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    🤔 Age-old political question: "Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?" - This day/month in history...

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    fubah2
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2024 - 9:42 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of  2020  under the failed trump regime... 

     

    • World Trade organization predicts a drop in global trade greater than the 2008 financial crisis [under the previous republican president], between 13% and 32% for 2020  

    • New York ramps up mass burials on Hart Island amid outbreak

    • New York state now has more coronavirus cases than any single country.

    • The state's confirmed caseload of Covid-19 is nearly 162,000, of whom 7,844 have died.

     

    On April 10, 2020...

    Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! an_speechlessan_getaway

    About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless
    benefits, the Labor Department reported. The
    figure pushed the number of new claims in the
    four weeks to more than 17 million.
        The unprecedented surge in people who have lost
    work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime
    failed completely to contain while at the same time
    downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the
    worst unemployment in decades!

                                                    an_nailbiter

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of  2020  under the failed trump regime... 

     

    • World Trade organization predicts a drop in global trade greater than the 2008 financial crisis [under the previous republican president], between 13% and 32% for 2020  

    • New York ramps up mass burials on Hart Island amid outbreak

    • New York state now has more coronavirus cases than any single country.

    • The state's confirmed caseload of Covid-19 is nearly 162,000, of whom 7,844 have died.

     

    On April 10, 2020...

    Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! an_speechlessan_getaway

    About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless
    benefits, the Labor Department reported. The
    figure pushed the number of new claims in the
    four weeks to more than 17 million.
        The unprecedented surge in people who have lost
    work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime
    failed completely to contain while at the same time
    downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the
    worst unemployment in decades!

                                                    an_nailbiter

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 3:14 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    This week in the total calamity of  2020  under the failed trump regime...    

    On April 10, 2020... Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless benefits, the Labor Department reported. The figure pushed the number of new claims in the four weeks to more than 17 million.     The unprecedented surge in people who have lost work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime failed completely to contain while at the same time downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the worst unemployment in decades!

     

    @fubah2

     I have a very distinct recollection of that time in our history when Nero was fiddling while Rome burned.

    Many other countries reacted with very serious conviction and did so IMMEDIATELY.  No playing with "pud" watching their citizens die.  But under the arrogant and incompetent Trump regime the US ranked among the top seven worst nations for hospitalizations and death rates.  Undeniable mismanagement that devastated our nation, and serious lingering effects still being felt to this day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    This week in the total calamity of  2020  under the failed trump regime...    

    On April 10, 2020... Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless benefits, the Labor Department reported. The figure pushed the number of new claims in the four weeks to more than 17 million.     The unprecedented surge in people who have lost work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime failed completely to contain while at the same time downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the worst unemployment in decades!

     

    @fubah2

     I have a very distinct recollection of that time in our history when Nero was fiddling while Rome burned.

    Many other countries reacted with very serious conviction and did so IMMEDIATELY.  No playing with "pud" watching their citizens die.  But under the arrogant and incompetent Trump regime the US ranked among the top seven worst nations for hospitalizations and death rates.  Undeniable mismanagement that devastated our nation, and serious lingering effects still being felt to this day!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 3:32 AM ET #53

    How about: Are we better off now almost going to another proxy war in the middle east than we were 4 years ago?  That is reality right now, this can not be blamed on DJT but somehow the mob/media will spin it. 

     

    Ask yourself this:  In 6 months will we have an election with a war on our hands?  % favors yes unless you live under a rock.... an Arab Michigan rally chants go viral of Death to America.  Dearborn, MI.  The governor and the town's mayor won't even publicly tone down the hatred chants.  

    The powder keg is about to blow an_light 

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    How about: Are we better off now almost going to another proxy war in the middle east than we were 4 years ago?  That is reality right now, this can not be blamed on DJT but somehow the mob/media will spin it. 

     

    Ask yourself this:  In 6 months will we have an election with a war on our hands?  % favors yes unless you live under a rock.... an Arab Michigan rally chants go viral of Death to America.  Dearborn, MI.  The governor and the town's mayor won't even publicly tone down the hatred chants.  

    The powder keg is about to blow an_light 

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 3:38 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Age-old political question:   Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?           

    This day/month in history...  

