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    Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey ranks Biden #14!! ...Obama #7 ...GWBush #32 ...Trump ranks DEAD LAST!

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    fubah2
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2024 - 9:01 PM ET #451

    2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey

     

    an_light  As ranked by Liberals inside the survey

                            *Only the 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


    06  Barack Obama <--- guy the MAGAs HATE for some reason

    12  Bill Clinton
    13  Joe Biden  <---- ranked 42 spots better than trump! an_2drinks

    18  Ronald Reagan
    19  Jimmy Carter
    20  George H.W. Bush

        ~ Median of 45 ~

    28  Gerald Ford       thumbs_down
    33  George W. Bush  thumbs_down
    35  Richard Nixon  thumbs_down

     

        ~ huge gap ~


    45  an_laugh   trump  "the CONVICTED FELON"  an_bomb

    Reply

    2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey

     

    an_light  As ranked by Liberals inside the survey

                            *Only the 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


    06  Barack Obama <--- guy the MAGAs HATE for some reason

    12  Bill Clinton
    13  Joe Biden  <---- ranked 42 spots better than trump! an_2drinks

    18  Ronald Reagan
    19  Jimmy Carter
    20  George H.W. Bush

        ~ Median of 45 ~

    28  Gerald Ford       thumbs_down
    33  George W. Bush  thumbs_down
    35  Richard Nixon  thumbs_down

     

        ~ huge gap ~


    45  an_laugh   trump  "the CONVICTED FELON"  an_bomb

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2024 - 9:18 PM ET #452

    only reason trump is ranked 45 is bcuz thats all the presidents we had

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    only reason trump is ranked 45 is bcuz thats all the presidents we had

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2024 - 9:20 PM ET #453

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @scooby-doos  they are losing it.... think about it really.  Put yourself in their shoes.... Just a few short months ago there was no doubt in the minds of these people that Trump was going to be defeated by Jeo come November.  So much conviction, so much emotional investment these past 4 years.  Blindly ignoring in some cases and just blind in other cases, these people lived their lives for the hatred of another man they've never met all while morally and mentally following whatever the regime told them to believe.  I mean, these people literally lived and breathed for the obsessional fanaticism of a political figure that they opposed.  In conjunction with this, they carried this hate with them to those who supported their obsession.  To these people, anyone who did not "agree with their politics" was automatically lumped in with "MAGA" or the right.  It was either "all in" with me or "all out with you".  No democratic middle ground.   This was the environment just less than a short 8 weeks ago.  Think about all that has transpired since that May debate, with the culmination of this past week's events.   These people are BREAKING DOWN.  Mental and physical anguish of everything they believed (or chose to ignore) these past 4 years coming to a crashing halt.  The Orange Fuhrer is at their front door, something they thought they would never again see in their lifetime.  Minds are blown, reality is not real, up is down and down is up....put yourself in these shoes right now, we should have some level of sympathy no?  Entertaining in some cases yes, sad in others....Some are taking it better than others, as I have said these past 3-4 years.....it will get worse before it gets better.  I was talking about "all of us" and yes, it is going to get worse still for some before it gets better for all.   It does help to talk about your problems, that's what is great about this forum.  Anyone can come in to the cess pool sub and feel welcome, its a place to share our feelings and in return, get that support you need.  We are here for you....Covers.com, healing brought to you by a loving group of degenerate gamblers

