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    Serious question for the rigtards, aka, majawaja, soblatant, slovak, and friends!

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    electricladylnd
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 5:04 PM ET #1

    While we have been engaged in a "youre a moron" fest for quite some time Im gonna try and tame it down here and "break this whole thing down."

    My first question to you gentlemen is this :


    Do you believe the deck in a local casino's blackjack game with an automatic shuffler is legit?

    In other words, do you feel all 52 cards are there and do you completely trust the shuffling machine and the casino's "integrity" when running their blackjack game?

    Im not saying its fair or unfair, I simply want to hear your answers first and then I'll reply.

    So once again,
    Do you believe the deck in a local casino's blackjack game with an automatic shuffler is legit?
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    While we have been engaged in a "youre a moron" fest for quite some time Im gonna try and tame it down here and "break this whole thing down."

    My first question to you gentlemen is this :


    Do you believe the deck in a local casino's blackjack game with an automatic shuffler is legit?

    In other words, do you feel all 52 cards are there and do you completely trust the shuffling machine and the casino's "integrity" when running their blackjack game?

    Im not saying its fair or unfair, I simply want to hear your answers first and then I'll reply.

    So once again,
    Do you believe the deck in a local casino's blackjack game with an automatic shuffler is legit?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 5:44 PM ET #2

    OMG your gonna try to prove a point. Everybody beware we don't which personality will show up, the drag queen or the arrogant liar.

    OK, so casino BJ legit....By question to you now, do you think online BJ is rigged or legit?!?!


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    OMG your gonna try to prove a point. Everybody beware we don't which personality will show up, the drag queen or the arrogant liar.

    OK, so casino BJ legit....By question to you now, do you think online BJ is rigged or legit?!?!


     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 5:49 PM ET #3

    Im not calling anyone names or being rude in THIS THREAD lol, (see how long that lasts right lol)

    Im not being sarcastic or condescending, just answer the next question then please


    OK, tell me why you would trust the shuffler in a large well known casino when there is so much extra $ to be made by rigging the deck just a little bit?
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    Im not calling anyone names or being rude in THIS THREAD lol, (see how long that lasts right lol)

    Im not being sarcastic or condescending, just answer the next question then please


    OK, tell me why you would trust the shuffler in a large well known casino when there is so much extra $ to be made by rigging the deck just a little bit?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 5:51 PM ET #4

    Ill answer yours when you answer my question
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    Ill answer yours when you answer my question
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 5:53 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Ill answer yours when you answer my question




    Lets go in one direction at a time pal, you want your own Q+A start your own thread


    OK, tell me why you would trust the shuffler in a large well known casino when there is so much extra $ to be made by rigging the deck just a little bit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Ill answer yours when you answer my question




    Lets go in one direction at a time pal, you want your own Q+A start your own thread


    OK, tell me why you would trust the shuffler in a large well known casino when there is so much extra $ to be made by rigging the deck just a little bit?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:05 PM ET #6

    First of all, its a 5 deck shuffler. All the cards are there

    I know how a typical shuffler works, everything is done in front of your eyes. Okay, your gonna say, but how do you know for sure the shuffler isnt programmed (beneath the eye) or some crap, well, unless the shuffler would know exactly how many players are gonna be playing at that table, then how can there be an advantage really unless the dealers are in it too and well, there not.

    So, no one answer any more of his bs until he answers 1 question:
    Is Online BJ rigged or legit?
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    First of all, its a 5 deck shuffler. All the cards are there

    I know how a typical shuffler works, everything is done in front of your eyes. Okay, your gonna say, but how do you know for sure the shuffler isnt programmed (beneath the eye) or some crap, well, unless the shuffler would know exactly how many players are gonna be playing at that table, then how can there be an advantage really unless the dealers are in it too and well, there not.

