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    fubah2
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 1:11 AM ET #1251

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Gas check-

     

    Unleaded 3.71 at QT (similar to Stuckey or Wawa etc)

    Must be nice to be King Mouth and have no accountability for laughable pied piper blabbering.

    an_light

    Yes.  And the National average is still significantly higher than when Biden left office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Gas check-

     

    Unleaded 3.71 at QT (similar to Stuckey or Wawa etc)

    Must be nice to be King Mouth and have no accountability for laughable pied piper blabbering.

    an_light

    Yes.  And the National average is still significantly higher than when Biden left office.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 2:38 AM ET #1252

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1]Military Honors for Ashley Babbitt is an absolute disgrace for all those who gave their lives for our country & not trying to overthrow it. To pretend her death deserves the same recognition for a fallen soldier is obscene. This proposal needs to be shit canned![/Quote

    the BLM Riots / Democrats      & J6

    500+ BLM riots (LEFTWING) vs 1 / J6 (RIGHTWING)

    Riots lasted 7 months , J6 a couple of hours

    BLM 20 + Murders , J6 1 murder , Ashley Babbitt

    BLM hundreds of small businesses destroyed , J6 none

    BLM 150+ Federal buildings damaged , J6 1 Federal Building damaged

    BLM 1-2 BILLION $ damage , J6 1.5 MILLION $ Damage

    BLM 2,040 Officers assaulted , J6  140 Officers assaulted

    BLM Protestors BAILED OUT by Dems , J6 Protestors KILLED by Police and kept in Solitary Confinement

    BLM encouraged by Dems and Media , J6 encouraged by fringe groups and Agitators

    BLM downplayed by the MEDIA , J6 exaggerated by the MEDIA

    BLM almost no investigations , J6 Congress investigated for 18 months

     

    Facts .

     

     

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1]Military Honors for Ashley Babbitt is an absolute disgrace for all those who gave their lives for our country & not trying to overthrow it. To pretend her death deserves the same recognition for a fallen soldier is obscene. This proposal needs to be shit canned![/Quote

    the BLM Riots / Democrats      & J6

    500+ BLM riots (LEFTWING) vs 1 / J6 (RIGHTWING)

    Riots lasted 7 months , J6 a couple of hours

    BLM 20 + Murders , J6 1 murder , Ashley Babbitt

    BLM hundreds of small businesses destroyed , J6 none

    BLM 150+ Federal buildings damaged , J6 1 Federal Building damaged

    BLM 1-2 BILLION $ damage , J6 1.5 MILLION $ Damage

    BLM 2,040 Officers assaulted , J6  140 Officers assaulted

    BLM Protestors BAILED OUT by Dems , J6 Protestors KILLED by Police and kept in Solitary Confinement

    BLM encouraged by Dems and Media , J6 encouraged by fringe groups and Agitators

    BLM downplayed by the MEDIA , J6 exaggerated by the MEDIA

    BLM almost no investigations , J6 Congress investigated for 18 months

     

    Facts .

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 3:44 AM ET #1253

    On average, police reports that black lives protests are mostly peaceful with no harm to people or property.  No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.  

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    On average, police reports that black lives protests are mostly peaceful with no harm to people or property.  No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 5:06 AM ET #1254

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On average, police reports that black lives protests are mostly peaceful with no harm to people or property.  No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.

     

      FACTS!      as usual, Thirdperson peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On average, police reports that black lives protests are mostly peaceful with no harm to people or property.  No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.

     

      FACTS!      as usual, Thirdperson peace_5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 11:57 AM ET #1255

    @Barbarossa

     So just curious to your perspective here, do you correlate BLM to a liberal scheme or DEI as a liberal scheme?

    The TNC/GOP seems to focus on outliers rather than core issues, for example grouping DEI to mean LGBT ONLY and to portray the effects of BLM riots as the sole outcome of the underlying condition.

    DEI is not a liberal scheme it is 100x more than the tiny LGBT group who seeks to find acceptance in their world and even MORE remote the small tiny sub section of LGBT that acts out and seeks attention in a bizarre way. I get it though, the TNC/GOP seeks to fabricate and exaggerate a very decent and valuable concept of DEI to grab votes and portray a larger group by an extremely small microscopic outlier.

