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    Global warming :: is it just a 'chinese hoax' like trump told us or is it serious?

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    fubah2
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 9:08 PM ET #476

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN You may find this MIT article from last year interesting... 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/12/02/atlantic-hurricanes-increasing-frequency-climate/

    Climate change is causing more $$$Billion-Dollar weather disasters!

     

    David Knowles·Senior Editor
    YAHOO NEWS -

    In fact, 2022 marks the eighth straight year that at least 10 separate $$$1 BILLION weather-related disasters occurred, according to the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

    “In the last five years [2017-2021], there were just 18 days on average between billion-dollar disasters—compared to 82 days in the 1980s,” Climate Central, a consortium of scientists and journalists, found in a new analysis posted to its website.

     

    Climate-change-DENIERS response?  "It's all lies!"  and  "It's all Joe Biden's fault!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN You may find this MIT article from last year interesting... 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/12/02/atlantic-hurricanes-increasing-frequency-climate/

    Climate change is causing more $$$Billion-Dollar weather disasters!

     

    David Knowles·Senior Editor
    YAHOO NEWS -

    In fact, 2022 marks the eighth straight year that at least 10 separate $$$1 BILLION weather-related disasters occurred, according to the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

    “In the last five years [2017-2021], there were just 18 days on average between billion-dollar disasters—compared to 82 days in the 1980s,” Climate Central, a consortium of scientists and journalists, found in a new analysis posted to its website.

     

    Climate-change-DENIERS response?  "It's all lies!"  and  "It's all Joe Biden's fault!"

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 10:33 PM ET #477

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN You may find this MIT article from last year interesting...  https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/12/02/atlantic-hurricanes-increasing-frequency-climate/ Climate change is causing more $$$Billion-Dollar weather disasters!   David Knowles·Senior EditorYAHOO NEWS - In fact, 2022 marks the eighth straight year that at least 10 separate $$$1 BILLION weather-related disasters occurred, according to the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). “In the last five years [2017-2021], there were just 18 days on average between billion-dollar disasters—compared to 82 days in the 1980s,” Climate Central, a consortium of scientists and journalists, found in a new analysis posted to its website.

      Climate-change-DENIERS response?  "It's all lies!"  and  "It's all Joe Biden's fault!"

     

    continued...


    “The number and cost of weather and climate disasters
    are increasing in the United States due to a combination
    of increased exposure (i.e., more assets at risk), vulnerability
    (i.e., how much damage a hazard of given intensity —
    wind speed or flood depth, for example — causes at a location),
    and climate change is also supercharging the increasing
    frequency and intensity of certain types of extreme weather
    that lead to billion-dollar disasters.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN You may find this MIT article from last year interesting...  https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/12/02/atlantic-hurricanes-increasing-frequency-climate/ Climate change is causing more $$$Billion-Dollar weather disasters!   David Knowles·Senior EditorYAHOO NEWS - In fact, 2022 marks the eighth straight year that at least 10 separate $$$1 BILLION weather-related disasters occurred, according to the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). “In the last five years [2017-2021], there were just 18 days on average between billion-dollar disasters—compared to 82 days in the 1980s,” Climate Central, a consortium of scientists and journalists, found in a new analysis posted to its website.

      Climate-change-DENIERS response?  "It's all lies!"  and  "It's all Joe Biden's fault!"

     

    continued...


    “The number and cost of weather and climate disasters
    are increasing in the United States due to a combination
    of increased exposure (i.e., more assets at risk), vulnerability
    (i.e., how much damage a hazard of given intensity —
    wind speed or flood depth, for example — causes at a location),
    and climate change is also supercharging the increasing
    frequency and intensity of certain types of extreme weather
    that lead to billion-dollar disasters.

     

     

     

     
    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2022 - 2:15 PM ET #478

     

     

    Gotta love when they highlight today's cost of damage. an_roll_laugh

    It's all Joe Biden's fault. HIS INFLATION HAS MADE HURRICANES MORE COSTLY.

    TRY USING THIS CALCULATOR: https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1955?amount=8200000000

    Compare Apples to Apples. an_lightan_light300 million in 1980 is 1 billion today.

