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    bowlslit
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:16 PM ET #26

    Guns and liquor are not a good mix. Difficult to make any exceptions but the owner or select security officers. But that would make the place almost uninsureable. 

    Ironically, Miami probably does have several night clubs where a good percentage of people packing heat.

    This club did have a high percentage of people packing... just not guns.
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    Guns and liquor are not a good mix. Difficult to make any exceptions but the owner or select security officers. But that would make the place almost uninsureable. 

    Ironically, Miami probably does have several night clubs where a good percentage of people packing heat.

    This club did have a high percentage of people packing... just not guns.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:22 PM ET #27

    Most of you remember that Discover Card commercial in which the attractive young lady leaves her card behind and can "stop time" to go back and retrieve her card....

    So Clubdirt says he would rather NOT have any armed citizens in an active shooter situation such as the Orlando attack...

    So if Clubdirt had the option, he would freeze time at the moment the shooting starts... and eliminate or delete any armed citizens in the club because they might have had too much to drink

    LOL okay.... yea I believe that
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    Most of you remember that Discover Card commercial in which the attractive young lady leaves her card behind and can "stop time" to go back and retrieve her card....

    So Clubdirt says he would rather NOT have any armed citizens in an active shooter situation such as the Orlando attack...

    So if Clubdirt had the option, he would freeze time at the moment the shooting starts... and eliminate or delete any armed citizens in the club because they might have had too much to drink

    LOL okay.... yea I believe that
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:40 PM ET #28

    new revelations about Orlando

    Cops confronted the shooter in the streets before he entered the nightclub... they did not enter to engage him for 3 hours "in fear he had a device"

    shameful conduct by the Orlando police... 50 dead while they waited for 3 hours
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    new revelations about Orlando

    Cops confronted the shooter in the streets before he entered the nightclub... they did not enter to engage him for 3 hours "in fear he had a device"

    shameful conduct by the Orlando police... 50 dead while they waited for 3 hours
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:44 PM ET #29

    I am a big supporter of law enforcement... but this needs to be a turning point on how to proceed going forward - for all police forces

    You have an idiot wanting to shoot people - take him out NOW

    If he did have a bomb... the body count would have been lower if he detonated the device.  Boston had 3 bodies as I recall from two bombs

    truly idiotic protocol from the police
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    I am a big supporter of law enforcement... but this needs to be a turning point on how to proceed going forward - for all police forces

    You have an idiot wanting to shoot people - take him out NOW

    If he did have a bomb... the body count would have been lower if he detonated the device.  Boston had 3 bodies as I recall from two bombs

    truly idiotic protocol from the police
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:50 PM ET #30

    shooter was known to be Islamic extremist by the FBI

    so glad we  (FBI) knew this fact.

    50 mourning families will take solace to know he was on the radar... but nothing was done about it.
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    shooter was known to be Islamic extremist by the FBI

    so glad we  (FBI) knew this fact.

    50 mourning families will take solace to know he was on the radar... but nothing was done about it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:57 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    " a decade" was a moment of statement... You are correct, I should have stated EVER.  Truly the most stupid thing I have read on covers forum EVER

    I guarantee you would be under a table hoping there is some sane person armed to take him out.  End of discussion

    He repeatedly told you what he didn't want to see yet YOU guarantee that's not how HE would feel? Then you suggested his post was dumb? How ironic!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    " a decade" was a moment of statement... You are correct, I should have stated EVER.  Truly the most stupid thing I have read on covers forum EVER

    I guarantee you would be under a table hoping there is some sane person armed to take him out.  End of discussion

    He repeatedly told you what he didn't want to see yet YOU guarantee that's not how HE would feel? Then you suggested his post was dumb? How ironic!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 3:01 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    He repeatedly told you what he didn't want to see yet YOU guarantee that's not how HE would feel? Then you suggested his post was dumb? How ironic!!


    Yes I guarantee that is what he would be thinking and feeling, and I guarantee it would be the same for you.

    blood alcohol level of a CC citizen would not be a concern  I guarantee you that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    He repeatedly told you what he didn't want to see yet YOU guarantee that's not how HE would feel? Then you suggested his post was dumb? How ironic!!


    Yes I guarantee that is what he would be thinking and feeling, and I guarantee it would be the same for you.

    blood alcohol level of a CC citizen would not be a concern  I guarantee you that.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 3:33 PM ET #33

    Sports fan -- you are an example of why trump voters should only be given credit for .33 of a full vote
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    Sports fan -- you are an example of why trump voters should only be given credit for .33 of a full vote
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 3:39 PM ET #34

    Lol... Trump voters

    You can tell that this has some people going completely nuts over this.

