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    Global warming :: is it just a 'chinese hoax' like trump told us or is it serious?

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    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2022 - 10:06 AM ET #426

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fox news Carlson falsely claims winter kills more people than hot weather in trying to downplay threat of global warming.  Worldwide, heat waves kill more people than either floods, hurricanes, tornados, blizzards or extreme cold according to National weather service.  Far more people have the ability to heat their environment when it's cold than to cool their environment when it's hot.  Center for disease control says heat deaths are under counted because they are often counted as stroke or heart attack.  Problem is expected to worsen in future years as climate change increase risk of extreme weather.

    Based on my research, this is a lie, a falsehood, disinformation.

    Carlson was CORRECT based upon a study published The Lancet Planetary Health, July 2021.

    That study concluded from 2000-2019 a total of 5.08 million people have died from extreme temperatures. Of that, 4.6 million died from extreme cold. 

    https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/climate-change/extreme-temperatures-kill-5-million-a-year-20-year-study-77875

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext

    So here is some more you need to discredit on wikipedia, better get busy!

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fox news Carlson falsely claims winter kills more people than hot weather in trying to downplay threat of global warming.  Worldwide, heat waves kill more people than either floods, hurricanes, tornados, blizzards or extreme cold according to National weather service.  Far more people have the ability to heat their environment when it's cold than to cool their environment when it's hot.  Center for disease control says heat deaths are under counted because they are often counted as stroke or heart attack.  Problem is expected to worsen in future years as climate change increase risk of extreme weather.

    Based on my research, this is a lie, a falsehood, disinformation.

    Carlson was CORRECT based upon a study published The Lancet Planetary Health, July 2021.

    That study concluded from 2000-2019 a total of 5.08 million people have died from extreme temperatures. Of that, 4.6 million died from extreme cold. 

    https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/climate-change/extreme-temperatures-kill-5-million-a-year-20-year-study-77875

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext

    So here is some more you need to discredit on wikipedia, better get busy!

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2022 - 8:58 PM ET #427

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Bjorn Lomborg latest book is “False Alarm: How Climate-Change Panic Costs Us Trillions, Hurts the Poor and Fails to Fix the Planet.”   According to wikipedia, Lomborg is a controversial economist and non-scientist who offers non-expert opinions on climate change.  His articles in Wall street journal are rated low in scientific credibility by Climate feedback the worldwide network of scientists who assess climate change media coverage.  Scientists have accused him of cherry picking data to misrepresent their research about climate policies.  After investigating complaints, Danish committee of scientific dishonesty concludes Lomborg misinterprets results beyond the conclusions of authors he cited.

     

    Yep, according to quacks like him, pumping billions of tonnes of carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere annually from human activity is just fine and won't cause anything bad. Reassure the greedy, self-centered people, make money. Heard this many times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Bjorn Lomborg latest book is “False Alarm: How Climate-Change Panic Costs Us Trillions, Hurts the Poor and Fails to Fix the Planet.”   According to wikipedia, Lomborg is a controversial economist and non-scientist who offers non-expert opinions on climate change.  His articles in Wall street journal are rated low in scientific credibility by Climate feedback the worldwide network of scientists who assess climate change media coverage.  Scientists have accused him of cherry picking data to misrepresent their research about climate policies.  After investigating complaints, Danish committee of scientific dishonesty concludes Lomborg misinterprets results beyond the conclusions of authors he cited.

     

    Yep, according to quacks like him, pumping billions of tonnes of carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere annually from human activity is just fine and won't cause anything bad. Reassure the greedy, self-centered people, make money. Heard this many times...

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2022 - 5:19 PM ET #428

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    rising temperatures likely are saving lives.

    Climate feedback scientists found Lomborg's claim that climate change save lives is unsupported by evidence.  First, United nations IPCC report that it is unclear warmer winters reduce deaths.  Lomborg's claim that cold kills more people is misleading because evidences show rising temperatures increase heat mortality with little change to cold mortality in many countries. 

    Secondly, even if cold deaths outnumber heat deaths, that doesn't mean warmer winters reduce deaths.  For example, european countries with warmer climates have higher cold mortality.  Cold temperature isn't the main cause of death in winter because of improved living conditions.  More plausible causes include influenza, cancer and cardiovascular disease. However heat deaths are more dependent on temperature.  Humans tolerate cold better than heat.

