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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 11:31 AM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to NPR, ethics experts raise concerns of Musk running into conflicts of interest.  State department to purchase $400 million worth of armored Tesla vehicles.  Rampant cronyism and corruption are among the characteristics of fascism.

    Musk just got a new 40 billion dollar space x contract this week, while this south african piece of shit is trying to destroy our country.  Govt also ordering new telsas.  No conflict of interest happening there.  Wake up people before its too late. While hes got all the fools making you look one way and telling you all the so called govt waste, hes filling his pockets up.

    A CONFIRMED DRUG USER IS NOW IN CHARGE OF OUR COUNTRY AND DOING WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS TO STEAL OUR TAX DOLLARS. Might as well rename Our Country X cause he clearly owns it now.

    Musk now saying people that are 150 years old are collecting social security.  This guy is such a fuckin liar and is gonna use fake shit like that to stop paying people their social security money.  Says all agencies need to be closed.  If all you dumb magas cant grasp that his bullshit is gonna affect your lives, you are all clueless, hopeless people.

    Now it makes sense why putin wants to end the war in UIkraine, hes got his 2 hand picked puppets running our country now and he can now finally destroy America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to NPR, ethics experts raise concerns of Musk running into conflicts of interest.  State department to purchase $400 million worth of armored Tesla vehicles.  Rampant cronyism and corruption are among the characteristics of fascism.

    Musk just got a new 40 billion dollar space x contract this week, while this south african piece of shit is trying to destroy our country.  Govt also ordering new telsas.  No conflict of interest happening there.  Wake up people before its too late. While hes got all the fools making you look one way and telling you all the so called govt waste, hes filling his pockets up.

    A CONFIRMED DRUG USER IS NOW IN CHARGE OF OUR COUNTRY AND DOING WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS TO STEAL OUR TAX DOLLARS. Might as well rename Our Country X cause he clearly owns it now.

    Musk now saying people that are 150 years old are collecting social security.  This guy is such a fuckin liar and is gonna use fake shit like that to stop paying people their social security money.  Says all agencies need to be closed.  If all you dumb magas cant grasp that his bullshit is gonna affect your lives, you are all clueless, hopeless people.

    Now it makes sense why putin wants to end the war in UIkraine, hes got his 2 hand picked puppets running our country now and he can now finally destroy America.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 12:11 PM ET #77

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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 12:18 PM ET #78

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     We all wondered where this money was coming from, and I think we have just scratched the surface of the fraud. Think about it, the democrats used our tax dollars to destroy our country.   I completely agree. The Biden administration is getting off scot-free. They stole billions in taxpayer money, BILLIONS! It's an outrage. Biden should have to answer for this/if he can remember.  Let's not forget, his son, Hunter, was busted for tax evasion! This is complete, utter disrespect for taxpayers. Taxpayers were raped by Biden and his administration.  The leftist's at c##### are unhinged.

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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     We all wondered where this money was coming from, and I think we have just scratched the surface of the fraud. Think about it, the democrats used our tax dollars to destroy our country.   I completely agree. The Biden administration is getting off scot-free. They stole billions in taxpayer money, BILLIONS! It's an outrage. Biden should have to answer for this/if he can remember.  Let's not forget, his son, Hunter, was busted for tax evasion! This is complete, utter disrespect for taxpayers. Taxpayers were raped by Biden and his administration.  The leftist's at c##### are unhinged.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 2:57 PM ET #79

    Musk makes broad claims of fraud in government without providing proof. He has incentive to lie because his businesses have been investigated by federal agencies. His social media X  is among the top sources of misinformation on the internet. Ludicrous that unelected and unaccountable Musk can destroy agencies.

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    Musk makes broad claims of fraud in government without providing proof. He has incentive to lie because his businesses have been investigated by federal agencies. His social media X  is among the top sources of misinformation on the internet. Ludicrous that unelected and unaccountable Musk can destroy agencies.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 4:37 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

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    That's the most profound thing you have said so far...shows intellectual depth..

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    That's the most profound thing you have said so far...shows intellectual depth..

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 5:32 PM ET #82

    Elon Musk’s DOGE has revealed that the federal government is using an old limestone mine in Pennsylvania to store tens of thousands, if not millions of physical paper files in cardboard boxes.

    The files are just retirement documents for federal workers, so could easily be digitised, yet the government has continued to physically store them.

    The mine is 230 feet underground and requires over 700 workers with the Office of Personnel Management to operate and upkeep it.

