary nor can you even answer my question.

    I think you've proven yourself incapable of having the ability to do
    So and should just stop now that you have proven yourself completely stumped on what should be such a simple topic  

    What makes you think he has his whole diabolical plan drawn out on a white board?

    Sometimes people just act as their impulses direct them to.

    I know you want them to act to fit to your prescribed agenda, but simply isn't realistic and you should know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Once again you Fail to comprehend the topic.  The whole strong GOP/anti-dem image and identity is the self preservation in the first place. The fact that these GOP politicians use this facade as a means of hiding their guy and pedophile urges and what those urges make them do.  Reelection is not the issue with these GOP closet case pedophiles.  I honestly think that you did not watch the documentary and that is why you can neither articulate the topic of this thread and the documentary nor can you even answer my question.

    I think you've proven yourself incapable of having the ability to do
    So and should just stop now that you have proven yourself completely stumped on what should be such a simple topic  

    What makes you think he has his whole diabolical plan drawn out on a white board?

    Sometimes people just act as their impulses direct them to.

    I know you want them to act to fit to your prescribed agenda, but simply isn't realistic and you should know better.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2016 - 9:22 PM ET #138

    You still don't get it.  It's not a diabolical plan it's pure survival.  Just like it's not about election.  The only thing a closet case homosexuall pedophile with a strong anti-dem/GOP image and identity like him needs to win is protesting too much in a fashion that makes him look like the last person to be gayy and/or a pedophile.

    I am now convinced that you did not watch the documentary. You can't possibly be that clueless to the topic after doing so 
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    You still don't get it.  It's not a diabolical plan it's pure survival.  Just like it's not about election.  The only thing a closet case homosexuall pedophile with a strong anti-dem/GOP image and identity like him needs to win is protesting too much in a fashion that makes him look like the last person to be gayy and/or a pedophile.

    I am now convinced that you did not watch the documentary. You can't possibly be that clueless to the topic after doing so 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2016 - 5:32 AM ET #139

    I never said I watched the documentary, I said I watched the trailer for the documentary. 

    The trailer was enough to sow me that the documentary would be boring unless you're a far left liberal hack waiting to pounce on any potential right wing story to pander to like minded mental midgets.

    I think there is no such official term 'pink elephant' for the subject you are talking about.
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    I never said I watched the documentary, I said I watched the trailer for the documentary. 

    The trailer was enough to sow me that the documentary would be boring unless you're a far left liberal hack waiting to pounce on any potential right wing story to pander to like minded mental midgets.

    I think there is no such official term 'pink elephant' for the subject you are talking about.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2016 - 12:14 PM ET #140

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Wow this is weird to not have a response that is a total meltdown full of insults, name calling and emotional ranting. 

    First off I need to take a look at the article you referenced to have a response I am not one to has prescribed views and talking points that I cannot deviate from and look unable to comprehend an indepdent view point, so I will search for it, read and be able to give a coherent and logica response before commenting.

    Second I think my choice in Cruz is not Partisan. I guess as a non-partisan independent that is critical of both sides equally I am going to be seen as being for either side at times. My voting record is that I have voted for gw bush before but I have also voted for Obama and then turned right around and not voted for Obama.

    My logic for Cruz is that he is most presidential.  He knows the constitution, he knows how the govt actually works and he has experience.   

    anyone but Hillary for me and not because of the desperate smear campaign launched against her, but I think while she looks centrist like obama,  I do not like the undertones of a feministic agenda that she carries. 

    Anyone but trump.  This guy is literally all talk and making the GOP base look like fools.  I just refused to be fooled. 

    Anyone but sanders.  Sander is all theory and proves to everyone what a real socialist might look like rather than mislabeling politicians as true socialists.  No thank you. 

    So I'm left with cruz.

    Perhaps your ability to give me a response with out going Absolutely bananas is because the topic of the thread of the closet case guy pedophile that uses a anti-dem/GOP identity and image isn't something that resonates with you on such a personal level that it looks like it is speaking specifically about you. 

    At last that's what it looks like because you're acting normal and flipping out. 

    Huh? Unless you are talking to someone else or it's just your routine, I certainly do not see any name-calling, insult or meltdown from me.

    Not unlike what you ask Bowl to do(watch the documentary), I simply want you to read it yourself first without injecting my personal opinion on the subject.

    Maybe I should be more clear, but when I said partisan, I was referring to Mr. Cruz.

