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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 1:55 AM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

      got me what?? I have said it's power play, and i expect GOP will jam through if McConnell has enough votes. Multiple of GOP sentors don't care about hypocrisy from 2016 nomination of Garland to SCOTUS, however the pass of ACA did not involve hypocrisy.

    Here's the hypocrisy ObamaCare ....The Affordable Care Act will go down in history as the most corrupt bill ever passed..with bribes and kickbacks needed to get it passed...Now do you get the hypocrisy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

      got me what?? I have said it's power play, and i expect GOP will jam through if McConnell has enough votes. Multiple of GOP sentors don't care about hypocrisy from 2016 nomination of Garland to SCOTUS, however the pass of ACA did not involve hypocrisy.

    Here's the hypocrisy ObamaCare ....The Affordable Care Act will go down in history as the most corrupt bill ever passed..with bribes and kickbacks needed to get it passed...Now do you get the hypocrisy?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 2:02 AM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:   got me what?? I have said it's power play, and i expect GOP will jam through if McConnell has enough votes. Multiple of GOP sentors don't care about hypocrisy from 2016 nomination of Garland to SCOTUS, however the pass of ACA did not involve hypocrisy.

     

    Here's the hypocrisy ObamaCare ....The Affordable Care Act will go down in history as the most corrupt bill ever passed..with bribes and kickbacks needed to get it passed...Now do you get the hypocrisy?

     

    Ahh....I see a certain right-wing fascism supporter has made parole....... AGAIN

     

    The Affordable Care Act is more popular now
    than when Obama was president

    March 2, 2020

    Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law
    went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the
    Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents
    in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:   got me what?? I have said it's power play, and i expect GOP will jam through if McConnell has enough votes. Multiple of GOP sentors don't care about hypocrisy from 2016 nomination of Garland to SCOTUS, however the pass of ACA did not involve hypocrisy.

     

    Here's the hypocrisy ObamaCare ....The Affordable Care Act will go down in history as the most corrupt bill ever passed..with bribes and kickbacks needed to get it passed...Now do you get the hypocrisy?

     

    Ahh....I see a certain right-wing fascism supporter has made parole....... AGAIN

     

    The Affordable Care Act is more popular now
    than when Obama was president

    March 2, 2020

    Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law
    went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the
    Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents
    in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 2:03 AM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:   got me what?? I have said it's power play, and i expect GOP will jam through if McConnell has enough votes. Multiple of GOP sentors don't care about hypocrisy from 2016 nomination of Garland to SCOTUS, however the pass of ACA did not involve hypocrisy. Here's the hypocrisy ObamaCare ....The Affordable Care Act will go down in history as the most corrupt bill ever passed..with bribes and kickbacks needed to get it passed...Now do you get the hypocrisy?

    Really? Ruby red states have passed the ACA Medicaid expansion in last few months. Don't hate Obama's legacy, ACA is here to protect mid and low income Americans regardless of the political preferences, West Virginia, one of the deep red state, hundred of thousands of it's  residents have the ACA protection. Please, don't hate people being helped, be nice to others who definitively need help.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:   got me what?? I have said it's power play, and i expect GOP will jam through if McConnell has enough votes. Multiple of GOP sentors don't care about hypocrisy from 2016 nomination of Garland to SCOTUS, however the pass of ACA did not involve hypocrisy. Here's the hypocrisy ObamaCare ....The Affordable Care Act will go down in history as the most corrupt bill ever passed..with bribes and kickbacks needed to get it passed...Now do you get the hypocrisy?

    Really? Ruby red states have passed the ACA Medicaid expansion in last few months. Don't hate Obama's legacy, ACA is here to protect mid and low income Americans regardless of the political preferences, West Virginia, one of the deep red state, hundred of thousands of it's  residents have the ACA protection. Please, don't hate people being helped, be nice to others who definitively need help.  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 2:18 AM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by Europa:   got me what?? I have said it's power play, and i expect GOP will jam through if McConnell has enough votes. Multiple of GOP sentors don't care about hypocrisy from 2016 nomination of Garland to SCOTUS, however the pass of ACA did not involve hypocrisy.   Here's the hypocrisy ObamaCare ....The Affordable Care Act will go down in history as the most corrupt bill ever passed..with bribes and kickbacks needed to get it passed...Now do you get the hypocrisy?   Ahh....I see a certain right-wing fascism supporter has made parole....... AGAIN   The Affordable Care Act is more popular now than when Obama was president March 2, 2020 Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.