    Third, Lomborg has no training in climate science and health science.  So he often misinterprets the research of real scientists.  He ignores reasons for how climate change kill such as via drought, food insecurity, floods, diseases, storms, stress, wildfires and air quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    rising temperatures likely are saving lives.

    Climate feedback scientists found Lomborg's claim that climate change save lives is unsupported by evidence.  First, United nations IPCC report that it is unclear warmer winters reduce deaths.  Lomborg's claim that cold kills more people is misleading because evidences show rising temperatures increase heat mortality with little change to cold mortality in many countries. 

    Secondly, even if cold deaths outnumber heat deaths, that doesn't mean warmer winters reduce deaths.  For example, european countries with warmer climates have higher cold mortality.  Cold temperature isn't the main cause of death in winter because of improved living conditions.  More plausible causes include influenza, cancer and cardiovascular disease. However heat deaths are more dependent on temperature.  Humans tolerate cold better than heat.

    Third, Lomborg has no training in climate science and health science.  So he often misinterprets the research of real scientists.  He ignores reasons for how climate change kill such as via drought, food insecurity, floods, diseases, storms, stress, wildfires and air quality.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2022 - 6:42 PM ET #429

    "The prolonged droughts that we're seeing [present] some
    increased risk that inflation remains higher for a longer time,"
    said Charlie Dougherty, a Wells Fargo economist who recently
    co-authored a status report on the economic state of
    American agriculture.
    The high heat and drought have only compounded the
    issues facing American farmers, including supply chain
    ripple effects from Russia's war against Ukraine that have
    caused inputs such as fertilizer to surge in price; nationwide
    worker shortages; and inflation and high energy prices,
    the economists noted.

    "When you've put all that together, farmers and ranchers
    have experienced extraordinary cost pressures," Dougherty said.
    "And those higher costs are being passed on to consumers."

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    "The prolonged droughts that we're seeing [present] some
    increased risk that inflation remains higher for a longer time,"
    said Charlie Dougherty, a Wells Fargo economist who recently
    co-authored a status report on the economic state of
    American agriculture.
    The high heat and drought have only compounded the
    issues facing American farmers, including supply chain
    ripple effects from Russia's war against Ukraine that have
    caused inputs such as fertilizer to surge in price; nationwide
    worker shortages; and inflation and high energy prices,
    the economists noted.

    "When you've put all that together, farmers and ranchers
    have experienced extraordinary cost pressures," Dougherty said.
    "And those higher costs are being passed on to consumers."

     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2022 - 7:41 PM ET #430

     

     

    AUGUST 2021;

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: cut from cnn business ::  Extreme weather is here to stay The rise in food prices can be partly driven by other factors   93% of wheat in poor condition in Washington StateWheat prices are going up in part due to "concerns over dry weather and crop conditions in North America," according to the UN food agency. Specifically, droughts in Canada and the Northwestern part of the United States have wiped out wheat crops.The most recent crop report published by the USDA found that just 11% of spring wheat across six US states is in good to excellent condition. That's down from 69% a year ago. In Washington State, a staggering 93% of the spring wheat is in poor or very poor condition because of droughts, according to the Drought Monitor."It's been cooked. Day in and day out they're getting temperatures they've never seen before," Yawger said.
      an_police     surprised  an_getaway  an_nailbiter  an_blowhorn

    BLOOMBERG JULY 2022; 

    US Poised to Deliver Bumper Wheat Crop 

    sleep2sleep2sleep2

     

     

     

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    AUGUST 2021;

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: cut from cnn business ::  Extreme weather is here to stay The rise in food prices can be partly driven by other factors   93% of wheat in poor condition in Washington StateWheat prices are going up in part due to "concerns over dry weather and crop conditions in North America," according to the UN food agency. Specifically, droughts in Canada and the Northwestern part of the United States have wiped out wheat crops.The most recent crop report published by the USDA found that just 11% of spring wheat across six US states is in good to excellent condition. That's down from 69% a year ago. In Washington State, a staggering 93% of the spring wheat is in poor or very poor condition because of droughts, according to the Drought Monitor."It's been cooked. Day in and day out they're getting temperatures they've never seen before," Yawger said.
      an_police     surprised  an_getaway  an_nailbiter  an_blowhorn

