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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2015 - 9:44 AM ET #1

    The Koch brothers and their network of wealthy conservative donors recently announced that they intend to spend almost $900 million on the 2016 elections. This level of spending by a group operating independently of any candidate or political party would be unprecedented in American politics. In fact, it would exceed the combined spending by the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee during the 2012 election cycle. Understandably, this announcement reinforced concerns among Democrats and liberals that spending by the Koch brothers and other conservative groups could give Republican candidates a crucial advantage in key House and Senate contests and in the race for the White House.

    Since the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision opened the door to spending by Super PACs funded by unlimited contributions from corporations, unions, and wealthy individuals, there has been a dramatic surge in spending by outside groups on federal elections. In 2012, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, groups not affiliated with any candidate or party spent over $1 billion on the presidential and congressional elections, more than three times the amount that such groups spent in the previous presidential election year. In 2014, outside groups spent over $565 million, almost twice the amount that such groups spent in the previous midterm election year.

    Conservative groups spent more than $250 million in support of Republican Senate candidates in 2014, including almost $35 million in North Carolina, more than $33 million in Colorado, and more than $31 million in Iowa. Republican candidates won all three of those races and almost every other key Senate contest, scoring a net gain of nine seats in the upper chamber.

    https://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/why-outside-spending-is-overrated-lessons-from-the-2014-senate-elections/


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    The Koch brothers and their network of wealthy conservative donors recently announced that they intend to spend almost $900 million on the 2016 elections. This level of spending by a group operating independently of any candidate or political party would be unprecedented in American politics. In fact, it would exceed the combined spending by the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee during the 2012 election cycle. Understandably, this announcement reinforced concerns among Democrats and liberals that spending by the Koch brothers and other conservative groups could give Republican candidates a crucial advantage in key House and Senate contests and in the race for the White House.

    Since the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision opened the door to spending by Super PACs funded by unlimited contributions from corporations, unions, and wealthy individuals, there has been a dramatic surge in spending by outside groups on federal elections. In 2012, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, groups not affiliated with any candidate or party spent over $1 billion on the presidential and congressional elections, more than three times the amount that such groups spent in the previous presidential election year. In 2014, outside groups spent over $565 million, almost twice the amount that such groups spent in the previous midterm election year.

    Conservative groups spent more than $250 million in support of Republican Senate candidates in 2014, including almost $35 million in North Carolina, more than $33 million in Colorado, and more than $31 million in Iowa. Republican candidates won all three of those races and almost every other key Senate contest, scoring a net gain of nine seats in the upper chamber.

    https://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/why-outside-spending-is-overrated-lessons-from-the-2014-senate-elections/


     
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    The Senate Republicans should get the chance to hold a super majority. So far, they have shown the proper level of responsibility by allowing the Dems the chance to propose ammendments to legislation. Something Harry Reid was terribly afraid of doing, mysteriously.

    It's to bad that so much money has to be spent to counter ignorance. I mean you probably have to show a valid ID to get into the Democratic National Convention, yet dems fight any action requiring voter ID'S.

    It will end up being a monumental waste of private money because we all know you can't fix stupid.
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    The Senate Republicans should get the chance to hold a super majority. So far, they have shown the proper level of responsibility by allowing the Dems the chance to propose ammendments to legislation. Something Harry Reid was terribly afraid of doing, mysteriously.

    It's to bad that so much money has to be spent to counter ignorance. I mean you probably have to show a valid ID to get into the Democratic National Convention, yet dems fight any action requiring voter ID'S.

    It will end up being a monumental waste of private money because we all know you can't fix stupid.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2015 - 12:11 PM ET #3

    If they spend all $900 million on the Nevada Senate race and successfully oust Harry Reid, it would be money well spent.

