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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 5:02 PM ET #51

    What is arguable and extremely bigoted? 

    Please explain. (you can’t) 

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    What is arguable and extremely bigoted? 

    Please explain. (you can’t) 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 6:31 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    What is arguable and extremely bigoted? 

    Please explain. (you can’t) 

    Of course I can, but your inability to comprehend may stand in the way of your understanding. Why did your compliments for Planned Parenthood include only the number of black children that would have (theoretically) been born? Are you upset only with racial balance? Obviously if you are on the side of Hillary and Margaret Sanger you must be a Democrat and closet racist. 

    I sure am glad I didn't hold my breath waiting for your latest birther stance. Did someone read and explain the qualifications for natural born citizen and president to you? I doubt it. Your attention span can't be that long or you and the Swede would have understood it years ago. As long as you avoid conceding or defending your point you only show the forum how how unsupportable your argument is. Are you on Twitter? Between you and the Swede that would make Twitter the world's largest disseminator of FAKE NEWS.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    What is arguable and extremely bigoted? 

    Please explain. (you can’t) 

    Of course I can, but your inability to comprehend may stand in the way of your understanding. Why did your compliments for Planned Parenthood include only the number of black children that would have (theoretically) been born? Are you upset only with racial balance? Obviously if you are on the side of Hillary and Margaret Sanger you must be a Democrat and closet racist. 

    I sure am glad I didn't hold my breath waiting for your latest birther stance. Did someone read and explain the qualifications for natural born citizen and president to you? I doubt it. Your attention span can't be that long or you and the Swede would have understood it years ago. As long as you avoid conceding or defending your point you only show the forum how how unsupportable your argument is. Are you on Twitter? Between you and the Swede that would make Twitter the world's largest disseminator of FAKE NEWS.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 6:37 PM ET #53

    I believe that Democrats and Planned Parenthood have targeted the black community. How is that the same side as Hillary? Your argument makes no sense. 

    I posted one of the many arguments in a link on the last page. 

    Not the brightest bulb. 

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    I believe that Democrats and Planned Parenthood have targeted the black community. How is that the same side as Hillary? Your argument makes no sense. 

    I posted one of the many arguments in a link on the last page. 

    Not the brightest bulb. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 11:33 PM ET #54

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146622/Barack-Obama-Kenyan-born-2007-according-literary-agency--months-announcing-bid-U-S-presidency.html

    “Born in Kenya” 
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146622/Barack-Obama-Kenyan-born-2007-according-literary-agency--months-announcing-bid-U-S-presidency.html

    “Born in Kenya” 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 1:12 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    A disproportionate amount of black babies have been aborted. This was Planned Parenthood and the Democratic Parties plan. 

    Very very sad. 

    How you could turn that around to call me a bigot is beyond comprehension. 


    What did they do run 2 fer 1 deals? Pay them? Kidnap them? What was their plan? I really don't expect an answer from you , just run and hide like you usually do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    A disproportionate amount of black babies have been aborted. This was Planned Parenthood and the Democratic Parties plan. 

    Very very sad. 

    How you could turn that around to call me a bigot is beyond comprehension. 


    What did they do run 2 fer 1 deals? Pay them? Kidnap them? What was their plan? I really don't expect an answer from you , just run and hide like you usually do.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 8:46 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146622/Barack-Obama-Kenyan-born-2007-according-literary-agency--months-announcing-bid-U-S-presidency.html

    “Born in Kenya” 
    According to fact checker snopes, editor of Acton and Dystel booklet admits that the mention of Kenyan-born is a error later corrected.  Actually, Obama's father is kenyan while his mother is American.  Proof of Obama US citizenship has long been apparent to any reasonable person open to overwhelming evidence.  However conspiracy theorists often ignore the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146622/Barack-Obama-Kenyan-born-2007-according-literary-agency--months-announcing-bid-U-S-presidency.html

    “Born in Kenya” 
    According to fact checker snopes, editor of Acton and Dystel booklet admits that the mention of Kenyan-born is a error later corrected.  Actually, Obama's father is kenyan while his mother is American.  Proof of Obama US citizenship has long been apparent to any reasonable person open to overwhelming evidence.  However conspiracy theorists often ignore the truth.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 8:49 AM ET #57

    What about his brother that says he was born in Kenya? 

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    What about his brother that says he was born in Kenya? 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 11:49 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    ted cruz was born in Canada . Why would he waste his time and money to run for president if he couldn't be president?