    I wonder why?
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    Lol... Trump voters

    You can tell that this has some people going completely nuts over this.

    I wonder why?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 3:57 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    Yes I guarantee that is what he would be thinking and feeling, and I guarantee it would be the same for you.

    blood alcohol level of a CC citizen would not be a concern  I guarantee you that.

    I am a gun owner and I believe in 2nd Amendment but I guarantee you don't know that.

    I guarantee you are the type that ruins it for responsible gun owners like most of us.

    I guarantee I would have people like you arrested if you come into my business packed (yes, I have that little silly sign at the door). Btw, I did just that 3 weeks ago after I gave him multiple warnings.

    State law varies but I assume it's illegal to carry in a establishment that sells above 51% alcohol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    Yes I guarantee that is what he would be thinking and feeling, and I guarantee it would be the same for you.

    blood alcohol level of a CC citizen would not be a concern  I guarantee you that.

    I am a gun owner and I believe in 2nd Amendment but I guarantee you don't know that.

    I guarantee you are the type that ruins it for responsible gun owners like most of us.

    I guarantee I would have people like you arrested if you come into my business packed (yes, I have that little silly sign at the door). Btw, I did just that 3 weeks ago after I gave him multiple warnings.

    State law varies but I assume it's illegal to carry in a establishment that sells above 51% alcohol.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 4:03 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    I am a gun owner and I believe in 2nd Amendment but I guarantee you don't know that.

    I guarantee you are the type that ruins it for responsible gun owners like most of us.

    I guarantee I would have people like you arrested if you come into my business packed (yes, I have that little silly sign at the door). Btw, I did just that 3 weeks ago after I gave him multiple warnings.

    State law varies but I assume it's illegal to carry in a establishment that sells above 51% alcohol.


    you are wrong on every count  - what can I say?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    I am a gun owner and I believe in 2nd Amendment but I guarantee you don't know that.

    I guarantee you are the type that ruins it for responsible gun owners like most of us.

    I guarantee I would have people like you arrested if you come into my business packed (yes, I have that little silly sign at the door). Btw, I did just that 3 weeks ago after I gave him multiple warnings.

    State law varies but I assume it's illegal to carry in a establishment that sells above 51% alcohol.


    you are wrong on every count  - what can I say?


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    I am a gun owner and I believe in 2nd Amendment but I guarantee you don't know that.

    I guarantee you are the type that ruins it for responsible gun owners like most of us.

    I guarantee I would have people like you arrested if you come into my business packed (yes, I have that little silly sign at the door). Btw, I did just that 3 weeks ago after I gave him multiple warnings.

    State law varies but I assume it's illegal to carry in a establishment that sells above 51% alcohol.


    I don't know about that bunny...  SportsFan is a hot chick bangin', face-spoogin', gun-totin', Trump lovin', truck drivin', Alpha male and he ain't gonna back down from no one and their silly little sign! 

    You ever see those Yosemite Sam mud flaps that say "Back Off" and ole Sam has his six shooters ready to rock and roll?  That's SportsFan!   
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    I am a gun owner and I believe in 2nd Amendment but I guarantee you don't know that.

    I guarantee you are the type that ruins it for responsible gun owners like most of us.

    I guarantee I would have people like you arrested if you come into my business packed (yes, I have that little silly sign at the door). Btw, I did just that 3 weeks ago after I gave him multiple warnings.

    State law varies but I assume it's illegal to carry in a establishment that sells above 51% alcohol.


    I don't know about that bunny...  SportsFan is a hot chick bangin', face-spoogin', gun-totin', Trump lovin', truck drivin', Alpha male and he ain't gonna back down from no one and their silly little sign! 

    You ever see those Yosemite Sam mud flaps that say "Back Off" and ole Sam has his six shooters ready to rock and roll?  That's SportsFan!   
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 4:09 PM ET #38

    No true CC owner pays any attention to silly signs on any store front... that does nothing to trump the 2nd amendment not does it do you any good when a weapon is needed.

    No true CC owner would have revealed to you in any way that he/she was packing... it is called carry conceal for good reason.  Maybe you are mistaken with somebody that was open carrying?

    Same goes for the alcohol law for some states... no real CC person would pay attention to such silliness... protecting your life of far more important that any silly law that can be challenged in court.
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    No true CC owner pays any attention to silly signs on any store front... that does nothing to trump the 2nd amendment not does it do you any good when a weapon is needed.

    No true CC owner would have revealed to you in any way that he/she was packing... it is called carry conceal for good reason.  Maybe you are mistaken with somebody that was open carrying?