    Slim just hates people getting helped from ACA, one of the Obama legacy, and calls ACA "the most corrupt bill ever passed". How many Trump voters have the ACA protection, especially amid the Covid-19 pandemic? I will say millions, what do you think?   

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by Europa:   got me what?? I have said it's power play, and i expect GOP will jam through if McConnell has enough votes. Multiple of GOP sentors don't care about hypocrisy from 2016 nomination of Garland to SCOTUS, however the pass of ACA did not involve hypocrisy.   Here's the hypocrisy ObamaCare ....The Affordable Care Act will go down in history as the most corrupt bill ever passed..with bribes and kickbacks needed to get it passed...Now do you get the hypocrisy?   Ahh....I see a certain right-wing fascism supporter has made parole....... AGAIN   The Affordable Care Act is more popular now than when Obama was president March 2, 2020 Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.

    Slim just hates people getting helped from ACA, one of the Obama legacy, and calls ACA "the most corrupt bill ever passed". How many Trump voters have the ACA protection, especially amid the Covid-19 pandemic? I will say millions, what do you think?   

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 2:27 AM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Really? Ruby red states have passed the ACA Medicaid expansion in last few months. Don't hate Obama's legacy, ACA is here to protect mid and low income Americans regardless of the political preferences, West Virginia, one of the deep red state, hundred of thousands of it's  residents have the ACA protection. Please, don't hate people being helped, be nice to others who definitively need help.

    That doesn't change the fact that it took $ 1.2 Billion in pork and bribes to pass Obamacare..aided by the help of a Supreme Court Chief Justice changing the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate into a tax ...along with a president's health care promise that was one of biggest presidential lies of all time ...that's Obama's legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Really? Ruby red states have passed the ACA Medicaid expansion in last few months. Don't hate Obama's legacy, ACA is here to protect mid and low income Americans regardless of the political preferences, West Virginia, one of the deep red state, hundred of thousands of it's  residents have the ACA protection. Please, don't hate people being helped, be nice to others who definitively need help.

    That doesn't change the fact that it took $ 1.2 Billion in pork and bribes to pass Obamacare..aided by the help of a Supreme Court Chief Justice changing the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate into a tax ...along with a president's health care promise that was one of biggest presidential lies of all time ...that's Obama's legacy.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 2:31 AM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Really? Ruby red states have passed the ACA Medicaid expansion in last few months. Don't hate Obama's legacy, ACA is here to protect mid and low income Americans regardless of the political preferences, West Virginia, one of the deep red state, hundred of thousands of it's  residents have the ACA protection. Please, don't hate people being helped, be nice to others who definitively need help. That doesn't change the fact that took $ 1.2 Billion in pork and bribes to pass Obamacare..aided by the help of a Supreme Court Chief Justice changing the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate into a tax ...along with a president's health care promise that was one of biggest presidential lies of all time ...that's Obama's legacy.

    Please, don't just hate people getting helped with their health care. Many people will thank you, please don't hate those mid to low income families that need health help, esp. during the Covid-19 pandemic. Don't hate, please.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Really? Ruby red states have passed the ACA Medicaid expansion in last few months. Don't hate Obama's legacy, ACA is here to protect mid and low income Americans regardless of the political preferences, West Virginia, one of the deep red state, hundred of thousands of it's  residents have the ACA protection. Please, don't hate people being helped, be nice to others who definitively need help. That doesn't change the fact that took $ 1.2 Billion in pork and bribes to pass Obamacare..aided by the help of a Supreme Court Chief Justice changing the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate into a tax ...along with a president's health care promise that was one of biggest presidential lies of all time ...that's Obama's legacy.

    Please, don't just hate people getting helped with their health care. Many people will thank you, please don't hate those mid to low income families that need health help, esp. during the Covid-19 pandemic. Don't hate, please.   

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 2:33 AM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The Affordable Care Act is more popular now
    than when Obama was president

    March 2, 2020

    Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law
    went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the
    Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents
    in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.

    that quote was from march 2

    with the massive health crisis and massive unemployment rump created by his LIES it is clear the afa is even more popular today then it was march 2 before all this happened

    that 55% is probably more like 70% now

    will probly gain even more favorability after all the airlines employees r layed off in 10 days

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The Affordable Care Act is more popular now
    than when Obama was president

    March 2, 2020

    Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law
    went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the
    Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents
    in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.

    that quote was from march 2

    with the massive health crisis and massive unemployment rump created by his LIES it is clear the afa is even more popular today then it was march 2 before all this happened

    that 55% is probably more like 70% now

    will probly gain even more favorability after all the airlines employees r layed off in 10 days

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 2:42 AM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    The Affordable Care Act is more popular now than when Obama was president March 2, 2020 Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.