    Lets get your birther putdowns straight: If a child of an American citizen is born OUTSIDE the US,the parent must be a legal resident for 5 years and at least 16 years old.Obama's sluuut mother had him when she was 18 thus if he WAS NOT born on American Soil he would have to be a Naturalized Citizen and an Illegal President.
    Ted Cruz'ss parents were living in Canada when he was Born in 1970.In 1972 BOTH of his parents voted in the Canadian National election and signed to that fact (registered).Only Citizens are allowed to Vote,If his parents are citizens in 72 and not citizens in 70  somethings fishy in Vancouver
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    ted cruz was born in Canada . Why would he waste his time and money to run for president if he couldn't be president?

    Lets get your birther putdowns straight: If a child of an American citizen is born OUTSIDE the US,the parent must be a legal resident for 5 years and at least 16 years old.Obama's sluuut mother had him when she was 18 thus if he WAS NOT born on American Soil he would have to be a Naturalized Citizen and an Illegal President.
    Ted Cruz'ss parents were living in Canada when he was Born in 1970.In 1972 BOTH of his parents voted in the Canadian National election and signed to that fact (registered).Only Citizens are allowed to Vote,If his parents are citizens in 72 and not citizens in 70  somethings fishy in Vancouver
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 12:59 PM ET #59

    it's not about whether he was born there or not. It's about the FORGED DOCUMENT he used as his birth certificate. who cares where he was from? the document he used, wasnt rendered into a single image and it's proof he used a bs document. do you think a natural born citizen would do that? me either
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    it's not about whether he was born there or not. It's about the FORGED DOCUMENT he used as his birth certificate. who cares where he was from? the document he used, wasnt rendered into a single image and it's proof he used a bs document. do you think a natural born citizen would do that? me either
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 1:03 PM ET #60

    they wouldnt let him into Harvard Law School if he was just 'a black kid from the states', he was from kenya or indonesia
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    they wouldnt let him into Harvard Law School if he was just 'a black kid from the states', he was from kenya or indonesia
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 1:30 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:

    it's not about whether he was born there or not. It's about the FORGED DOCUMENT he used as his birth certificate. who cares where he was from? the document he used, wasnt rendered into a single image and it's proof he used a bs document. do you think a natural born citizen would do that? me either
    You related to sundance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:

    it's not about whether he was born there or not. It's about the FORGED DOCUMENT he used as his birth certificate. who cares where he was from? the document he used, wasnt rendered into a single image and it's proof he used a bs document. do you think a natural born citizen would do that? me either
    You related to sundance?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 2:12 PM ET #62

    That is very good darkhorse!
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    That is very good darkhorse!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 2:19 PM ET #63

    you've said that before, i think. Same forums, same people saying trumps getting impeached, russian collusion, rape and pedofiles. I know what that proof means to me, it's sad that you refuse to see that. when u can click and drag a box with an image of a stamp around a page, that is supposed to be a birth certificate (stamped decades ago), it's not possible. all pieces werent rendered together as one image, a child can understand this, why can't you?
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    you've said that before, i think. Same forums, same people saying trumps getting impeached, russian collusion, rape and pedofiles. I know what that proof means to me, it's sad that you refuse to see that. when u can click and drag a box with an image of a stamp around a page, that is supposed to be a birth certificate (stamped decades ago), it's not possible. all pieces werent rendered together as one image, a child can understand this, why can't you?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 6:07 PM ET #64

    Here we go again porridge brain:

    Post #53: During the campaign Hillary expressed support for Planned Parenthood (major abortion supporter), and expressed the attitude that Margaret Sanger, extreme racist and founder of PP, was a great American leader and outstanding woman. If that does not connect Hillary with both Margaret Sanger and PP I can’t imagine how much more you need to see to know that Hillary is trying to court the love of several groups via twisting and distorting the truth. 1) the Margaret Sanger / PP compliments are intended to appeal to the unlimited abortion community, and 2) women, women, women, where Hillary thought the votes were to put her over the top. She couldn’t get five words into a sentence without “women” being the thrust of her response to anything. She tossed most of her eggs into those two baskets and blew the election.