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    @Barbarossa

     So just curious to your perspective here, do you correlate BLM to a liberal scheme or DEI as a liberal scheme?

    The TNC/GOP seems to focus on outliers rather than core issues, for example grouping DEI to mean LGBT ONLY and to portray the effects of BLM riots as the sole outcome of the underlying condition.

    DEI is not a liberal scheme it is 100x more than the tiny LGBT group who seeks to find acceptance in their world and even MORE remote the small tiny sub section of LGBT that acts out and seeks attention in a bizarre way. I get it though, the TNC/GOP seeks to fabricate and exaggerate a very decent and valuable concept of DEI to grab votes and portray a larger group by an extremely small microscopic outlier.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 5:12 PM ET #1256

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On average, police reports that black lives protests are mostly peaceful with no harm to people or property.  No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.
    an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On average, police reports that black lives protests are mostly peaceful with no harm to people or property.  No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 5:13 PM ET #1257

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Military Honors for Ashley Babbitt is an absolute disgrace for all those who gave their lives for our country & not trying to overthrow it. To pretend her death deserves the same recognition for a fallen soldier is obscene. This proposal needs to be shit canned![/Quote the BLM Riots / Democrats      & J6 500+ BLM riots (LEFTWING) vs 1 / J6 (RIGHTWING) Riots lasted 7 months , J6 a couple of hours BLM 20 + Murders , J6 1 murder , Ashley Babbitt BLM hundreds of small businesses destroyed , J6 none BLM 150+ Federal buildings damaged , J6 1 Federal Building damaged BLM 1-2 BILLION $ damage , J6 1.5 MILLION $ Damage BLM 2,040 Officers assaulted , J6  140 Officers assaulted BLM Protestors BAILED OUT by Dems , J6 Protestors KILLED by Police and kept in Solitary Confinement BLM encouraged by Dems and Media , J6 encouraged by fringe groups and Agitators BLM downplayed by the MEDIA , J6 exaggerated by the MEDIA BLM almost no investigations , J6 Congress investigated for 18 months   Facts .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Military Honors for Ashley Babbitt is an absolute disgrace for all those who gave their lives for our country & not trying to overthrow it. To pretend her death deserves the same recognition for a fallen soldier is obscene. This proposal needs to be shit canned![/Quote the BLM Riots / Democrats      & J6 500+ BLM riots (LEFTWING) vs 1 / J6 (RIGHTWING) Riots lasted 7 months , J6 a couple of hours BLM 20 + Murders , J6 1 murder , Ashley Babbitt BLM hundreds of small businesses destroyed , J6 none BLM 150+ Federal buildings damaged , J6 1 Federal Building damaged BLM 1-2 BILLION $ damage , J6 1.5 MILLION $ Damage BLM 2,040 Officers assaulted , J6  140 Officers assaulted BLM Protestors BAILED OUT by Dems , J6 Protestors KILLED by Police and kept in Solitary Confinement BLM encouraged by Dems and Media , J6 encouraged by fringe groups and Agitators BLM downplayed by the MEDIA , J6 exaggerated by the MEDIA BLM almost no investigations , J6 Congress investigated for 18 months   Facts .
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 5:15 PM ET #1258

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On average, police reports that black lives protests are mostly peaceful with no harm to people or property.  No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.
    Oh my..surely you jest...

    Just a quick Google search of: how much did January 6 cost taxpayers and how much did BLM movement cost taxpayers will yield contrasting beliefs than what was stated here. The BLM movement can be difficult to compute in terms of actual costs, but if you look at collectively and what transpired to communities and businesses and repairs the costs are in the billions. The cost for January 6 are in the millions and were centralized, primarily, in one locations, whereas BLM movement trickled throughout the US.

    Jus sayin..  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On average, police reports that black lives protests are mostly peaceful with no harm to people or property.  No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.
    Oh my..surely you jest...

    Just a quick Google search of: how much did January 6 cost taxpayers and how much did BLM movement cost taxpayers will yield contrasting beliefs than what was stated here. The BLM movement can be difficult to compute in terms of actual costs, but if you look at collectively and what transpired to communities and businesses and repairs the costs are in the billions. The cost for January 6 are in the millions and were centralized, primarily, in one locations, whereas BLM movement trickled throughout the US.