     

    Rank. Name.    Year.    Category.    Damage (USD)*

     3. Andrew.    1992.           5.                $46.2 billion

    97.7 billion today

    9.Hugo.       1989.  4.      $17.4 billion

    41.6 billion today

    11.Agnes1972.    1.       $13.1 billion

    93 billion today

    12.Betsy1965.     3.       $12.5 billion

    117.78 billion today

    15.Camille.     1969.  5.     $10.3 billion

    83.3 billion today

    19.Diane.      1955.    1.    $8.2 billion

    90.8 billion today

     

     

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    Gotta love when they highlight today's cost of damage. an_roll_laugh

    It's all Joe Biden's fault. HIS INFLATION HAS MADE HURRICANES MORE COSTLY.

    TRY USING THIS CALCULATOR: https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1955?amount=8200000000

    Compare Apples to Apples. an_lightan_light300 million in 1980 is 1 billion today.

     

    Rank. Name.    Year.    Category.    Damage (USD)*

     3. Andrew.    1992.           5.                $46.2 billion

    97.7 billion today

    9.Hugo.       1989.  4.      $17.4 billion

    41.6 billion today

    11.Agnes1972.    1.       $13.1 billion

    93 billion today

    12.Betsy1965.     3.       $12.5 billion

    117.78 billion today

    15.Camille.     1969.  5.     $10.3 billion

    83.3 billion today

    19.Diane.      1955.    1.    $8.2 billion

    90.8 billion today

     

     

     
    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2022 - 2:26 PM ET #479

    According to noaa the average amount of hurricanes making U.S. landfall by decade since 1851 is 17.7 per year. An average of 6 are CAT 3 or higher.

    From 2001 to 2010 there were 19 and 7 were CAT 3 or higher.

    From 2011 to 2020 there were 19 and 6 were CAT 3 or higher

    As a comparison;

    From 1941 to 1950 there were 24 and 10 were CAT 3 or higher.

    From 1931-1940 there were 19 with 8 CAT 3 or higher

    From 1911-1920 there were 21 with 7 CAT 3 or higher

    https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml

     

    YOUR NOT FOOLING ANYONE.

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    According to noaa the average amount of hurricanes making U.S. landfall by decade since 1851 is 17.7 per year. An average of 6 are CAT 3 or higher.

    From 2001 to 2010 there were 19 and 7 were CAT 3 or higher.

    From 2011 to 2020 there were 19 and 6 were CAT 3 or higher

    As a comparison;

    From 1941 to 1950 there were 24 and 10 were CAT 3 or higher.

    From 1931-1940 there were 19 with 8 CAT 3 or higher

    From 1911-1920 there were 21 with 7 CAT 3 or higher

    https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml

     

    YOUR NOT FOOLING ANYONE.

     
    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2022 - 2:38 PM ET #480

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    According to noaa the average amount of hurricanes making U.S. landfall by decade since 1851 is 17.7 per year. An average of 6 are CAT 3 or higher. From 2001 to 2010 there were 19 and 7 were CAT 3 or higher. From 2011 to 2020 there were 19 and 6 were CAT 3 or higher As a comparison; From 1941 to 1950 there were 24 and 10 were CAT 3 or higher. From 1931-1940 there were 19 with 8 CAT 3 or higher From 1911-1920 there were 21 with 7 CAT 3 or higher https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml   YOUR NOT FOOLING ANYONE.

    That should read 17.7 per decade, not year.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    According to noaa the average amount of hurricanes making U.S. landfall by decade since 1851 is 17.7 per year. An average of 6 are CAT 3 or higher. From 2001 to 2010 there were 19 and 7 were CAT 3 or higher. From 2011 to 2020 there were 19 and 6 were CAT 3 or higher As a comparison; From 1941 to 1950 there were 24 and 10 were CAT 3 or higher. From 1931-1940 there were 19 with 8 CAT 3 or higher From 1911-1920 there were 21 with 7 CAT 3 or higher https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml   YOUR NOT FOOLING ANYONE.

    That should read 17.7 per decade, not year.

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2022 - 6:01 PM ET #481

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN You may find this MIT article from last year interesting...  https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/12/02/atlantic-hurricanes-increasing-frequency-climate/

     

     

    Climate change is causing more $$$Billion-Dollar weather disasters!