    agreed peace_5

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @scooby-doos  they are losing it.... think about it really.  Put yourself in their shoes.... Just a few short months ago there was no doubt in the minds of these people that Trump was going to be defeated by Jeo come November.  So much conviction, so much emotional investment these past 4 years.  Blindly ignoring in some cases and just blind in other cases, these people lived their lives for the hatred of another man they've never met all while morally and mentally following whatever the regime told them to believe.  I mean, these people literally lived and breathed for the obsessional fanaticism of a political figure that they opposed.  In conjunction with this, they carried this hate with them to those who supported their obsession.  To these people, anyone who did not "agree with their politics" was automatically lumped in with "MAGA" or the right.  It was either "all in" with me or "all out with you".  No democratic middle ground.   This was the environment just less than a short 8 weeks ago.  Think about all that has transpired since that May debate, with the culmination of this past week's events.   These people are BREAKING DOWN.  Mental and physical anguish of everything they believed (or chose to ignore) these past 4 years coming to a crashing halt.  The Orange Fuhrer is at their front door, something they thought they would never again see in their lifetime.  Minds are blown, reality is not real, up is down and down is up....put yourself in these shoes right now, we should have some level of sympathy no?  Entertaining in some cases yes, sad in others....Some are taking it better than others, as I have said these past 3-4 years.....it will get worse before it gets better.  I was talking about "all of us" and yes, it is going to get worse still for some before it gets better for all.   It does help to talk about your problems, that's what is great about this forum.  Anyone can come in to the cess pool sub and feel welcome, its a place to share our feelings and in return, get that support you need.  We are here for you....Covers.com, healing brought to you by a loving group of degenerate gamblers

    agreed peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2024 - 9:29 PM ET #454

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey

     

    an_light  As ranked by Liberals inside the survey

                            *Only the 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


    06  Barack Obama <--- guy the MAGAs HATE for some reason

    12  Bill Clinton
    13  Joe Biden  <---- ranked 42 spots better than trump! an_2drinks

    18  Ronald Reagan
    19  Jimmy Carter
    20  George H.W. Bush

        ~ Median of 45 ~

    28  Gerald Ford       thumbs_down
    33  George W. Bush  thumbs_down
    35  Richard Nixon  thumbs_down

     

        ~ huge gap ~


    45  an_laugh  trump  "the CONVICTED FELON"  an_bomb

     

    only reason trump is ranked 45 is bcuz thats all the presidents we had

    @KellyM_1964

    True. The survey experts were limited by that.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey

     

    an_light  As ranked by Liberals inside the survey

                            *Only the 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


    06  Barack Obama <--- guy the MAGAs HATE for some reason

    12  Bill Clinton
    13  Joe Biden  <---- ranked 42 spots better than trump! an_2drinks

    18  Ronald Reagan
    19  Jimmy Carter
    20  George H.W. Bush

        ~ Median of 45 ~

    28  Gerald Ford       thumbs_down
    33  George W. Bush  thumbs_down
    35  Richard Nixon  thumbs_down

     

        ~ huge gap ~


    45  an_laugh  trump  "the CONVICTED FELON"  an_bomb

     

    only reason trump is ranked 45 is bcuz thats all the presidents we had

    @KellyM_1964

    True. The survey experts were limited by that.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2024 - 9:59 PM ET #455

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: @scooby-doos  they are losing it.... think about it really.  Put yourself in their shoes.... Just a few short months ago there was no doubt in the minds of these people that Trump was going to be defeated by Jeo come November.  So much conviction, so much emotional investment these past 4 years.  Blindly ignoring in some cases and just blind in other cases, these people lived their lives for the hatred of another man they've never met all while morally and mentally following whatever the regime told them to believe.  I mean, these people literally lived and breathed for the obsessional fanaticism of a political figure that they opposed.  In conjunction with this, they carried this hate with them to those who supported their obsession.  To these people, anyone who did not "agree with their politics" was automatically lumped in with "MAGA" or the right.  It was either "all in" with me or "all out with you".  No democratic middle ground.   This was the environment just less than a short 8 weeks ago.  Think about all that has transpired since that May debate, with the culmination of this past week's events.   These people are BREAKING DOWN.  Mental and physical anguish of everything they believed (or chose to ignore) these past 4 years coming to a crashing halt.  The Orange Fuhrer is at their front door, something they thought they would never again see in their lifetime.  Minds are blown, reality is not real, up is down and down is up....put yourself in these shoes right now, we should have some level of sympathy no?  Entertaining in some cases yes, sad in others....Some are taking it better than others, as I have said these past 3-4 years.....it will get worse before it gets better.  I was talking about "all of us" and yes, it is going to get worse still for some before it gets better for all.   It does help to talk about your problems, that's what is great about this forum.  Anyone can come in to the cess pool sub and feel welcome, its a place to share our feelings and in return, get that support you need.  We are here for you....Covers.com, healing brought to you by a loving group of degenerate gamblers agreed