    Post #54: An inflammatory sensationalist U.K. publication and his literary agent (book pimp) are your best reliable sources for a disproven claim? What a sap you are. ALL in depth investigations have proven otherwise. Next thing we know you will be relying on Pravda for the truth about Russia. Also, see post #56

    All those in favor of the birther argument, for whatever reason, should gather together with Detox in whatever thread they choose. In that way we could separate the sane and rational from the posters that have no worthwhile contribution to make

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Here we go again porridge brain:

    Post #53: During the campaign Hillary expressed support for Planned Parenthood (major abortion supporter), and expressed the attitude that Margaret Sanger, extreme racist and founder of PP, was a great American leader and outstanding woman. If that does not connect Hillary with both Margaret Sanger and PP I can’t imagine how much more you need to see to know that Hillary is trying to court the love of several groups via twisting and distorting the truth. 1) the Margaret Sanger / PP compliments are intended to appeal to the unlimited abortion community, and 2) women, women, women, where Hillary thought the votes were to put her over the top. She couldn’t get five words into a sentence without “women” being the thrust of her response to anything. She tossed most of her eggs into those two baskets and blew the election.

    Post #54: An inflammatory sensationalist U.K. publication and his literary agent (book pimp) are your best reliable sources for a disproven claim? What a sap you are. ALL in depth investigations have proven otherwise. Next thing we know you will be relying on Pravda for the truth about Russia. Also, see post #56

    All those in favor of the birther argument, for whatever reason, should gather together with Detox in whatever thread they choose. In that way we could separate the sane and rational from the posters that have no worthwhile contribution to make

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 6:26 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:


    Lets get your birther putdowns straight: If a child of an American citizen is born OUTSIDE the US,the parent must be a legal resident for 5 years and at least 16 years old.Obama's sluuut mother had him when she was 18 thus if he WAS NOT born on American Soil he would have to be a Naturalized Citizen and an Illegal President.

    Let's dispose of you in a hurry. Obama's mother, whom you insult without cause or evidence, was A) A U.S. citizen from the time of her birth and B) had never resided outside the U.S. for any appreciable length of time at the time of his birth. C) Since he was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth that secures
    his status and what his mother does after he is born does not change it. 

    The only thing more birther posts can do is secure supporters of the concept a place in Detox's "Idiocy Hall of Fame"

    He still won't touch the question of Jack Sprat's kid because he knows it blows the Kenyan birth question to smithereens. 

    I quoted from the Constitution of the United States of America. Who can mount an argument from the same source? It is not that long even taking the Amendments into consideration. Most have nothing to do with POTUS eligibility, making the task that much easier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:


    Lets get your birther putdowns straight: If a child of an American citizen is born OUTSIDE the US,the parent must be a legal resident for 5 years and at least 16 years old.Obama's sluuut mother had him when she was 18 thus if he WAS NOT born on American Soil he would have to be a Naturalized Citizen and an Illegal President.

    Let's dispose of you in a hurry. Obama's mother, whom you insult without cause or evidence, was A) A U.S. citizen from the time of her birth and B) had never resided outside the U.S. for any appreciable length of time at the time of his birth. C) Since he was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth that secures
    his status and what his mother does after he is born does not change it. 

    The only thing more birther posts can do is secure supporters of the concept a place in Detox's "Idiocy Hall of Fame"

    He still won't touch the question of Jack Sprat's kid because he knows it blows the Kenyan birth question to smithereens. 

    I quoted from the Constitution of the United States of America. Who can mount an argument from the same source? It is not that long even taking the Amendments into consideration. Most have nothing to do with POTUS eligibility, making the task that much easier.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 6:33 PM ET #66

    Why would Obama’s brother say he was born in Kenya? 

    He posted it on Twitter again today. 

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    Why would Obama’s brother say he was born in Kenya? 

    He posted it on Twitter again today. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why would Obama’s brother say he was born in Kenya? 

    He posted it on Twitter again today. 

    I don't know. Ask him. If he posted it tell him to supply evidence, other than his own statement. For all we know his brother may have an axe to grind, or be a pathological liar. There has been a ton of investigation done on the subject and none of it holds up. Stop grasping at straws. If there were credibility to it a good investigative news reporter or agency would have jumped all over it. That is how careers are made.
    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why would Obama’s brother say he was born in Kenya? 

    He posted it on Twitter again today. 

    I don't know. Ask him. If he posted it tell him to supply evidence, other than his own statement. For all we know his brother may have an axe to grind, or be a pathological liar. There has been a ton of investigation done on the subject and none of it holds up. Stop grasping at straws. If there were credibility to it a good investigative news reporter or agency would have jumped all over it. That is how careers are made.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2017 - 2:02 AM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:

    it's not about whether he was born there or not. It's about the FORGED DOCUMENT he used as his birth certificate. who cares where he was from? the document he used, wasnt rendered into a single image and it's proof he used a bs document. do you think a natural born citizen would do that? me either

    Fact checker snopes rated false the claim that Obama birth certificate is a forgery made with image editing software.  Hawaii health department certifies that copies of Obama birth certificate are authenetic.   Scanning an image, converting it to a PDF and then opening it up in Adobe illustrator naturally create layers.

