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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 11:56 AM ET #1

    Let's blame guns 
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    Let's blame guns 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 12:19 PM ET #2

    Well, if one guy could injure/wound/kill 102 people with his hands in confined space......
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    Well, if one guy could injure/wound/kill 102 people with his hands in confined space......
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 12:34 PM ET #3

    it would have been 2 or 3 if there were some carry conceal people in the situation... but that was not the case

    mass murders continue to happen in "safe zones"

    wise up
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    it would have been 2 or 3 if there were some carry conceal people in the situation... but that was not the case

    mass murders continue to happen in "safe zones"

    wise up
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 12:38 PM ET #4

    I carry in any place that I choose... regardless of any silly stickers on a door or window

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    I carry in any place that I choose... regardless of any silly stickers on a door or window

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 12:40 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    it would have been 2 or 3 if there were some carry conceal people in the situation... but that was not the case

    mass murders continue to happen in "safe zones"

    wise up

    How many people in a club like that at 2am are packing guns?  How many of them even have guns at home or have CCW permit? 


     Soft target... not much could have been done.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    it would have been 2 or 3 if there were some carry conceal people in the situation... but that was not the case

    mass murders continue to happen in "safe zones"

    wise up

    How many people in a club like that at 2am are packing guns?  How many of them even have guns at home or have CCW permit? 


     Soft target... not much could have been done.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 12:43 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    How many people in a club like that at 2am are packing guns?  How many of them even have guns at home or have CCW permit? 


     Soft target... not much could have been done.  

    Laws vary from state to state... follow the body count son.  You might learn something.  This kind of thing does not happen in red states... 

    In states like TX and KY and UT and such... you will not find this action... everyday people are packing, and the bad guys know it.

    It is concealed for good reason... you big city folks simply don't understand this... it is not my job to educate you.  wise up
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    How many people in a club like that at 2am are packing guns?  How many of them even have guns at home or have CCW permit? 


     Soft target... not much could have been done.  

    Laws vary from state to state... follow the body count son.  You might learn something.  This kind of thing does not happen in red states... 

    In states like TX and KY and UT and such... you will not find this action... everyday people are packing, and the bad guys know it.

    It is concealed for good reason... you big city folks simply don't understand this... it is not my job to educate you.  wise up
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 12:53 PM ET #7

    True story....

    I moved to KY in 1995 and on the ballot at the time was a reforendum to allow CC.  The chief of police for Lexington was very public about his disdain for voting NO

    The bill passed, and violent crimes went down drastically... that same police chief made a press conference to tell everybody he was wrong to aoppose the legal action, and he now fully endorses all lawful citizens to arm themselves.

    I personally met with that police chief to give him my personal congratulations to making his change of opinion known... it takes a big man to change opinion and make it known.


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    True story....

    I moved to KY in 1995 and on the ballot at the time was a reforendum to allow CC.  The chief of police for Lexington was very public about his disdain for voting NO

    The bill passed, and violent crimes went down drastically... that same police chief made a press conference to tell everybody he was wrong to aoppose the legal action, and he now fully endorses all lawful citizens to arm themselves.

    I personally met with that police chief to give him my personal congratulations to making his change of opinion known... it takes a big man to change opinion and make it known.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:00 PM ET #8

    So now the reports are that the police were standing around holding their person for about 3 hours as this azzhole Islam idiot continued to kill innocent people.

    Who might guess that indecisive PC idiots were standing in the way of instant action?

    time will tell
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    So now the reports are that the police were standing around holding their person for about 3 hours as this azzhole Islam idiot continued to kill innocent people.

    Who might guess that indecisive PC idiots were standing in the way of instant action?

    time will tell
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:05 PM ET #9

    I am hearing this was a happy bar... so I know that Obama will link this to a "hate crime" ignoring the obvious

    only 6 more months of this nonsense

    Trump 2016!!!!
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    I am hearing this was a happy bar... so I know that Obama will link this to a "hate crime" ignoring the obvious

    only 6 more months of this nonsense

    Trump 2016!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:06 PM ET #10

    stupid filters on covers... lol it is so ironic

    It was a G A Y bar that was shot up.  
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    stupid filters on covers... lol it is so ironic

    It was a G A Y bar that was shot up.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:08 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    Laws vary from state to state... follow the body count son.  You might learn something.  This kind of thing does not happen in red states... 