    Jus sayin..  

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 6:51 PM ET #1259

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On average, police reports that black lives protests are mostly peaceful with no harm to people or property.  No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.

    @thirdperson

    True.

    Of course.  an_clap 

    Thanks for the FACTS, thirdperson! peace_5 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On average, police reports that black lives protests are mostly peaceful with no harm to people or property.  No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.

    @thirdperson

    True.

    Of course.  an_clap 

    Thanks for the FACTS, thirdperson! peace_5 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 7:10 PM ET #1260

    @ABooksNightmare

     Why do you attribute the riots to the BLM group in general? Is there repeating, regular instances over an extended period of time that can be connected directly to the "movement" and are those in leadership positions of the "movement" that forward the riots?

    Over my lifetime there have been riots with many different causes or occasions including in Europe they have sports riots regularly and here we have them less regularly but still it happens like the King backlash and the BLM and white hooded riots etc etc and I have always attributed riots to opportunists not to a specific group and especially say in the last 30 years or so. The BLM riots from my perspective were people who took the opportunity to loot and steal because they COULD not that they were rioting and looting to forward the cause of Black Rights. The cost of the looting is not because of a peaceful protest but from people who saw the chance to break the law and steal knowing that the chances of being caught are less when there are many people already there, its a pure opportunistic scenario to me.

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    @ABooksNightmare

     Why do you attribute the riots to the BLM group in general? Is there repeating, regular instances over an extended period of time that can be connected directly to the "movement" and are those in leadership positions of the "movement" that forward the riots?

    Over my lifetime there have been riots with many different causes or occasions including in Europe they have sports riots regularly and here we have them less regularly but still it happens like the King backlash and the BLM and white hooded riots etc etc and I have always attributed riots to opportunists not to a specific group and especially say in the last 30 years or so. The BLM riots from my perspective were people who took the opportunity to loot and steal because they COULD not that they were rioting and looting to forward the cause of Black Rights. The cost of the looting is not because of a peaceful protest but from people who saw the chance to break the law and steal knowing that the chances of being caught are less when there are many people already there, its a pure opportunistic scenario to me.

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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 7:10 PM ET #1261

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

     

    Damage caused by attackers exceeded $2.7 million.

     

     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Minneapolis%E2%80%93Saint_Paul

     At cost of $350 million,[31] approximately 1,300 properties in Minneapolis were damaged by the civil unrest,[32] of which nearly 100 were entirely destroyed.[33] 

     

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

     

    Damage caused by attackers exceeded $2.7 million.

     

     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Minneapolis%E2%80%93Saint_Paul

     At cost of $350 million,[31] approximately 1,300 properties in Minneapolis were damaged by the civil unrest,[32] of which nearly 100 were entirely destroyed.[33] 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare 

    Why do you attribute the riots to the BLM group in general? Is there repeating, regular instances over an extended period of time that can be connected directly to the "movement" and are those in leadership positions of the "movement" that forward the riots?

    Over my lifetime there have been riots with many different causes or occasions including in Europe they have sports riots regularly and here we have them less regularly but still it happens like the King backlash and the BLM and white hooded riots etc etc and I have always attributed riots to opportunists not to a specific group and especially say in the last 30 years or so. The BLM riots from my perspective were people who took the opportunity to loot and steal because they COULD not that they were rioting and looting to forward the cause of Black Rights. The cost of the looting is not because of a peaceful protest but from people who saw the chance to break the law and steal knowing that the chances of being caught are less when there are many people already there, its a pure opportunistic scenario to me.

    BWDIK

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare 

    Why do you attribute the riots to the BLM group in general? Is there repeating, regular instances over an extended period of time that can be connected directly to the "movement" and are those in leadership positions of the "movement" that forward the riots?

    Over my lifetime there have been riots with many different causes or occasions including in Europe they have sports riots regularly and here we have them less regularly but still it happens like the King backlash and the BLM and white hooded riots etc etc and I have always attributed riots to opportunists not to a specific group and especially say in the last 30 years or so. The BLM riots from my perspective were people who took the opportunity to loot and steal because they COULD not that they were rioting and looting to forward the cause of Black Rights. The cost of the looting is not because of a peaceful protest but from people who saw the chance to break the law and steal knowing that the chances of being caught are less when there are many people already there, its a pure opportunistic scenario to me.