    BLOOMBERG JULY 2022; 

    US Poised to Deliver Bumper Wheat Crop 

    sleep2sleep2sleep2

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2022 - 7:53 PM ET #431

     

     

    OCTOBER 2021;

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: NASA - The Effects of Climate Change Effects that scientists had predicted in the past would result from global climate change are now occurring: loss of sea ice, accelerated sea level rise and longer, more intense heat waves. Scientists have high confidence that global temperatures will continue to rise for decades to come, largely due to greenhouse gases produced by human activities. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which includes more than 1,300 scientists from the United Statesand other countries, forecasts a life-altering temperature rise of 2.5 to 10 degrees Fahrenheit over the next century! Some of the long-term effects of global climate change in the United States are as follows, according to the Third and Fourth National Climate Assessment Reports: - More Droughts and Heat Waves - Hurricanes Will Become Stronger and More Intense - Sea Level Will Rise 1-8 feet by 2100
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    SEPTEMBER 2022;

    "This should be the absolute peak of hurricane season—but it’s dead quiet out there"

    sleep2sleep2sleep2

     

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    OCTOBER 2021;

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: NASA - The Effects of Climate Change Effects that scientists had predicted in the past would result from global climate change are now occurring: loss of sea ice, accelerated sea level rise and longer, more intense heat waves. Scientists have high confidence that global temperatures will continue to rise for decades to come, largely due to greenhouse gases produced by human activities. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which includes more than 1,300 scientists from the United Statesand other countries, forecasts a life-altering temperature rise of 2.5 to 10 degrees Fahrenheit over the next century! Some of the long-term effects of global climate change in the United States are as follows, according to the Third and Fourth National Climate Assessment Reports: - More Droughts and Heat Waves - Hurricanes Will Become Stronger and More Intense - Sea Level Will Rise 1-8 feet by 2100
     surprisedan_getaway

    SEPTEMBER 2022;

    "This should be the absolute peak of hurricane season—but it’s dead quiet out there"

    sleep2sleep2sleep2

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2022 - 10:26 PM ET #432

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    "The prolonged droughts that we're seeing [present] some increased risk that inflation remains higher for a longer time," said Charlie Dougherty, a Wells Fargo economist who recently co-authored a status report on the economic state of American agriculture.The high heat and drought have only compounded the issues facing American farmers, including supply chain ripple effects from Russia's war against Ukraine that have caused inputs such as fertilizer to surge in price; nationwide worker shortages; and inflation and high energy prices, the economists noted. "When you've put all that together, farmers and ranchers have experienced extraordinary cost pressures," Dougherty said. "And those higher costs are being passed on to consumers."

    That is adding to inflation.   Every intelligent person with at least a 110 IQ  understands this much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    "The prolonged droughts that we're seeing [present] some increased risk that inflation remains higher for a longer time," said Charlie Dougherty, a Wells Fargo economist who recently co-authored a status report on the economic state of American agriculture.The high heat and drought have only compounded the issues facing American farmers, including supply chain ripple effects from Russia's war against Ukraine that have caused inputs such as fertilizer to surge in price; nationwide worker shortages; and inflation and high energy prices, the economists noted. "When you've put all that together, farmers and ranchers have experienced extraordinary cost pressures," Dougherty said. "And those higher costs are being passed on to consumers."

    That is adding to inflation.   Every intelligent person with at least a 110 IQ  understands this much.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2022 - 11:26 AM ET #433

    Amazing how climate change causes inflation, only when democrats are in charge. an_eek2

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    Amazing how climate change causes inflation, only when democrats are in charge. an_eek2

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2022 - 1:42 PM ET #434

    BLOOMBERG JULY 2022; 

     

    US Poised to Deliver Bumper Wheat Crop 

    Really.

    Cause there is a perceived shortages of grain. Ukraine conflict related. 

    The price of wheat has tripled.

    Go get em tiger and good work uncovering a profitable position.

    They paying triple we have a surplus.

    sleep2 dreaming.