     

    Slim just hates people getting helped from ACA, one of the Obama legacy, and calls ACA "the most corrupt bill ever passed". How many Trump voters have the ACA protection, especially amid the Covid-19 pandemic? I will say millions, what do you think?

    Well, we have to understand perspective in this case.

    The AFA was essentially put in place by a BLACK person.

    Nevertheless, all that right-wing fascist HATE aside,  yes, MILLIONS more are now thankful for the AFA due to losing their company insurance when they got layed off due to trump's deception and bumbling incompetence.  And yes, that includes many MILLIONS of republicans!!!!   (of course, at least half of those would deny it, if asked)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    The Affordable Care Act is more popular now than when Obama was president March 2, 2020 Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.

     

    Slim just hates people getting helped from ACA, one of the Obama legacy, and calls ACA "the most corrupt bill ever passed". How many Trump voters have the ACA protection, especially amid the Covid-19 pandemic? I will say millions, what do you think?

    Well, we have to understand perspective in this case.

    The AFA was essentially put in place by a BLACK person.

    Nevertheless, all that right-wing fascist HATE aside,  yes, MILLIONS more are now thankful for the AFA due to losing their company insurance when they got layed off due to trump's deception and bumbling incompetence.  And yes, that includes many MILLIONS of republicans!!!!   (of course, at least half of those would deny it, if asked)

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 2:43 AM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The Affordable Care Act is more popular now than when Obama was president March 2, 2020 Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views. that quote was from march 2 with the massive health crisis and massive unemployment rump created by his LIES it is clear the afa is even more popular today then it was march 2 before all this happened that 55% is probably more like 70% now will probly gain even more favorability after all the airlines employees r layed off in 10 days

    Exactly, people will need help during this hardship. And I believe majority of Americans will love to help each other. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The Affordable Care Act is more popular now than when Obama was president March 2, 2020 Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views. that quote was from march 2 with the massive health crisis and massive unemployment rump created by his LIES it is clear the afa is even more popular today then it was march 2 before all this happened that 55% is probably more like 70% now will probly gain even more favorability after all the airlines employees r layed off in 10 days

    Exactly, people will need help during this hardship. And I believe majority of Americans will love to help each other. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: The Affordable Care Act is more popular now than when Obama was president March 2, 2020 Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.   Slim just hates people getting helped from ACA, one of the Obama legacy, and calls ACA "the most corrupt bill ever passed". How many Trump voters have the ACA protection, especially amid the Covid-19 pandemic? I will say millions, what do you think? Well, we have to understand perspective in this case. The AFA was essentially put in place by a BLACK person. Nevertheless, all that right-wing fascist HATE aside,  yes, MILLIONS more are now thankful for the AFA due to losing their company insurance when they got layed off due to trump's deception and bumbling incompetence.  And yes, that includes many MILLIONS of republicans!!!!   (of course, at least half of those would deny it, if asked)

    Good post, thank you! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: The Affordable Care Act is more popular now than when Obama was president March 2, 2020 Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.   Slim just hates people getting helped from ACA, one of the Obama legacy, and calls ACA "the most corrupt bill ever passed". How many Trump voters have the ACA protection, especially amid the Covid-19 pandemic? I will say millions, what do you think? Well, we have to understand perspective in this case. The AFA was essentially put in place by a BLACK person. Nevertheless, all that right-wing fascist HATE aside,  yes, MILLIONS more are now thankful for the AFA due to losing their company insurance when they got layed off due to trump's deception and bumbling incompetence.  And yes, that includes many MILLIONS of republicans!!!!   (of course, at least half of those would deny it, if asked)

    Good post, thank you! 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:   < usual partisan BS removed >

     

     

     Don't hate, please.

    Unfortunately that's a bit like asking trump to stop lying... sad to say.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:   < usual partisan BS removed >

     

     

     Don't hate, please.

    Unfortunately that's a bit like asking trump to stop lying... sad to say.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

     Please, don't just hate people getting helped with their health care. Many people will thank you, please don't hate those mid to low income families that need health help, esp. during the Covid-19 pandemic. Don't hate, please.