    yes they r breaking down thumbs_down

    hard to see them being able to come back from this

     

    i guess it will be just more antagonizing from them 

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: @scooby-doos  they are losing it.... think about it really.  Put yourself in their shoes.... Just a few short months ago there was no doubt in the minds of these people that Trump was going to be defeated by Jeo come November.  So much conviction, so much emotional investment these past 4 years.  Blindly ignoring in some cases and just blind in other cases, these people lived their lives for the hatred of another man they've never met all while morally and mentally following whatever the regime told them to believe.  I mean, these people literally lived and breathed for the obsessional fanaticism of a political figure that they opposed.  In conjunction with this, they carried this hate with them to those who supported their obsession.  To these people, anyone who did not "agree with their politics" was automatically lumped in with "MAGA" or the right.  It was either "all in" with me or "all out with you".  No democratic middle ground.   This was the environment just less than a short 8 weeks ago.  Think about all that has transpired since that May debate, with the culmination of this past week's events.   These people are BREAKING DOWN.  Mental and physical anguish of everything they believed (or chose to ignore) these past 4 years coming to a crashing halt.  The Orange Fuhrer is at their front door, something they thought they would never again see in their lifetime.  Minds are blown, reality is not real, up is down and down is up....put yourself in these shoes right now, we should have some level of sympathy no?  Entertaining in some cases yes, sad in others....Some are taking it better than others, as I have said these past 3-4 years.....it will get worse before it gets better.  I was talking about "all of us" and yes, it is going to get worse still for some before it gets better for all.   It does help to talk about your problems, that's what is great about this forum.  Anyone can come in to the cess pool sub and feel welcome, its a place to share our feelings and in return, get that support you need.  We are here for you....Covers.com, healing brought to you by a loving group of degenerate gamblers agreed

    yes they r breaking down thumbs_down

    hard to see them being able to come back from this

     

    i guess it will be just more antagonizing from them 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2024 - 10:04 PM ET #456

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey

     

    an_light  As ranked by Liberals inside the survey

       *Only the 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


    06  Barack Obama <--- guy the MAGAs HATE for some reason

    12  Bill Clinton
    13  Joe Biden  <---- ranked 42 spots better than trump! an_2drinks

    18  Ronald Reagan
    19  Jimmy Carter
    20  George H.W. Bush

        ~ Median of 45 ~

    28  Gerald Ford       thumbs_down
    33  George W. Bush  thumbs_down
    35  Richard Nixon  thumbs_down

     

        ~ huge gap ~


    45  an_laugh   trump  "the CONVICTED FELON"  an_bomb

    @fubah2 

     an_clap goodpost

    If we had 73 presidents, Trump would rank #73  an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey

     

    an_light  As ranked by Liberals inside the survey

       *Only the 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


    06  Barack Obama <--- guy the MAGAs HATE for some reason

    12  Bill Clinton
    13  Joe Biden  <---- ranked 42 spots better than trump! an_2drinks

    18  Ronald Reagan
    19  Jimmy Carter
    20  George H.W. Bush

        ~ Median of 45 ~

    28  Gerald Ford       thumbs_down
    33  George W. Bush  thumbs_down
    35  Richard Nixon  thumbs_down

     

        ~ huge gap ~


    45  an_laugh   trump  "the CONVICTED FELON"  an_bomb

    @fubah2 

     an_clap goodpost

    If we had 73 presidents, Trump would rank #73  an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2024 - 5:00 PM ET #457

    kamala harris team raised over $75 million since  joe backed out !!! surprised

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    kamala harris team raised over $75 million since  joe backed out !!! surprised

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2024 - 5:10 PM ET #458

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    kamala harris team raised over $75 million since  joe backed out !!!