     

    US has approximately 13,000+ boots on the ground  in an active combat zone in Afghanistan -- a war the republicans had dragged us into 20 years earlier....

    so  glad president biden got us out of that just 7 months into his first term !  im betting our service members and their families r even more glad !!!

    joe biden !! an_2drinks

     

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Age-old political question:   Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?           

    This day/month in history...  

     

    US has approximately 13,000+ boots on the ground  in an active combat zone in Afghanistan -- a war the republicans had dragged us into 20 years earlier....

    so  glad president biden got us out of that just 7 months into his first term !  im betting our service members and their families r even more glad !!!

    joe biden !! an_2drinks

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 5:12 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

      how many USA BOOTS ON THE GROUND wars has biden started in the past 3+ years ?   The answer is  ZERO obviously.    Biden hasn't *STARTED* any....much less with actual combat troops on the ground in daily combat, like the republicans did 20 years ago.... At the moment he is participating by proxy only in a war against international terrorism *STARTED* by Putin......

     

    Big difference between directly fighting a war and indirectly supplying aid.  US is just one of many countries supplying Ukraine.  Ditto for the middle east.  Russia and Hamas started the wars while US is trying to prevent world war III.  House intelligence committee reveals that republican lawmakers have been infected by pro Russian and anti Ukraine propaganda from Putin.  Myth is that Trump has no wars during his term as president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

      how many USA BOOTS ON THE GROUND wars has biden started in the past 3+ years ?   The answer is  ZERO obviously.    Biden hasn't *STARTED* any....much less with actual combat troops on the ground in daily combat, like the republicans did 20 years ago.... At the moment he is participating by proxy only in a war against international terrorism *STARTED* by Putin......

     

    Big difference between directly fighting a war and indirectly supplying aid.  US is just one of many countries supplying Ukraine.  Ditto for the middle east.  Russia and Hamas started the wars while US is trying to prevent world war III.  House intelligence committee reveals that republican lawmakers have been infected by pro Russian and anti Ukraine propaganda from Putin.  Myth is that Trump has no wars during his term as president.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 6:42 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    How about: Are we better off now almost going to another proxy war in the middle east than we were 4 years ago?  That is reality right now, this can not be blamed on DJT but somehow the mob/media will spin it.    Ask yourself this:  In 6 months will we have an election with a war on our hands?  % favors yes unless you live under a rock.... an Arab Michigan rally chants go viral of Death to America.  Dearborn, MI.  The governor and the town's mayor won't even publicly tone down the hatred chants.   The powder keg is about to blow
    This admin. has been a disaster........another four years of it may be too much to overcome..........an end to our democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    How about: Are we better off now almost going to another proxy war in the middle east than we were 4 years ago?  That is reality right now, this can not be blamed on DJT but somehow the mob/media will spin it.    Ask yourself this:  In 6 months will we have an election with a war on our hands?  % favors yes unless you live under a rock.... an Arab Michigan rally chants go viral of Death to America.  Dearborn, MI.  The governor and the town's mayor won't even publicly tone down the hatred chants.   The powder keg is about to blow
    This admin. has been a disaster........another four years of it may be too much to overcome..........an end to our democracy.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 11:11 AM ET #57

    @thirdperson

     House intelligence committee reveals that republican lawmakers have been infected by pro Russian and anti Ukraine propaganda from Putin. 

     

    "infected" an_roll_laugh 

    The clown show continues on.... GONG !!  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @thirdperson

     House intelligence committee reveals that republican lawmakers have been infected by pro Russian and anti Ukraine propaganda from Putin. 

     

    "infected" an_roll_laugh 

    The clown show continues on.... GONG !!  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    How about: Are we better off now almost going to another proxy war in the middle east than we were 4 years ago?  That is reality right now, this can not be blamed on DJT but somehow the mob/media will spin it.    Ask yourself this:  In 6 months will we have an election with a war on our hands?  % favors yes unless you live under a rock.... an Arab Michigan rally chants go viral of Death to America.  Dearborn, MI.  The governor and the town's mayor won't even publicly tone down the hatred chants.   The powder keg is about to blow

    The town's mayor and many leading Arab-American leaders condemned the death chants. Our governor, last I heard, remained silent as did most Michigan dems in govt.