    Obamacare helped some people.. mostly Americans with preexisting conditions and those who are eligible for very generous subsidies. But,by far more people were hurt than it helped by a factor of 2 to1..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

     Please, don't just hate people getting helped with their health care. Many people will thank you, please don't hate those mid to low income families that need health help, esp. during the Covid-19 pandemic. Don't hate, please.

    Obamacare helped some people.. mostly Americans with preexisting conditions and those who are eligible for very generous subsidies. But,by far more people were hurt than it helped by a factor of 2 to1..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The AFA was essentially put in place by a BLACK person.

     

    bingo

    thats the real reason why so many rednecks r told they have to hate obamacare

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The AFA was essentially put in place by a BLACK person.

     

    bingo

    thats the real reason why so many rednecks r told they have to hate obamacare

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The Affordable Care Act is more popular now than when Obama was president March 2, 2020 Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.

     

    that quote was from march 2 with the massive health crisis and massive unemployment rump created by his LIES it is clear the afa is even more popular today then it was march 2 before all this happened that 55% is probably more like 70% now will probly gain even more favorability after all the airlines employees r layed off in 10 days

    Very high degree of probability that is the current fact, yes. 

    55% favorability in March -- an alltime record high and like you said that was *BEFORE* the trump-virus!

    And only 37% unfavorability back then -- likely less now.

    I'll bet that +18 point gap is like +30 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The Affordable Care Act is more popular now than when Obama was president March 2, 2020 Some 55% of Americans support the ACA, a record high since the law went into effect a decade ago, according to a recent report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, while 37% of the 130,000 respondents in the nationally representative poll hold unfavorable views.

     

    that quote was from march 2 with the massive health crisis and massive unemployment rump created by his LIES it is clear the afa is even more popular today then it was march 2 before all this happened that 55% is probably more like 70% now will probly gain even more favorability after all the airlines employees r layed off in 10 days

    Very high degree of probability that is the current fact, yes. 

    55% favorability in March -- an alltime record high and like you said that was *BEFORE* the trump-virus!

    And only 37% unfavorability back then -- likely less now.

    I'll bet that +18 point gap is like +30 now.

     
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    What Ginsburg's death could mean to Obamacare..After Republicans in Congress failed to repeal the Affordable Care Act in 2017, 20 red state attorneys general led by Texas launched a lawsuit to have the law overturned by the courts. The case is scheduled to go before the Supreme Court for oral arguments on November 10, one week after the election..hopefully with nine Justices in place...

    Roberts previously voted with the liberal wing to uphold the ACA in 2012. But Ginsburg's death Friday changes that calculus dramatically.

    Congress has already made the ACA unconstitutional when it repealed the individual mandate.. if that one section of the ACA is unconstitutional then the entire law, containing somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 pages,counting rules, regulations, and proposed regulations needs to be thrown out.

     

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    What Ginsburg's death could mean to Obamacare..After Republicans in Congress failed to repeal the Affordable Care Act in 2017, 20 red state attorneys general led by Texas launched a lawsuit to have the law overturned by the courts. The case is scheduled to go before the Supreme Court for oral arguments on November 10, one week after the election..hopefully with nine Justices in place...

    Roberts previously voted with the liberal wing to uphold the ACA in 2012. But Ginsburg's death Friday changes that calculus dramatically.

    Congress has already made the ACA unconstitutional when it repealed the individual mandate.. if that one section of the ACA is unconstitutional then the entire law, containing somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 pages,counting rules, regulations, and proposed regulations needs to be thrown out.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

     

    Exactly, people will need help during this hardship.

    And I believe majority of Americans will love to help each other.

    They sure will!

    trump's lies and failures have created a mess so big it will take years to fix -- by competent people.

    Once again a republican administration has ph*cked us all really good!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

     

    Exactly, people will need help during this hardship.

    And I believe majority of Americans will love to help each other.

    They sure will!

    trump's lies and failures have created a mess so big it will take years to fix -- by competent people.

    Once again a republican administration has ph*cked us all really good!

     

     
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    The name I'm hearing on the street is...........................Barbara Lagoa.

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    The name I'm hearing on the street is...........................Barbara Lagoa.

     
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    Lisa Murkowski has joined Collins in stating that the election will dictate the nominee.  One more and this is dead in water.... Romney? 

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    Lisa Murkowski has joined Collins in stating that the election will dictate the nominee.  One more and this is dead in water.... Romney? 