    Musk shared the insane finding, noting “Maybe it’s just me, but I think there is room for improvement here.”

    The vault inside Iron Mountain which is equipped with a huge reservoir for geothermal cooling. 

    A 2021 report uncovered that despite spending $106 million spent trying to digitize the process, the government abandoned the idea and decided to stick with the stone mine.

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    Elon Musk’s DOGE has revealed that the federal government is using an old limestone mine in Pennsylvania to store tens of thousands, if not millions of physical paper files in cardboard boxes.

    The files are just retirement documents for federal workers, so could easily be digitised, yet the government has continued to physically store them.

    The mine is 230 feet underground and requires over 700 workers with the Office of Personnel Management to operate and upkeep it.

    Musk shared the insane finding, noting “Maybe it’s just me, but I think there is room for improvement here.”

    The vault inside Iron Mountain which is equipped with a huge reservoir for geothermal cooling. 

    A 2021 report uncovered that despite spending $106 million spent trying to digitize the process, the government abandoned the idea and decided to stick with the stone mine.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 6:33 PM ET #83

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     Did you see that under the veil of DOGE, 80 million was revoked in congressionally approved FEMA funding from accounts of the NYC Comptroller's office?

    You OK with this?

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     Did you see that under the veil of DOGE, 80 million was revoked in congressionally approved FEMA funding from accounts of the NYC Comptroller's office?

    You OK with this?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 6:39 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Elon Musk’s DOGE has revealed that the federal government is using an old limestone mine in Pennsylvania to store tens of thousands, if not millions of physical paper files in cardboard boxes. The files are just retirement documents for federal workers, so could easily be digitised, yet the government has continued to physically store them. The mine is 230 feet underground and requires over 700 workers with the Office of Personnel Management to operate and upkeep it. Musk shared the insane finding, noting “Maybe it’s just me, but I think there is room for improvement here.” The vault inside Iron Mountain which is equipped with a huge reservoir for geothermal cooling.  A 2021 report uncovered that despite spending $106 million spent trying to digitize the process, the government abandoned the idea and decided to stick with the stone mine.

    The file cabinets full of paper and the massive amounts of space they require are necessary because the system hasn’t changed since the 1970s. Employees at the Office of Personnel Management create individual physical file folders for each retired employee. Even if a piece of paperwork associated with the file starts off in digital form, it has to eventually become a physical paper in the file because there’s no computer system yet that can manage the detailed calculations involved.

    Three attempts to digitize the documents have failed. If DOGE has a solution great! If not, WTF does this news matter?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Elon Musk’s DOGE has revealed that the federal government is using an old limestone mine in Pennsylvania to store tens of thousands, if not millions of physical paper files in cardboard boxes. The files are just retirement documents for federal workers, so could easily be digitised, yet the government has continued to physically store them. The mine is 230 feet underground and requires over 700 workers with the Office of Personnel Management to operate and upkeep it. Musk shared the insane finding, noting “Maybe it’s just me, but I think there is room for improvement here.” The vault inside Iron Mountain which is equipped with a huge reservoir for geothermal cooling.  A 2021 report uncovered that despite spending $106 million spent trying to digitize the process, the government abandoned the idea and decided to stick with the stone mine.

    The file cabinets full of paper and the massive amounts of space they require are necessary because the system hasn’t changed since the 1970s. Employees at the Office of Personnel Management create individual physical file folders for each retired employee. Even if a piece of paperwork associated with the file starts off in digital form, it has to eventually become a physical paper in the file because there’s no computer system yet that can manage the detailed calculations involved.

    Three attempts to digitize the documents have failed. If DOGE has a solution great! If not, WTF does this news matter?

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 6:53 PM ET #85

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      There was a clip a few years back of a Congressman holding up a 8 inch floppy, showing what they were still using for data storage. He commented that it would take a couple million of them to store what the average HD does these days.

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      There was a clip a few years back of a Congressman holding up a 8 inch floppy, showing what they were still using for data storage. He commented that it would take a couple million of them to store what the average HD does these days.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 7:41 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @UNIMAN   There was a clip a few years back of a Congressman holding up a 8 inch floppy, showing what they were still using for data storage. He commented that it would take a couple million of them to store what the average HD does these days.

    It's all about the funding.

    Congress hasn't allocated bucks for the modernization of the archaic legacy systems/applications/software & hardware.

    It's not a sexy project to sell to their constituents, so now that Muskrat has shone a light on the subject I'll wager that still nothing will happen. 

