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    Who here actually thinks Trump can win after his stump speech on Mexico?

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    scalabrine
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 9:43 AM ET #1

    Folks, Hillary at -300 on 5Dimes has to be the biggest joke of all-time. It is essentially giving you guaranteed loan shark interest of 33% if you wait 2.5 months.

    Trump is intentionally throwing the election. We know this after yesterday.

    He trailed by 7 points nationally in the polls 2 weeks ago.

    What happened? He was thought to have softened his stance on immigration and better HE STAYED QUIET more often than not and visited Mexico.

    What happened?

    He cut that lead in HALF to 3/4 points in TWO WEEKS.

    Networks go crazy. Here comes Trump!

    All this momentum...

    And what does he do?

    After meeting with Mexican President Enrique Pena, his first sign of rational diplomacy (ya know, a trait held in the highest regard as a President of a Democratic nation), he comes back and says:

    "They'll pay for the wall...they just don't know it yet."

    Wow, whatever little Hispanic support he had before that statement, will surely whittle to nothing now. You just met with the leader of another nation in what appeared to be a cordial meeting and that's your publicly stated reaction?

    What else does he say, "My first HOUR in office, I'm starting to deport illegal immigrants" (Nearly 6 MILLION of them).

    He's polling at 22% among Hispanics and this is sure to drop. You cannot win an election in this nation at that number!

    You CANNOT win an election saying these things publicly to a voting base that already despises you!

    Blacks/Kaepernick - He's polling at 1%. ONE PERCENT among black voters.

    What does he say about Kaepernick? "Maybe he should find another country..."

    Agreeing or disagreeing with Kaepernick is not the point. As a candidate who has almost no minority support in the black community. You just took that 1% to statistically 0%.

    Folks, if those numbers are not disturbing, look at this.

    Among college-aged white women, a group that Romney WON by 6 points, Trump trails by THIRTY POINTS.

    That is unprecedented among GOP candidates!

    I want those who have money on Trump and still believe he can win to come forward.

    Not with a "Hillary is a criminal!" stance or a pom-pom shaking one, but someone who believes Trump will win and will bet on it.

    Forget Hillary.

    Who will take Trump to win today +295? Who?

    I want that person to come forward. I want that person in this thread.

    If you will not, than Hillary at -300 (or if you are ultra-conservative, The field at -355), should be parlayed into every one of your big bets. And you just wait 2.5 months for all that extra money on your big hits (I would say small bets too but you need something to fool around with).

    Folks it is FREE MONEY. He cannot win. Make yourself some money today and tie these bets in with your whoppers and make the books pay YOU the juice plus a nice chunk extra! It only requires some patience for the payout!

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Folks, Hillary at -300 on 5Dimes has to be the biggest joke of all-time. It is essentially giving you guaranteed loan shark interest of 33% if you wait 2.5 months.

    Trump is intentionally throwing the election. We know this after yesterday.

    He trailed by 7 points nationally in the polls 2 weeks ago.

    What happened? He was thought to have softened his stance on immigration and better HE STAYED QUIET more often than not and visited Mexico.

    What happened?

    He cut that lead in HALF to 3/4 points in TWO WEEKS.

    Networks go crazy. Here comes Trump!

    All this momentum...

    And what does he do?

    After meeting with Mexican President Enrique Pena, his first sign of rational diplomacy (ya know, a trait held in the highest regard as a President of a Democratic nation), he comes back and says:

    "They'll pay for the wall...they just don't know it yet."

    Wow, whatever little Hispanic support he had before that statement, will surely whittle to nothing now. You just met with the leader of another nation in what appeared to be a cordial meeting and that's your publicly stated reaction?

    What else does he say, "My first HOUR in office, I'm starting to deport illegal immigrants" (Nearly 6 MILLION of them).

    He's polling at 22% among Hispanics and this is sure to drop. You cannot win an election in this nation at that number!

    You CANNOT win an election saying these things publicly to a voting base that already despises you!

    Blacks/Kaepernick - He's polling at 1%. ONE PERCENT among black voters.

    What does he say about Kaepernick? "Maybe he should find another country..."

    Agreeing or disagreeing with Kaepernick is not the point. As a candidate who has almost no minority support in the black community. You just took that 1% to statistically 0%.

    Folks, if those numbers are not disturbing, look at this.

    Among college-aged white women, a group that Romney WON by 6 points, Trump trails by THIRTY POINTS.

    That is unprecedented among GOP candidates!