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    BLOOMBERG JULY 2022; 

     

    US Poised to Deliver Bumper Wheat Crop 

    Really.

    Cause there is a perceived shortages of grain. Ukraine conflict related. 

    The price of wheat has tripled.

    Go get em tiger and good work uncovering a profitable position.

    They paying triple we have a surplus.

    sleep2 dreaming.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2022 - 8:27 PM ET #435

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    OCTOBER 2021; Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: NASA - The Effects of Climate Change Effects that scientists had predicted in the past would result from global climate change are now occurring:  according to the Third and Fourth National Climate Assessment Reports: - More Droughts and Heat Waves - Hurricanes Will Become Stronger and More Intense -   SEPTEMBER 2022; "This should be the absolute peak of hurricane season—but it’s dead quiet out there"

    Weather is short term but climate involves decades.  NASA reports that since the 1980s, there has been stronger hurricanes.  More intense rainfall and flooding.  For example, almost one-third of Pakistan has recently become underwater.   Not all countries are equally impacted by climate change which affects some countries more than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    OCTOBER 2021; Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: NASA - The Effects of Climate Change Effects that scientists had predicted in the past would result from global climate change are now occurring:  according to the Third and Fourth National Climate Assessment Reports: - More Droughts and Heat Waves - Hurricanes Will Become Stronger and More Intense -   SEPTEMBER 2022; "This should be the absolute peak of hurricane season—but it’s dead quiet out there"

    Weather is short term but climate involves decades.  NASA reports that since the 1980s, there has been stronger hurricanes.  More intense rainfall and flooding.  For example, almost one-third of Pakistan has recently become underwater.   Not all countries are equally impacted by climate change which affects some countries more than others.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2022 - 10:13 PM ET #436

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: "The prolonged droughts that we're seeing [present] some increased risk that inflation remains higher for a longer time," said Charlie Dougherty, a Wells Fargo economist who recently co-authored a status report on the economic state of American agriculture.The high heat and drought have only compounded the issues facing American farmers, including supply chain ripple effects from Russia's war against Ukraine that have caused inputs such as fertilizer to surge in price; nationwide worker shortages; and inflation and high energy prices, the economists noted. "When you've put all that together, farmers and ranchers have experienced extraordinary cost pressures," Dougherty said. "And those higher costs are being passed on to consumers." That is adding to inflation.   Every intelligent person with at least a 110 IQ  understands this much.

    That's accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: "The prolonged droughts that we're seeing [present] some increased risk that inflation remains higher for a longer time," said Charlie Dougherty, a Wells Fargo economist who recently co-authored a status report on the economic state of American agriculture.The high heat and drought have only compounded the issues facing American farmers, including supply chain ripple effects from Russia's war against Ukraine that have caused inputs such as fertilizer to surge in price; nationwide worker shortages; and inflation and high energy prices, the economists noted. "When you've put all that together, farmers and ranchers have experienced extraordinary cost pressures," Dougherty said. "And those higher costs are being passed on to consumers." That is adding to inflation.   Every intelligent person with at least a 110 IQ  understands this much.

    That's accurate.

     
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    @UNIMAN

     SEPTEMBER 2022;

    sleep2sleep2sleep2

    Are you happy now? Have you seen Puerto Rico? Do you see what is headed for Florida early next week?

    Never underestimate Mother Nature!

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    @UNIMAN

     SEPTEMBER 2022;

    sleep2sleep2sleep2

    Are you happy now? Have you seen Puerto Rico? Do you see what is headed for Florida early next week?

    Never underestimate Mother Nature!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  SEPTEMBER 2022; Are you happy now? Have you seen Puerto Rico? Do you see what is headed for Florida early next week? Never underestimate Mother Nature!

     

    Should tell those people in FL to stop driving gas cars and buy over priced electric cars. That'll stop all the damn hurricanes. University of Miami can change their name once everyone stops driving those damn gas powered cars. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  SEPTEMBER 2022; Are you happy now? Have you seen Puerto Rico? Do you see what is headed for Florida early next week? Never underestimate Mother Nature!

     

    Should tell those people in FL to stop driving gas cars and buy over priced electric cars. That'll stop all the damn hurricanes. University of Miami can change their name once everyone stops driving those damn gas powered cars. 