    So, no one answer any more of his bs until he answers 1 question:
    Is Online BJ rigged or legit?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:09 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    First of all, its a 5 deck shuffler. All the cards are there

    I know how a typical shuffler works, everything is done in front of your eyes. Okay, your gonna say, but how do you know for sure the shuffler isnt programmed (beneath the eye) or some crap, well, unless the shuffler would know exactly how many players are gonna be playing at that table, then how can there be an advantage really unless the dealers are in it too and well, there not.

    So, no one answer any more of his bs until he answers 1 question:
    Is Online BJ rigged or legit?



    Theres cameras at every table that could easily tell the shuffler exactly how many players and even what seat theyre in. When the dealer drops the decks into the shuffler and the little door closes under the table you cant see anything. So why do you automatically trust this shuffler?



    We'll get to your questions when we're done here pal, like I said, lets go one direction at a time
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    First of all, its a 5 deck shuffler. All the cards are there

    I know how a typical shuffler works, everything is done in front of your eyes. Okay, your gonna say, but how do you know for sure the shuffler isnt programmed (beneath the eye) or some crap, well, unless the shuffler would know exactly how many players are gonna be playing at that table, then how can there be an advantage really unless the dealers are in it too and well, there not.

    So, no one answer any more of his bs until he answers 1 question:
    Is Online BJ rigged or legit?



    Theres cameras at every table that could easily tell the shuffler exactly how many players and even what seat theyre in. When the dealer drops the decks into the shuffler and the little door closes under the table you cant see anything. So why do you automatically trust this shuffler?



    We'll get to your questions when we're done here pal, like I said, lets go one direction at a time
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:14 PM ET #8

    Your thread is done unless you answer my question
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    Your thread is done unless you answer my question
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:17 PM ET #9

    But still

    Have you ever played BJ before? You know the deck gets cut too right?
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    But still

    Have you ever played BJ before? You know the deck gets cut too right?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:18 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Your thread is done unless you answer my question



    grow up dude, wait your turn seriously. Im not gonna let you change the whole subject on where Im going here. Ive told you I'll answer all of your questions when Im done here. I know where youre going with your question. If you want me to play along and answer what you want then lets finish this little Q+A first pal, its real simple.

    Also, if you dont wanna answer thats fine. Someone else will come along within a few hours so the thread will hardly "be dead." If you decide to not reply thats fine, you can go lie some more about how I collude in the other threads
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Your thread is done unless you answer my question



    grow up dude, wait your turn seriously. Im not gonna let you change the whole subject on where Im going here. Ive told you I'll answer all of your questions when Im done here. I know where youre going with your question. If you want me to play along and answer what you want then lets finish this little Q+A first pal, its real simple.

    Also, if you dont wanna answer thats fine. Someone else will come along within a few hours so the thread will hardly "be dead." If you decide to not reply thats fine, you can go lie some more about how I collude in the other threads
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:20 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    But still

    Have you ever played BJ before? You know the deck gets cut too right?


    absolutely I have and absolutely I do know the decks get cut by the players and is completely random and uncontrollable. We will get to all that pal
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    But still

    Have you ever played BJ before? You know the deck gets cut too right?


    absolutely I have and absolutely I do know the decks get cut by the players and is completely random and uncontrollable. We will get to all that pal
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:27 PM ET #12

    Ok well I only wanted to know one answer. Anyways Im done.

    But I know you prob believe online BJ is rigged yet you don't think the same traits can carry over to online poker. Very weird stuff, hypocritical in a way but hey, I don't really care.

    BTW, no one answer this clown's questions until he answers ours
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    Ok well I only wanted to know one answer. Anyways Im done.

    But I know you prob believe online BJ is rigged yet you don't think the same traits can carry over to online poker. Very weird stuff, hypocritical in a way but hey, I don't really care.

    BTW, no one answer this clown's questions until he answers ours
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:30 PM ET #13

    One of the "friends" here

    To answer your question, I don't believe it is rigged. The house has the odds ()  in their favor. They'll play fair knowing in the long run, they got you by the balls with those odds.