    I want those who have money on Trump and still believe he can win to come forward.

    Not with a "Hillary is a criminal!" stance or a pom-pom shaking one, but someone who believes Trump will win and will bet on it.

    Forget Hillary.

    Who will take Trump to win today +295? Who?

    I want that person to come forward. I want that person in this thread.

    If you will not, than Hillary at -300 (or if you are ultra-conservative, The field at -355), should be parlayed into every one of your big bets. And you just wait 2.5 months for all that extra money on your big hits (I would say small bets too but you need something to fool around with).

    Folks it is FREE MONEY. He cannot win. Make yourself some money today and tie these bets in with your whoppers and make the books pay YOU the juice plus a nice chunk extra! It only requires some patience for the payout!

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 9:55 AM ET #2

    I was interested and impressed for about 6 hours between his Mexico trip and the speech.

    I wrote about it in my thread.

    But like the moron he is - he totally blew the whole thing up in his speech.

    Things change quickly in politics - but in order to win he needs to bring more people in - not get the people he already has more excited.

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    I was interested and impressed for about 6 hours between his Mexico trip and the speech.

    I wrote about it in my thread.

    But like the moron he is - he totally blew the whole thing up in his speech.

    Things change quickly in politics - but in order to win he needs to bring more people in - not get the people he already has more excited.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 10:23 AM ET #3

    Trump has about as much chance of winning this election as the twins do of taking the world series in a sweep. So four years of Hillary. How bad can it get? I mean realistically she is extending a failed administrations policies for another four years. 

    Courts move to the far left. We probably be engaged fighting Isis or daesh. We have many more illegals flooding across the border and she stop all sales of new semi auto weapons that be just. The first 100 days.

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    Trump has about as much chance of winning this election as the twins do of taking the world series in a sweep. So four years of Hillary. How bad can it get? I mean realistically she is extending a failed administrations policies for another four years. 

    Courts move to the far left. We probably be engaged fighting Isis or daesh. We have many more illegals flooding across the border and she stop all sales of new semi auto weapons that be just. The first 100 days.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 10:36 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I was interested and impressed for about 6 hours between his Mexico trip and the speech.

    I wrote about it in my thread.

    But like the moron he is - he totally blew the whole thing up in his speech.

    Things change quickly in politics - but in order to win he needs to bring more people in - not get the people he already has more excited.

     

    Wasn't it amazing Van?

    I mean, he cannot win but the 'pivot' on this immigration stance was right there for him to take to maintain momentum in the polls. A 'reasonable' Trump was forthcoming. The GOP would forgive and forget, or so they though, 

    And then Ann Coulter, who wrote in a book she just released that Trump was unwavering on immigration, was getting roasted in the media for writing that, hence the pivot was here with a Trump immigration stance that was decidedly softer.

    And then, almost like she dialed up his campaign demanding a 180 he puts the clamps down and seals the deal on his loss with his deportation statements and Wall comments.

    I listen to this in my car like it's the twilight zone and someone dubbed together sound bites to make him look bad. But it's real. It's quite real.

    Does he not want to lose? Who here believes he wants to win saying these things?

    His entire campaign staff should be put in rubber rooms ASAP if all of this is an intentional strategy to win this election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I was interested and impressed for about 6 hours between his Mexico trip and the speech.

    I wrote about it in my thread.

    But like the moron he is - he totally blew the whole thing up in his speech.

    Things change quickly in politics - but in order to win he needs to bring more people in - not get the people he already has more excited.

     

    Wasn't it amazing Van?

    I mean, he cannot win but the 'pivot' on this immigration stance was right there for him to take to maintain momentum in the polls. A 'reasonable' Trump was forthcoming. The GOP would forgive and forget, or so they though, 

    And then Ann Coulter, who wrote in a book she just released that Trump was unwavering on immigration, was getting roasted in the media for writing that, hence the pivot was here with a Trump immigration stance that was decidedly softer.

    And then, almost like she dialed up his campaign demanding a 180 he puts the clamps down and seals the deal on his loss with his deportation statements and Wall comments.

    I listen to this in my car like it's the twilight zone and someone dubbed together sound bites to make him look bad. But it's real. It's quite real.

    Does he not want to lose? Who here believes he wants to win saying these things?

