Georgia enacts tough immigration law, expects to lose $300 million
good thing they have pesticides and other chemicals they can spray on the fruits and vegetables to extend their shelf lives way beyond what is natural whle they try and find people who will do the farm work for slave wages but still much more than the illegals made. and we get a more expensive product that is much more dangerous.
good thing they have pesticides and other chemicals they can spray on the fruits and vegetables to extend their shelf lives way beyond what is natural whle they try and find people who will do the farm work for slave wages but still much more than the illegals made. and we get a more expensive product that is much more dangerous.
good thing they have pesticides and other chemicals they can spray on the fruits and vegetables to extend their shelf lives way beyond what is natural whle they try and find people who will do the farm work for slave wages but still much more than the illegals made. and we get a more expensive product that is much more dangerous.
Yeah because the sum total of the illegal situation is the face price of their labor. They might "work cheap" but they cost the country in a BIG way. $10,000 per illegal per year is a credible figure.
good thing they have pesticides and other chemicals they can spray on the fruits and vegetables to extend their shelf lives way beyond what is natural whle they try and find people who will do the farm work for slave wages but still much more than the illegals made. and we get a more expensive product that is much more dangerous.
Yeah because the sum total of the illegal situation is the face price of their labor. They might "work cheap" but they cost the country in a BIG way. $10,000 per illegal per year is a credible figure.
Yeah because the sum total of the illegal situation is the face price of their labor. They might "work cheap" but they cost the country in a BIG way. $10,000 per illegal per year is a credible figure.
Yeah because the sum total of the illegal situation is the face price of their labor. They might "work cheap" but they cost the country in a BIG way. $10,000 per illegal per year is a credible figure.
good thing they have pesticides and other chemicals they can spray on the fruits and vegetables to extend their shelf lives way beyond what is natural whle they try and find people who will do the farm work for slave wages but still much more than the illegals made. and we get a more expensive product that is much more dangerous.
why in the world would you think using pesticides to make food healthier for human consumption is a bad thing?
i guess you want farmers to go back to the 1800s farming methods when famine and diseased food was much more prevalent than today
are you also against the pollution cars emit? seems like having a shorter shelf life for food would case people to make many more trips to the grocery store.
good thing they have pesticides and other chemicals they can spray on the fruits and vegetables to extend their shelf lives way beyond what is natural whle they try and find people who will do the farm work for slave wages but still much more than the illegals made. and we get a more expensive product that is much more dangerous.
why in the world would you think using pesticides to make food healthier for human consumption is a bad thing?
i guess you want farmers to go back to the 1800s farming methods when famine and diseased food was much more prevalent than today
are you also against the pollution cars emit? seems like having a shorter shelf life for food would case people to make many more trips to the grocery store.
why in the world would you think using pesticides to make food healthier for human consumption is a bad thing?
i guess you want farmers to go back to the 1800s farming methods when famine and diseased food was much more prevalent than today
are you also against the pollution cars emit? seems like having a shorter shelf life for food would case people to make many more trips to the grocery store.
Based on experiments in laboratory animals, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has identified at least ninety-six different pesticide active ingredients registered for use that are potential human carcinogens.[6] Studies of human populations, particularly farmers, also demonstrate the carcinogenic potential of certain pesticides. A 1992 National Cancer Institute review of two dozen epidemiological studies found pesticides to be one of five likely suspects explaining why farmers had elevated risks of several forms of cancer including Hodgkin's disease, multiple myeloma, leukemia, melanoma, and cancers of the lip.[7] There is some evidence that the breakdown product of the organochlorine pesticide DDT, which is now banned but still persists in the environment, may be associated with breast cancer.[8]
Studies demonstrate that in addition to acute poisoning, pesticides can cause long-term damage to the nervous system. Every year, an estimated 300,000 farmworkers are poisoned by pesticides.[9] According to the Office of Technology Assessment, an estimated 4 to 9 percent of agricultural and other workers acutely poisoned by pesticides experience delayed persistent neurological and psychiatric effects including agitation, insomnia, weakness, nervousness, irritation, forgetfulness, confusion, and depression.[10] Additional studies of agricultural workers indicate that pesticide poisoning can lead to poor performance on tests involving intellectual functioning, motor skills, and memory.[11]
Some pesticides are associated with diminishing reproductive capacity and causing birth defects. The state of California maintains a list of reproductive toxins that currently includes fifteen pesticides, ten of which are still in use. The California Department of Pesticide Regulation (DPR) evaluates pesticides for their potential to cause birth defects and reproductive harm. Of the sixty-three chemicals evaluated by the DPR, fifteen have tested positive for birth defects and twenty-two have tested positive for other reproductive effects in experimental studies.[12]
There is growing awareness in the scientific community that toxic chemicals, including pesticides, can damage the immune system. Laboratory animal studies indicate a variety of immunotoxic effects from exposure to certain pesticides, particularly several organochlorine and organophosphate insecticides.[13] The immune system plays a critical role in helping ward off disease.