    Same goes for the alcohol law for some states... no real CC person would pay attention to such silliness... protecting your life of far more important that any silly law that can be challenged in court.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    I don't know about that bunny...  SportsFan is a hot chick bangin', face-spoogin', gun-totin', Trump lovin', truck drivin', Alpha male and he ain't gonna back down from no one and their silly little sign! 

    You ever see those Yosemite Sam mud flaps that say "Back Off" and ole Sam has his six shooters ready to rock and roll?  That's SportsFan!   

    Lol sportsfan appears to lack the self awareness of how he comes off as well as the fact that he has completely embarassed himself on this thread.  

    I guess that explains why he foolish keeps going... He just doesn't get it 

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    I don't know about that bunny...  SportsFan is a hot chick bangin', face-spoogin', gun-totin', Trump lovin', truck drivin', Alpha male and he ain't gonna back down from no one and their silly little sign! 

    You ever see those Yosemite Sam mud flaps that say "Back Off" and ole Sam has his six shooters ready to rock and roll?  That's SportsFan!   

    Lol sportsfan appears to lack the self awareness of how he comes off as well as the fact that he has completely embarassed himself on this thread.  

    I guess that explains why he foolish keeps going... He just doesn't get it 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 4:48 PM ET #40

    I have been going into businesses and almost any buildings with "no guns" signs for years... nobody know I am packing and nobody cares.  No issues at all.  What makes you think you would know?  or have me arrested??  lol

    silly man making silly statements
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    I have been going into businesses and almost any buildings with "no guns" signs for years... nobody know I am packing and nobody cares.  No issues at all.  What makes you think you would know?  or have me arrested??  lol

    silly man making silly statements
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 4:49 PM ET #41

    Hey BWS

    What is your relevance on this thread?  Ar you pro terrorist?  maybe anti happy?  or are you just here to antagonize... if that is case you should probably be boxed - I know that is a good one lol
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    Hey BWS

    What is your relevance on this thread?  Ar you pro terrorist?  maybe anti happy?  or are you just here to antagonize... if that is case you should probably be boxed - I know that is a good one lol
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 5:11 PM ET #42

    shooter was licensed to carry firearms because he was a security guard... highly trained shooter

    So all of you that claim gun laws would help - please explain how that would help here
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    shooter was licensed to carry firearms because he was a security guard... highly trained shooter

    So all of you that claim gun laws would help - please explain how that would help here
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    I don't know about that bunny...  SportsFan is a hot chick bangin', face-spoogin', gun-totin', Trump lovin', truck drivin', Alpha male and he ain't gonna back down from no one and their silly little sign! 

    You ever see those Yosemite Sam mud flaps that say "Back Off" and ole Sam has his six shooters ready to rock and roll?  That's SportsFan!   

    He's confused to say the least and he's embarrassing himself enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    I don't know about that bunny...  SportsFan is a hot chick bangin', face-spoogin', gun-totin', Trump lovin', truck drivin', Alpha male and he ain't gonna back down from no one and their silly little sign! 

    You ever see those Yosemite Sam mud flaps that say "Back Off" and ole Sam has his six shooters ready to rock and roll?  That's SportsFan!   

    He's confused to say the least and he's embarrassing himself enough.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 6:31 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    Obama makes some statement about gun control -550

    I'm still waiting on you to take my Hillary bet at +2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    Obama makes some statement about gun control -550

    I'm still waiting on you to take my Hillary bet at +2000.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 7:50 PM ET #45

    Lol stop...

    Numbers, logic, reality...  All things that sportfan has proven himself time and time again completely inept and confused by
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    Lol stop...

    Numbers, logic, reality...  All things that sportfan has proven himself time and time again completely inept and confused by
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2016 - 8:17 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    shooter was licensed to carry firearms because he was a security guard... highly trained shooter

    So all of you that claim gun laws would help - please explain how that would help here


    3 years ago ( 2013),  Republicans had blocked a bill by Obama to cut the loopholes for people like Omar Mateen or anyone who are under the FBI watch list to purchase guns.

    Two weeks ago, during a town hall meeting, President Obama also warned that something like Orlando shooting could happen.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/obama-to-gun-owners-im-not-looking-to-disarm-you/


    on June 3, Obama was asked by an audience member why both his administration and presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton “want to control and restrict and limit gun manufacturers [and] gun owners.”

    The president responded to the common line of questioning with a pointed attack against the National Rifle Association. The group’s vehement opposition to restrictions on even the heaviest weaponry available has allowed people on the no-fly list to buy guns.


    “I just came from a meeting today in the situation room, in which I’ve got people who we know have been on ISIL websites, living here in the United States, U.S. citizens,” Obama said at the town hall, using another name for the Islamic State group. “And we’re allowed to put them on the no-fly list when it comes to airlines, but because of the National Rifle Association, I cannot prohibit those people from buying a gun.”