    His entire campaign staff should be put in rubber rooms ASAP if all of this is an intentional strategy to win this election.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 11:18 AM ET #5

    Not sure why we r trying to attribute rational thoughts to an irrational person
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    Not sure why we r trying to attribute rational thoughts to an irrational person
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 11:21 AM ET #6

    it's the same dilemma republican candidates have had for a while.  you have to be Arizona Trump to win the primary and Mexico Trump to have a shot at the general election and it just doesn't work. 
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    it's the same dilemma republican candidates have had for a while.  you have to be Arizona Trump to win the primary and Mexico Trump to have a shot at the general election and it just doesn't work. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 1:10 PM ET #7

    so instead of thinking you are a hotshot 10 weeks before the election, why dont u show/tell us how much ur betting on her, and then bet more, put ur house on it, put something bigger on it. come on hotshot. show us how good you are at predicting the future. and then come election time, we'll see what happens
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    so instead of thinking you are a hotshot 10 weeks before the election, why dont u show/tell us how much ur betting on her, and then bet more, put ur house on it, put something bigger on it. come on hotshot. show us how good you are at predicting the future. and then come election time, we'll see what happens
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 1:43 PM ET #8

    I guarantee our old friend Collegegambler LOVES Trump.

    I see him as the prototype for a Trump supporter.
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    I guarantee our old friend Collegegambler LOVES Trump.

    I see him as the prototype for a Trump supporter.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 2:01 PM ET #9

    Yes. Trump can win. What has Hillary actually said or accomplished in her life that makes you think she is the second coming of George Washington and Ronald Reagan?
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    Yes. Trump can win. What has Hillary actually said or accomplished in her life that makes you think she is the second coming of George Washington and Ronald Reagan?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 3:05 PM ET #10

    https://www.nationalreview.com/article/439520/fox-news-hurts-conservative-movement

    Great article.......Fox news is killing gop/conservatism. Since Fox started in 1996, they have only won the popular vote in GE once(2004).



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    https://www.nationalreview.com/article/439520/fox-news-hurts-conservative-movement

    Great article.......Fox news is killing gop/conservatism. Since Fox started in 1996, they have only won the popular vote in GE once(2004).



     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 3:11 PM ET #11

    Yes. Fox News has had their little coup. I quit watching all together months ago. Feel like a new person.
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    Yes. Fox News has had their little coup. I quit watching all together months ago. Feel like a new person.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 5:30 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:

    so instead of thinking you are a hotshot 10 weeks before the election, why dont u show/tell us how much ur betting on her, and then bet more, put ur house on it, put something bigger on it. come on hotshot. show us how good you are at predicting the future. and then come election time, we'll see what happens

    I have her parlayed into every bet. Literally every one.

    It is a guarantee that Trump cannot win. You simply can't alienate this many people in a national election and win. 

    The funniest quote I heard about Trump came from Julian Assange, world-reknowned Wikileaks founder.

    He said he wouldn't care if he had dirt on Trump because nothing he could ever release could be more sensational than anything he says. And he didn't laugh afterwards. He was dead serious.

    If the guy just shut his mouth the rest of the campaign and even ditched the debates, he'd finish ahead of where he will end up. And remember this is up against one of the most profoundly unpopular democratic candidates of all-time.

    I ask again, where are the Trump +295 takers??? There can't be a single one. Even the worst square on here can see he can't win. Therefore, why isn't everyone max betting -300. Yes it's -300 but again, that's a 33% ROI for letting your money sit for 2.5 months. Compare this to current interest rates at near zero!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:

    so instead of thinking you are a hotshot 10 weeks before the election, why dont u show/tell us how much ur betting on her, and then bet more, put ur house on it, put something bigger on it. come on hotshot. show us how good you are at predicting the future. and then come election time, we'll see what happens

    I have her parlayed into every bet. Literally every one.

    It is a guarantee that Trump cannot win. You simply can't alienate this many people in a national election and win. 

    The funniest quote I heard about Trump came from Julian Assange, world-reknowned Wikileaks founder.

    He said he wouldn't care if he had dirt on Trump because nothing he could ever release could be more sensational than anything he says. And he didn't laugh afterwards. He was dead serious.

    If the guy just shut his mouth the rest of the campaign and even ditched the debates, he'd finish ahead of where he will end up. And remember this is up against one of the most profoundly unpopular democratic candidates of all-time.

    I ask again, where are the Trump +295 takers??? There can't be a single one. Even the worst square on here can see he can't win. Therefore, why isn't everyone max betting -300. Yes it's -300 but again, that's a 33% ROI for letting your money sit for 2.5 months. Compare this to current interest rates at near zero!?!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 7:59 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Snake30:

    I guarantee our old friend Collegegambler LOVES Trump.