    Cruz is most presidential out of the remaining five? I respectfully disagree. He might know the Constitution but he certainly doesn't respect it nearly as much as he claims. In his OWN words, he's "Christian first, American second...." and that hardly qualifies him as  a Constitutionalist.

    Knowing how the government works is different from making it work. In his brief Senate career so far, he's nothing but an obstructionist. Everything he's said or done is only towards his own political ambition. I see him as the most divisive candidate of all.

    Yes, Trump is all talk but at least I know he doesn't even believe everything he said. Cruz is much more dangerous in that aspect and he WILL go as low as he can as long as he thinks it will earn him a few more votes.

    As far as sticking to the topic, I sure don't see a few of you doing that at all time(ok, it's always the other side's fault). For the former Speaker, he deserves what is coming for him and I sincerely hope the Court would not show any leniency.

    Lastly, your "personal and specific about you" game doesn't work on me and I just want to save you some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Wow this is weird to not have a response that is a total meltdown full of insults, name calling and emotional ranting. 

    First off I need to take a look at the article you referenced to have a response I am not one to has prescribed views and talking points that I cannot deviate from and look unable to comprehend an indepdent view point, so I will search for it, read and be able to give a coherent and logica response before commenting.

    Second I think my choice in Cruz is not Partisan. I guess as a non-partisan independent that is critical of both sides equally I am going to be seen as being for either side at times. My voting record is that I have voted for gw bush before but I have also voted for Obama and then turned right around and not voted for Obama.

    My logic for Cruz is that he is most presidential.  He knows the constitution, he knows how the govt actually works and he has experience.   

    anyone but Hillary for me and not because of the desperate smear campaign launched against her, but I think while she looks centrist like obama,  I do not like the undertones of a feministic agenda that she carries. 

    Anyone but trump.  This guy is literally all talk and making the GOP base look like fools.  I just refused to be fooled. 

    Anyone but sanders.  Sander is all theory and proves to everyone what a real socialist might look like rather than mislabeling politicians as true socialists.  No thank you. 

    So I'm left with cruz.

    Perhaps your ability to give me a response with out going Absolutely bananas is because the topic of the thread of the closet case guy pedophile that uses a anti-dem/GOP identity and image isn't something that resonates with you on such a personal level that it looks like it is speaking specifically about you. 

    At last that's what it looks like because you're acting normal and flipping out. 

    Huh? Unless you are talking to someone else or it's just your routine, I certainly do not see any name-calling, insult or meltdown from me.

    Not unlike what you ask Bowl to do(watch the documentary), I simply want you to read it yourself first without injecting my personal opinion on the subject.

    Maybe I should be more clear, but when I said partisan, I was referring to Mr. Cruz.

    Cruz is most presidential out of the remaining five? I respectfully disagree. He might know the Constitution but he certainly doesn't respect it nearly as much as he claims. In his OWN words, he's "Christian first, American second...." and that hardly qualifies him as  a Constitutionalist.

    Knowing how the government works is different from making it work. In his brief Senate career so far, he's nothing but an obstructionist. Everything he's said or done is only towards his own political ambition. I see him as the most divisive candidate of all.

    Yes, Trump is all talk but at least I know he doesn't even believe everything he said. Cruz is much more dangerous in that aspect and he WILL go as low as he can as long as he thinks it will earn him a few more votes.

    As far as sticking to the topic, I sure don't see a few of you doing that at all time(ok, it's always the other side's fault). For the former Speaker, he deserves what is coming for him and I sincerely hope the Court would not show any leniency.

    Lastly, your "personal and specific about you" game doesn't work on me and I just want to save you some time.

     
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    ^ He won't respond to you because he has no clue why he attacked you in the first and last two sentences. 
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    ^ He won't respond to you because he has no clue why he attacked you in the first and last two sentences. 
     
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    You still seeing pink elephant s have adrink man....... Good of you to try añd stop though but your bar stool misses you .....
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    You still seeing pink elephant s have adrink man....... Good of you to try añd stop though but your bar stool misses you .....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    Huh? Unless you are talking to someone else or it's just your routine, I certainly do not see any name-calling, insult or meltdown from me.

    Not unlike what you ask Bowl to do(watch the documentary), I simply want you to read it yourself first without injecting my personal opinion on the subject.

    Maybe I should be more clear, but when I said partisan, I was referring to Mr. Cruz.