    It's old news already & the outrage that will be gone by next week.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @UNIMAN   There was a clip a few years back of a Congressman holding up a 8 inch floppy, showing what they were still using for data storage. He commented that it would take a couple million of them to store what the average HD does these days.

    It's all about the funding.

    Congress hasn't allocated bucks for the modernization of the archaic legacy systems/applications/software & hardware.

    It's not a sexy project to sell to their constituents, so now that Muskrat has shone a light on the subject I'll wager that still nothing will happen. 

    It's old news already & the outrage that will be gone by next week.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 10:05 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  Did you see that under the veil of DOGE, 80 million was revoked in congressionally approved FEMA funding from accounts of the NYC Comptroller's office? You OK with this?

    If FEMA money is used for illegal migrants to be housed in luxury hotels, I have no problem with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  Did you see that under the veil of DOGE, 80 million was revoked in congressionally approved FEMA funding from accounts of the NYC Comptroller's office? You OK with this?

    If FEMA money is used for illegal migrants to be housed in luxury hotels, I have no problem with it.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 10:07 PM ET #88

    No computer systems to handle detailed calculations?????

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    No computer systems to handle detailed calculations?????

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 11:15 PM ET #89

    Doge is great.  If your clean,  you will have nothing to hide.  Looks like the left and some rightys have a lot of explaining to do.  

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    Doge is great.  If your clean,  you will have nothing to hide.  Looks like the left and some rightys have a lot of explaining to do.  

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2025 - 11:45 PM ET #90

    As part of Biden’s $5 billion Clean School Bus program, Lion Electric was awarded $159 million to produce 435 electric buses. The administration touted it as a hallmark of its climate agenda, with Kamala Harris herself front and center, gushing over the initiative?.

    • Since 2020, the company has lost $301.6 million.
    • Its stock price has collapsed from $33.48 per share to just $0.08—a staggering 99.7% wipeout?.
    • It was hit with a class-action lawsuit after allegedly misleading investors with “grossly unrealistic financial projections”?.

    And yet, the Biden administration kept the money flowing, rewarding a failing company because it fit the “green energy” narrative.

    One of the biggest symbols of this failure is Lion Electric’s 900,000-square-foot factory in Joliet, Illinois.

    • The plant was supposed to create 1,400 jobs.
    • Local officials hyped it as a clean energy success story.
    • Today, it’s a ghost town, with Lion Electric halting operations and laying off workers?.

    Even Joliet’s economic development director admitted, “Now we have in our community a large space that is potentially going to sit vacant for a while.” Translation: We were conned, and now we’re stuck with an empty factory?.

    Lion Electric’s collapse follows a familiar pattern of government-funded green energy disasters:

    1. Biden administration throws taxpayer money at a politically favored company.
    2. Company was already financially unstable but gets millions anyway.
    3. Company burns through cash, fails to deliver, then collapses.
    4. Taxpayers and local communities are left with nothing but empty promises.

    https://iowaclimate.org/2025/02/08/bidens-ev-bus-disaster-another-green-energy-scam-collapses/

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    As part of Biden’s $5 billion Clean School Bus program, Lion Electric was awarded $159 million to produce 435 electric buses. The administration touted it as a hallmark of its climate agenda, with Kamala Harris herself front and center, gushing over the initiative?.

    • Since 2020, the company has lost $301.6 million.
    • Its stock price has collapsed from $33.48 per share to just $0.08—a staggering 99.7% wipeout?.
    • It was hit with a class-action lawsuit after allegedly misleading investors with “grossly unrealistic financial projections”?.

    And yet, the Biden administration kept the money flowing, rewarding a failing company because it fit the “green energy” narrative.

    One of the biggest symbols of this failure is Lion Electric’s 900,000-square-foot factory in Joliet, Illinois.

    • The plant was supposed to create 1,400 jobs.
    • Local officials hyped it as a clean energy success story.
    • Today, it’s a ghost town, with Lion Electric halting operations and laying off workers?.

    Even Joliet’s economic development director admitted, “Now we have in our community a large space that is potentially going to sit vacant for a while.” Translation: We were conned, and now we’re stuck with an empty factory?.