    @KellyM_1964

     peace_5    

    Actually now over $81 MILLION and counting as we speak! 

    (see my new thread on Harris pro-democracy campaign)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    kamala harris team raised over $75 million since  joe backed out !!!

    @KellyM_1964

     peace_5    

    Actually now over $81 MILLION and counting as we speak! 

    (see my new thread on Harris pro-democracy campaign)

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2024 - 5:58 PM ET #459

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    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    moneybagloot

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2024 - 6:30 PM ET #460

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: kamala harris team raised over $75 million since  joe backed out !!! @KellyM_1964       Actually now over $81 MILLION and counting as we speak!  (see my new thread on Harris pro-democracy campaign)

     

    u go girl !!  thumbs_up 

     

    cheers for democracy !  an_cheers

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: kamala harris team raised over $75 million since  joe backed out !!! @KellyM_1964       Actually now over $81 MILLION and counting as we speak!  (see my new thread on Harris pro-democracy campaign)

     

    u go girl !!  thumbs_up 

     

    cheers for democracy !  an_cheers

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2024 - 6:37 PM ET #461

    @KellyM_1964

     u go girl !!

     

    OMG like ah mah gahd an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @KellyM_1964

     u go girl !!

     

    OMG like ah mah gahd an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     
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    cheers for democracy !  

     

    Did someone say "democracy" moose

    "Biden told his voters this might be the last election they’d have a democracy and now he’s canceled their votes and is letting party leadership select their candidate for them."

    What form of "democracy" is this again??  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    cheers for democracy !  

     

    Did someone say "democracy" moose

    "Biden told his voters this might be the last election they’d have a democracy and now he’s canceled their votes and is letting party leadership select their candidate for them."

    What form of "democracy" is this again??  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: kamala harris team raised over $75 million since  joe backed out !!! @KellyM_1964     

     

      Actually now over $81 MILLION and counting as we speak!  

     

    u go girl !!     

    cheers for democracy !

     

    an_2drinks  DEMOCRACY for AMERICA! Down with pro-fascism!

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: kamala harris team raised over $75 million since  joe backed out !!! @KellyM_1964     

     

      Actually now over $81 MILLION and counting as we speak!  

     

    u go girl !!     

    cheers for democracy !

     

    an_2drinks  DEMOCRACY for AMERICA! Down with pro-fascism!

     

     

     
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    @kcblitzkrieg

     Two things-

    First is if he stepped down (no matter the reason or by choice etc) then that sheds the issue about the responsibility of the primary voters count.

    Second, in the bylaws of the DNC it is technically allowed to step out of a vote especially due to a medical concern. I read that in an article since this Biden health stuff started taking center stage.

    So in both cases "democracy" has not been compromised, now you agreeing with Biden's reasoning that is for sure your right but it is not the deciding factor on the reality that he did make that decision.

     

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    @kcblitzkrieg

     Two things-

    First is if he stepped down (no matter the reason or by choice etc) then that sheds the issue about the responsibility of the primary voters count.

    Second, in the bylaws of the DNC it is technically allowed to step out of a vote especially due to a medical concern. I read that in an article since this Biden health stuff started taking center stage.