    In states like TX and KY and UT and such... you will not find this action... everyday people are packing, and the bad guys know it.

    It is concealed for good reason... you big city folks simply don't understand this... it is not my job to educate you.  wise up

    Only 5 states did NOT experience a mass shooting in 2015.  Hawaii, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Wyoming and West Virginia.  


    And I'm not from a big city, or any city for that fact.   Stop lumping people together
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    Laws vary from state to state... follow the body count son.  You might learn something.  This kind of thing does not happen in red states... 

    In states like TX and KY and UT and such... you will not find this action... everyday people are packing, and the bad guys know it.

    It is concealed for good reason... you big city folks simply don't understand this... it is not my job to educate you.  wise up

    Only 5 states did NOT experience a mass shooting in 2015.  Hawaii, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Wyoming and West Virginia.  


    And I'm not from a big city, or any city for that fact.   Stop lumping people together
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:32 PM ET #12

    I hear that Obama will make s statement about the 50 dead in Orlando

    I'm taking bets on how he characterizes this to be anything BUT radical Islam....

    Obama warns about blaming Islam -350
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    I hear that Obama will make s statement about the 50 dead in Orlando

    I'm taking bets on how he characterizes this to be anything BUT radical Islam....

    Obama warns about blaming Islam -350
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:33 PM ET #13

    Obama makes some statement about gun control -550
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    Obama makes some statement about gun control -550
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:33 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    it would have been 2 or 3 if there were some carry conceal people in the situation... but that was not the case

    mass murders continue to happen in "safe zones"

    wise up


    definitely, when some nutcase starts shooting from somewhere in a dark club with loud music and people running in every direction, a bunch of other people with guns who are drunk and/or all fucked up on drugs firing off shots into the crowd would have limited the casualties to 2 or 3.  i watch movies, i know how this works. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    it would have been 2 or 3 if there were some carry conceal people in the situation... but that was not the case

    mass murders continue to happen in "safe zones"

    wise up


    definitely, when some nutcase starts shooting from somewhere in a dark club with loud music and people running in every direction, a bunch of other people with guns who are drunk and/or all fucked up on drugs firing off shots into the crowd would have limited the casualties to 2 or 3.  i watch movies, i know how this works. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:37 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    definitely, when some nutcase starts shooting from somewhere in a dark club with loud music and people running in every direction, a bunch of other people with guns who are drunk and/or all fucked up on drugs firing off shots into the crowd would have limited the casualties to 2 or 3.  i watch movies, i know how this works. 

    your sarcasm is understood....

    I guarantee you this... if you are ever unfortunate to be in such a situation, I know you will wish that some citizen is armed... drinks or no drinks 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    definitely, when some nutcase starts shooting from somewhere in a dark club with loud music and people running in every direction, a bunch of other people with guns who are drunk and/or all fucked up on drugs firing off shots into the crowd would have limited the casualties to 2 or 3.  i watch movies, i know how this works. 

    your sarcasm is understood....

    I guarantee you this... if you are ever unfortunate to be in such a situation, I know you will wish that some citizen is armed... drinks or no drinks 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:40 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    your sarcasm is understood....

    I guarantee you this... if you are ever unfortunate to be in such a situation, I know you will wish that some citizen is armed... drinks or no drinks 


    i can guarantee you that if i'm ever in a club with a bunch of drunk and drugged up people, i don't want any of them having guns.

    if i'm in a club where some nut starts shooting, i definitely don't want any other rambo wannabe hyped up on alcohol or drugs shooting joining in. 

    even if a guy is sober, i can't imagine the hysteria and clusterfuck that was going on in the dark, loud club.  i don't trust any of your average clubgoers to handle that situation with a gun and make it better.

    maybe you do, but i sure as hell don't. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    your sarcasm is understood....