why in the world would you think using pesticides to make food healthier for human consumption is a bad thing?
i guess you want farmers to go back to the 1800s farming methods when famine and diseased food was much more prevalent than today
are you also against the pollution cars emit? seems like having a shorter shelf life for food would case people to make many more trips to the grocery store.
Based on experiments in laboratory animals, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has identified at least ninety-six different pesticide active ingredients registered for use that are potential human carcinogens.[6] Studies of human populations, particularly farmers, also demonstrate the carcinogenic potential of certain pesticides. A 1992 National Cancer Institute review of two dozen epidemiological studies found pesticides to be one of five likely suspects explaining why farmers had elevated risks of several forms of cancer including Hodgkin's disease, multiple myeloma, leukemia, melanoma, and cancers of the lip.[7] There is some evidence that the breakdown product of the organochlorine pesticide DDT, which is now banned but still persists in the environment, may be associated with breast cancer.[8]
Studies demonstrate that in addition to acute poisoning, pesticides can cause long-term damage to the nervous system. Every year, an estimated 300,000 farmworkers are poisoned by pesticides.[9] According to the Office of Technology Assessment, an estimated 4 to 9 percent of agricultural and other workers acutely poisoned by pesticides experience delayed persistent neurological and psychiatric effects including agitation, insomnia, weakness, nervousness, irritation, forgetfulness, confusion, and depression.[10] Additional studies of agricultural workers indicate that pesticide poisoning can lead to poor performance on tests involving intellectual functioning, motor skills, and memory.[11]
Some pesticides are associated with diminishing reproductive capacity and causing birth defects. The state of California maintains a list of reproductive toxins that currently includes fifteen pesticides, ten of which are still in use. The California Department of Pesticide Regulation (DPR) evaluates pesticides for their potential to cause birth defects and reproductive harm. Of the sixty-three chemicals evaluated by the DPR, fifteen have tested positive for birth defects and twenty-two have tested positive for other reproductive effects in experimental studies.[12]
There is growing awareness in the scientific community that toxic chemicals, including pesticides, can damage the immune system. Laboratory animal studies indicate a variety of immunotoxic effects from exposure to certain pesticides, particularly several organochlorine and organophosphate insecticides.[13] The immune system plays a critical role in helping ward off disease.
why in the world would you think using pesticides to make food healthier for human consumption is a bad thing?
why in the world would you think using pesticides to make food healthier for human consumption is a bad thing?
This is what happens when politicians make decisions based on the image of their policies. Any rational person could have predicted this, yet the legislators failed to take it into consideration.
This is what happens when politicians make decisions based on the image of their policies. Any rational person could have predicted this, yet the legislators failed to take it into consideration.
so you dont think theres a single pesticide or chemical that can be used that will make food healthier for human consumption???
this isnt even debatable, when you go to the grocery store and buy a piece of fruit, do you buy the one thats ripe and colorful or the one thats rotting and has bugs???
im not saying the stuff used by farmers explicitly makes the food healthier, but i am saying it greatly helps prevent many factors that make the food unhealthy.
so you dont think theres a single pesticide or chemical that can be used that will make food healthier for human consumption???
this isnt even debatable, when you go to the grocery store and buy a piece of fruit, do you buy the one thats ripe and colorful or the one thats rotting and has bugs???
im not saying the stuff used by farmers explicitly makes the food healthier, but i am saying it greatly helps prevent many factors that make the food unhealthy.
The "doing jobs Americans don't want to do is largely crap."
The "doing jobs Americans don't want to do is largely crap."
People get almost as much money for unemployment as they would for working on a farm. I used to know a guy that work on a farm 6 months a year and collect unemployment the other 6 months.
He worked 60 hours a week and only made $25 a week more then he did on unemployment. If he missed a day of work and only had 50 hours for the week he made less then unemployment.
People get almost as much money for unemployment as they would for working on a farm. I used to know a guy that work on a farm 6 months a year and collect unemployment the other 6 months.