    I see him as the prototype for a Trump supporter.

    There seems to be plenty of prototypes for the the trump supporter here. 

    The reality is that no matter what trump does or says the emotional low information GOP voting majority that casted their ballots in unison will never waiver in their blind supports.   

    In fact they will spin every event as another reason to vote for him or why he will win. You see them on this site, the real sad ones. The one's that will argue for trump undyingly and call everyone else stupid and an idiot and liberal if you don't agree with their propaganda. 

    Really sad
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    I guarantee our old friend Collegegambler LOVES Trump.

    I see him as the prototype for a Trump supporter.

    There seems to be plenty of prototypes for the the trump supporter here. 

    The reality is that no matter what trump does or says the emotional low information GOP voting majority that casted their ballots in unison will never waiver in their blind supports.   

    In fact they will spin every event as another reason to vote for him or why he will win. You see them on this site, the real sad ones. The one's that will argue for trump undyingly and call everyone else stupid and an idiot and liberal if you don't agree with their propaganda. 

    Really sad
     
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    Hillary Clinton is such a sure win ,,I can hardly believe that betting on the election isn't off the board .....with Hillary being a gold plate special ..five star play ...a G-Play that can't lose and all . ..  how can the house possibly make money with that much exposure ?

    Oh ! I know the Hillary betters are buying the hook ..that explains it.

    I guess you can't beat the wise guys..


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    Hillary Clinton is such a sure win ,,I can hardly believe that betting on the election isn't off the board .....with Hillary being a gold plate special ..five star play ...a G-Play that can't lose and all . ..  how can the house possibly make money with that much exposure ?

    Oh ! I know the Hillary betters are buying the hook ..that explains it.

    I guess you can't beat the wise guys..


     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 10:03 PM ET #15

    There is still a possibility that Hillary will be taken down as the Democratic nominee. Trump surging. Hillary moving way up in class. 10k claimer running against Affirmed.
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    There is still a possibility that Hillary will be taken down as the Democratic nominee. Trump surging. Hillary moving way up in class. 10k claimer running against Affirmed.
     
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    Trump is running against the most corrupt/incompetent/dishonest career politician I've ever seen. The country is dick and tired of career politicians, especially her... Yes he can win, she's a joke just like that corrupt to the core party. I'm amazed that not 1 democrat has the stones to say anything against her. At least some republicans have made their thoughts about Trump public. I guess the DNC laid down the law to the party that u will support this corrupt c)nt or else. Today it was proven yet again that she's a LIAR. How anyone could bet $ on her tells me plenty about you....
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    Trump is running against the most corrupt/incompetent/dishonest career politician I've ever seen. The country is dick and tired of career politicians, especially her... Yes he can win, she's a joke just like that corrupt to the core party. I'm amazed that not 1 democrat has the stones to say anything against her. At least some republicans have made their thoughts about Trump public. I guess the DNC laid down the law to the party that u will support this corrupt c)nt or else. Today it was proven yet again that she's a LIAR. How anyone could bet $ on her tells me plenty about you....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 11:22 PM ET #17

    Sarasota/Sundance - Where are your plays? Are you playing the +295? NO.

    And the only reason you won't play Hillary is because of your profound dislike of her.

    Me? I'll parlay every bet with her, take the book's juice and then make them pay me a premium on my original bet.

    No one is coming on here saying -300 (I actually have a lot of her at -220) is great. It's not. But it is when Donald is on the other side. His own recently formed Hispanic Coalition is disbanding as I type just for what came out of his mouth on Wednesday!

    Who would put money on this guy???? WHO??? I mean if you have him at 50-1 congrats on the hedge but at +295 who is betting him?

    There isn't a single poster here in their right mind, square or sharp that is doing so!

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    Sarasota/Sundance - Where are your plays? Are you playing the +295? NO.

    And the only reason you won't play Hillary is because of your profound dislike of her.

    Me? I'll parlay every bet with her, take the book's juice and then make them pay me a premium on my original bet.

    No one is coming on here saying -300 (I actually have a lot of her at -220) is great. It's not. But it is when Donald is on the other side. His own recently formed Hispanic Coalition is disbanding as I type just for what came out of his mouth on Wednesday!

    Who would put money on this guy???? WHO??? I mean if you have him at 50-1 congrats on the hedge but at +295 who is betting him?