    “This is somebody who is a known ISIL sympathizer, and if he wants to walk into a gun store or a gun show right now and buy as many weapons and ammunition as he can, nothing’s prohibiting him from doing that even though the FBI knows who he is,” the president said.

    The scenario Obama described as a possibility has now come true. Omar Mateen, 29, bought a semi-automatic rifle and a handgun less than a week before he killed around 50 people at a happy nightclub in Florida. Mateen had been investigated by the FBI twice — once in 2013 and again in 2014 — but was still legally allowed to obtain the weapons.


    Why should anyone be allowed to own assault weapons . Hand guns are just fine for self defense 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    shooter was licensed to carry firearms because he was a security guard... highly trained shooter

    So all of you that claim gun laws would help - please explain how that would help here


    3 years ago ( 2013),  Republicans had blocked a bill by Obama to cut the loopholes for people like Omar Mateen or anyone who are under the FBI watch list to purchase guns.

    Two weeks ago, during a town hall meeting, President Obama also warned that something like Orlando shooting could happen.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/obama-to-gun-owners-im-not-looking-to-disarm-you/


    on June 3, Obama was asked by an audience member why both his administration and presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton “want to control and restrict and limit gun manufacturers [and] gun owners.”

    The president responded to the common line of questioning with a pointed attack against the National Rifle Association. The group’s vehement opposition to restrictions on even the heaviest weaponry available has allowed people on the no-fly list to buy guns.


    “I just came from a meeting today in the situation room, in which I’ve got people who we know have been on ISIL websites, living here in the United States, U.S. citizens,” Obama said at the town hall, using another name for the Islamic State group. “And we’re allowed to put them on the no-fly list when it comes to airlines, but because of the National Rifle Association, I cannot prohibit those people from buying a gun.”

    “This is somebody who is a known ISIL sympathizer, and if he wants to walk into a gun store or a gun show right now and buy as many weapons and ammunition as he can, nothing’s prohibiting him from doing that even though the FBI knows who he is,” the president said.

    The scenario Obama described as a possibility has now come true. Omar Mateen, 29, bought a semi-automatic rifle and a handgun less than a week before he killed around 50 people at a happy nightclub in Florida. Mateen had been investigated by the FBI twice — once in 2013 and again in 2014 — but was still legally allowed to obtain the weapons.


    Why should anyone be allowed to own assault weapons . Hand guns are just fine for self defense 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2016 - 8:26 PM ET #47

    State of Alabama enacted a law in 2015 to prohibit possession of a firearm by individuals who have been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence offenses or other specified violent offenses (including stalking, child abuse, and domestic violence crimes),1 and by individuals subject to a valid protection order for domestic abuse.

    https://smartgunlaws.org/domestic-violence-and-firearms-in-alabama/

    According to Omar Mateen's ex-wife he was an abuser .. not sure if she ever filed any complaints.



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    State of Alabama enacted a law in 2015 to prohibit possession of a firearm by individuals who have been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence offenses or other specified violent offenses (including stalking, child abuse, and domestic violence crimes),1 and by individuals subject to a valid protection order for domestic abuse.

    https://smartgunlaws.org/domestic-violence-and-firearms-in-alabama/

    According to Omar Mateen's ex-wife he was an abuser .. not sure if she ever filed any complaints.



     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2016 - 8:58 PM ET #48

    Gee I bet those demorats lbgr citizens in that night club are thinking if I had a gun I would of shot the sob that killed my wife or lover. What stops a bad guy with a gun? A good guy who can control a gun meaning used two hands aim and qink at the bad guy.

    I do understand a continue abjector that say I will be raped tortured and be murdered in non violence protest against violence. But don't spin your Quaker Amish Hindu Buddhists ways on me I am an American I will die defending your right to religion. Butt I. Am not bringing a steak knife to a gun f8ght to do so pal.
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    Gee I bet those demorats lbgr citizens in that night club are thinking if I had a gun I would of shot the sob that killed my wife or lover. What stops a bad guy with a gun? A good guy who can control a gun meaning used two hands aim and qink at the bad guy.

    I do understand a continue abjector that say I will be raped tortured and be murdered in non violence protest against violence. But don't spin your Quaker Amish Hindu Buddhists ways on me I am an American I will die defending your right to religion. Butt I. Am not bringing a steak knife to a gun f8ght to do so pal.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2016 - 10:05 PM ET #49

    I'm sure a few more gun blasting away would halve limited the casualties. FFS.

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    I'm sure a few more gun blasting away would halve limited the casualties. FFS.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2016 - 10:06 PM ET #50

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