    BWDIK

     

     

    peace_5

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    @ABooksNightmare  Why do you attribute the riots to the BLM group in general? Is there repeating, regular instances over an extended period of time that can be connected directly to the "movement" and are those in leadership positions of the "movement" that forward the riots? Over my lifetime there have been riots with many different causes or occasions including in Europe they have sports riots regularly and here we have them less regularly but still it happens like the King backlash and the BLM and white hooded riots etc etc and I have always attributed riots to opportunists not to a specific group and especially say in the last 30 years or so. The BLM riots from my perspective were people who took the opportunity to loot and steal because they COULD not that they were rioting and looting to forward the cause of Black Rights. The cost of the looting is not because of a peaceful protest but from people who saw the chance to break the law and steal knowing that the chances of being caught are less when there are many people already there, its a pure opportunistic scenario to me. BWDIK

     

    I did not attribute anything to riots as you suggested in your response. I simply responded to a mistruth in a response posted by third. The BLM movement, which consisted of a multifaceted group. Yes, some of which were peaceful, but also some that were opportunists as you suggested. Nevertheless, the focus of the movement itself, and the detriment that ensued, was far more costly than that of January 6. And not by just a little, but by leaps and bounds in terms of destruction and damage and costs. Just by googling this you can determine that much and that was the significance of my post. Third claimed "No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property." If we define protest as all encompassing, which would include both peaceful and nonpeaceful, then this is not an accurate statement. Just as one would not be able to exclude the nonpeaceful protestors of January 6 should they have burned the city down to the ground in protest. If you start a fire and mean for it to be a small quaint fire to cook your burgers, but it then it gets out of hand and burns 100,000 acres does that make you less responsible. It does not. So, whether you were a peaceful protestor or an intentional antagonistic, they are were responsible for the damage and costs because it is the act of being there that caused it. As I stated, the costs associated with each event or movement is all encompassing to me.

     

    I would say the same about those that caused destruction out here in LA over the ICE situation. If you were out protesting peacefully and gave a platform for others to not be peaceful then the act or event itself is the cause of the damage and destruction. Sure, take away the act or event itself and you are left with people who are just there to cause damage and that would not be called peaceful or protesting would it. It would be called lawbreakers and out to cause intentional destruction. One leads into the other whether you are an opportunist or are there for a peaceful purposes against a cause. They all get lumped together. That's just way society is. If you cannot separate the good from the bad, yet it is surrounded around one cause, then it must be lumped together as one event in terms of destruction and damage. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  Why do you attribute the riots to the BLM group in general? Is there repeating, regular instances over an extended period of time that can be connected directly to the "movement" and are those in leadership positions of the "movement" that forward the riots? Over my lifetime there have been riots with many different causes or occasions including in Europe they have sports riots regularly and here we have them less regularly but still it happens like the King backlash and the BLM and white hooded riots etc etc and I have always attributed riots to opportunists not to a specific group and especially say in the last 30 years or so. The BLM riots from my perspective were people who took the opportunity to loot and steal because they COULD not that they were rioting and looting to forward the cause of Black Rights. The cost of the looting is not because of a peaceful protest but from people who saw the chance to break the law and steal knowing that the chances of being caught are less when there are many people already there, its a pure opportunistic scenario to me. BWDIK

     

    I did not attribute anything to riots as you suggested in your response. I simply responded to a mistruth in a response posted by third. The BLM movement, which consisted of a multifaceted group. Yes, some of which were peaceful, but also some that were opportunists as you suggested. Nevertheless, the focus of the movement itself, and the detriment that ensued, was far more costly than that of January 6. And not by just a little, but by leaps and bounds in terms of destruction and damage and costs. Just by googling this you can determine that much and that was the significance of my post. Third claimed "No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property." If we define protest as all encompassing, which would include both peaceful and nonpeaceful, then this is not an accurate statement. Just as one would not be able to exclude the nonpeaceful protestors of January 6 should they have burned the city down to the ground in protest. If you start a fire and mean for it to be a small quaint fire to cook your burgers, but it then it gets out of hand and burns 100,000 acres does that make you less responsible. It does not. So, whether you were a peaceful protestor or an intentional antagonistic, they are were responsible for the damage and costs because it is the act of being there that caused it. As I stated, the costs associated with each event or movement is all encompassing to me.