    So in both cases "democracy" has not been compromised, now you agreeing with Biden's reasoning that is for sure your right but it is not the deciding factor on the reality that he did make that decision.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2024 - 8:21 PM ET #466

    The top 15 of US Presidents in the overall
    Presidential Greatness Ratings & Rankings:

     

    1   Lincoln  win
    2   FDR
    3   Washington
    4   T.Roosevelt
    5   Jefferson
    6   Truman
    7   Barack Obama! an_clap
    8   Eisenhower
    9   LBJ
    10  Kennedy
    11  Madison
    12  Bill Clinton! an_clap
    13  J Adams
    14  President Joe Biden! an_clap
    15  Wilson

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    The top 15 of US Presidents in the overall
    Presidential Greatness Ratings & Rankings:

     

    1   Lincoln  win
    2   FDR
    3   Washington
    4   T.Roosevelt
    5   Jefferson
    6   Truman
    7   Barack Obama! an_clap
    8   Eisenhower
    9   LBJ
    10  Kennedy
    11  Madison
    12  Bill Clinton! an_clap
    13  J Adams
    14  President Joe Biden! an_clap
    15  Wilson

     
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    The Presidential Greatness Survey (2024) was conducted in late 2023 (Nov. 15 to Dec. 31) It is the most recent and most accurate particularly in regards to the two newest additions: trump and President Biden

    an_light https://presidentialgreatnessproject.com/

     

    The Siena College Survey was last conducted in 2022

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States#2022_Siena_College

     

    The C-span Survey was last conducted in 2021

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States#2021_C-SPAN

     

    **C-Span's last ranking (3 yrs ago) ranked trump as 4th worst.

    **Siena College latest ranking (2 yrs ago) ranked trump as 3rd worst.

    The new Presidential Greatness Survey ranked trump rock bottom!

     

    an_police Note: The former two presidential experts survey's cast their votes after trump's INSURRECTION attempt  but long BEFORE learning trump would

    - lose a very public defamation case where a jury agreed trump was guilty of RAPE!

    - be indicted by grand juries in 4 separate jurisdictions on 91 felonies including racketeering charges!!

    - be arrested with mugshot shown around the globe as GA. Inmate #P01135809 https://time.com/6308324/donald-trump-mug-shot-georgia/

    - lose a very public NY state FRAUD case where the charlatan was found GUILTY and penalized $464 MILLION

    - lose a 2nd incident of defamation where the penalty is over $80 MILLION damages

    *- found GUILTY by a NY jury on all 34 FELONY counts of even more CRIMINAL FRAUD (sentencing of the convicted felon has been put off to Sept. 18)

    *- also found GUILTY during the trial of "criminal contempt of court" multiple times (no word yet on sentencing)

    an_light*- nixed important bi-partisan BORDER legislation - led by MAGA-republican James Lankford - lauded by both sides including the Border Patrol union as a very helpful step addressing border issues (just so Biden is denied a win, and trump can campaign on "Biden's border crisis")

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    The Presidential Greatness Survey (2024) was conducted in late 2023 (Nov. 15 to Dec. 31) It is the most recent and most accurate particularly in regards to the two newest additions: trump and President Biden

    an_light https://presidentialgreatnessproject.com/

     

    The Siena College Survey was last conducted in 2022

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States#2022_Siena_College

     

    The C-span Survey was last conducted in 2021

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States#2021_C-SPAN

     

    **C-Span's last ranking (3 yrs ago) ranked trump as 4th worst.

    **Siena College latest ranking (2 yrs ago) ranked trump as 3rd worst.

    The new Presidential Greatness Survey ranked trump rock bottom!

     

    an_police Note: The former two presidential experts survey's cast their votes after trump's INSURRECTION attempt  but long BEFORE learning trump would

    - lose a very public defamation case where a jury agreed trump was guilty of RAPE!

    - be indicted by grand juries in 4 separate jurisdictions on 91 felonies including racketeering charges!!