    Lion Electric’s collapse follows a familiar pattern of government-funded green energy disasters:

    1. Biden administration throws taxpayer money at a politically favored company.
    2. Company was already financially unstable but gets millions anyway.
    3. Company burns through cash, fails to deliver, then collapses.
    4. Taxpayers and local communities are left with nothing but empty promises.

    https://iowaclimate.org/2025/02/08/bidens-ev-bus-disaster-another-green-energy-scam-collapses/

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    The US government sent $2.7 TRILLION in Medicare & Medicaid money overseas to people who were NOT eligible to receive it. That’s 8% of our national debt. Medicare isn't going broke. The money is being stolen.    Who are those recipients? Who got kickbacks? We want answers.

    If you happen to be a Democrat / Progressive you should be angry as well !

     

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    The US government sent $2.7 TRILLION in Medicare & Medicaid money overseas to people who were NOT eligible to receive it. That’s 8% of our national debt. Medicare isn't going broke. The money is being stolen.    Who are those recipients? Who got kickbacks? We want answers.

    If you happen to be a Democrat / Progressive you should be angry as well !

     

     
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    just the tip of the iceberg i am afraid.

    the louder the Dems are yelling the more they have to hide.

    Every American should be outraged ! 

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    just the tip of the iceberg i am afraid.

    the louder the Dems are yelling the more they have to hide.

    Every American should be outraged ! 

     
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    Barbarossa ,that is why you hear the left crying , whining,  bitching and spewing horsecrap to the country... they have been stealing and more will come out.  Btw I'm including all parties involved, dem,repub,ind.

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    Barbarossa ,that is why you hear the left crying , whining,  bitching and spewing horsecrap to the country... they have been stealing and more will come out.  Btw I'm including all parties involved, dem,repub,ind.

     
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    "They say if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps the loudest was the one that got hit."

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    "They say if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps the loudest was the one that got hit."

    peace_5

     
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    Without evidence, Musk falsely alleges that FEMA sent $59 million intended for disaster relief to New York to house migrants  according to fact check by Annenberg policy center.  Actually, congress approved funds for Homeland security department to provide housing for migrants awaiting immigration hearings.  As a result, Trump administration illegally revoked $80 million for New York from congress.  Trump and Musk have a history of reneging on legal contracts and refusing to pay.

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    Without evidence, Musk falsely alleges that FEMA sent $59 million intended for disaster relief to New York to house migrants  according to fact check by Annenberg policy center.  Actually, congress approved funds for Homeland security department to provide housing for migrants awaiting immigration hearings.  As a result, Trump administration illegally revoked $80 million for New York from congress.  Trump and Musk have a history of reneging on legal contracts and refusing to pay.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    The US government sent $2.7 TRILLION in Medicare & Medicaid money overseas to people who were NOT eligible to receive it. That’s 8% of our national debt. Medicare isn't going broke. The money is being stolen.    Who are those recipients? Who got kickbacks? We want answers. If you happen to be a Democrat / Progressive you should be angry as well !

    Evidently this goes back to 2003 so there is plenty of blame to go around including Congress.

    Now a plan needs to be developed, not a concept of a plan, to carefully identify loopholes & culprits involved. It's not an easy task but must be done. 

    What can't be done is to use the BROAD BRUSH approach that paints everyone as being an abuser & stopping services for those in need.

    It's easy to identify problems but finding long term solutions...not so easy. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    The US government sent $2.7 TRILLION in Medicare & Medicaid money overseas to people who were NOT eligible to receive it. That’s 8% of our national debt. Medicare isn't going broke. The money is being stolen.    Who are those recipients? Who got kickbacks? We want answers. If you happen to be a Democrat / Progressive you should be angry as well !

    Evidently this goes back to 2003 so there is plenty of blame to go around including Congress.

    Now a plan needs to be developed, not a concept of a plan, to carefully identify loopholes & culprits involved. It's not an easy task but must be done. 

    What can't be done is to use the BROAD BRUSH approach that paints everyone as being an abuser & stopping services for those in need.

    It's easy to identify problems but finding long term solutions...not so easy. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Without evidence, Musk falsely alleges that FEMA sent $59 million intended for disaster relief to New York to house migrants  according to fact check by Annenberg policy center.  Actually, congress approved funds for Homeland security department to provide housing for migrants awaiting immigration hearings.  As a result, Trump administration illegally revoked $80 million for New York from congress.  Trump and Musk have a history of reneging on legal contracts and refusing to pay.

     

     

    Newsweek; https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-scores-legal-victory-over-new-york-fema-funding-2030206

    Afederal judge delivered the Trump administration a legal win on Wednesday when he ruled that it can continue its efforts to withhold tens of millions of dollars in funding for hotel costs for migrants in New York City.