     

    I would say the same about those that caused destruction out here in LA over the ICE situation. If you were out protesting peacefully and gave a platform for others to not be peaceful then the act or event itself is the cause of the damage and destruction. Sure, take away the act or event itself and you are left with people who are just there to cause damage and that would not be called peaceful or protesting would it. It would be called lawbreakers and out to cause intentional destruction. One leads into the other whether you are an opportunist or are there for a peaceful purposes against a cause. They all get lumped together. That's just way society is. If you cannot separate the good from the bad, yet it is surrounded around one cause, then it must be lumped together as one event in terms of destruction and damage. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2025 - 8:06 PM ET #1264

    @UNIMAN

     

     The costs are far greater than that for each...

     

    January 6

    Estimated 40 million in security and repairs to the building

    Security enhancements of about 162 million for windows and doors

    520 million for the National Guard from January to May

    I am sure there are more costs, but again this is what comes up when you google what I proposed 

     

    BLM movement

     

    New York City 115 million over a two week period

    California 38.2 million in CHP additional costs and 25 million to deploy National Guard

    Minneapolis 500 million in emergency response, police, cleanup and repair costs. They also lost a whole precinct which cost 10 million to replace. A cost solely passed on to taxpayers.

    Los Angeles paid 119 million in settlements to police related actions during protests that were not peaceful

    Minneapolis paid 600 thousand to a journalist who was blinded during protests

    An estimated 132 lawsuits across the US resulted in nearly 150 million in settlements

    Kenosha, Wisconsin reported that 2 million in damages to public buildings and police vehicles

    Business costs and insurance claims are not even able to be calculated for private business losses

    Nationwide reported over 1 billion in claims for civil disturbance damages

    Minneapolis, St. Paul estimated about 500 million in property damages and 200 million of those were from uninsured owners

     

    Yes, not all factors can be considered, but this is just from a quick google search.

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     The costs are far greater than that for each...

     

    January 6

    Estimated 40 million in security and repairs to the building

    Security enhancements of about 162 million for windows and doors

    520 million for the National Guard from January to May

    I am sure there are more costs, but again this is what comes up when you google what I proposed 

     

    BLM movement

     

    New York City 115 million over a two week period

    California 38.2 million in CHP additional costs and 25 million to deploy National Guard

    Minneapolis 500 million in emergency response, police, cleanup and repair costs. They also lost a whole precinct which cost 10 million to replace. A cost solely passed on to taxpayers.

    Los Angeles paid 119 million in settlements to police related actions during protests that were not peaceful

    Minneapolis paid 600 thousand to a journalist who was blinded during protests

    An estimated 132 lawsuits across the US resulted in nearly 150 million in settlements

    Kenosha, Wisconsin reported that 2 million in damages to public buildings and police vehicles

    Business costs and insurance claims are not even able to be calculated for private business losses

    Nationwide reported over 1 billion in claims for civil disturbance damages

    Minneapolis, St. Paul estimated about 500 million in property damages and 200 million of those were from uninsured owners

     

    Yes, not all factors can be considered, but this is just from a quick google search.

    an_light

     

     

     

     
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     Not a fair conclusion but of course we are all different and all entitled to our opinions. It would be akin to saying that every single J6 dope was there to cause criminal damage and sought an opportunity to kill someone or that the NRA knowingly forwards that gun owners should go poke a gun into a church and kill people and that they support it.

    People seek opportunity to cheat, steal, harm and do bad things and when those opportunities come they will take them not respective of what the cause is or their political affiliation.

    JMHO as always.

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    @ABooksNightmare

     Not a fair conclusion but of course we are all different and all entitled to our opinions. It would be akin to saying that every single J6 dope was there to cause criminal damage and sought an opportunity to kill someone or that the NRA knowingly forwards that gun owners should go poke a gun into a church and kill people and that they support it.

    People seek opportunity to cheat, steal, harm and do bad things and when those opportunities come they will take them not respective of what the cause is or their political affiliation.