     
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    Cory Gardner and Mit Romney are now the deciding votes.

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    Cory Gardner and Mit Romney are now the deciding votes.

     
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    The legacy of O's Affordable Care Act.

    My daughter is a person who will dutifully (spelled correctly djbrow) comply.

    The long story short

     First. The definition of a deductible is 'responsiblity.'

    My daughter's ACA plan had a monthly premium of $150 with a deductible of $7,000.

    Her annual responsibility before she 'might' be allotted coverage was $10,200!

    The intellectual (spelled correctly djbrow) Left calls this an insurance policy! 

    This is what they call a legacy! Gimme a break!

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    The legacy of O's Affordable Care Act.

    My daughter is a person who will dutifully (spelled correctly djbrow) comply.

    The long story short

     First. The definition of a deductible is 'responsiblity.'

    My daughter's ACA plan had a monthly premium of $150 with a deductible of $7,000.

    Her annual responsibility before she 'might' be allotted coverage was $10,200!

    The intellectual (spelled correctly djbrow) Left calls this an insurance policy! 

    This is what they call a legacy! Gimme a break!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    The name I'm hearing on the street is...........................Barbara Lagoa.

     

    Judge Amy Barrett. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    The name I'm hearing on the street is...........................Barbara Lagoa.

     

    Judge Amy Barrett. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The legacy of O's Affordable Care Act. My daughter is a person who will dutifully (spelled correctly djbrow) comply. The long story short  First. The definition of a deductible is 'responsiblity.' My daughter's ACA plan had a monthly premium of $150 with a deductible of $7,000. Her annual responsibility before she 'might' be allotted coverage was $10,200! The intellectual (spelled correctly djbrow) Left calls this an insurance policy!  This is what they call a legacy! Gimme a break!

     

    Assuming any of this is true (the daughter part), it makes no logical sense. The ACA doesn't mandate high deductible policies. In fact, it eliminated them. With that said, $7000 deductibles existed before and after the Act's passage. In other words, in a situation like the above, nothing was changed. The only possible change was that your daughter was mandated to have insurance coverage. One would hope she has coverage before the Act passed. Most parents would want their children to have health insurance. 

     

    By the way, its 'responsibility.' 

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The legacy of O's Affordable Care Act. My daughter is a person who will dutifully (spelled correctly djbrow) comply. The long story short  First. The definition of a deductible is 'responsiblity.' My daughter's ACA plan had a monthly premium of $150 with a deductible of $7,000. Her annual responsibility before she 'might' be allotted coverage was $10,200! The intellectual (spelled correctly djbrow) Left calls this an insurance policy!  This is what they call a legacy! Gimme a break!

     

    Assuming any of this is true (the daughter part), it makes no logical sense. The ACA doesn't mandate high deductible policies. In fact, it eliminated them. With that said, $7000 deductibles existed before and after the Act's passage. In other words, in a situation like the above, nothing was changed. The only possible change was that your daughter was mandated to have insurance coverage. One would hope she has coverage before the Act passed. Most parents would want their children to have health insurance. 

     

    By the way, its 'responsibility.' 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow: Wow. An entire post and nothing was factually right. That is disappointing even from what we have come to expect from you.  1) it is accepting, not excepting  2) Justice White retired during the Clinton administration and was replaced by Justice Ginsburg. Bush would not have been involved in that process.  3) I'm sure your family is very proud of you and your portrait hangs on the wall right next to George Wallace. That's Uncle George..if he had won the Presidency ...there would not have been a Peace Corp..and the virginity of all those young girls would have been saved..

     

    an_roll_laughWell played, sir, well played. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow: Wow. An entire post and nothing was factually right. That is disappointing even from what we have come to expect from you.  1) it is accepting, not excepting  2) Justice White retired during the Clinton administration and was replaced by Justice Ginsburg. Bush would not have been involved in that process.  3) I'm sure your family is very proud of you and your portrait hangs on the wall right next to George Wallace. That's Uncle George..if he had won the Presidency ...there would not have been a Peace Corp..and the virginity of all those young girls would have been saved..

     

    an_roll_laughWell played, sir, well played. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    It is worth the political headache. Trump can not trust the vote of Justice Roberts should this election get thrown to the Supreme Court. Jmho.

    To me it sounds like people think Trump will lose the election hence the rush to "fill the seat!"  If that's the case, you better believe there will be full blown unrest if that occurs.  Waiting for the election is best call and it prevents additional chaos that must result otherwise.  I hope cooler heads prevail but I have learned this country is just partisan as hell.  The tribalism has only increased ten fold over the past four years; either people trust Trump will win or they don't at this point.