     

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    One of the "friends" here

    To answer your question, I don't believe it is rigged. The house has the odds ()  in their favor. They'll play fair knowing in the long run, they got you by the balls with those odds.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:33 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Ok well I only wanted to know one answer. Anyways Im done.

    But I know you prob believe online BJ is rigged yet you don't think the same traits can carry over to online poker. Very weird stuff, hypocritical in a way but hey, I don't really care.

    BTW, no one answer this clown's questions until he answers ours



    Yes, and in BJ youre playing AGAINST the house, a thing you so often seem to forget.

    This is getting pretty ridiculous, especially when I see you just making shit up about me colluding in the other threads.

    I'll be back later tonite, knock yourself out
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Ok well I only wanted to know one answer. Anyways Im done.

    But I know you prob believe online BJ is rigged yet you don't think the same traits can carry over to online poker. Very weird stuff, hypocritical in a way but hey, I don't really care.

    BTW, no one answer this clown's questions until he answers ours



    Yes, and in BJ youre playing AGAINST the house, a thing you so often seem to forget.

    This is getting pretty ridiculous, especially when I see you just making shit up about me colluding in the other threads.

    I'll be back later tonite, knock yourself out
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:36 PM ET #15

    Drama queen got his feelings upset, lets move on....thread closed
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    Drama queen got his feelings upset, lets move on....thread closed
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:39 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Drama queen got his feelings upset, lets move on....thread closed


    When I stay on for hours Im a loser with no life

    When I leave for a while Im a drama queen who's feelings got hurt


    I also collude in 1-on-1s for my money.

    I'm in the minority here being a winning player and not a rigtard. Maybe instead of trying to rid the board of the lies I should just bow out and let the morons take over.

    After all, who better to speak about the online game, or poker in general,  than losing players with less than 10 hours experience!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Drama queen got his feelings upset, lets move on....thread closed


    When I stay on for hours Im a loser with no life

    When I leave for a while Im a drama queen who's feelings got hurt


    I also collude in 1-on-1s for my money.

    I'm in the minority here being a winning player and not a rigtard. Maybe instead of trying to rid the board of the lies I should just bow out and let the morons take over.

    After all, who better to speak about the online game, or poker in general,  than losing players with less than 10 hours experience!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 6:44 PM ET #17

    Ok so in conclusion according to electric,

    "Internet BJ is rigged, Online poker is 100% legit"

                   
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    Ok so in conclusion according to electric,

    "Internet BJ is rigged, Online poker is 100% legit"

                   
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2010 - 7:20 PM ET #18

    Last thing, so I can comprehend what you are saying;

    Okay, so online BJ is rigged because you’re playing against the house, thus these same algorithms or whatever you want to call them must also be accessible to online poker, obviously yet because online poker sites don’t necessarily play against you, they don’t need to or intend to use them, right? Yet, even if some sites did use them it’d be very difficult to track them down somewhere in Costa Rica or wherever lol right? Okay so bottom line is that online poker sites are NOT GREEDY enough to manipulate their business. Okay, positive view at life, I wish politics were as legit as online poker
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    Last thing, so I can comprehend what you are saying;

    Okay, so online BJ is rigged because you’re playing against the house, thus these same algorithms or whatever you want to call them must also be accessible to online poker, obviously yet because online poker sites don’t necessarily play against you, they don’t need to or intend to use them, right? Yet, even if some sites did use them it’d be very difficult to track them down somewhere in Costa Rica or wherever lol right? Okay so bottom line is that online poker sites are NOT GREEDY enough to manipulate their business. Okay, positive view at life, I wish politics were as legit as online poker
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2010 - 1:29 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    lady is a retard. they are all rigged. especially blackjack. anyone that plays internet blackjack for money should be shot.