    - be arrested with mugshot shown around the globe as GA. Inmate #P01135809 https://time.com/6308324/donald-trump-mug-shot-georgia/

    - lose a very public NY state FRAUD case where the charlatan was found GUILTY and penalized $464 MILLION

    - lose a 2nd incident of defamation where the penalty is over $80 MILLION damages

    *- found GUILTY by a NY jury on all 34 FELONY counts of even more CRIMINAL FRAUD (sentencing of the convicted felon has been put off to Sept. 18)

    *- also found GUILTY during the trial of "criminal contempt of court" multiple times (no word yet on sentencing)

    an_light*- nixed important bi-partisan BORDER legislation - led by MAGA-republican James Lankford - lauded by both sides including the Border Patrol union as a very helpful step addressing border issues (just so Biden is denied a win, and trump can campaign on "Biden's border crisis")

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2024 - 10:56 PM ET #468

    @fubah2

     goodpost

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     goodpost

     
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    Continuing ...

    So, 2 of those 3 major surveys by presidential experts (post #467 above) were made BEFORE any of that negativity about trump was known (all factual and archived!)

    And while the PG Survey in late 2023 did know about the rape, the fraud conviction and all those indictments/arrests, even their assessments ranking trump flat bottom were made BEFORE knowing the most recent trump activities in 2024, primarily, but not limited to:

     

    - lose a 2nd incident of defamation in same defamation/rape trial where the penalty is over $80 MILLION damages!

    *- found GUILTY by a NY jury on all 34 FELONY counts of even more CRIMINAL FRAUD (sentencing of the convicted felon has been put off to Sept. 18)

    *- also found GUILTY during the trial of "criminal contempt of court" multiple times (no word yet on sentencing)

    an_light*- nixed important bi-partisan BORDER legislation - led by MAGA-republican James Lankford - lauded by both sides including the Border Patrol union as a very helpful step addressing border issues (just so Biden is denied a win, and trump can campaign on "Biden's border crisis")

     

    As stated elsewhere, what is saving trump from being ranked so much lower is that we have only had 45 presidents, or he would surely be ranked MUCH LOWER in all 3 of those major EXPERTS' surveys.

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    Continuing ...

    So, 2 of those 3 major surveys by presidential experts (post #467 above) were made BEFORE any of that negativity about trump was known (all factual and archived!)

    And while the PG Survey in late 2023 did know about the rape, the fraud conviction and all those indictments/arrests, even their assessments ranking trump flat bottom were made BEFORE knowing the most recent trump activities in 2024, primarily, but not limited to:

     

    - lose a 2nd incident of defamation in same defamation/rape trial where the penalty is over $80 MILLION damages!

    *- found GUILTY by a NY jury on all 34 FELONY counts of even more CRIMINAL FRAUD (sentencing of the convicted felon has been put off to Sept. 18)

    *- also found GUILTY during the trial of "criminal contempt of court" multiple times (no word yet on sentencing)

    an_light*- nixed important bi-partisan BORDER legislation - led by MAGA-republican James Lankford - lauded by both sides including the Border Patrol union as a very helpful step addressing border issues (just so Biden is denied a win, and trump can campaign on "Biden's border crisis")

     

    As stated elsewhere, what is saving trump from being ranked so much lower is that we have only had 45 presidents, or he would surely be ranked MUCH LOWER in all 3 of those major EXPERTS' surveys.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2024 - 2:59 AM ET #470

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Continuing ... So, 2 of those 3 major surveys by presidential experts (post #467 above) were made BEFORE any of that negativity about trump was known (all factual and archived!) And while the PG Survey in late 2023 did know about the rape, the fraud conviction and all those indictments/arrests, even their assessments ranking trump flat bottom were made BEFORE knowing the most recent trump activities in 2024, primarily, but not limited to:   - lose a 2nd incident of defamation in same defamation/rape trial where the penalty is over $80 MILLION damages! *- found GUILTY by a NY jury on all 34 FELONY counts of even more CRIMINAL FRAUD (sentencing of the convicted felon has been put off to Sept. 18) *- also found GUILTY during the trial of "criminal contempt of court" multiple times (no word yet on sentencing) *- nixed important bi-partisan BORDER legislation - led by MAGA-republican James Lankford - lauded by both sides including the Border Patrol union as a very helpful step addressing border issues (just so Biden is denied a win, and trump can campaign on "Biden's border crisis")   As stated elsewhere, what is saving trump from being ranked so much lower is that we have only had 45 presidents, or he would surely be ranked MUCH LOWER in all 3 of those major EXPERTS' surveys.
    goodpost