    Cruz is most presidential out of the remaining five? I respectfully disagree. He might know the Constitution but he certainly doesn't respect it nearly as much as he claims. In his OWN words, he's "Christian first, American second...." and that hardly qualifies him as  a Constitutionalist.

    Knowing how the government works is different from making it work. In his brief Senate career so far, he's nothing but an obstructionist. Everything he's said or done is only towards his own political ambition. I see him as the most divisive candidate of all.

    Yes, Trump is all talk but at least I know he doesn't even believe everything he said. Cruz is much more dangerous in that aspect and he WILL go as low as he can as long as he thinks it will earn him a few more votes.

    As far as sticking to the topic, I sure don't see a few of you doing that at all time(ok, it's always the other side's fault). For the former Speaker, he deserves what is coming for him and I sincerely hope the Court would not show any leniency.

    Lastly, your "personal and specific about you" game doesn't work on me and I just want to save you some time.


    Sorry if you feel I was accusing you of that behavior, it was just refreshing to not have all those childish games. 

    I agree with you that someone that believes in putting his own religious agenda ahead of his country doesn't sound like a constitutionalist. I probably can't argue that.

    I think that I get what you're saying about Cruz being a mindless anti-Obama obstructionist and I think this is a reason why the GOP is so weak in that for 8 years they had no identity other than being against anything and everything Obama did and said. But I feel at least he knows and understands how govt works with all the time he spent being teabagger vs trump who is pandering to the GOP base with talking points but no experience or first hand knowledge of govt.

    I agree with you also that personal and specific doesn't work on you because you didn't flip and go bananas.  So I guess you "fail" the closet case guy pedophile test because you're not posting like a madman like the topic  resonates with you on a personal level.

    As a non-partisan independent that is critical of all sides this thread is showing that people of all sides disagree with me and that I'm willing to engage in civil dialog when it is presented like this.

    You give some good points about Cruz,  but maybe not enough for me to change my support for him.  Still time tho.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    Huh? Unless you are talking to someone else or it's just your routine, I certainly do not see any name-calling, insult or meltdown from me.

    Not unlike what you ask Bowl to do(watch the documentary), I simply want you to read it yourself first without injecting my personal opinion on the subject.

    Maybe I should be more clear, but when I said partisan, I was referring to Mr. Cruz.

    Cruz is most presidential out of the remaining five? I respectfully disagree. He might know the Constitution but he certainly doesn't respect it nearly as much as he claims. In his OWN words, he's "Christian first, American second...." and that hardly qualifies him as  a Constitutionalist.

    Knowing how the government works is different from making it work. In his brief Senate career so far, he's nothing but an obstructionist. Everything he's said or done is only towards his own political ambition. I see him as the most divisive candidate of all.

    Yes, Trump is all talk but at least I know he doesn't even believe everything he said. Cruz is much more dangerous in that aspect and he WILL go as low as he can as long as he thinks it will earn him a few more votes.

    As far as sticking to the topic, I sure don't see a few of you doing that at all time(ok, it's always the other side's fault). For the former Speaker, he deserves what is coming for him and I sincerely hope the Court would not show any leniency.

    Lastly, your "personal and specific about you" game doesn't work on me and I just want to save you some time.


    Sorry if you feel I was accusing you of that behavior, it was just refreshing to not have all those childish games. 

    I agree with you that someone that believes in putting his own religious agenda ahead of his country doesn't sound like a constitutionalist. I probably can't argue that.

    I think that I get what you're saying about Cruz being a mindless anti-Obama obstructionist and I think this is a reason why the GOP is so weak in that for 8 years they had no identity other than being against anything and everything Obama did and said. But I feel at least he knows and understands how govt works with all the time he spent being teabagger vs trump who is pandering to the GOP base with talking points but no experience or first hand knowledge of govt.

    I agree with you also that personal and specific doesn't work on you because you didn't flip and go bananas.  So I guess you "fail" the closet case guy pedophile test because you're not posting like a madman like the topic  resonates with you on a personal level.

    As a non-partisan independent that is critical of all sides this thread is showing that people of all sides disagree with me and that I'm willing to engage in civil dialog when it is presented like this.

    You give some good points about Cruz,  but maybe not enough for me to change my support for him.  Still time tho.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

      

    I think there is no such official term 'pink elephant' for the subject you are talking about.

    +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

      

    I think there is no such official term 'pink elephant' for the subject you are talking about.

    +1
     
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    Enough.  We get it.  You lack the mental capability to understand the topic of the thread or the documentary. 

