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    TNF NYJets  +1 JAX . Incredible early action on the Jaguars as this opened the Jets -2 and we've crossed the bridge. Realistically it doesn't matter unless you expect this to be a 1 point game in either direction. Both teams cling to playoff hopes with Jax actually in a better position to do so. This game is critical because they can't fall more than 1 game back of Tennessee before the final week showdown with the Titans at home.

    Jags are a team which has been an analytical darling all year and they're finally paying dividends. Lawrence is becoming that generational talent and the entire offense is working. Trouble with starting LG Cam Robinson out for the season, but backup Walker Little a 2nd round pick from Stanford more than held his own against Micah Parsons in relief last week. Overall this is a healthy unit that has hit a stride.

    The defense hasn't been good since early in the year. Despite 3 1st round draft picks along the defensive line, they haven't been able to really affect a game all year. The linebackers have sucked all year and the secondary is comprised of 2 stars and 2 scrubs which leaves them vulnerable to a vertical passing attack...which the Jets don't have.

    The health of Quinn Williams is important. With him the Jets defense is imposing, without him they can be had. Zach Wilson should start again on a short week and should be better but better than what? He still makes easy throws look hard.

    This will be Jack's first game in a cold environment all year. That means something. The Jets like Jax are on a short week but they stayed home, Jags have to travel. 

    All in all this is the pivotal game of the year for Jacksonville. They're riding a wave.  The Jets with Wilson and Saleh's incompetence at clock management look fried. The Jags are a train to climb aboard and I would certainly recommend them for a standard unit play.

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    TNF NYJets  +1 JAX . Incredible early action on the Jaguars as this opened the Jets -2 and we've crossed the bridge. Realistically it doesn't matter unless you expect this to be a 1 point game in either direction. Both teams cling to playoff hopes with Jax actually in a better position to do so. This game is critical because they can't fall more than 1 game back of Tennessee before the final week showdown with the Titans at home.

    Jags are a team which has been an analytical darling all year and they're finally paying dividends. Lawrence is becoming that generational talent and the entire offense is working. Trouble with starting LG Cam Robinson out for the season, but backup Walker Little a 2nd round pick from Stanford more than held his own against Micah Parsons in relief last week. Overall this is a healthy unit that has hit a stride.

    The defense hasn't been good since early in the year. Despite 3 1st round draft picks along the defensive line, they haven't been able to really affect a game all year. The linebackers have sucked all year and the secondary is comprised of 2 stars and 2 scrubs which leaves them vulnerable to a vertical passing attack...which the Jets don't have.

    The health of Quinn Williams is important. With him the Jets defense is imposing, without him they can be had. Zach Wilson should start again on a short week and should be better but better than what? He still makes easy throws look hard.

    This will be Jack's first game in a cold environment all year. That means something. The Jets like Jax are on a short week but they stayed home, Jags have to travel. 

    All in all this is the pivotal game of the year for Jacksonville. They're riding a wave.  The Jets with Wilson and Saleh's incompetence at clock management look fried. The Jags are a train to climb aboard and I would certainly recommend them for a standard unit play.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:08 PM ET #2

    @Getty3

     Nice cap on the jax 1st cold weather game...was 1 angle I debating how heavy to weigh

     

    Must win for both teams...Jets need it to stay in WC hunt...jags still alive for division

     

    Fading Wilson never a bad idea..first thing that popped into my head when I saw the matchup

     

    The Jax cold weather thing really hard to cap...it will for sure have an effect but to what extent

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    @Getty3

     Nice cap on the jax 1st cold weather game...was 1 angle I debating how heavy to weigh

     

    Must win for both teams...Jets need it to stay in WC hunt...jags still alive for division

     

    Fading Wilson never a bad idea..first thing that popped into my head when I saw the matchup

     

    The Jax cold weather thing really hard to cap...it will for sure have an effect but to what extent

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:25 PM ET #3

    peace_5

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    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:29 PM ET #4

    Heck buddy you might as well keep going bigsmile who the hell knows whats up with TW.

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    Heck buddy you might as well keep going bigsmile who the hell knows whats up with TW.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:32 PM ET #5

    54 degrees n rain...an_lightening

    Thursday night in NY...peace_5

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    54 degrees n rain...an_lightening

    Thursday night in NY...peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:32 PM ET #6

    54 degrees n rain...an_lightening

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    54 degrees n rain...an_lightening

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:38 PM ET #7

    The cold weather angle for me is not too much of a factor, how does one deal with cold as a player. Well you wear some thermal drawers and you keep moving. jmo

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    The cold weather angle for me is not too much of a factor, how does one deal with cold as a player. Well you wear some thermal drawers and you keep moving. jmo

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:41 PM ET #8

    @Biscuiteater1

     We're supposed to get anywhere from 11 to 24 inches of snow thur/fri in Chicago. Temp -1 on Saturday, strong winds, wind chill in the negative teens. The Bills play the Bears...

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    @Biscuiteater1

     We're supposed to get anywhere from 11 to 24 inches of snow thur/fri in Chicago. Temp -1 on Saturday, strong winds, wind chill in the negative teens. The Bills play the Bears...

     
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    The warnings that we're getting about this storm as of now are frightening. They're saying that travel will be impossible, power outages are highly likely etc...

    If I were the nfl, they'd be smart to looking into another venue for this game. Lions and Colts facilities would be available on Christmas Eve.

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    The warnings that we're getting about this storm as of now are frightening. They're saying that travel will be impossible, power outages are highly likely etc...

    If I were the nfl, they'd be smart to looking into another venue for this game. Lions and Colts facilities would be available on Christmas Eve.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:46 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    54 degrees n rain... Thursday night in NY...