    I guarantee you this... if you are ever unfortunate to be in such a situation, I know you will wish that some citizen is armed... drinks or no drinks 


    i can guarantee you that if i'm ever in a club with a bunch of drunk and drugged up people, i don't want any of them having guns.

    if i'm in a club where some nut starts shooting, i definitely don't want any other rambo wannabe hyped up on alcohol or drugs shooting joining in. 

    even if a guy is sober, i can't imagine the hysteria and clusterfuck that was going on in the dark, loud club.  i don't trust any of your average clubgoers to handle that situation with a gun and make it better.

    maybe you do, but i sure as hell don't. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:48 PM ET #17

    dont put yourself in a situation where a person with a gun can be standing near you and u have no idea
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    dont put yourself in a situation where a person with a gun can be standing near you and u have no idea
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 1:58 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    i can guarantee you that if i'm ever in a club with a bunch of drunk and drugged up people, i don't want any of them having guns.

    if i'm in a club where some nut starts shooting, i definitely don't want any other rambo wannabe hyped up on alcohol or drugs shooting joining in. 

    even if a guy is sober, i can't imagine the hysteria and clusterfuck that was going on in the dark, loud club.  i don't trust any of your average clubgoers to handle that situation with a gun and make it better.

    maybe you do, but i sure as hell don't. 

    quite possibly the dumbest post I have read on covers over a decade.

    You are dead wrong - you will be under a table hoping to avoid the fire while hoping somebody takes him out... you will not care about the BOL of the armed citizen that takes out that azzhole
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    i can guarantee you that if i'm ever in a club with a bunch of drunk and drugged up people, i don't want any of them having guns.

    if i'm in a club where some nut starts shooting, i definitely don't want any other rambo wannabe hyped up on alcohol or drugs shooting joining in. 

    even if a guy is sober, i can't imagine the hysteria and clusterfuck that was going on in the dark, loud club.  i don't trust any of your average clubgoers to handle that situation with a gun and make it better.

    maybe you do, but i sure as hell don't. 

    quite possibly the dumbest post I have read on covers over a decade.

    You are dead wrong - you will be under a table hoping to avoid the fire while hoping somebody takes him out... you will not care about the BOL of the armed citizen that takes out that azzhole
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:04 PM ET #19

    just out of curiosity, do you remember the post 11 years ago that you thought was dumber than me not wanting to be surrounded by a bunch of drunk and wasted 20 somethings in a dark, loud club? 

    i'd like to see it.

    otherwise, i can't tell you exactly what i'd be doing since i've never been in that situation, but i imagine i'd be trying to get the f*ck out of there and not get shot which would probably be easier if i was trying to avoid one person with a gun as opposed to a bunch of drunk/wasted people shooting guns in a dark, loud club with people running all over the place and no one being real sure who is who. 

    if that's the dumbest thing you've seen on covers in 10 or more years, so be it, although i have a feeling you are trying to make your position sound better by saying that. 
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    just out of curiosity, do you remember the post 11 years ago that you thought was dumber than me not wanting to be surrounded by a bunch of drunk and wasted 20 somethings in a dark, loud club? 

    i'd like to see it.

    otherwise, i can't tell you exactly what i'd be doing since i've never been in that situation, but i imagine i'd be trying to get the f*ck out of there and not get shot which would probably be easier if i was trying to avoid one person with a gun as opposed to a bunch of drunk/wasted people shooting guns in a dark, loud club with people running all over the place and no one being real sure who is who. 

    if that's the dumbest thing you've seen on covers in 10 or more years, so be it, although i have a feeling you are trying to make your position sound better by saying that. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:06 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    I hear that Obama will make s statement about the 50 dead in Orlando

    I'm taking bets on how he characterizes this to be anything BUT radical Islam....