He worked 60 hours a week and only made $25 a week more then he did on unemployment. If he missed a day of work and only had 50 hours for the week he made less then unemployment.
send in the welfare babies to pick your veggies
If all of the trailor trash that collect SSI/SSD with false claims of not being able to work were to work on the farm the problem would be solved...
But you have illegals outworking lazy americans
send in the welfare babies to pick your veggies
If all of the trailor trash that collect SSI/SSD with false claims of not being able to work were to work on the farm the problem would be solved...
But you have illegals outworking lazy americans
so you dont think theres a single pesticide or chemical that can be used that will make food healthier for human consumption???
this isnt even debatable, when you go to the grocery store and buy a piece of fruit, do you buy the one thats ripe and colorful or the one thats rotting and has bugs???
im not saying the stuff used by farmers explicitly makes the food healthier, but i am saying it greatly helps prevent many factors that make the food unhealthy.
i don't know of any pesticide or chemical that makes food healthier. maybe there is one, but i don't know of it. if there is, show us some research and we can evaluate it. i do know of many pesticides and chemicals that do a good job of keeping fruit and vegetables around longer which is designed to increase profits for the agriculture industry. i'm skeptical that this coincides with making the product healthier but again, i'm not the expert so i'll happily read objective contradictory research.
as for your other question, i wouldn't buy the rotted fruit. i used to buy the fruit and vegetables that looked big and ripe and perfect until i read what is sprayed on those products to make them look that way for a longer period of time than is natural. now, i buy organic fruit adn vegetables and also clean them as a precaution.
so you dont think theres a single pesticide or chemical that can be used that will make food healthier for human consumption???
this isnt even debatable, when you go to the grocery store and buy a piece of fruit, do you buy the one thats ripe and colorful or the one thats rotting and has bugs???
im not saying the stuff used by farmers explicitly makes the food healthier, but i am saying it greatly helps prevent many factors that make the food unhealthy.
i don't know of any pesticide or chemical that makes food healthier. maybe there is one, but i don't know of it. if there is, show us some research and we can evaluate it. i do know of many pesticides and chemicals that do a good job of keeping fruit and vegetables around longer which is designed to increase profits for the agriculture industry. i'm skeptical that this coincides with making the product healthier but again, i'm not the expert so i'll happily read objective contradictory research.
as for your other question, i wouldn't buy the rotted fruit. i used to buy the fruit and vegetables that looked big and ripe and perfect until i read what is sprayed on those products to make them look that way for a longer period of time than is natural. now, i buy organic fruit adn vegetables and also clean them as a precaution.
one more thing, even if there is some magical, artificial chemical that makes food fruit adn vegetables healthier, i still doubt it compensates for the thousands of pesticides and chemicals sprayed on our food that i believe are dangerous.
one more thing, even if there is some magical, artificial chemical that makes food fruit adn vegetables healthier, i still doubt it compensates for the thousands of pesticides and chemicals sprayed on our food that i believe are dangerous.
I don't know about agriculture per se, but all you need to do is go to parts of the country not overrun by illegal immigration and look to see who is working the fast food and other minimum wage jobs. Here's a hint, it's not the illegals.
The "doing jobs Americans don't want to do is largely crap."
i don't know that you can compare fast food jobs and other minimum wage jobs to migrant farm worker jobs, which may be the toughest jobs in this country. read up on the migrant farm industry if you haven't. it's some crazy shit.
but i guess we'll see. in georgia, which has a pretty significant agricultural business, we'll see what happens with the jobs that aren't being filled and the hundred of millions in losses. i seriously doubt florida, which has a much bigger agricultural industry, follows georgia's lead. they are way too reliant on illegals.
I don't know about agriculture per se, but all you need to do is go to parts of the country not overrun by illegal immigration and look to see who is working the fast food and other minimum wage jobs. Here's a hint, it's not the illegals.
The "doing jobs Americans don't want to do is largely crap."
i don't know that you can compare fast food jobs and other minimum wage jobs to migrant farm worker jobs, which may be the toughest jobs in this country. read up on the migrant farm industry if you haven't. it's some crazy shit.
but i guess we'll see. in georgia, which has a pretty significant agricultural business, we'll see what happens with the jobs that aren't being filled and the hundred of millions in losses. i seriously doubt florida, which has a much bigger agricultural industry, follows georgia's lead. they are way too reliant on illegals.
im astounded that we have a society that cant find citizens to pick crops when we have such high unemployment. why is that and is this status quo sustainable
Really DrJ? I'm not surprised one bit. You ever seen what its like to work in the fields? I am engulfed by agriculture where I am living, and let me tell you, that stuff is not easy work by any stretch of the imagination.