    Doesn't look illegal to me.

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    Without evidence, Musk falsely alleges that FEMA sent $59 million intended for disaster relief to New York to house migrants  according to fact check by Annenberg policy center.  Actually, congress approved funds for Homeland security department to provide housing for migrants awaiting immigration hearings.  As a result, Trump administration illegally revoked $80 million for New York from congress.  Trump and Musk have a history of reneging on legal contracts and refusing to pay.

     

     

    Newsweek; https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-scores-legal-victory-over-new-york-fema-funding-2030206

    Afederal judge delivered the Trump administration a legal win on Wednesday when he ruled that it can continue its efforts to withhold tens of millions of dollars in funding for hotel costs for migrants in New York City.

    Doesn't look illegal to me.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: The US government sent $2.7 TRILLION in Medicare & Medicaid money overseas to people who were NOT eligible to receive it. That’s 8% of our national debt. Medicare isn't going broke. The money is being stolen.    Who are those recipients? Who got kickbacks? We want answers. If you happen to be a Democrat / Progressive you should be angry as well ! Evidently this goes back to 2003 so there is plenty of blame to go around including Congress. Now a plan needs to be developed, not a concept of a plan, to carefully identify loopholes & culprits involved. It's not an easy task but must be done.  What can't be done is to use the BROAD BRUSH approach that paints everyone as being an abuser & stopping services for those in need. It's easy to identify problems but finding long term solutions...not so easy.
    We're seeing that plan in action now. But libs seem to think that everything discovered is on the chopping block. There are still morons out there screaming that SS/Med. is going to be eliminated just for the sake of fear-mongering. We'll not see how much of this really pays off for another year or so, but it had to be started.

     I think part of the reason dems hate it so much is because their party didn't do it, & if it works they'll get no credit for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: The US government sent $2.7 TRILLION in Medicare & Medicaid money overseas to people who were NOT eligible to receive it. That’s 8% of our national debt. Medicare isn't going broke. The money is being stolen.    Who are those recipients? Who got kickbacks? We want answers. If you happen to be a Democrat / Progressive you should be angry as well ! Evidently this goes back to 2003 so there is plenty of blame to go around including Congress. Now a plan needs to be developed, not a concept of a plan, to carefully identify loopholes & culprits involved. It's not an easy task but must be done.  What can't be done is to use the BROAD BRUSH approach that paints everyone as being an abuser & stopping services for those in need. It's easy to identify problems but finding long term solutions...not so easy.
    We're seeing that plan in action now. But libs seem to think that everything discovered is on the chopping block. There are still morons out there screaming that SS/Med. is going to be eliminated just for the sake of fear-mongering. We'll not see how much of this really pays off for another year or so, but it had to be started.

     I think part of the reason dems hate it so much is because their party didn't do it, & if it works they'll get no credit for it.

     
     
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     You are so wrong!

    If & when the Donald is successful then the country is successful. And that's a good thing!

    The problem is the Donald tries to lead with fear, intimidation & threats. That's not going to work.

    So far there is way too much chaos. You can't just take over Gaza. You can't tell Ukraine you want 50% of their rare earth elements for repayment for our war support. You can't fire hundreds of thousands of federal employees without a plan to maintain/improve services & overall operations. He will personally be responsible for the rise in unemployment & screw with families all over the country. You can't continue to insult our allies. Tariffs don't work for the American consumer but this fucker thinks he knows everything about everything.

    The Congress is afraid to question any idea because they will get primaried & will have to got back to work in the real world. Frankly, most in Congress are financially secure & were successful prior to becoming a politician. Now they are a bunch of gutless examples of the Peter Principle.

     

      

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     You are so wrong!

    If & when the Donald is successful then the country is successful. And that's a good thing!

    The problem is the Donald tries to lead with fear, intimidation & threats. That's not going to work.

    So far there is way too much chaos. You can't just take over Gaza. You can't tell Ukraine you want 50% of their rare earth elements for repayment for our war support. You can't fire hundreds of thousands of federal employees without a plan to maintain/improve services & overall operations. He will personally be responsible for the rise in unemployment & screw with families all over the country. You can't continue to insult our allies. Tariffs don't work for the American consumer but this fucker thinks he knows everything about everything.

    The Congress is afraid to question any idea because they will get primaried & will have to got back to work in the real world. Frankly, most in Congress are financially secure & were successful prior to becoming a politician. Now they are a bunch of gutless examples of the Peter Principle.

     

      

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