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Coming up,  and Obama's approval #'s are as low as they have ever been.  
Better start a war.  

 We will be at war with Syria and ISIS by next week. Fun fact, the Free Syrian Army is affiliated with ISIS.
At some point you have to start thinking that we just want perpetual war. 2 steps down the road there is a radical Islamic state in Iraq and Syria, and both will be created by us. 




 
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John Kerry stating today that the US will not cooperate with Iran to take out ISIS, kind of strange that we are going against the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" doctrine with Iran, when we are supporting it with the Free Syrian Army. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

Coming up,  and Obama's approval #'s are as low as they have ever been.  
Better start a war.  

 We will be at war with Syria and ISIS by next week. Fun fact, the Free Syrian Army is affiliated with ISIS.
At some point you have to start thinking that we just want perpetual war. 2 steps down the road there is a radical Islamic state in Iraq and Syria, and both will be created by us. 





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https://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?268395-ISIS-with-US-senetor-John-McCain

Imagine if Obama was the one in that picture instead of McCain?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

https://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?268395-ISIS-with-US-senetor-John-McCain

Imagine if Obama was the one in that picture instead of McCain?




Last year the Republicans lead by Faux News and Rush Limbaugh were clamoring for Obama to fund and arm these Rebels.
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Last year the Republicans lead by Faux News and Rush Limbaugh were clamoring for Obama to fund and arm these Rebels.

Limbaugh clamored for Obama to fund and arm the rebels..

He did say Obama conspired with Syria’s rebels to launch a false-flag chemical attack and blame it on Assad...it was Al Qaeda, posing as the Syrian rebels, to frame Bashar al-Assad ..

Rush also said that former secretary of state, Hillary Clinton,was out there saying that Obama's failure to aid Syrian rebels led to ISIS. 

 
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Actually a big mess.  I don't agree with his politics.  But BHO in a no-win situation.  I feel for the guys that have that job.  A heap of responsibilty that is so easy for everyone to second-guess you on.
 
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So this is a new war right?

I am not even sure I understand what the words war and warfare mean anymore. 

Is it going to be called a kinetic action,  if so what does that even mean. 


 
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He's an arrogant Harvard prick and deserves this mess.
The US of Entertainment is going to be one hell of a place if the US votes the repubs into power in November.
It will be investigation after investigation after investigation.......
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:




Last year the Republicans lead by Faux News and Rush Limbaugh were clamoring for Obama to fund and arm these Rebels.

Republicans want him to fund and arm Syrian rebels ... Democrats want him to fund and arm Syrian rebels ... Obama is going to fund and arm the Syrian rebels.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

Coming up,  and Obama's approval #'s are as low as they have ever been.  
Better start a war.  

 We will be at war with Syria and ISIS by next week. Fun fact, the Free Syrian Army is affiliated with ISIS.
At some point you have to start thinking that we just want perpetual war. 2 steps down the road there is a radical Islamic state in Iraq and Syria, and both will be created by us. 




So what would you specifically do?

You, along with the right wingers, will criticize if he wants more military action or less military action.

So what is your plan of action?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by chilitokid:

He's an arrogant Harvard prick and deserves this mess.
The US of Entertainment is going to be one hell of a place if the US votes the repubs into power in November.
It will be investigation after investigation after investigation.......

What has he done over there that you don't agree with?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

So what would you specifically do?

You, along with the right wingers, will criticize if he wants more military action or less military action.

So what is your plan of action? 



No action is good action at this point in time ...Obama's leading from behind has put the situation past the redemption point ..when the horse is out of the barn..their is nothing left to do but close the gate..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



No action is good action at this point in time ...Obama's leading from behind has put the situation past the redemption point ..when the horse is out of the barn..their is nothing left to do but close the gate..

There isn't a republican politician that agrees with "no action is good action at this point in time".

 
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Why are we backing the Syrian rebels instead of backing Assad? Does anyone know the answer to that?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Why are we backing the Syrian rebels instead of backing Assad? Does anyone know the answer to that?