    There isn't a single poster here in their right mind, square or sharp that is doing so!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 11:27 PM ET #18

    Wait til your girlfriend get burned to the ground at the debates. She's not going to have a ball less press questioning her - which btw she still avoids like the plague. Trump will expose her A$$ to the world. Yoga routine emails - yeah right... Put your life savings on her please...
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    Wait til your girlfriend get burned to the ground at the debates. She's not going to have a ball less press questioning her - which btw she still avoids like the plague. Trump will expose her A$$ to the world. Yoga routine emails - yeah right... Put your life savings on her please...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Wait til your girlfriend get burned to the ground at the debates. She's not going to have a ball less press questioning her - which btw she still avoids like the plague. Trump will expose her A$$ to the world. Yoga routine emails - yeah right... Put your life savings on her please...

    OK...  Lets say Trump buries her in the debates.

    Is that going to make latino, women, and black voters vote for Trump in FL, NC, MI, VA, OH, and PA?

    That is it in a nutshell.  That is what will decide the election - and btw - trump needs them all - not just some.

    So the point Scal is making is not being received by Trump fanboys like yourself.  It's not about who you like.  You sound like a typical fan.  Tell us how Trump wins those states, wins those demographics - even with a debate win.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Wait til your girlfriend get burned to the ground at the debates. She's not going to have a ball less press questioning her - which btw she still avoids like the plague. Trump will expose her A$$ to the world. Yoga routine emails - yeah right... Put your life savings on her please...

    OK...  Lets say Trump buries her in the debates.

    Is that going to make latino, women, and black voters vote for Trump in FL, NC, MI, VA, OH, and PA?

    That is it in a nutshell.  That is what will decide the election - and btw - trump needs them all - not just some.

    So the point Scal is making is not being received by Trump fanboys like yourself.  It's not about who you like.  You sound like a typical fan.  Tell us how Trump wins those states, wins those demographics - even with a debate win.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2016 - 12:04 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    There is still a possibility that Hillary will be taken down as the Democratic nominee. Trump surging. Hillary moving way up in class. 10k claimer running against Affirmed.

    Alydar she's not....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    There is still a possibility that Hillary will be taken down as the Democratic nominee. Trump surging. Hillary moving way up in class. 10k claimer running against Affirmed.

    Alydar she's not....
     
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    Are if it were a sealed deal like Bernie wins Vermont Hillary wins Georgia wouldn't the international betting odds be moving to neg 600 or so? 
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    Are if it were a sealed deal like Bernie wins Vermont Hillary wins Georgia wouldn't the international betting odds be moving to neg 600 or so? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I have her parlayed into every bet. Literally every one.

    It is a guarantee that Trump cannot win. You simply can't alienate this many people in a national election and win. 

    The funniest quote I heard about Trump came from Julian Assange, world-reknowned Wikileaks founder.

    He said he wouldn't care if he had dirt on Trump because nothing he could ever release could be more sensational than anything he says. And he didn't laugh afterwards. He was dead serious.

    If the guy just shut his mouth the rest of the campaign and even ditched the debates, he'd finish ahead of where he will end up. And remember this is up against one of the most profoundly unpopular democratic candidates of all-time.

    I ask again, where are the Trump +295 takers??? There can't be a single one. Even the worst square on here can see he can't win. Therefore, why isn't everyone max betting -300. Yes it's -300 but again, that's a 33% ROI for letting your money sit for 2.5 months. Compare this to current interest rates at near zero!?!

    Why not short a stock?

    I took him at +275 months ago...    

    Ask all the people who bet against Brexit how it will take forever to pay for that juice. 

    No value in that juice.
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    I have her parlayed into every bet. Literally every one.

    It is a guarantee that Trump cannot win. You simply can't alienate this many people in a national election and win. 

    The funniest quote I heard about Trump came from Julian Assange, world-reknowned Wikileaks founder.

    He said he wouldn't care if he had dirt on Trump because nothing he could ever release could be more sensational than anything he says. And he didn't laugh afterwards. He was dead serious.

    If the guy just shut his mouth the rest of the campaign and even ditched the debates, he'd finish ahead of where he will end up. And remember this is up against one of the most profoundly unpopular democratic candidates of all-time.

    I ask again, where are the Trump +295 takers??? There can't be a single one. Even the worst square on here can see he can't win. Therefore, why isn't everyone max betting -300. Yes it's -300 but again, that's a 33% ROI for letting your money sit for 2.5 months. Compare this to current interest rates at near zero!?!