    Just a clown... doing clown things
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    It is worth the political headache. Trump can not trust the vote of Justice Roberts should this election get thrown to the Supreme Court. Jmho.

    To me it sounds like people think Trump will lose the election hence the rush to "fill the seat!"  If that's the case, you better believe there will be full blown unrest if that occurs.  Waiting for the election is best call and it prevents additional chaos that must result otherwise.  I hope cooler heads prevail but I have learned this country is just partisan as hell.  The tribalism has only increased ten fold over the past four years; either people trust Trump will win or they don't at this point.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The legacy of O's Affordable Care Act. My daughter is a person who will dutifully (spelled correctly djbrow) comply. The long story short  First. The definition of a deductible is 'responsiblity.' My daughter's ACA plan had a monthly premium of $150 with a deductible of $7,000. Her annual responsibility before she 'might' be allotted coverage was $10,200! The intellectual (spelled correctly djbrow) Left calls this an insurance policy!  This is what they call a legacy! Gimme a break!   Assuming any of this is true (the daughter part), it makes no logical sense. The ACA doesn't mandate high deductible policies. In fact, it eliminated them. With that said, $7000 deductibles existed before and after the Act's passage. In other words, in a situation like the above, nothing was changed. The only possible change was that your daughter was mandated to have insurance coverage. One would hope she has coverage before the Act passed. Most parents would want their children to have health insurance.    By the way, its 'responsibility.'

    Agree, DJ. Pre-ACA insurance market, insurance companies have no upper limited on the co-pay patients have to pay, but there is the upper limit under the ACA. Also, before people with pre existing conditions will NOT get an insurance, insurance companies simply deny these people's applications.

    One of my co-worker has had stomach cancer surgery in other country, he could not get any insurance coverage before ACA. He has the coverage now, also people will get denied insurance with a common medical condition, hypertension. 

    Also, if sundance doesn't like his daughter's ACA coverage. He can simply ask his daughter to drop out of the ACA insurance, thanks to GOP's take away of the mandate. But to guard this suggestion, she'd better sign up another health plan before sign off the ACA. People who without a health coverage are in peril situation, it will cause pretty havoc when comes with unexpected astronomical medical bills.

    The other day, a buddy of mine tainted with Legionella pneumonia, he went in and out of ER for couple of times. In the end of the day when he recovered from the pneumonia, he got over $250,000 medical bill. Thankfully, he is covered! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The legacy of O's Affordable Care Act. My daughter is a person who will dutifully (spelled correctly djbrow) comply. The long story short  First. The definition of a deductible is 'responsiblity.' My daughter's ACA plan had a monthly premium of $150 with a deductible of $7,000. Her annual responsibility before she 'might' be allotted coverage was $10,200! The intellectual (spelled correctly djbrow) Left calls this an insurance policy!  This is what they call a legacy! Gimme a break!   Assuming any of this is true (the daughter part), it makes no logical sense. The ACA doesn't mandate high deductible policies. In fact, it eliminated them. With that said, $7000 deductibles existed before and after the Act's passage. In other words, in a situation like the above, nothing was changed. The only possible change was that your daughter was mandated to have insurance coverage. One would hope she has coverage before the Act passed. Most parents would want their children to have health insurance.    By the way, its 'responsibility.'

    Agree, DJ. Pre-ACA insurance market, insurance companies have no upper limited on the co-pay patients have to pay, but there is the upper limit under the ACA. Also, before people with pre existing conditions will NOT get an insurance, insurance companies simply deny these people's applications.

    One of my co-worker has had stomach cancer surgery in other country, he could not get any insurance coverage before ACA. He has the coverage now, also people will get denied insurance with a common medical condition, hypertension. 

    Also, if sundance doesn't like his daughter's ACA coverage. He can simply ask his daughter to drop out of the ACA insurance, thanks to GOP's take away of the mandate. But to guard this suggestion, she'd better sign up another health plan before sign off the ACA. People who without a health coverage are in peril situation, it will cause pretty havoc when comes with unexpected astronomical medical bills.

    The other day, a buddy of mine tainted with Legionella pneumonia, he went in and out of ER for couple of times. In the end of the day when he recovered from the pneumonia, he got over $250,000 medical bill. Thankfully, he is covered! 

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