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Continuing ... So, 2 of those 3 major surveys by presidential experts (post #467 above) were made BEFORE any of that negativity about trump was known (all factual and archived!) And while the PG Survey in late 2023 did know about the rape, the fraud conviction and all those indictments/arrests, even their assessments ranking trump flat bottom were made BEFORE knowing the most recent trump activities in 2024, primarily, but not limited to:   - lose a 2nd incident of defamation in same defamation/rape trial where the penalty is over $80 MILLION damages! *- found GUILTY by a NY jury on all 34 FELONY counts of even more CRIMINAL FRAUD (sentencing of the convicted felon has been put off to Sept. 18) *- also found GUILTY during the trial of "criminal contempt of court" multiple times (no word yet on sentencing) *- nixed important bi-partisan BORDER legislation - led by MAGA-republican James Lankford - lauded by both sides including the Border Patrol union as a very helpful step addressing border issues (just so Biden is denied a win, and trump can campaign on "Biden's border crisis")   As stated elsewhere, what is saving trump from being ranked so much lower is that we have only had 45 presidents, or he would surely be ranked MUCH LOWER in all 3 of those major EXPERTS' surveys.
    goodpost

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2024 - 10:37 AM ET #471

    In the spirit of my continued prognostications unfortunately coming true, here is another whopper.... 

     

    8 to 12 months from now, this very high IQ thread will be an updated copy & paste regurgitation of regime propaganda BS that reads like this: 

    06  Barack Obama <--- guy the MAGAs HATE for some reason

    12  Jeo Biden <---- sorry Bill, Jeo's sacrifices for the sake of "democracy" saved the Country 

    13 Bill Clinton 

    14 Kamala Harris <---- ranked 43 spots better than trump! moose

    18  Ronald Reagan
    19  Jimmy Carter
    20  George H.W. Bush

        ~ Median of 45 ~

    28  Gerald Ford       thumbs_down
    33  George W. Bush  thumbs_down
    35  Richard Nixon  thumbs_down

     

        ~ huge gap ~


    45  an_laugh   trump  "the CONVICTED FELON" 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    In the spirit of my continued prognostications unfortunately coming true, here is another whopper.... 

     

    8 to 12 months from now, this very high IQ thread will be an updated copy & paste regurgitation of regime propaganda BS that reads like this: 

    06  Barack Obama <--- guy the MAGAs HATE for some reason

    12  Jeo Biden <---- sorry Bill, Jeo's sacrifices for the sake of "democracy" saved the Country 

    13 Bill Clinton 

    14 Kamala Harris <---- ranked 43 spots better than trump! moose

    18  Ronald Reagan
    19  Jimmy Carter
    20  George H.W. Bush

        ~ Median of 45 ~

    28  Gerald Ford       thumbs_down
    33  George W. Bush  thumbs_down
    35  Richard Nixon  thumbs_down

     

        ~ huge gap ~


    45  an_laugh   trump  "the CONVICTED FELON" 

     
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    @wallstreetcappers

     

    Two things-

    First is if he stepped down (no matter the reason or by choice etc) then that sheds the issue about the responsibility of the primary voters count.

    Second, in the bylaws of the DNC it is technically allowed to step out of a vote especially due to a medical concern. I read that in an article since this Biden health stuff started taking center stage.

    So in both cases "democracy" has not been compromised, now you agreeing with Biden's reasoning that is for sure your right but it is not the deciding factor on the reality that he did make that decision.

     

    Whatever you want to tell yourself to help you sleep at night....  denial is not a river in Egypt.  