    JMHO as always.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare 

    Why do you attribute the riots to the BLM group in general? Is there repeating, regular instances over an extended period of time that can be connected directly to the "movement" and are those in leadership positions of the "movement" that forward the riots?

    Over my lifetime there have been riots with many different causes or occasions including in Europe they have sports riots regularly and here we have them less regularly but still it happens like the King backlash and the BLM and white hooded riots etc etc and I have always attributed riots to opportunists not to a specific group and especially say in the last 30 years or so. The BLM riots from my perspective were people who took the opportunity to loot and steal because they COULD not that they were rioting and looting to forward the cause of Black Rights. The cost of the looting is not because of a peaceful protest but from people who saw the chance to break the law and steal knowing that the chances of being caught are less when there are many people already there, its a pure opportunistic scenario to me.

    BWDIK

     

    Of course an immediate/logical question comes to mind:

     

    an_ref On who's watch did all those nation-wide-protests take place?! 

     

    Those coming after a WHITE police officer was responsible (on video) for the brutalized death of a non-violent, UNarmed BLACK man, handcuffed and face pushed into the pavement, begging for his life.   

    peace RIP George Floyd 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare 

    Why do you attribute the riots to the BLM group in general? Is there repeating, regular instances over an extended period of time that can be connected directly to the "movement" and are those in leadership positions of the "movement" that forward the riots?

    Over my lifetime there have been riots with many different causes or occasions including in Europe they have sports riots regularly and here we have them less regularly but still it happens like the King backlash and the BLM and white hooded riots etc etc and I have always attributed riots to opportunists not to a specific group and especially say in the last 30 years or so. The BLM riots from my perspective were people who took the opportunity to loot and steal because they COULD not that they were rioting and looting to forward the cause of Black Rights. The cost of the looting is not because of a peaceful protest but from people who saw the chance to break the law and steal knowing that the chances of being caught are less when there are many people already there, its a pure opportunistic scenario to me.

    BWDIK

     

    Of course an immediate/logical question comes to mind:

     

    an_ref On who's watch did all those nation-wide-protests take place?! 

     

    Those coming after a WHITE police officer was responsible (on video) for the brutalized death of a non-violent, UNarmed BLACK man, handcuffed and face pushed into the pavement, begging for his life.   

    peace RIP George Floyd 

     
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     Fact… As an active participant of a violent mob, she  “ Ashley Babbitt“ was ordered, by an officer with gun drawn, not to enter a secure area. She ignored this! She died because she attempted to cross the last defensive line between the insurrectionists and politicians the police were protecting.

    She wasn't killed for the threat that she posed on her own. She was shot because the outmanned group of police lost their ability to safely evacuate and needed to hold the defensive position against her and the scores of people she was with (and the hundreds more who would have followed).……. Trump during his sore loser speech pushed her button and she behaved just as he hoped for!

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     Fact… As an active participant of a violent mob, she  “ Ashley Babbitt“ was ordered, by an officer with gun drawn, not to enter a secure area. She ignored this! She died because she attempted to cross the last defensive line between the insurrectionists and politicians the police were protecting.

    She wasn't killed for the threat that she posed on her own. She was shot because the outmanned group of police lost their ability to safely evacuate and needed to hold the defensive position against her and the scores of people she was with (and the hundreds more who would have followed).……. Trump during his sore loser speech pushed her button and she behaved just as he hoped for!

     
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     Don't forget the cost of producing the Hollywood Jan 6th show trail.

    Really, digging up total costs can go on and on. My response was to this statement;

     No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.  

     

    Am sure the wife of Minnesota's governor would have been disappointed with the lack of burning tires smell at Jan 6th.

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     Don't forget the cost of producing the Hollywood Jan 6th show trail.

    Really, digging up total costs can go on and on. My response was to this statement;

     No single BLM protest has ever been as violent or costly as January 6 riot in causing injuries and damage to property.  

     

    Am sure the wife of Minnesota's governor would have been disappointed with the lack of burning tires smell at Jan 6th.

     
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     The Seattle CHOP incident was costly/deadly than the Jan. 6th.

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     The Seattle CHOP incident was costly/deadly than the Jan. 6th.

