Georgia enacts tough immigration law, expects to lose $300 million

based on what i read, many pesticides have not been properly tested and some of the ones that have been tested and are dangerous are still in use.  and i'm not sure i trust the government or a company selling pesticides when they say the other pesticides that have been tested are safe.  take all this together and i'm avoiding these products as much as possible. 

Unless you grow things yourself how can really be sure where it came from and what was used on it. Even if you grow it yourself you need to have the soil tested, there are a lot of sub-divisions built on what used to be farmland.

 

good point, there are no guarantees.  you just have to read and do research on different growers/companies.  but there is information out there if you look for it. 

I understand the concerns (I have the same concerns about drinking water) In most cases a farmer is not going to use anything that is harmful, because he would be putting him and his family at risk

maybe the smaller farmers but these big operations using illegals to pick their crops couldn't give a shit, i would imagine. 

it is estimated that more than 70% of migrant farm workers in florida are illegal.   

i agree, their should be plenty of lazy sods in georgia collecting the welfare, make them earn it

hell, i dont mind if they form a fucking union and then get fat pensions

i mean why not, that should keep the price of veggies down

or we could hire the illegals to teach our kids, at least they would learn some spanish

 

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AS for the farmers in Georgia, wouldn't it be nice if the government could link the unemployed in the area with the farmers. The farmer could pay minimum wage and the government could add $ 2 or $3 on to that.
That way the workers could make more money then they could sitting at home, the would be paying them less in unemployment, and the farmers would get their crops out of the fields without having to hire illegals.

If the people on unemployment don't show up, or show up and don't do the work they lose their benefits.

because no one would pick veggies when they can sit at home and do nothing and still get a check

actual work is a foreign concept to those cheating the system

that would have to be a stipulation

then again, i dont find anything wrong with putting the prisoners out there to pick the veggies

they could put the non violent offenders out there to work some time off their sentence, a win/win

You are right nobody is going to want to do when they can sit do nothing and make close to same amount of money. Maybe the government adds on $ 4 or $ 5 per hour so they could more money, and the government could still save by not having to pay them full unemployment.

Jeff and Rooster:

Unde rGeorgia Governor Deal's plan there is no mandatory requirement for parolees or probationers to take these farming jobs and probationers will receive a wage of $7.25 to $9 per hour, with no benefits, paid by private farmers and not by state funds.

The 2011 Georgia state minimum wage rate is $5.25 per hour....

thanks for proving yourself an idiot.  early you made a blanket statement then 5 posts later invalidate that post, brilliant.  if you dont know something, dont make a statement that you do, its a pretty simple concept

im not understanding why you dont think a rotting piece of food is unhealthy?  you just admitted that pesticides make the food not rot as fast, ergo the food stays healthier longer.

i guess its a good thing your presumably unqualified self isnt in charge and qualified scientists are.

show me where i contradicted myself.  in the meantime, i'll help you with your reading comprehension.  my point has always been that the effect of spraying fruits and vegetables with many pesticides and chemicals is dangerous to us.  read a book (or have someone read one to you, maybe an audio book), do some research (you can look that word up here) and i think you'll find a lot of sources that agree with that.

i continue to say that i don't know of any pesticides that make the food healthier.  i don't think there is one.   i haven't, in fact, researched all of the thousands of pesticides out there but i'm yet to hear of one that makes food healthier.  as i said before, if you know of one, show us your information and we can evaluate it.  

my comment to kapono, who always gets the benefit of the doubt because unlike yourself, he has intelligent things to say on various subjects, was that keeping food around longer, although unnaturally and dangerously, can be considered a benefit to people who need to eat something, even if it is tainted with dangerour pesticides, i.e. in those countries like somalia where there may be a shortage of food or food needs to travel a long way.  however, for the overwhelming majority of us who have free access to food and can make choices, pesticides and chemicals are dangerous and should be avoided. 

to continue our reading comrpehension instruction, show me where i said a rotting piece of food isn't unhealthy?  i didn't.  what i did say is that the dangerous pesticides and chemicals don't make the food healthy just because they keep them from rotting.  you see, fruit and vegetables can be unhealthy even though they look good if they have dangerous pesticides and chemical residue on them. 

when you get old enough to shop for yourself, you don't have to choose the rotting fruit/vegetables or the ones sprayed with a shit ton of chemicals and pesticides.  you can save up your allowance or food stamps and buy organic from reputable sources.  

let me access a small portion of my brain and try to understand your point.  i think it is that pesticides make the food healthy or healthier because they keep the food from rotting longer.  watch this video about mcdonalds french fries.  it's a very simple experimient, you may not understand it.  after one year, they look exactly the same because they are treated with chemicals and preservatives.  do you think the chemicals made them healthy because they stay looking good for one year?  you probably do.  the organic french fries are molded and decomposing within a week.  try to stay with me. i'm not saying you should eat the decomposed organic french fries.  what this shows is that the cehmicals do very unnatural things to our food and should not be consumed.

now, show me what you still don't comprehend and i'll go over it one more time. 

i'm hesitant to move on because this is a lot for you to take in.  but this does address your argument.  do you think an apple today is as healthy as an apple 30 years ago? 

all you have to do is go back and reread your posts

from post 11

"but how is that you think using pesticides makes food healthier?"

sure you didnt say any pesticides, but you surely implied it

from post 19

"maybe there is one [a pesticide that makes food healthier], but i don't know of it."

from post 44

"i continue to say that i don't know of any pesticides that make the food healthier.  i don't think there is one.   i haven't, in fact, researched all of the thousands of pesticides out there but i'm yet to hear of one that makes food healthier. "

lets clear this up, first you say pesticides dont make food healthier, then you say you dont know, then you admit to not knowing about all the different pesticides out there.  objection your honor, lay witness opinion/speculation.

if you dont know something for certain, then you should say something to the effect of "i could be wrong, but im pretty sure ______"

and what is that shit about mcds fries.  i know what your problem is, you think french fries grow on a farm?  are you really saying that mcds simply buys potatoes from the farmers, slices them up, and does nothing to them???? hey, i got some nice ocean from property to sell you in my neighborhood (i live in vegas btw)

reasonable to what? the going rate for the illegals

you sure do like to assume quite a bit

i dont recall mentioning any freebie for the farmer

now go pick a fight with someone else, i dont want to end up like be easy

jinvegas,

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