    For the most part I have respect for our Arab-Americans in Michigan, most appear to be good people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    How about: Are we better off now almost going to another proxy war in the middle east than we were 4 years ago?  That is reality right now, this can not be blamed on DJT but somehow the mob/media will spin it.    Ask yourself this:  In 6 months will we have an election with a war on our hands?  % favors yes unless you live under a rock.... an Arab Michigan rally chants go viral of Death to America.  Dearborn, MI.  The governor and the town's mayor won't even publicly tone down the hatred chants.   The powder keg is about to blow

    The town's mayor and many leading Arab-American leaders condemned the death chants. Our governor, last I heard, remained silent as did most Michigan dems in govt.

    For the most part I have respect for our Arab-Americans in Michigan, most appear to be good people.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 11:56 AM ET #59

    @UNIMAN

     For the most part I have respect for our Arab-Americans in Michigan, most appear to be good people.

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @UNIMAN

     For the most part I have respect for our Arab-Americans in Michigan, most appear to be good people.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 12:00 PM ET #60

    It's not a myth that no major wars were started during Trump admin.

    And no myth Trump refused to aid UNRWA and Biden did even though it was reported UNRWA was aiding Hamas.

    No myth Trump labeled Houthis a terrorist org and denied aid and Biden reversed it. 

    No myth Biden reversed Trump decision to halt Nordstream II that benefited Russia. 

    Oh look, Russia, Houthis, and Hamas got aggressive. 

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    It's not a myth that no major wars were started during Trump admin.

    And no myth Trump refused to aid UNRWA and Biden did even though it was reported UNRWA was aiding Hamas.

    No myth Trump labeled Houthis a terrorist org and denied aid and Biden reversed it. 

    No myth Biden reversed Trump decision to halt Nordstream II that benefited Russia. 

    Oh look, Russia, Houthis, and Hamas got aggressive. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 12:18 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @UNIMAN  For the most part I have respect for our Arab-Americans in Michigan, most appear to be good people.

     

    I don't know why my comments don't show up at random times.... but again.... 

     

    UNI.... who will these family value centered, respectful and community orientated peoples be voting for come November.... 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @UNIMAN  For the most part I have respect for our Arab-Americans in Michigan, most appear to be good people.

     

    I don't know why my comments don't show up at random times.... but again.... 

     

    UNI.... who will these family value centered, respectful and community orientated peoples be voting for come November.... 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 12:20 PM ET #62

    Wow, this thread did exactly what I thought it was meant to do....Antagonize both sides...

     

    The OP knew this would tailspin and that's why he posted it so that he and everyone could bash one another....who could of seen this comingsleep2

     

    And again presidential historian rankings are brought upan_roll_laugh

     

    That has got to be the most hilarious thing that could ever have been brought up and it continues daily as if it something to rally behind...so komikalan_roll_laugh

     

    Back to bashing one another...yo mama is so....that she....an_popcorn

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    Wow, this thread did exactly what I thought it was meant to do....Antagonize both sides...

     

    The OP knew this would tailspin and that's why he posted it so that he and everyone could bash one another....who could of seen this comingsleep2

     

    And again presidential historian rankings are brought upan_roll_laugh

     

    That has got to be the most hilarious thing that could ever have been brought up and it continues daily as if it something to rally behind...so komikalan_roll_laugh

     

    Back to bashing one another...yo mama is so....that she....an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 12:25 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of  2020  under the failed trump regime...   

    • World Trade organization predicts a drop in global trade greater than the 2008 financial crisis [under the previous republican president], between 13% and 32% for 2020   • New York ramps up mass burials on Hart Island amid outbreak • New York state now has more coronavirus cases than any single country. • The state's confirmed caseload of Covid-19 is nearly 162,000, of whom 7,844 have died.   On April 10, 2020...

    Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless benefits, the Labor Department reported. The figure pushed the number of new claims in the four weeks to more than 17 million.     The unprecedented surge in people who have lost work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime failed completely to contain while at the same time downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the worst unemployment in decades!

      

    economic experts say it will be years more before we fully recover from the devastation that chump and his allies allowed to occur

    new_poop

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of  2020  under the failed trump regime...   

    • World Trade organization predicts a drop in global trade greater than the 2008 financial crisis [under the previous republican president], between 13% and 32% for 2020   • New York ramps up mass burials on Hart Island amid outbreak • New York state now has more coronavirus cases than any single country. • The state's confirmed caseload of Covid-19 is nearly 162,000, of whom 7,844 have died.   On April 10, 2020...

    Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless benefits, the Labor Department reported. The figure pushed the number of new claims in the four weeks to more than 17 million.     The unprecedented surge in people who have lost work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime failed completely to contain while at the same time downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the worst unemployment in decades!

      

    economic experts say it will be years more before we fully recover from the devastation that chump and his allies allowed to occur

    new_poop

     

     
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    devastating chumpsurprised

     

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    devastating chumpsurprised

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of  2020  under the failed trump regime...    • World Trade organization predicts a drop in global trade greater than the 2008 financial crisis [under the previous republican president], between 13% and 32% for 2020   • New York ramps up mass burials on Hart Island amid outbreak • New York state now has more coronavirus cases than any single country. • The state's confirmed caseload of Covid-19 is nearly 162,000, of whom 7,844 have died.   On April 10, 2020... Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless benefits, the Labor Department reported. The figure pushed the number of new claims in the four weeks to more than 17 million.     The unprecedented surge in people who have lost work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime failed completely to contain while at the same time downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the worst unemployment in decades!  

    economic experts say it will be years more before we fully recover from the devastation that chump and his allies allowed to occur

    FACT! Thirdperson addressed this very issue earlier but it's fairly well known by by those who are not pro-fascism.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of  2020  under the failed trump regime...    • World Trade organization predicts a drop in global trade greater than the 2008 financial crisis [under the previous republican president], between 13% and 32% for 2020   • New York ramps up mass burials on Hart Island amid outbreak • New York state now has more coronavirus cases than any single country. • The state's confirmed caseload of Covid-19 is nearly 162,000, of whom 7,844 have died.   On April 10, 2020... Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless benefits, the Labor Department reported. The figure pushed the number of new claims in the four weeks to more than 17 million.     The unprecedented surge in people who have lost work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime failed completely to contain while at the same time downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the worst unemployment in decades!  

    economic experts say it will be years more before we fully recover from the devastation that chump and his allies allowed to occur

    FACT! Thirdperson addressed this very issue earlier but it's fairly well known by by those who are not pro-fascism.

     

     

     
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    The old it's Trump fault Biden has failed. Then add a derogatory "facist".

    Doesn't your playbook ever get stale?

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    The old it's Trump fault Biden has failed. Then add a derogatory "facist".

    Doesn't your playbook ever get stale?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 2:34 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Age-old political question:

    Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?          

                         - This day/month in history...  

     

    FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!  

    April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue....

    April 11, 2020 -

    •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400 an_light

    What is it at today in 2024?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Age-old political question:

    Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?          

                         - This day/month in history...  

     

    FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!  

    April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue....

    April 11, 2020 -

    •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400 an_light

    What is it at today in 2024?

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 3:24 PM ET #68

    There's a playbookan_eek2

     

    Or a scriptan_getaway

     

    It feels like a telemarketing call sometimesan_nailbiter

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    There's a playbookan_eek2

     

    Or a scriptan_getaway

     

    It feels like a telemarketing call sometimesan_nailbiter

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2024 - 5:01 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Age-old political question: Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?                                - This day/month in history...     FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!   April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue....

    April 11, 2020 -

    •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400 an_light

    What is it at today in 2024?

     

    @fubah2

     just a bit above 38,000  an_2drinks

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Age-old political question: Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?                                - This day/month in history...     FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!   April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue....

    April 11, 2020 -

    •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400 an_light

    What is it at today in 2024?

     

    @fubah2

     just a bit above 38,000  an_2drinks

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2024 - 3:14 AM ET #70

    April 11, 2020 

     

    NYS was pretty much locked down at that point.  Around 75,000 confirmed cases.  Cuomo in his heyday

    I only responded here on the DOW because it dropped 3,000 in one day in mid march, I remember there were trading halts from everyone panicking. 

    Thats a bad time to compare the market, it was the start of every business shutdown unless it was "Essential"

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    April 11, 2020 

     

    NYS was pretty much locked down at that point.  Around 75,000 confirmed cases.  Cuomo in his heyday

    I only responded here on the DOW because it dropped 3,000 in one day in mid march, I remember there were trading halts from everyone panicking. 

    Thats a bad time to compare the market, it was the start of every business shutdown unless it was "Essential"

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Age-old political question: Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?   - This day/month in history...    

    FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!  

    April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue....