     

    David Knowles·Senior Editor
    YAHOO NEWS -

    In fact, 2022 marks the eighth straight year that at least 10 separate $$$1 BILLION weather-related disasters occurred, according to the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

    “In the last five years [2017-2021], there were just 18 days on average between billion-dollar disasters—compared to 82 days in the 1980s,” Climate Central, a consortium of scientists and journalists, found in a new analysis posted to its website.

     

    Climate-change-DENIERS response? "It's all lies!" and "It's all Joe Biden's fault!"

     

    Good points Midnight1 and Fubah2    thumbs_up

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN You may find this MIT article from last year interesting...  https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/12/02/atlantic-hurricanes-increasing-frequency-climate/

     

     

    Climate change is causing more $$$Billion-Dollar weather disasters!

     

    David Knowles·Senior Editor
    YAHOO NEWS -

    In fact, 2022 marks the eighth straight year that at least 10 separate $$$1 BILLION weather-related disasters occurred, according to the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

    “In the last five years [2017-2021], there were just 18 days on average between billion-dollar disasters—compared to 82 days in the 1980s,” Climate Central, a consortium of scientists and journalists, found in a new analysis posted to its website.

     

    Climate-change-DENIERS response? "It's all lies!" and "It's all Joe Biden's fault!"

     

    Good points Midnight1 and Fubah2    thumbs_up

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2022 - 8:50 PM ET #482

    Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.

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    Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2022 - 10:25 AM ET #483

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.

     

    Europe's energy prices have doubled in the last handful of months - Third "there's no correlation between an oil and natural gas shortage in Europe and increased prices" economists are laughing at this comment. 

     

    News flash, if solar and wind were so great and efficient, there would already be enough available to generate the power the world needs. I guess dems don't fully comprehend supply and demand and economics. They have great fantasy imagination, but not quite real world vision.

    Third is clearly a leftist bot, how do you people on the left listen to this crap and believe it??! This is the information the left is spewing on a daily basis. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.

     

    Europe's energy prices have doubled in the last handful of months - Third "there's no correlation between an oil and natural gas shortage in Europe and increased prices" economists are laughing at this comment. 

     

    News flash, if solar and wind were so great and efficient, there would already be enough available to generate the power the world needs. I guess dems don't fully comprehend supply and demand and economics. They have great fantasy imagination, but not quite real world vision.

    Third is clearly a leftist bot, how do you people on the left listen to this crap and believe it??! This is the information the left is spewing on a daily basis. 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2022 - 10:26 AM ET #484

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.   Europe's energy prices have doubled in the last year - Third "there's no correlation between an oil and natural gas shortage in Europe and increased prices" economists are laughing at this comment.    News flash, if solar and wind were so great and efficient, there would already be enough available to generate the power the world needs. I guess dems don't fully comprehend supply and demand and economics. They have great fantasy imagination, but not quite real world vision. Third is clearly a leftist bot, how do you people on the left listen to this crap and believe it??! This is the information the left is spewing on a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.   Europe's energy prices have doubled in the last year - Third "there's no correlation between an oil and natural gas shortage in Europe and increased prices" economists are laughing at this comment.    News flash, if solar and wind were so great and efficient, there would already be enough available to generate the power the world needs. I guess dems don't fully comprehend supply and demand and economics. They have great fantasy imagination, but not quite real world vision. Third is clearly a leftist bot, how do you people on the left listen to this crap and believe it??! This is the information the left is spewing on a daily basis.

     
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    China, who builds wind turbines and solar panels is on pace to build 43 coal fired plants according to Time in August, 2021. So yeah, you keep believing. an_roll_laugh

     

    400 private jets have flown to Egypt for UN Climate Conference. Meanwhile the Seattle Seahawks and Tampa Bucs flew to Germany to play football. UCLA and USC joining the Big10 means many cross country air flights for various sports teams.

    All the while little girls and boys dump milk on the floor in grocery isles and some lay in streets, glue their hands to paintings, slice tires on large vehicles. 

    We only have 10 years left!!! We're doomed if we don't change now!!!! 

    Aren't humans stupid? an_beatup

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    China, who builds wind turbines and solar panels is on pace to build 43 coal fired plants according to Time in August, 2021. So yeah, you keep believing. an_roll_laugh

     

    400 private jets have flown to Egypt for UN Climate Conference. Meanwhile the Seattle Seahawks and Tampa Bucs flew to Germany to play football. UCLA and USC joining the Big10 means many cross country air flights for various sports teams.