im astounded that we have a society that cant find citizens to pick crops when we have such high unemployment. why is that and is this status quo sustainable
Really DrJ? I'm not surprised one bit. You ever seen what its like to work in the fields? I am engulfed by agriculture where I am living, and let me tell you, that stuff is not easy work by any stretch of the imagination.
i don't know of any pesticide or chemical that makes food healthier. maybe there is one, but i don't know of it. if there is, show us some research and we can evaluate it. i do know of many pesticides and chemicals that do a good job of keeping fruit and vegetables around longer which is designed to increase profits for the agriculture industry. i'm skeptical that this coincides with making the product healthier but again, i'm not the expert so i'll happily read objective contradictory research.
as for your other question, i wouldn't buy the rotted fruit. i used to buy the fruit and vegetables that looked big and ripe and perfect until i read what is sprayed on those products to make them look that way for a longer period of time than is natural. now, i buy organic fruit adn vegetables and also clean them as a precaution.
Keep agriculture around longer CD isn't just to increase agricultural profits, but it also greatly stabilizes the food chain as well. You want periods of drought or excess with food? No, in theory you want a regular supply available (give or take a few percentage points) to the marketplace. That's not just a profit approach but also a consumer benefit approach.
i don't know of any pesticide or chemical that makes food healthier. maybe there is one, but i don't know of it. if there is, show us some research and we can evaluate it. i do know of many pesticides and chemicals that do a good job of keeping fruit and vegetables around longer which is designed to increase profits for the agriculture industry. i'm skeptical that this coincides with making the product healthier but again, i'm not the expert so i'll happily read objective contradictory research.
as for your other question, i wouldn't buy the rotted fruit. i used to buy the fruit and vegetables that looked big and ripe and perfect until i read what is sprayed on those products to make them look that way for a longer period of time than is natural. now, i buy organic fruit adn vegetables and also clean them as a precaution.
Keep agriculture around longer CD isn't just to increase agricultural profits, but it also greatly stabilizes the food chain as well. You want periods of drought or excess with food? No, in theory you want a regular supply available (give or take a few percentage points) to the marketplace. That's not just a profit approach but also a consumer benefit approach.
Keep agriculture around longer CD isn't just to increase agricultural profits, but it also greatly stabilizes the food chain as well. You want periods of drought or excess with food? No, in theory you want a regular supply available (give or take a few percentage points) to the marketplace. That's not just a profit approach but also a consumer benefit approach.
i suppose, but i don't see the benefit of eating food sprayed with dangerous pesticides and chemicals. i guess if you are struggling to find food, you are benefitted, but anyone with the luxury of making choices should really consider what they are eating. also, it's hard to learn about monsanto and use the term, "consumer benefit."
Keep agriculture around longer CD isn't just to increase agricultural profits, but it also greatly stabilizes the food chain as well. You want periods of drought or excess with food? No, in theory you want a regular supply available (give or take a few percentage points) to the marketplace. That's not just a profit approach but also a consumer benefit approach.
i suppose, but i don't see the benefit of eating food sprayed with dangerous pesticides and chemicals. i guess if you are struggling to find food, you are benefitted, but anyone with the luxury of making choices should really consider what they are eating. also, it's hard to learn about monsanto and use the term, "consumer benefit."
i suppose, but i don't see the benefit of eating food sprayed with dangerous pesticides and chemicals. i guess if you are struggling to find food, you are benefitted, but anyone with the luxury of making choices should really consider what they are eating. also, it's hard to learn about monsanto and use the term, "consumer benefit."
Therein lies the distinction -- most of the pesticides and chemicals that are currently understood to be dangerous to consumers are banned and cannot be used on products. Does that mean they are all safe? No, I mean of course we can only be as sure that a certain chemical or pesticide is safe in accordance with our current scientific knowledge on its effects, long and short term. That's the best we can do now though unless you got some way for us to go into the future
i suppose, but i don't see the benefit of eating food sprayed with dangerous pesticides and chemicals. i guess if you are struggling to find food, you are benefitted, but anyone with the luxury of making choices should really consider what they are eating. also, it's hard to learn about monsanto and use the term, "consumer benefit."
Therein lies the distinction -- most of the pesticides and chemicals that are currently understood to be dangerous to consumers are banned and cannot be used on products. Does that mean they are all safe? No, I mean of course we can only be as sure that a certain chemical or pesticide is safe in accordance with our current scientific knowledge on its effects, long and short term. That's the best we can do now though unless you got some way for us to go into the future
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