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    If they spend all $900 million on the Nevada Senate race and successfully oust Harry Reid, it would be money well spent.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2015 - 2:06 PM ET #4

    I thought the 900 million was the amount of money Michelle and Barack have spent on vacations.
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2015 - 2:37 PM ET #5

    At Eric Holder Ferguson town hall meeting he had police officers checking IDs at the door to prevent outsiders from attending a civic function ..But, if you support the same requirement to cast a ballot...it's voter suppression.
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    At Eric Holder Ferguson town hall meeting he had police officers checking IDs at the door to prevent outsiders from attending a civic function ..But, if you support the same requirement to cast a ballot...it's voter suppression.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2015 - 11:57 PM ET #6

    Taking $25M from a foreign government.............................................


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    Taking $25M from a foreign government.............................................


     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 12:31 AM ET #7

    Money doesn't win every time ...

    In 2014 election college professor David Brat knocked off House Majority Leader Eric,in a primary race last year.

    Dave Brat had two paid staffers who ran his campaign on a flip phone. He won the election on a 200K shoestring budget. ... Brat's campaign spent $122,793 in the race.

    Cantors' campaign raised $5,447,290 and spent almost all of it  $5,026,626.

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    In 2014 election college professor David Brat knocked off House Majority Leader Eric,in a primary race last year.

    Dave Brat had two paid staffers who ran his campaign on a flip phone. He won the election on a 200K shoestring budget. ... Brat's campaign spent $122,793 in the race.

    Cantors' campaign raised $5,447,290 and spent almost all of it  $5,026,626.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 6:25 PM ET #8

    since it matters to you so much detox, why don't you rally some of your liberal friends to counter that amount? the freedom to raise money is not exclusive to conservatives. libs can do it too. so stop beatching and get busy
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    since it matters to you so much detox, why don't you rally some of your liberal friends to counter that amount? the freedom to raise money is not exclusive to conservatives. libs can do it too. so stop beatching and get busy
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2015 - 10:54 AM ET #9

    I'm amused by the morons that blindly follow their agenda.. I mean, look at the poor person in this thread. 
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2015 - 11:09 AM ET #10

    Stop complaining about Obama, rally some of your republican friends and select the president of your choice.. Some of the moronic arguments people spit blow my mind. 
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    Stop complaining about Obama, rally some of your republican friends and select the president of your choice.. Some of the moronic arguments people spit blow my mind. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2015 - 12:46 PM ET #11

    The Koch brothers are great Americans! According to John Kerry we live in a very safe world! Say what!
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2015 - 9:05 PM ET #12

    awaiting your scathing post on Hillary and the foundation which has all the same corporate donor problems on the issue you're raising with the Koch brothers with an added twist of foreign government involvement. 
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    awaiting your scathing post on Hillary and the foundation which has all the same corporate donor problems on the issue you're raising with the Koch brothers with an added twist of foreign government involvement. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighScore:

    awaiting your scathing post on Hillary and the foundation which has all the same corporate donor problems on the issue you're raising with the Koch brothers with an added twist of foreign government involvement. 

    You will be waiting a long time.
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    awaiting your scathing post on Hillary and the foundation which has all the same corporate donor problems on the issue you're raising with the Koch brothers with an added twist of foreign government involvement. 

    You will be waiting a long time.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2015 - 9:49 PM ET #14

    I'll wait with ya Score... With Detox, when it's a lefty-no foul.






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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2015 - 12:00 PM ET #15

    where o where is the enlightened one???  please please explain (since we're all so stooopid) 
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    where o where is the enlightened one???  please please explain (since we're all so stooopid) 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2015 - 1:21 PM ET #16

    that's a puny number--it's 2015 after all.  less than the lotteries bring in to the largest states.
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    that's a puny number--it's 2015 after all.  less than the lotteries bring in to the largest states.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2015 - 8:45 PM ET #17

    If by puny you mean the biggest in the history of the world, I agree with you.
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:47 AM ET #18

    you're incapable of having an honest conservation.   good luck with having anyone ever taking you seriously.

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    you're incapable of having an honest conservation.   good luck with having anyone ever taking you seriously.

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