    You have proven that over And over and over in thread 

    I would ask you again to answer my question or articulate the topic in a coherent manner but history has shown that you can't.  No sense in grilling someone that is so inept
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    Enough.  We get it.  You lack the mental capability to understand the topic of the thread or the documentary. 

    You have proven that over And over and over in thread 

    I would ask you again to answer my question or articulate the topic in a coherent manner but history has shown that you can't.  No sense in grilling someone that is so inept
     
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    “The defendant is a serial child molester,” said Judge Thomas M. Durkin, of Federal District Court, in a tough rebuke of the former speaker before issuing his sentence. He added, “Nothing is more stunning than having ‘serial child molester’ and ‘Speaker of the House’ in the same sentence.”

    Pointing out the vulnerability of Mr. Hastert’s young victims, he said they were damaged for years.

    “If there’s a public shaming of the defendant because of the conduct he’s engaged in, so be it,” Judge Durkin said.

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    “The defendant is a serial child molester,” said Judge Thomas M. Durkin, of Federal District Court, in a tough rebuke of the former speaker before issuing his sentence. He added, “Nothing is more stunning than having ‘serial child molester’ and ‘Speaker of the House’ in the same sentence.”

    Pointing out the vulnerability of Mr. Hastert’s young victims, he said they were damaged for years.

    “If there’s a public shaming of the defendant because of the conduct he’s engaged in, so be it,” Judge Durkin said.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Sorry if you feel I was accusing you of that behavior, it was just refreshing to not have all those childish games. 

    I agree with you that someone that believes in putting his own religious agenda ahead of his country doesn't sound like a constitutionalist. I probably can't argue that.

    I think that I get what you're saying about Cruz being a mindless anti-Obama obstructionist and I think this is a reason why the GOP is so weak in that for 8 years they had no identity other than being against anything and everything Obama did and said. But I feel at least he knows and understands how govt works with all the time he spent being teabagger vs trump who is pandering to the GOP base with talking points but no experience or first hand knowledge of govt.

    I agree with you also that personal and specific doesn't work on you because you didn't flip and go bananas.  So I guess you "fail" the closet case guy pedophile test because you're not posting like a madman like the topic  resonates with you on a personal level.

    As a non-partisan independent that is critical of all sides this thread is showing that people of all sides disagree with me and that I'm willing to engage in civil dialog when it is presented like this.

    You give some good points about Cruz,  but maybe not enough for me to change my support for him.  Still time tho.  

    O'Reilly? C'mon DL. I get the non-partisan independent stuff but no one believes you support Cruz. You cannot name one position of his that you support. He's anti-abortion, anti-happy rights, pro-Israel, non-environmentalist, anti- any form of gun control, etc. 

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Sorry if you feel I was accusing you of that behavior, it was just refreshing to not have all those childish games. 

    I agree with you that someone that believes in putting his own religious agenda ahead of his country doesn't sound like a constitutionalist. I probably can't argue that.

    I think that I get what you're saying about Cruz being a mindless anti-Obama obstructionist and I think this is a reason why the GOP is so weak in that for 8 years they had no identity other than being against anything and everything Obama did and said. But I feel at least he knows and understands how govt works with all the time he spent being teabagger vs trump who is pandering to the GOP base with talking points but no experience or first hand knowledge of govt.

    I agree with you also that personal and specific doesn't work on you because you didn't flip and go bananas.  So I guess you "fail" the closet case guy pedophile test because you're not posting like a madman like the topic  resonates with you on a personal level.

    As a non-partisan independent that is critical of all sides this thread is showing that people of all sides disagree with me and that I'm willing to engage in civil dialog when it is presented like this.

    You give some good points about Cruz,  but maybe not enough for me to change my support for him.  Still time tho.  

    O'Reilly? C'mon DL. I get the non-partisan independent stuff but no one believes you support Cruz. You cannot name one position of his that you support. He's anti-abortion, anti-happy rights, pro-Israel, non-environmentalist, anti- any form of gun control, etc. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    You still don't get it.  It's not a diabolical plan it's pure survival.  Just like it's not about election.  The only thing a closet case homosexuall pedophile with a strong anti-dem/GOP image and identity like him needs to win is protesting too much in a fashion that makes him look like the last person to be gayy and/or a pedophile.