    April 11, 2020 - •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400  What is it at today in 2024?   @fubah2  just a bit above 38,000

    Quite a difference!  So ya I would say we are better off today than 4 years ago!an_boggienight

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Age-old political question: Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?   - This day/month in history...    

    FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!  

    April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue....

    April 11, 2020 - •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400  What is it at today in 2024?   @fubah2  just a bit above 38,000

    Quite a difference!  So ya I would say we are better off today than 4 years ago!an_boggienight

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Age-old political question: Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?   - This day/month in history...     FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!   April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue.... April 11, 2020 - •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400  What is it at today in 2024?   @fubah2  just a bit above 38,000 Quite a difference!  So ya I would say we are better off today than 4 years ago!

    Had Trump already achieved 14% unemployment by this point four years ago?   

    Most recent stats say we are 3.8% unemployment today, which continues a record of 26 consecutive months below 4%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Age-old political question: Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?   - This day/month in history...     FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!   April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue.... April 11, 2020 - •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400  What is it at today in 2024?   @fubah2  just a bit above 38,000 Quite a difference!  So ya I would say we are better off today than 4 years ago!

    Had Trump already achieved 14% unemployment by this point four years ago?   

    Most recent stats say we are 3.8% unemployment today, which continues a record of 26 consecutive months below 4%

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Age-old political question: Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?   - This day/month in history...     FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!   April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue.... April 11, 2020 - •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400  What is it at today in 2024?   @fubah2  just a bit above 38,000 Quite a difference!  So ya I would say we are better off today than 4 years ago! Had Trump already achieved 14% unemployment by this point four years ago?    Most recent stats say we are 3.8% unemployment today, which continues a record of 26 consecutive months below 4%
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Age-old political question: Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?   - This day/month in history...     FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!   April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue.... April 11, 2020 - •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400  What is it at today in 2024?   @fubah2  just a bit above 38,000 Quite a difference!  So ya I would say we are better off today than 4 years ago! Had Trump already achieved 14% unemployment by this point four years ago?    Most recent stats say we are 3.8% unemployment today, which continues a record of 26 consecutive months below 4%
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    update on meshitagain, it took a week for Gov. Whitmer to condemn the rhetoric.  It is the same playbook as my state Gov. who took a week to respond to the national guard deployed in NYC subways.

     

    This took 7+ days for a response so to not upset her voting base.  Absolutely disgusting for death to any country to play politics at any level. 

    So, is Michigan any better now than 4 years ago?  GM is moving out too.... Can anyone actually post anything good about what Tlaib has brought to congress?  I would like an opinion or two from the other side of common sense.

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    update on meshitagain, it took a week for Gov. Whitmer to condemn the rhetoric.  It is the same playbook as my state Gov. who took a week to respond to the national guard deployed in NYC subways.

     

    This took 7+ days for a response so to not upset her voting base.  Absolutely disgusting for death to any country to play politics at any level. 

    So, is Michigan any better now than 4 years ago?  GM is moving out too.... Can anyone actually post anything good about what Tlaib has brought to congress?  I would like an opinion or two from the other side of common sense.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Age-old political question: Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?   - This day/month in history...     FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!   April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue.... April 11, 2020 - •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400  What is it at today in 2024?   @fubah2  just a bit above 38,000 Quite a difference!  So ya I would say we are better off today than 4 years ago! Had Trump already achieved 14% unemployment by this point four years ago?    Most recent stats say we are 3.8% unemployment today, which continues a record of 26 consecutive months below 4%

    yes 14.1 %   unemployment actually    4 ys ago

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Age-old political question: Are we better off today than we were 4 yrs ago?   - This day/month in history...     FACT: While in office trump kept the war in Afghanistan going for all 4 years!   April 2020 -  Aside from the human costs, the financial costs to the American taxpayer were estimated at $9 Billion per month! which trump simply allowed to continue.... April 11, 2020 - •  In the markets: DOW Jones struggling around 23,400  What is it at today in 2024?   @fubah2  just a bit above 38,000 Quite a difference!  So ya I would say we are better off today than 4 years ago! Had Trump already achieved 14% unemployment by this point four years ago?    Most recent stats say we are 3.8% unemployment today, which continues a record of 26 consecutive months below 4%

    yes 14.1 %   unemployment actually    4 ys ago

     

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