    I dont agrew with your stand on poker.. although the randomization seems weird but you play more hands per hour so you see more crazy shit... but I do fully bacvk you on whoever plays online blackjack should b shot and their families as well. Its that seriouis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    lady is a retard. they are all rigged. especially blackjack. anyone that plays internet blackjack for money should be shot.

    I dont agrew with your stand on poker.. although the randomization seems weird but you play more hands per hour so you see more crazy shit... but I do fully bacvk you on whoever plays online blackjack should b shot and their families as well. Its that seriouis

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2010 - 7:04 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    lady is a retard. they are all rigged. especially blackjack. anyone that plays internet blackjack for money should be shot.




    guy doesnt understand the difference between how a site makes $ off poker and blackjack. Could you be any dumber slovak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    lady is a retard. they are all rigged. especially blackjack. anyone that plays internet blackjack for money should be shot.




    guy doesnt understand the difference between how a site makes $ off poker and blackjack. Could you be any dumber slovak?

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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2010 - 11:08 PM ET #21

    Better question is why would anyone play online BJ? It would be even easier to rig (it IS possible and I'm sure its been done) if a site wanted to.

    Electric....you are never gonna convince anyone, they've got their mind made up. Yes, I think the automatic shuffler is legit and in fact thats why they let you cut the cards, to prove its on the up and up.

    The sad thing about online play is its is a proven fact that cheating has occurred. I'm not saying it happens all the time or every site is rigged. But you have ZERO doubt 99.9% on online gaming is legit? That seems a little naive imo....

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    Better question is why would anyone play online BJ? It would be even easier to rig (it IS possible and I'm sure its been done) if a site wanted to.

    Electric....you are never gonna convince anyone, they've got their mind made up. Yes, I think the automatic shuffler is legit and in fact thats why they let you cut the cards, to prove its on the up and up.

    The sad thing about online play is its is a proven fact that cheating has occurred. I'm not saying it happens all the time or every site is rigged. But you have ZERO doubt 99.9% on online gaming is legit? That seems a little naive imo....

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2010 - 11:43 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Better question is why would anyone play online BJ? It would be even easier to rig (it IS possible and I'm sure its been done) if a site wanted to.

    Electric....you are never gonna convince anyone, they've got their mind made up. Yes, I think the automatic shuffler is legit and in fact thats why they let you cut the cards, to prove its on the up and up.

    The sad thing about online play is its is a proven fact that cheating has occurred. I'm not saying it happens all the time or every site is rigged. But you have ZERO doubt 99.9% on online gaming is legit? That seems a little naive imo....



    I have zero doubt that the site is not riggin the hands for you to lose, like these tards claim.

    Colluding happens absolutely, people have broken in (aka russ hamilton) absolutely. But has anyone on this board been "superused" or is Fulltilt singling them out cuz they just cashed out??? absolutely not, its just fairy tales from the losing player




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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Better question is why would anyone play online BJ? It would be even easier to rig (it IS possible and I'm sure its been done) if a site wanted to.

    Electric....you are never gonna convince anyone, they've got their mind made up. Yes, I think the automatic shuffler is legit and in fact thats why they let you cut the cards, to prove its on the up and up.

    The sad thing about online play is its is a proven fact that cheating has occurred. I'm not saying it happens all the time or every site is rigged. But you have ZERO doubt 99.9% on online gaming is legit? That seems a little naive imo....



    I have zero doubt that the site is not riggin the hands for you to lose, like these tards claim.

    Colluding happens absolutely, people have broken in (aka russ hamilton) absolutely. But has anyone on this board been "superused" or is Fulltilt singling them out cuz they just cashed out??? absolutely not, its just fairy tales from the losing player




     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2010 - 12:07 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:



    I have zero doubt that the site is not riggin the hands for you to lose, like these tards claim.

    Colluding happens absolutely, people have broken in (aka russ hamilton) absolutely. But has anyone on this board been "superused" or is Fulltilt singling them out cuz they just cashed out??? absolutely not, its just fairy tales from the losing player




    But, is it possible? Do you thinks its possible there are "superusers" out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:



    I have zero doubt that the site is not riggin the hands for you to lose, like these tards claim.