    All the while little girls and boys dump milk on the floor in grocery isles and some lay in streets, glue their hands to paintings, slice tires on large vehicles. 

    We only have 10 years left!!! We're doomed if we don't change now!!!! 

    Aren't humans stupid? an_beatup

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2022 - 9:46 AM ET #486

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.

     

    So you WANT an energy crisis, want people to suffer for YOUR perceived "greater good". That about sums it up.

    I like the way Germany hastened to burning wood.

    https://www.yahoo.com/now/people-scared-poland-homeowners-lining-150000910.html

    Poles burning "renewable trash". 

    Better be careful, more "Fascists" might be on the way, like Italy! an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.

     

    So you WANT an energy crisis, want people to suffer for YOUR perceived "greater good". That about sums it up.

    I like the way Germany hastened to burning wood.

    https://www.yahoo.com/now/people-scared-poland-homeowners-lining-150000910.html

    Poles burning "renewable trash". 

    Better be careful, more "Fascists" might be on the way, like Italy! an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2022 - 10:22 AM ET #487

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.   So you WANT an energy crisis, want people to suffer for YOUR perceived "greater good". That about sums it up. I like the way Germany hastened to burning wood. https://www.yahoo.com/now/people-scared-poland-homeowners-lining-150000910.html Poles burning "renewable trash".  Better be careful, more "Fascists" might be on the way, like Italy!

    .

    Yes, they do. It helps push their agenda. Just like CA dems wanted fires to burn (not clearing the forest to add fuel) so they can push the fires being caused by global warming. Covid was the best thing that could happen for the Dems and they took every second to blame Trump for Mr. Sciences experiment gone bad. Now the entire world is burning and the dems think they can save it with solar and wind turbines. an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.   So you WANT an energy crisis, want people to suffer for YOUR perceived "greater good". That about sums it up. I like the way Germany hastened to burning wood. https://www.yahoo.com/now/people-scared-poland-homeowners-lining-150000910.html Poles burning "renewable trash".  Better be careful, more "Fascists" might be on the way, like Italy!

    .

    Yes, they do. It helps push their agenda. Just like CA dems wanted fires to burn (not clearing the forest to add fuel) so they can push the fires being caused by global warming. Covid was the best thing that could happen for the Dems and they took every second to blame Trump for Mr. Sciences experiment gone bad. Now the entire world is burning and the dems think they can save it with solar and wind turbines. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2022 - 12:59 PM ET #488

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action. 

     

    thats bcuz the democrats r concerned about our planet and the future for our children and grandchildren while the repos see that and feel they must devote effort to opposing anything the democrats want

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action. 

     

    thats bcuz the democrats r concerned about our planet and the future for our children and grandchildren while the repos see that and feel they must devote effort to opposing anything the democrats want

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2022 - 1:09 PM ET #489

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.    thats bcuz the democrats r concerned about our planet and the future for our children and grandchildren while the repos see that and feel they must devote effort to opposing anything the democrats want

     

    What happened to all houses on the coast going under water? Gore promised it would happen...still waiting.

    Stop. Buying. Crap. From. China. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.    thats bcuz the democrats r concerned about our planet and the future for our children and grandchildren while the repos see that and feel they must devote effort to opposing anything the democrats want

     

    What happened to all houses on the coast going under water? Gore promised it would happen...still waiting.

    Stop. Buying. Crap. From. China. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2022 - 2:47 PM ET #490

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

      But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action. 

     

    Yes, they do. It helps push their agenda.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

      But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action. 

     

    Yes, they do. It helps push their agenda.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2022 - 9:04 AM ET #491

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.

    Can you explain HOW China will overchieve after building 40+ new coal fired plants? Would be interested!

    Here is what China is doing; China is positioning itself to first, control all of Asia. China's problem right now is dependence on imported oil. Any provocation by China now would result in " sanctions" and oil would stop flowing. So China needs to wean itself from oil as best it can. First, an oil pipeline from Russia to get a minimum amount of oil they would still need. Second, huge electric car boom. China leads the world in electric cars and are replacing gas cars everyday (John Kerry pees his pants just talking about it) along with some solar and wind. Third, and THIS IS THE OBVIOUS GIVEAWAY, they are investing in ALL COAL FIRED PLANTS. This will give them oil and natural gas independence and allow them to wage war without fear of any energy sanction. Bloomberg reports China has enough coal for 5 decades!!