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2022 - 10:08 PM ET #439

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  SEPTEMBER 2022; Are you happy now? Have you seen Puerto Rico? Do you see what is headed for Florida early next week? Never underestimate Mother Nature!

     

    not so long ago donnie chump suggested we nuke hurricanes to stop them

    whatta dummy  an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  SEPTEMBER 2022; Are you happy now? Have you seen Puerto Rico? Do you see what is headed for Florida early next week? Never underestimate Mother Nature!

     

    not so long ago donnie chump suggested we nuke hurricanes to stop them

    whatta dummy  an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2022 - 10:30 PM ET #440

    Tampa hasn't seen a storm like Ian in over a century. Most residents have never experienced anything like this & better heed the warnings. We went trough Andrew in 92 & it's scary as hell especially when the storm hits at night. Boat owners don't secure their boats properly & end up finding them on their front lawns.

    Those who don't leave end up putting the lives of first responders on the line when they expect to get rescued immediately after the storm. You don't screw around with Mother Nature.

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    Tampa hasn't seen a storm like Ian in over a century. Most residents have never experienced anything like this & better heed the warnings. We went trough Andrew in 92 & it's scary as hell especially when the storm hits at night. Boat owners don't secure their boats properly & end up finding them on their front lawns.

    Those who don't leave end up putting the lives of first responders on the line when they expect to get rescued immediately after the storm. You don't screw around with Mother Nature.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2022 - 10:58 AM ET #441

    Hurricanes have been here since the dawn of time. There is a reason so many Spanish Galleons lay at the bottom of the ocean. According to Weather Underground out of the top 31 deadliest stores, two were in the 2000's. And there far more people per square mile now than ever before. https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/articles/deadliest-atlantic-hurricanes

     

    Will warmer water cause an increase in evaporation, yep. Do storms forming over warmer water have a greater chance of getting big, yep. 

    Will wind turbines and electric cars make the oceans cooler? Nope.

    Will going green and buying that green equipment from China who then continue to build coal fired power plants help? No, just the opposite.

    Are the folks who own huge homes and fly around in their private jets and then lecture us on our carbon footprint what we need? Nope, just the opposite. 

    Is shutting down domestic pipelines and then transporting our energy from overseas the right thing to do? Nope, ridiculously stupid.

    The problem is we want to get away from fossil energy but we can't, not yet. So we play a shell game and make it look like we are accomplishing something when we're not. Europe just got caught in that shell game now that Russia was the pea under a shell. So stupid even Trump saw it.

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    Hurricanes have been here since the dawn of time. There is a reason so many Spanish Galleons lay at the bottom of the ocean. According to Weather Underground out of the top 31 deadliest stores, two were in the 2000's. And there far more people per square mile now than ever before. https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/articles/deadliest-atlantic-hurricanes

     

    Will warmer water cause an increase in evaporation, yep. Do storms forming over warmer water have a greater chance of getting big, yep. 

    Will wind turbines and electric cars make the oceans cooler? Nope.

    Will going green and buying that green equipment from China who then continue to build coal fired power plants help? No, just the opposite.

    Are the folks who own huge homes and fly around in their private jets and then lecture us on our carbon footprint what we need? Nope, just the opposite. 

    Is shutting down domestic pipelines and then transporting our energy from overseas the right thing to do? Nope, ridiculously stupid.

    The problem is we want to get away from fossil energy but we can't, not yet. So we play a shell game and make it look like we are accomplishing something when we're not. Europe just got caught in that shell game now that Russia was the pea under a shell. So stupid even Trump saw it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN  SEPTEMBER 2022; Are you happy now? Have you seen Puerto Rico? Do you see what is headed for Florida early next week? Never underestimate Mother Nature!  

     

     

     

    not so long ago donnie chump suggested we nuke hurricanes to stop them

    whatta dummy

     

    Trump knows everything.   Just ask him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN  SEPTEMBER 2022; Are you happy now? Have you seen Puerto Rico? Do you see what is headed for Florida early next week? Never underestimate Mother Nature!  

     

     

     

    not so long ago donnie chump suggested we nuke hurricanes to stop them

    whatta dummy

     

    Trump knows everything.   Just ask him!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2022 - 6:54 PM ET #443

    The dummies are those who believe members of the national security team talk to Axios about their conversations with a president.