Probably because three years ago Obama said "Assad must go" and called for President Bashar al-Assad to resign..and he didn't listen to Obama..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

So what would you specifically do?

You, along with the right wingers, will criticize if he wants more military action or less military action.

So what is your plan of action?

DJ. Where've you been?  Go to one of those nfl/rice things and explain to me the issue. Mainly nfl vs other businesses and vs police. Etc. is there legal stuff I am missing here o is it mostly PC and damage control?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



Probably because three years ago Obama said "Assad must go" and called for President Bashar al-Assad to resign..and he didn't listen to Obama..

Oh, ok. So that's why we trust Syrian rebels more than we trust Assad and the Syrian army? What about reports of the Syrian rebels joining ISIS?

 
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Oh, ok. So that's why we trust Syrian rebels more than we trust Assad and the Syrian army? What about reports of the Syrian rebels joining ISIS?

The Middle East what a snarly mess............

I have heard of the moderate Syrian rebels fighting Assad's army and fighting ISIS and Assad fighting ISIS and the moderate Syrian rebels ....and Western citizens joining ISIS and Western citizens joining the moderate Syrian rebels ..but nothing about the moderate Syrian rebels joining ISIS  ..

What do you have on that ?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

The Middle East what a snarly mess............

I have heard of the moderate Syrian rebels fighting Assad's army and fighting ISIS and Assad fighting ISIS and the moderate Syrian rebels ....and Western citizens joining ISIS and Western citizens joining the moderate Syrian rebels ..but nothing about the moderate Syrian rebels joining ISIS  ..

What do you have on that ?

Don't forget the Iraqi troops getting bullied by ISIS and losing a bunch of the military equipment we gave them.

I don't trust any of them.

Lets say we defeat ISIS in Iraq and Syria  ... Then we pull out our troops ... then what do you think will happen?

Do you think the moderate Syrian rebels are going to prevent another terrorist group from forming after we leave? Are the Syrian rebels going to fight Assad as well? Will the Iraqi troops all of a sudden be able to prevent a terror group from forming? What happens if Iran is the next safe haven for ISIS? Do we go into Iran as well?

 
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hmmmmm...how long has there been problems between Islam and Christianity  ...but but but we can certainly solve this mess.....does anyone see this ending well?.....

personally I say shut down the borders and prepare for the enemy within....

seriously, after all these wars do we really think we can go over there and stop ANYONE?  WTF

isn't hard to believe that that area will be in a cloud one of these decades

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

Actually a big mess.  I don't agree with his politics.  But BHO in a no-win situation.  I feel for the guys that have that job.  A heap of responsibilty that is so easy for everyone to second-guess you on.

Don't kid yourself.  O'bama never thought it would be so difficult .

This guy wanted the spotlight, and cares little about the responsibility that goes with it.  

Remember this...   He really thought he could "talk things out" with our enemies and  those that want to kill us.  And what about the "re-set" of Russian relations, etc.  His Apologetic Tour in 2009 for America's atrocities must have had Putin smiling. 

The guy is aloof, and never thought this would be so difficult.. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Why are we backing the Syrian rebels instead of backing Assad? Does anyone know the answer to that?



I'm not sure they know the difference. They need a scorecard.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:




I'm not sure they know the difference. They need a scorecard.

Syrian Armed Forces, National Defense Force, Syrian Resistance, Ba'ath Brigades, Hezbollah, Liwa Abu al-Fadhal al-Abbas, Badr Organization Kata'ib Hezbollah

vs

Islamic Front, Free Syrian Army, Al Nusra Front, Ajnad al Sham Islamic Union, Authenticity and Development Front, Army of Mujahedeen

vs

Islamic State

I think the US is going to back the middle group. The US doesn't like IS or Assad's Syrian Armed Forces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

What could possibly go wrong? We should solve that problem in no time. I'm sure they're going to be thrilled with the US hopping in the middle of a civil war.

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