    They are building their empire in front our eyes and Biden just APPEASES THEM. REMEMBER APPEASEMENT??

    Oh look at the electric cars. an_clap Oh look at the solar! an_clap  NEVERMIND ALL THE COAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.  First, they argue more oil and natural gas are necessary in light of Europe's energy crisis due to Ukraine war.  However International energy agency found that the global energy crisis has likely hastened the transition away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  Also little evidence to support claim that climate policies contribute to higher energy prices.  Secondly, right wing media argues that it would be futile for the US to develop renewable energy because China continues to use coal.  But due to massive investments in renewable energy, China is predicted to overachieve on carbon emissions reduction targets by 2030.

    Can you explain HOW China will overchieve after building 40+ new coal fired plants? Would be interested!

    Here is what China is doing; China is positioning itself to first, control all of Asia. China's problem right now is dependence on imported oil. Any provocation by China now would result in " sanctions" and oil would stop flowing. So China needs to wean itself from oil as best it can. First, an oil pipeline from Russia to get a minimum amount of oil they would still need. Second, huge electric car boom. China leads the world in electric cars and are replacing gas cars everyday (John Kerry pees his pants just talking about it) along with some solar and wind. Third, and THIS IS THE OBVIOUS GIVEAWAY, they are investing in ALL COAL FIRED PLANTS. This will give them oil and natural gas independence and allow them to wage war without fear of any energy sanction. Bloomberg reports China has enough coal for 5 decades!!

    They are building their empire in front our eyes and Biden just APPEASES THEM. REMEMBER APPEASEMENT??

    Oh look at the electric cars. an_clap Oh look at the solar! an_clap  NEVERMIND ALL THE COAL.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.   

    thats bcuz the democrats r concerned about our planet and the future for our children and grandchildren while the repos see that and feel they must devote effort to opposing anything the democrats want

     

    That is a fact.  Own the Libs at all costs.  Nothing else matters.   Even if the consequences hurts America it just doesn't matter....."Own the Libs!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Recently, delegates of almost 200 countries met at United nations conference on climate change (COP27).  But right wing media promotes misinformation against climate action.   

    thats bcuz the democrats r concerned about our planet and the future for our children and grandchildren while the repos see that and feel they must devote effort to opposing anything the democrats want

     

    That is a fact.  Own the Libs at all costs.  Nothing else matters.   Even if the consequences hurts America it just doesn't matter....."Own the Libs!"

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2022 - 9:59 AM ET #493

    Just breath-taking! surprised


    Trump's pick for US senate actually said this...

     

     "If we was ready for the green agenda, I'd raise my hand
    right now. But we're not ready right now. So don't let them
    fool you like this is a new agenda. This is not a new agenda.
    We're not prepared.  What we need to do is keep having
    those gas-guzzling cars, 'cause we got the good emissions
    under those cars."

     

     

    Little doubt that genius would be Trump's pick for the next Secretary of Transportation.

     

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    Just breath-taking! surprised


    Trump's pick for US senate actually said this...

     

     "If we was ready for the green agenda, I'd raise my hand
    right now. But we're not ready right now. So don't let them
    fool you like this is a new agenda. This is not a new agenda.
    We're not prepared.  What we need to do is keep having
    those gas-guzzling cars, 'cause we got the good emissions
    under those cars."

     

     

    Little doubt that genius would be Trump's pick for the next Secretary of Transportation.

     

     
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    As New York faces historic snowstorm, United nations conference on climate change (COP27) has approved a historic fund for rich nations to provide aid to poor nations that are victims of extreme weather disasters.  Interesting that Fox news poll show 61% of voters are concerned about climate change despite years of Fox denial of climate science.

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    As New York faces historic snowstorm, United nations conference on climate change (COP27) has approved a historic fund for rich nations to provide aid to poor nations that are victims of extreme weather disasters.  Interesting that Fox news poll show 61% of voters are concerned about climate change despite years of Fox denial of climate science.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2022 - 9:20 PM ET #495

    surprised

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    surprised

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2022 - 6:02 AM ET #496

    Positive forecast for
    renewable energy

    London CNN Business — 

    Global renewable power capacity is set to grow as much
    in the next five years as it has over the past two decades,
    as soaring energy prices and the climate crisis force
    governments to ditch fossil fuels.