    Kind of the same stupidity that believed there were actually bounties on our troops in Afghanistan, believed Hunter's laptop was dropped off by Russians. The list goes on........

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    The dummies are those who believe members of the national security team talk to Axios about their conversations with a president.

    Kind of the same stupidity that believed there were actually bounties on our troops in Afghanistan, believed Hunter's laptop was dropped off by Russians. The list goes on........

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2022 - 8:55 PM ET #444

    Misleading for Fox news to deny link between hurricanes and global warming.  First, early records are incomplete because scientists didn't really begin monitoring the entire globe until the 1970s.  Historically hard to measure trends in hurricanes because of natural variability.  Secondly, scientific consensus is that global warming is making storms more intense.  For example, hurricane Ian went through rapid intensification when it went over warmer waters.  Overall seasonal activity (frequency, intensity, duration) of hurricanes has increased across the world according to Purdue university study.  Also evidences continue to grow.  Third, investing in the preparation for and prevention from extreme weather is less costly than recovery according to United nations IPCC.

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    Misleading for Fox news to deny link between hurricanes and global warming.  First, early records are incomplete because scientists didn't really begin monitoring the entire globe until the 1970s.  Historically hard to measure trends in hurricanes because of natural variability.  Secondly, scientific consensus is that global warming is making storms more intense.  For example, hurricane Ian went through rapid intensification when it went over warmer waters.  Overall seasonal activity (frequency, intensity, duration) of hurricanes has increased across the world according to Purdue university study.  Also evidences continue to grow.  Third, investing in the preparation for and prevention from extreme weather is less costly than recovery according to United nations IPCC.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2022 - 9:30 AM ET #445

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Misleading for Fox news to deny link between hurricanes and global warming.  First, early records are incomplete because scientists didn't really begin monitoring the entire globe until the 1970s.  Historically hard to measure trends in hurricanes because of natural variability.  Secondly, scientific consensus is that global warming is making storms more intense.  For example, hurricane Ian went through rapid intensification when it went over warmer waters.  Overall seasonal activity (frequency, intensity, duration) of hurricanes has increased across the world according to Purdue university study.  Also evidences continue to grow.  Third, investing in the preparation for and prevention from extreme weather is less costly than recovery according to United nations IPCC.

    The frequency statement is FALSE.

    Jeff Masters, meteorologist for Yale Climate Connections, said it is true that the number of U.S. mainland landfalling Atlantic hurricanes has not changed appreciably in the past 100 years.

    Fox News stated the number of hurricanes today is no different than in the past and Global Warming is NOT currently increasing the frequency of hurricanes AS SO MANY FALSELY STATE. 

    Those who falsely made those statements quickly band together to deny the truth and attack those who speak it. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Misleading for Fox news to deny link between hurricanes and global warming.  First, early records are incomplete because scientists didn't really begin monitoring the entire globe until the 1970s.  Historically hard to measure trends in hurricanes because of natural variability.  Secondly, scientific consensus is that global warming is making storms more intense.  For example, hurricane Ian went through rapid intensification when it went over warmer waters.  Overall seasonal activity (frequency, intensity, duration) of hurricanes has increased across the world according to Purdue university study.  Also evidences continue to grow.  Third, investing in the preparation for and prevention from extreme weather is less costly than recovery according to United nations IPCC.

    The frequency statement is FALSE.

    Jeff Masters, meteorologist for Yale Climate Connections, said it is true that the number of U.S. mainland landfalling Atlantic hurricanes has not changed appreciably in the past 100 years.

    Fox News stated the number of hurricanes today is no different than in the past and Global Warming is NOT currently increasing the frequency of hurricanes AS SO MANY FALSELY STATE. 

    Those who falsely made those statements quickly band together to deny the truth and attack those who speak it. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2022 - 9:48 AM ET #446

    https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/All_U.S._Hurricanes.html

    From 1940 to 1959, 20 years, there were 90 recorded hurricanes making landfall on U.S. soil.

    From 2000 to present, 23 years, there have been 82 hurricanes making landfall on the U.S.