     
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    Goose-stepping FOX anchor Harris Faulkner,
    calls Trump's agenda “his divine assignment”

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    Goose-stepping FOX anchor Harris Faulkner,
    calls Trump's agenda “his divine assignment”

     
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    Speaker Johnson on his Deadbeat Donnie FBI informant comment "He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down."

    Now the feckless coward said "I don't know if I used the right terminology."

    Here, I'll help you with the terminology.

    YOU LIED TO EVERYONE & YOU GOT CAUGHT!

    And you are a fake Christian protecting a bunch of pedophiles. 

     

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    Speaker Johnson on his Deadbeat Donnie FBI informant comment "He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down."

    Now the feckless coward said "I don't know if I used the right terminology."

    Here, I'll help you with the terminology.

    YOU LIED TO EVERYONE & YOU GOT CAUGHT!

    And you are a fake Christian protecting a bunch of pedophiles. 

     

     
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    Reporter: He said, "If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this is crime." Exactly what crime was the president referring to?

    Leavitt: He wasn't referring to crimes. That's the point he was making. He's saying the crimes will be made up and reported as a crime to undermine the great work the task force is doing.

    So in other words, she said what the Orange Ogre meant is that women in DC are falsely reporting domestic violence against them just to make him look bad on his crime stats. 

    He is always the victim.

     

     

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    Reporter: He said, "If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this is crime." Exactly what crime was the president referring to?

    Leavitt: He wasn't referring to crimes. That's the point he was making. He's saying the crimes will be made up and reported as a crime to undermine the great work the task force is doing.

    So in other words, she said what the Orange Ogre meant is that women in DC are falsely reporting domestic violence against them just to make him look bad on his crime stats. 

    He is always the victim.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Reporter: He said, "If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this is crime." Exactly what crime was the president referring to?

    Leavitt: He wasn't referring to crimes. That's the point he was making. He's saying the crimes will be made up and reported as a crime to undermine the great work the task force is doing.

    So in other words, she said what the Orange Ogre meant is that women in DC are falsely reporting domestic violence against them just to make him look bad on his crime stats.

    He is always the victim.

    new_jaw_drop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Reporter: He said, "If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this is crime." Exactly what crime was the president referring to?

    Leavitt: He wasn't referring to crimes. That's the point he was making. He's saying the crimes will be made up and reported as a crime to undermine the great work the task force is doing.

    So in other words, she said what the Orange Ogre meant is that women in DC are falsely reporting domestic violence against them just to make him look bad on his crime stats.

    He is always the victim.

    new_jaw_drop

     
     
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    Thoughts of Kellyanne's hubby..

    "The narrative is that Epstein was a sexual predator of young girls; that Trump had said publicly that Epstein liked females "on the younger side" and that Epstein was a "terrific guy"; that Trump sent Epstein a card for the latter's 50th birthday that alluded to mutually shared secrets and contained a sketch of what appears to be a prepubescent female; that the Trump campaign and administration promised repeatedly to release the Epstein investigatory files; that FBI agents reviewed the files and found that Trump was mentioned in the files; that Trump was told he was in the files; that the Trump administration, for reasons not clearly articulated, did a 180 on producing the files and is producing only a tiny portion of them; that Donald Trump sued the WSJ alleging that the birthday card didn't exist; and that the birthday card in fact exists and was released by Epstein's estate and was clearly signed by Trump."

    You know when people will stop talking about the files?

    When they release ALL the files!

     

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    Thoughts of Kellyanne's hubby..

    "The narrative is that Epstein was a sexual predator of young girls; that Trump had said publicly that Epstein liked females "on the younger side" and that Epstein was a "terrific guy"; that Trump sent Epstein a card for the latter's 50th birthday that alluded to mutually shared secrets and contained a sketch of what appears to be a prepubescent female; that the Trump campaign and administration promised repeatedly to release the Epstein investigatory files; that FBI agents reviewed the files and found that Trump was mentioned in the files; that Trump was told he was in the files; that the Trump administration, for reasons not clearly articulated, did a 180 on producing the files and is producing only a tiny portion of them; that Donald Trump sued the WSJ alleging that the birthday card didn't exist; and that the birthday card in fact exists and was released by Epstein's estate and was clearly signed by Trump."

    You know when people will stop talking about the files?

    When they release ALL the files!

     

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