    In a report published Tuesday, the International Energy Agency
    forecast a sharp acceleration in installations of renewable power.
    It now expects green energy to overtake coal to become the
    largest global source of electricity by early 2025.

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    Positive forecast for
    renewable energy

    London CNN Business — 

    Global renewable power capacity is set to grow as much
    in the next five years as it has over the past two decades,
    as soaring energy prices and the climate crisis force
    governments to ditch fossil fuels.

    In a report published Tuesday, the International Energy Agency
    forecast a sharp acceleration in installations of renewable power.
    It now expects green energy to overtake coal to become the
    largest global source of electricity by early 2025.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2022 - 8:55 PM ET #497

     

     

     

    "If we was ready for the green agenda, I'd raise my hand
    right now. But we're not ready right now. So don't let them
    fool you like this is a new agenda. This is not a new agenda.
    We're not prepared."

    NEWS FROM THE UK; 

    The United Kingdom this week approved its first new coal mine in 30 years, provoking anger among environmentalists who said the move is a step back for the country’s ambitions toward clean renewable energy. The mine decision comes as many homes and businesses have seen energy bills double or, in some cases, triple this past year. 

    Sweden going nuclear.

    Germany burning firewood and importing 32 million tons of coal.

    Poland produces 50 million tons of coal from its own mines.

     

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    "If we was ready for the green agenda, I'd raise my hand
    right now. But we're not ready right now. So don't let them
    fool you like this is a new agenda. This is not a new agenda.
    We're not prepared."

    NEWS FROM THE UK; 

    The United Kingdom this week approved its first new coal mine in 30 years, provoking anger among environmentalists who said the move is a step back for the country’s ambitions toward clean renewable energy. The mine decision comes as many homes and businesses have seen energy bills double or, in some cases, triple this past year. 

    Sweden going nuclear.

    Germany burning firewood and importing 32 million tons of coal.

    Poland produces 50 million tons of coal from its own mines.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2022 - 9:16 PM ET #498

    Isn't it amazing how just taking Russia out of the energy equation created so much upheaval?

    Who woulda thought all those Europeon countries who claimed they were going green really just shutdown their own fossil fuel production and bought fossil fuels from Russia like a shell game.

    And now they're in a bind and returning to the nasty stuff, coal, just like India and China. 

    Pretty revealing.

     

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    Isn't it amazing how just taking Russia out of the energy equation created so much upheaval?

    Who woulda thought all those Europeon countries who claimed they were going green really just shutdown their own fossil fuel production and bought fossil fuels from Russia like a shell game.

    And now they're in a bind and returning to the nasty stuff, coal, just like India and China. 

    Pretty revealing.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2022 - 9:25 AM ET #499

    In North America, coldest Christmas in decades.  Global warming is contributing to more extreme weather in two ways.  As warming atmosphere traps more water vapor, that precipitation leads to heavier snowfalls when temperatures drop.  Also warming Arctic weakens jet stream to disrupt polar vortex that normally locks cold air mass.  So cold winters don't mean there's no global warming.

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    In North America, coldest Christmas in decades.  Global warming is contributing to more extreme weather in two ways.  As warming atmosphere traps more water vapor, that precipitation leads to heavier snowfalls when temperatures drop.  Also warming Arctic weakens jet stream to disrupt polar vortex that normally locks cold air mass.  So cold winters don't mean there's no global warming.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    In North America, coldest Christmas in decades.  Global warming is contributing to more extreme weather in two ways.  As warming atmosphere traps more water vapor, that precipitation leads to heavier snowfalls when temperatures drop.  Also warming Arctic weakens jet stream to disrupt polar vortex that normally locks cold air mass.  So cold winters don't mean there's no global warming.

     

    Many are already blaming Joe Biden for the cold.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    In North America, coldest Christmas in decades.  Global warming is contributing to more extreme weather in two ways.  As warming atmosphere traps more water vapor, that precipitation leads to heavier snowfalls when temperatures drop.  Also warming Arctic weakens jet stream to disrupt polar vortex that normally locks cold air mass.  So cold winters don't mean there's no global warming.

     

    Many are already blaming Joe Biden for the cold.

     

     

     

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