     

    YET THERE ARE THOSE WHO SAY THE FREQUENCY IS INCREASING!!!! an_getaway And people believe the misinformation and then declare anything else as misinformation. Just takes a couple of minutes to look it up. Naw, I'll just listen to NBC and CNN. 

    That goodness there is FoxNews to tell it straight. 

    And yes, I believe warmer water creates more intensity. And of course, having building codes and building in suitable areas is great prevention. 

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    https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/All_U.S._Hurricanes.html

    From 1940 to 1959, 20 years, there were 90 recorded hurricanes making landfall on U.S. soil.

    From 2000 to present, 23 years, there have been 82 hurricanes making landfall on the U.S.

     

    YET THERE ARE THOSE WHO SAY THE FREQUENCY IS INCREASING!!!! an_getaway And people believe the misinformation and then declare anything else as misinformation. Just takes a couple of minutes to look it up. Naw, I'll just listen to NBC and CNN. 

    That goodness there is FoxNews to tell it straight. 

    And yes, I believe warmer water creates more intensity. And of course, having building codes and building in suitable areas is great prevention. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2022 - 12:20 PM ET #447

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: NASA - The Effects of Climate Change Effects that scientists had predicted in the past would result from global climate change are now occurring:  according to the Third and Fourth National Climate Assessment Reports: - More Droughts and Heat Waves - Hurricanes Will Become Stronger and More Intense

     

    NASA reports that since the 1980s, there has been stronger hurricanes.  More intense rainfall and flooding.  For example, almost one-third of Pakistan has recently become underwater.   Not all countries are equally impacted by climate change which affects some countries more than others.

    It's going to continue to get worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: NASA - The Effects of Climate Change Effects that scientists had predicted in the past would result from global climate change are now occurring:  according to the Third and Fourth National Climate Assessment Reports: - More Droughts and Heat Waves - Hurricanes Will Become Stronger and More Intense

     

    NASA reports that since the 1980s, there has been stronger hurricanes.  More intense rainfall and flooding.  For example, almost one-third of Pakistan has recently become underwater.   Not all countries are equally impacted by climate change which affects some countries more than others.

    It's going to continue to get worse

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2022 - 8:06 PM ET #448

    https://africa.cgtn.com/2021/11/02/germany-to-give-810-million-to-help-south-africa-end-coal-use/

     

    Nov, 2021; Germany pays South Africa to not use coal.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/german-coal-importers-expect-flurry-shipments-september-2022-08-09/#:~:text=Germany%20may%20import%2032%20million,power%20and%20weather%2Ddriven%20demand.

    August, 2022; 

    German coal importers expect flurry of shipments from September

    Australia, South Africa, Indonesia and Colombia were all cited as potential coal suppliers by the VDKi earlier this year.

    THAT'S RIGHT, THEY'RE BUYING AND BURNING COAL FROM A COUNTRY THEY PAID NOT TO USE COAL. an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

     

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    https://africa.cgtn.com/2021/11/02/germany-to-give-810-million-to-help-south-africa-end-coal-use/

     

    Nov, 2021; Germany pays South Africa to not use coal.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/german-coal-importers-expect-flurry-shipments-september-2022-08-09/#:~:text=Germany%20may%20import%2032%20million,power%20and%20weather%2Ddriven%20demand.

    August, 2022; 

    German coal importers expect flurry of shipments from September

    Australia, South Africa, Indonesia and Colombia were all cited as potential coal suppliers by the VDKi earlier this year.

    THAT'S RIGHT, THEY'RE BUYING AND BURNING COAL FROM A COUNTRY THEY PAID NOT TO USE COAL. an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Misleading for Fox news to deny link between hurricanes and global warming.  First, early records are incomplete because scientists didn't really begin monitoring the entire globe until the 1970s. 

    Historically hard to measure trends in hurricanes because of natural variability. 

    Secondly, scientific consensus is that global warming is making storms more intense.  For example, hurricane Ian went through rapid intensification when it went over warmer waters.  Overall seasonal activity (frequency, intensity, duration) of hurricanes has increased across the world according to Purdue university study.  Also evidences continue to grow.

     

    peace_5 100% correct, Thirdperson, as usual!  