    I am now convinced that you did not watch the documentary. You can't possibly be that clueless to the topic after doing so 


    I'm just trying to understand the argument here. Are you using the example of a guy like the father in American Beauty? The one who shot Kevin Spacey as an example of that mentality? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    You still don't get it.  It's not a diabolical plan it's pure survival.  Just like it's not about election.  The only thing a closet case homosexuall pedophile with a strong anti-dem/GOP image and identity like him needs to win is protesting too much in a fashion that makes him look like the last person to be gayy and/or a pedophile.

    I am now convinced that you did not watch the documentary. You can't possibly be that clueless to the topic after doing so 


    I'm just trying to understand the argument here. Are you using the example of a guy like the father in American Beauty? The one who shot Kevin Spacey as an example of that mentality? 
     
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    Well Dennis hazert has been sentenced. Six months with 6 year probationary period and fined 250,000 for the bank structuring......
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    Well Dennis hazert has been sentenced. Six months with 6 year probationary period and fined 250,000 for the bank structuring......
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    O'Reilly? C'mon DL. I get the non-partisan independent stuff but no one believes you support Cruz. You cannot name one position of his that you support. He's anti-abortion, anti-happy rights, pro-Israel, non-environmentalist, anti- any form of gun control, etc. 


    Cruz won't make America a laughing stock. Trump will.  I'm not saying Cruz embodies everything I believe in but considering the choices he is the most presidential and we at least know what we are getting in Cruz.

    For the record I am anti-abortion.  I think personally it's wrong and it is killing.  Therefore I support contraception and birth control. I am also against the govt getting involved in abortion because the right to choose to have an abortion is coupled with the right not to choose to have an abortion.  If you look at eugenics it is scary to me that govt could have that level of power and perhaps dictate who should be aborted/killed. 

    I am not for gayy rights but for equal rights for all.  I'm not gayy so it's hard for me to back them,  but to systematically utilize govt and policy to go against s specific group seems wrong.  Especially if it is a means of hiding personal urges as shown by the topic of this thread 

    Israel is one that I don't feel strongly about mainly because I'm
    Not jewish.  I think American support should be there but to what extent is debatable. 

    Non-environmentalist is one that I have an opinion on in that the problem lies with the people destroying the earth.  But govts role in that is debatable.  I think there should be huge punishments for violations and more importantly outcomes.  Companies should have their internal polcies on minimizing pollution and follow their own polciies to avoid errors.  But I'm not sure if the govt should mandate how a company does business. 

    Gun control to me is a lost cause. 

    These are my non-partisan independent views.  I don't trust anything trump says. Hillary is to me is not likable and while she looks like a centrist I worry about a social feministic agenda.   So Cruz I think will be a good one term president that won't screw things up because he's going to be so obssesed with undoing Obamas work from the executive office 
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    O'Reilly? C'mon DL. I get the non-partisan independent stuff but no one believes you support Cruz. You cannot name one position of his that you support. He's anti-abortion, anti-happy rights, pro-Israel, non-environmentalist, anti- any form of gun control, etc. 


    Cruz won't make America a laughing stock. Trump will.  I'm not saying Cruz embodies everything I believe in but considering the choices he is the most presidential and we at least know what we are getting in Cruz.

    For the record I am anti-abortion.  I think personally it's wrong and it is killing.  Therefore I support contraception and birth control. I am also against the govt getting involved in abortion because the right to choose to have an abortion is coupled with the right not to choose to have an abortion.  If you look at eugenics it is scary to me that govt could have that level of power and perhaps dictate who should be aborted/killed. 

    I am not for gayy rights but for equal rights for all.  I'm not gayy so it's hard for me to back them,  but to systematically utilize govt and policy to go against s specific group seems wrong.  Especially if it is a means of hiding personal urges as shown by the topic of this thread 

    Israel is one that I don't feel strongly about mainly because I'm
    Not jewish.  I think American support should be there but to what extent is debatable. 

    Non-environmentalist is one that I have an opinion on in that the problem lies with the people destroying the earth.  But govts role in that is debatable.  I think there should be huge punishments for violations and more importantly outcomes.  Companies should have their internal polcies on minimizing pollution and follow their own polciies to avoid errors.  But I'm not sure if the govt should mandate how a company does business. 

    Gun control to me is a lost cause. 

    These are my non-partisan independent views.  I don't trust anything trump says. Hillary is to me is not likable and while she looks like a centrist I worry about a social feministic agenda.   So Cruz I think will be a good one term president that won't screw things up because he's going to be so obssesed with undoing Obamas work from the executive office 
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