    Why not short a stock?

    I took him at +275 months ago...    

    Ask all the people who bet against Brexit how it will take forever to pay for that juice. 

    No value in that juice.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Wait til your girlfriend get burned to the ground at the debates. She's not going to have a ball less press questioning her - which btw she still avoids like the plague. Trump will expose her A$$ to the world. Yoga routine emails - yeah right... Put your life savings on her please...
    OK...  Lets say Trump buries her in the debates.Is that going to make latino, women, and black voters vote for Trump in FL, NC, MI, VA, OH, and PA?That is it in a nutshell.  That is what will decide the election - and btw - trump needs them all - not just some.So the point Scal is making is not being received by Trump fanboys like yourself.  It's not about who you like.  You sound like a typical fan.  Tell us how Trump wins those states, wins those demographics - even with a debate win.

    Your assuming they're motivated by her to go vote. She couldn't beat an unknown first term senator 8 years ago when she was less corrupt and nowhere near this untrustworthy... I think that's going to determine the election. Trumps supporters are motivated and excited and the witch was the heir apparent from jump. The DNC decided who was going to be the nominee, an unpopular one at that. She doesn't motivate anybody to go out and vote for her...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Wait til your girlfriend get burned to the ground at the debates. She's not going to have a ball less press questioning her - which btw she still avoids like the plague. Trump will expose her A$$ to the world. Yoga routine emails - yeah right... Put your life savings on her please...
    OK...  Lets say Trump buries her in the debates.Is that going to make latino, women, and black voters vote for Trump in FL, NC, MI, VA, OH, and PA?That is it in a nutshell.  That is what will decide the election - and btw - trump needs them all - not just some.So the point Scal is making is not being received by Trump fanboys like yourself.  It's not about who you like.  You sound like a typical fan.  Tell us how Trump wins those states, wins those demographics - even with a debate win.

    Your assuming they're motivated by her to go vote. She couldn't beat an unknown first term senator 8 years ago when she was less corrupt and nowhere near this untrustworthy... I think that's going to determine the election. Trumps supporters are motivated and excited and the witch was the heir apparent from jump. The DNC decided who was going to be the nominee, an unpopular one at that. She doesn't motivate anybody to go out and vote for her...
     
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    I'm convinced now that after the immigration speech, the only way Clinton loses is if something shows up in the 15K+ "new" emails or 9/11 type attack.  Trump is unable pivot and he has no policy left that will change middle of the road voters' mind.  His base is the very limited white non-college and no ground game to get the non All-in Trump voters to ballot on election day.

    The longer the road he's on, the more Rep will bail on him as they don't want to lose big down-ballot.  How many rallies has he been to where the local Rep Congressman or Senator shows up beside him?  His establishment surrogates are Christie and Giulianni.  The usual GOP big donors (Koch brothers, etc) are staying clear of him.

    We know there's nothing illegal in these 15K emails as FBI have already gone over them, need something more than quid-pro-quo proof.

    GL!
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    I'm convinced now that after the immigration speech, the only way Clinton loses is if something shows up in the 15K+ "new" emails or 9/11 type attack.  Trump is unable pivot and he has no policy left that will change middle of the road voters' mind.  His base is the very limited white non-college and no ground game to get the non All-in Trump voters to ballot on election day.

    The longer the road he's on, the more Rep will bail on him as they don't want to lose big down-ballot.  How many rallies has he been to where the local Rep Congressman or Senator shows up beside him?  His establishment surrogates are Christie and Giulianni.  The usual GOP big donors (Koch brothers, etc) are staying clear of him.

    We know there's nothing illegal in these 15K emails as FBI have already gone over them, need something more than quid-pro-quo proof.

    GL!
     
     
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    The most astonishing statement Hillary Clinton made to date was in the FBI’s notes concerning its July 2 interview with Clinton at the FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C.

    Hillary told the FBI she didn't know what the parenthetical capital ‘C’ meant before a paragraph within her captioned email.....

    Well, everyone knows what the "C" word really means when it's addressed to you Hillary 
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    The most astonishing statement Hillary Clinton made to date was in the FBI’s notes concerning its July 2 interview with Clinton at the FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C.

    Hillary told the FBI she didn't know what the parenthetical capital ‘C’ meant before a paragraph within her captioned email.....

    Well, everyone knows what the "C" word really means when it's addressed to you Hillary 
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