    The FREQUENCY of hurricanes has indeed increased ACROSS THE WORLD as you stated ---> just like the Purdue University study concluded.an_light

    Mind you, the thousands of illiterate climate deniers around the world might take delight in using an_lightselective data with the strawman fallacyan_light to falsely suggest that because the number of hurricanes hitting MONTANA, IDAHO and WYOMING has *NOT* increased, therefore that proves that Purdue University study - concluding that hurricanes ACROSS THE WORLD have increased in frequency - must be obvious MISINFORMATION and we should all switch to watching a cable news anchor who openly admits he LIES to his primetime TV audience! 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Misleading for Fox news to deny link between hurricanes and global warming.  First, early records are incomplete because scientists didn't really begin monitoring the entire globe until the 1970s. 

    Historically hard to measure trends in hurricanes because of natural variability. 

    Secondly, scientific consensus is that global warming is making storms more intense.  For example, hurricane Ian went through rapid intensification when it went over warmer waters.  Overall seasonal activity (frequency, intensity, duration) of hurricanes has increased across the world according to Purdue university study.  Also evidences continue to grow.

     

    peace_5 100% correct, Thirdperson, as usual!  

    The FREQUENCY of hurricanes has indeed increased ACROSS THE WORLD as you stated ---> just like the Purdue University study concluded.an_light

    Mind you, the thousands of illiterate climate deniers around the world might take delight in using an_lightselective data with the strawman fallacyan_light to falsely suggest that because the number of hurricanes hitting MONTANA, IDAHO and WYOMING has *NOT* increased, therefore that proves that Purdue University study - concluding that hurricanes ACROSS THE WORLD have increased in frequency - must be obvious MISINFORMATION and we should all switch to watching a cable news anchor who openly admits he LIES to his primetime TV audience! 

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Misleading for Fox news to deny link between hurricanes and global warming.  First, early records are incomplete because scientists didn't really begin monitoring the entire globe until the 1970s.  Historically hard to measure trends in hurricanes because of natural variability.  Secondly, scientific consensus is that global warming is making storms more intense.  For example, hurricane Ian went through rapid intensification when it went over warmer waters.  Overall seasonal activity (frequency, intensity, duration) of hurricanes has increased across the world according to Purdue university study.  Also evidences continue to grow.   100% correct, Thirdperson, as usual!   The FREQUENCY of hurricanes has indeed increased ACROSS THE WORLD as you stated ---> just like the Purdue University study concluded. Mind you, the thousands of illiterate climate deniers around the world might take delight in using selective data with the strawman fallacy to falsely suggest that because the number of hurricanes hitting MONTANA, IDAHO and WYOMING has *NOT* increased, therefore that proves that Purdue University study - concluding that hurricanes ACROSS THE WORLD have increased in frequency - must be obvious MISINFORMATION and we should all switch to watching a cable news anchor who openly admits he LIES to his primetime TV audience!

    SHOW ME.

    PROVE IT WITH DATA.

    SAYING IT OVER AND OVER WILL NOT MAKE IT SO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Misleading for Fox news to deny link between hurricanes and global warming.  First, early records are incomplete because scientists didn't really begin monitoring the entire globe until the 1970s.  Historically hard to measure trends in hurricanes because of natural variability.  Secondly, scientific consensus is that global warming is making storms more intense.  For example, hurricane Ian went through rapid intensification when it went over warmer waters.  Overall seasonal activity (frequency, intensity, duration) of hurricanes has increased across the world according to Purdue university study.  Also evidences continue to grow.   100% correct, Thirdperson, as usual!   The FREQUENCY of hurricanes has indeed increased ACROSS THE WORLD as you stated ---> just like the Purdue University study concluded. Mind you, the thousands of illiterate climate deniers around the world might take delight in using selective data with the strawman fallacy to falsely suggest that because the number of hurricanes hitting MONTANA, IDAHO and WYOMING has *NOT* increased, therefore that proves that Purdue University study - concluding that hurricanes ACROSS THE WORLD have increased in frequency - must be obvious MISINFORMATION and we should all switch to watching a cable news anchor who openly admits he LIES to his primetime TV audience!

    SHOW ME.

    PROVE IT WITH DATA.

    SAYING IT OVER AND OVER WILL NOT MAKE IT SO.

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