    Obama warns about blaming Islam -350

    Obama makes no linkage to Islam
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    I hear that Obama will make s statement about the 50 dead in Orlando

    I'm taking bets on how he characterizes this to be anything BUT radical Islam....

    Obama warns about blaming Islam -350

    Obama makes no linkage to Islam
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:07 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    Obama makes some statement about gun control -550

    Obama blames access to guns
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    Obama makes some statement about gun control -550

    Obama blames access to guns
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    just out of curiosity, do you remember the post 11 years ago that you thought was dumber than me not wanting to be surrounded by a bunch of drunk and wasted 20 somethings in a dark, loud club? 

    i'd like to see it.

    otherwise, i can't tell you exactly what i'd be doing since i've never been in that situation, but i imagine i'd be trying to get the f*ck out of there and not get shot which would probably be easier if i was trying to avoid one person with a gun as opposed to a bunch of drunk/wasted people shooting guns in a dark, loud club with people running all over the place and no one being real sure who is who. 

    if that's the dumbest thing you've seen on covers in 10 or more years, so be it, although i have a feeling you are trying to make your position sound better by saying that. 

    " a decade" was a moment of statement... You are correct, I should have stated EVER.  Truly the most stupid thing I have read on covers forum EVER

    I guarantee you would be under a table hoping there is some sane person armed to take him out.  End of discussion
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    just out of curiosity, do you remember the post 11 years ago that you thought was dumber than me not wanting to be surrounded by a bunch of drunk and wasted 20 somethings in a dark, loud club? 

    i'd like to see it.

    otherwise, i can't tell you exactly what i'd be doing since i've never been in that situation, but i imagine i'd be trying to get the f*ck out of there and not get shot which would probably be easier if i was trying to avoid one person with a gun as opposed to a bunch of drunk/wasted people shooting guns in a dark, loud club with people running all over the place and no one being real sure who is who. 

    if that's the dumbest thing you've seen on covers in 10 or more years, so be it, although i have a feeling you are trying to make your position sound better by saying that. 

    " a decade" was a moment of statement... You are correct, I should have stated EVER.  Truly the most stupid thing I have read on covers forum EVER

    I guarantee you would be under a table hoping there is some sane person armed to take him out.  End of discussion
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:11 PM ET #23

    BOL would not be a consideration in your mind at all... chaos tends to overlook such random thoughts.

    You hate guns and gun owners?  duly noted... in the very worst of your nightmare situations you will love that guy and that gun.

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    BOL would not be a consideration in your mind at all... chaos tends to overlook such random thoughts.

    You hate guns and gun owners?  duly noted... in the very worst of your nightmare situations you will love that guy and that gun.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    " a decade" was a moment of statement... You are correct, I should have stated EVER.  Truly the most stupid thing I have read on covers forum EVER

    I guarantee you would be under a table hoping there is some sane person armed to take him out.  End of discussion


    i know you want that to  be the end of the discussion as ridiculous as you've made it, but i kind of want to see how far you'll take this. 

    so, why would i sit under a table if i can try and get the darn out of there?  particularly if, in the situation you'd prefer, i'm not just trying to hope that table shields me from the attackers bullets, but countless other bullets from sharpshooting 22 year old clubgoers who are high on ecstasy and who knows what else?  are these bulletproof tables?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    " a decade" was a moment of statement... You are correct, I should have stated EVER.  Truly the most stupid thing I have read on covers forum EVER

    I guarantee you would be under a table hoping there is some sane person armed to take him out.  End of discussion


    i know you want that to  be the end of the discussion as ridiculous as you've made it, but i kind of want to see how far you'll take this. 

    so, why would i sit under a table if i can try and get the darn out of there?  particularly if, in the situation you'd prefer, i'm not just trying to hope that table shields me from the attackers bullets, but countless other bullets from sharpshooting 22 year old clubgoers who are high on ecstasy and who knows what else?  are these bulletproof tables?
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 2:15 PM ET #25

    best of luck clubdirt - I think you need it
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    best of luck clubdirt - I think you need it
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