    Let me guess....  "Jeo's health condition was not compromised until just recently", like the day after the first debate right??  He has been a pillar of health and senility these past few years.  "It's unfortunate that all of a sudden he is no longer fit to run for President (but he his still fit to run the Country for the next 5 mos an_roll_laugh ) but we as a cohesive Democratic party must toe the line and support whatever narrative they are telling us"

    .... lemmings peace_5

     

    I gotta give some props though, as I've always said, nobody closes up ranks like the DNC.  They locked that shit down in a matter of 24 hours.  One day there was "no chance" of Jeo withdrawing (per his campaign) and the next day the regime handlers resigned him from the race.  Life comes at you fast I guess.  Poor Jill.  

    There was ZERO chance the regime was just gonna lay down and give up the power they so carefully orchestrated to regain since 2016.  I got the good receipts all over this place....first ballot HOF it will be an_wink

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Two things-

    First is if he stepped down (no matter the reason or by choice etc) then that sheds the issue about the responsibility of the primary voters count.

    Second, in the bylaws of the DNC it is technically allowed to step out of a vote especially due to a medical concern. I read that in an article since this Biden health stuff started taking center stage.

    So in both cases "democracy" has not been compromised, now you agreeing with Biden's reasoning that is for sure your right but it is not the deciding factor on the reality that he did make that decision.

     

    Whatever you want to tell yourself to help you sleep at night....  denial is not a river in Egypt.  

    Let me guess....  "Jeo's health condition was not compromised until just recently", like the day after the first debate right??  He has been a pillar of health and senility these past few years.  "It's unfortunate that all of a sudden he is no longer fit to run for President (but he his still fit to run the Country for the next 5 mos an_roll_laugh ) but we as a cohesive Democratic party must toe the line and support whatever narrative they are telling us"

    .... lemmings peace_5

     

    I gotta give some props though, as I've always said, nobody closes up ranks like the DNC.  They locked that shit down in a matter of 24 hours.  One day there was "no chance" of Jeo withdrawing (per his campaign) and the next day the regime handlers resigned him from the race.  Life comes at you fast I guess.  Poor Jill.  

    There was ZERO chance the regime was just gonna lay down and give up the power they so carefully orchestrated to regain since 2016.  I got the good receipts all over this place....first ballot HOF it will be an_wink

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @kcblitzkrieg  Two things- First is if he stepped down (no matter the reason or by choice etc) then that sheds the issue about the responsibility of the primary voters count.

    true fact  peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @kcblitzkrieg  Two things- First is if he stepped down (no matter the reason or by choice etc) then that sheds the issue about the responsibility of the primary voters count.

    true fact  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2024 - 5:03 PM ET #474

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @kcblitzkrieg  Two things- First is if he stepped down (no matter the reason or by choice etc) then that sheds the issue about the responsibility of the primary voters count. Second, in the bylaws of the DNC it is technically allowed to step out of a vote especially due to a medical concern. I read that in an article since this Biden health stuff started taking center stage.

    So in both cases "democracy" has not been compromised.

     

    also  true        and u score the main point                  peace_5    

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @kcblitzkrieg  Two things- First is if he stepped down (no matter the reason or by choice etc) then that sheds the issue about the responsibility of the primary voters count. Second, in the bylaws of the DNC it is technically allowed to step out of a vote especially due to a medical concern. I read that in an article since this Biden health stuff started taking center stage.

    So in both cases "democracy" has not been compromised.

     

    also  true        and u score the main point                  peace_5    

     

     

     

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The top
    7   Barack Obama! an_clap

    12  Bill Clinton! an_clap

    14  President Joe Biden! an_clap

    the 3 most recent dem presidents all ranked officially in top third in american history !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The top
    7   Barack Obama! an_clap

    12  Bill Clinton! an_clap

    14  President Joe Biden! an_clap

    the 3 most recent dem presidents all ranked officially in top third in american history !!

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