     Layers cited by conspiracy theorists are evidence of the use of scanning software.  Not evidence of forgery!  According to Hawaii attorney general, Obama birth certificate meets all requirements from State department for proving US citizenship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:

    it's not about whether he was born there or not. It's about the FORGED DOCUMENT he used as his birth certificate. who cares where he was from? the document he used, wasnt rendered into a single image and it's proof he used a bs document. do you think a natural born citizen would do that? me either

    Fact checker snopes rated false the claim that Obama birth certificate is a forgery made with image editing software.  Hawaii health department certifies that copies of Obama birth certificate are authenetic.   Scanning an image, converting it to a PDF and then opening it up in Adobe illustrator naturally create layers.

     Layers cited by conspiracy theorists are evidence of the use of scanning software.  Not evidence of forgery!  According to Hawaii attorney general, Obama birth certificate meets all requirements from State department for proving US citizenship.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2017 - 11:40 AM ET #69

    Malik Obama has provided evidence. 

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    Malik Obama has provided evidence. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2017 - 11:46 AM ET #70

    How does pointing out that welfare and abortions have decimated the black community make me a bigot? 

    Can you please answer this question? 

    Thank you. 

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    How does pointing out that welfare and abortions have decimated the black community make me a bigot? 

    Can you please answer this question? 

    Thank you. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2017 - 2:37 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Malik Obama has provided evidence. 

    Disgraced half brother Malik has zero creditbility after posting fake birth certificate debunked in court.  Obama has a large number of relatives who are more honest.  No one else is promoting insane conspiracy theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Malik Obama has provided evidence. 

    Disgraced half brother Malik has zero creditbility after posting fake birth certificate debunked in court.  Obama has a large number of relatives who are more honest.  No one else is promoting insane conspiracy theories.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2017 - 3:37 PM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    How does pointing out that welfare and abortions have decimated the black community make me a bigot? 

    Can you please answer this question? 

    Thank you. 

    Because of the slant you put on it. Your slant was that far fewer black babies was a really good idea. As for welfare, the only feeling you expressed was that you, personally are saved the welfare tax bill. Your concern was not for black babies, it was for yourself.

    Why aren't you busy computing all the thousands you will save under the Swede's tax plan? Or do you have to wait for your share of the trickle down to kick in? 

    Please take down the Kennedy avatar. Every time I see it next to your name I want to puke. Tricky person Nxon or G.W.B. would be more appropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    How does pointing out that welfare and abortions have decimated the black community make me a bigot? 

    Can you please answer this question? 

    Thank you. 

    Because of the slant you put on it. Your slant was that far fewer black babies was a really good idea. As for welfare, the only feeling you expressed was that you, personally are saved the welfare tax bill. Your concern was not for black babies, it was for yourself.

    Why aren't you busy computing all the thousands you will save under the Swede's tax plan? Or do you have to wait for your share of the trickle down to kick in? 

    Please take down the Kennedy avatar. Every time I see it next to your name I want to puke. Tricky person Nxon or G.W.B. would be more appropriate.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2017 - 5:11 PM ET #73

    Census Bureau in 2015, about 35 million white people participated in one of the six major government assistance programs that year. That's about 11 million more than the 24 million Hispanics and Latinos who participated and considerably more than the 20 million Black people who received government aid.
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    Census Bureau in 2015, about 35 million white people participated in one of the six major government assistance programs that year. That's about 11 million more than the 24 million Hispanics and Latinos who participated and considerably more than the 20 million Black people who received government aid.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2017 - 6:03 PM ET #74

    Democrats can only do the ‘disproportionate math’ when it comes to incarceration and police shootings. 




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    Democrats can only do the ‘disproportionate math’ when it comes to incarceration and police shootings. 




     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2017 - 6:18 PM ET #75

    248.5 million white people - 35 million receive assistance 

    42 million black people - 20 million receive assistance 

    56 million Hispanics - 25 million receive assistance 

    14% of white people receive assistance 
    45% of Hispanics receive assistance 
    48% of black people receive assistance 

    So, darkhorse12, what point were you trying to make? 

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    248.5 million white people - 35 million receive assistance 

    42 million black people - 20 million receive assistance 

    56 million Hispanics - 25 million receive assistance 

    14% of white people receive assistance 
    45% of Hispanics receive assistance 
    48% of black people receive assistance 

    So, darkhorse12, what point were you trying to make? 

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