    Colluding happens absolutely, people have broken in (aka russ hamilton) absolutely. But has anyone on this board been "superused" or is Fulltilt singling them out cuz they just cashed out??? absolutely not, its just fairy tales from the losing player




    But, is it possible? Do you thinks its possible there are "superusers" out there?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2010 - 12:14 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    But, is it possible? Do you thinks its possible there are "superusers" out there?



    Sure, I think anything is possible

    But do I think its the reason majawaja, so blatant, powerade, and all the other rigtards here have lost their miney online???? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

    The "superuser" argument is pretty weak when the $3 players try and use it as reason theyve lost. That scandal was terrible but these rigtarsds have turned that scandal into the sites rigging the hands against them. People cheat and try to hack into shit everywhere. If someone hacked into Bank of America's system and stole money from some billionaire would you never ever ever trust B+A with your $ again??? of course you wouldnt, youd realize shit happens and know that your $ is still safe. Yet these rigtards see 60minutes and use it an reason they lost their $ which is total bullshit

    Ive never denied that Russ Hamilton did what he did and I dont doubt that at some point in time someone will do it again, thats just human nature and the cyberworld.

    However, now since that happend all the fairy tales are coming out like the site makes you lose after cashouts, the hands dont hold, etc etc etc.

    Cheating occurs live too but noone seems to mention that cuz live you can just say you win money and theres noone there to prove or disprove you. However online where all your results are recorded and when these shitty players can actually see that theyre losing then the excuses start coming

    I mean really, soblatants last post said "Noone wins online, period"

    Slovak "These poker sites arent just giving away free money people"

    Its just pure idiocy
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    But, is it possible? Do you thinks its possible there are "superusers" out there?



    Sure, I think anything is possible

    But do I think its the reason majawaja, so blatant, powerade, and all the other rigtards here have lost their miney online???? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

    The "superuser" argument is pretty weak when the $3 players try and use it as reason theyve lost. That scandal was terrible but these rigtarsds have turned that scandal into the sites rigging the hands against them. People cheat and try to hack into shit everywhere. If someone hacked into Bank of America's system and stole money from some billionaire would you never ever ever trust B+A with your $ again??? of course you wouldnt, youd realize shit happens and know that your $ is still safe. Yet these rigtards see 60minutes and use it an reason they lost their $ which is total bullshit

    Ive never denied that Russ Hamilton did what he did and I dont doubt that at some point in time someone will do it again, thats just human nature and the cyberworld.

    However, now since that happend all the fairy tales are coming out like the site makes you lose after cashouts, the hands dont hold, etc etc etc.

    Cheating occurs live too but noone seems to mention that cuz live you can just say you win money and theres noone there to prove or disprove you. However online where all your results are recorded and when these shitty players can actually see that theyre losing then the excuses start coming

    I mean really, soblatants last post said "Noone wins online, period"

    Slovak "These poker sites arent just giving away free money people"

    Its just pure idiocy
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2010 - 12:18 AM ET #25

    So noone wins online??

    Then I start a blog and win $1800 last week alone online and noone says a word
    Yet if Id lost $5 I bet Im be getting HAMMERED on here

    See what I mean?? I made $1800 last week alone and Im supposed to take some losing players word and views about online poker like majawaja and soblatant when I just win consistently month after month


    Ive played for years but some dude who played one weekend has more credibility on the subject, its just so lame
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    So noone wins online??

    Then I start a blog and win $1800 last week alone online and noone says a word
    Yet if Id lost $5 I bet Im be getting HAMMERED on here

    See what I mean?? I made $1800 last week alone and Im supposed to take some losing players word and views about online poker like majawaja and soblatant when I just win consistently month after month


    Ive played for years but some dude who played one weekend has more credibility on the subject, its just so lame
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