    54 degrees is balmy for NY. Neither team has an imposing rushing game. The Jets might be back to using Carter at RB who has been benched twice for Hall and then Knight. Someone has to pass the ball and the Jags do it a hell of a lot better than the Jets. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    54 degrees n rain... Thursday night in NY...

    54 degrees is balmy for NY. Neither team has an imposing rushing game. The Jets might be back to using Carter at RB who has been benched twice for Hall and then Knight. Someone has to pass the ball and the Jags do it a hell of a lot better than the Jets. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:47 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by buunkmmorland:

    @undermysac  negative teens,,,,and im worried about it being 28 to 30 down here in fla when i get back fri nite,,,,,,i used to be  man when i lived in nyc,,,,,,20 yrs in fla weather make me a puss,,,,,although as i said last nite i dont own long pants down here, just 2 suits, 1 for weddings the other for funerals,,,,,

    reallyhappy

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    Quote Originally Posted by buunkmmorland:

    @undermysac  negative teens,,,,and im worried about it being 28 to 30 down here in fla when i get back fri nite,,,,,,i used to be  man when i lived in nyc,,,,,,20 yrs in fla weather make me a puss,,,,,although as i said last nite i dont own long pants down here, just 2 suits, 1 for weddings the other for funerals,,,,,

    reallyhappy

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @Biscuiteater1  We're supposed to get anywhere from 11 to 24 inches of snow thur/fri in Chicago. Temp -1 on Saturday, strong winds, wind chill in the negative teens. The Bills play the Bears...

    My oldest son lives in Indy and is planning to go skating at the ribbon path or something in Chicago on Thursday with his Gfriend. Then coming to visit mom and pop on Friday. That weather sounds both beautiful and brutal at the same time. I love falling snow, I just hate the aftermath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @Biscuiteater1  We're supposed to get anywhere from 11 to 24 inches of snow thur/fri in Chicago. Temp -1 on Saturday, strong winds, wind chill in the negative teens. The Bills play the Bears...

    My oldest son lives in Indy and is planning to go skating at the ribbon path or something in Chicago on Thursday with his Gfriend. Then coming to visit mom and pop on Friday. That weather sounds both beautiful and brutal at the same time. I love falling snow, I just hate the aftermath.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:55 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @Biscuiteater1  We're supposed to get anywhere from 11 to 24 inches of snow thur/fri in Chicago. Temp -1 on Saturday, strong winds, wind chill in the negative teens. The Bills play the Bears...
    well of course thats different, i was talking generally about warm weather teams playing in cold temps.You better get to the store and stock up for the weekend. reallyhappy

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @Biscuiteater1  We're supposed to get anywhere from 11 to 24 inches of snow thur/fri in Chicago. Temp -1 on Saturday, strong winds, wind chill in the negative teens. The Bills play the Bears...
    well of course thats different, i was talking generally about warm weather teams playing in cold temps.You better get to the store and stock up for the weekend. reallyhappy

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:57 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @Biscuiteater1  We're supposed to get anywhere from 11 to 24 inches of snow thur/fri in Chicago. Temp -1 on Saturday, strong winds, wind chill in the negative teens. The Bills play the Bears...

    Go Cozy up with ODB, he's got plenty of Brock Purdy jerseys to burn for heat

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @Biscuiteater1  We're supposed to get anywhere from 11 to 24 inches of snow thur/fri in Chicago. Temp -1 on Saturday, strong winds, wind chill in the negative teens. The Bills play the Bears...

    Go Cozy up with ODB, he's got plenty of Brock Purdy jerseys to burn for heat

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 2:59 PM ET #15

    Jags division odds went from +375 to Even, Titans down to -130.  I waited too long, need Jets win for sure

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    Jags division odds went from +375 to Even, Titans down to -130.  I waited too long, need Jets win for sure

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    The warnings that we're getting about this storm as of now are frightening. They're saying that travel will be impossible, power outages are highly likely etc... If I were the nfl, they'd be smart to looking into another venue for this game. Lions and Colts facilities would be available on Christmas Eve.
    move to monday nite maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    The warnings that we're getting about this storm as of now are frightening. They're saying that travel will be impossible, power outages are highly likely etc... If I were the nfl, they'd be smart to looking into another venue for this game. Lions and Colts facilities would be available on Christmas Eve.
    move to monday nite maybe.

     
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    Also, (mini rant coming)  why in the fuck are we still playing Thursday night games this late in the season?  Absolutely ridiculous to have any game with playoff/division implications on 3 days rest, or any game at all.  After 14 weeks of playing there should not be any short week except for Sun-Sat or Mon-Sun.  They need to stop Thursdays after Thanksgiving.  

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    Also, (mini rant coming)  why in the fuck are we still playing Thursday night games this late in the season?  Absolutely ridiculous to have any game with playoff/division implications on 3 days rest, or any game at all.  After 14 weeks of playing there should not be any short week except for Sun-Sat or Mon-Sun.  They need to stop Thursdays after Thanksgiving.  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2022 - 8:15 AM ET #18

    Jack -1'  E  @ FD

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    Jack -1'  E  @ FD

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2022 - 1:21 PM ET #19

    Sharp bet Getty, I like it.

    Bears/Bills total, look ahead 46, re open 43, now 40.5.

    The weather outside is frightful 

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    Sharp bet Getty, I like it.

    Bears/Bills total, look ahead 46, re open 43, now 40.5.

    The weather outside is frightful 

     
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    Jags get my coin (to win).  {Evens}

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    Jags get my coin (to win).  {Evens}

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2022 - 4:52 PM ET #21

    I’ll take a stab @ Over 37 for 5u. peace_5

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    I’ll take a stab @ Over 37 for 5u. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrax:

    I’ll take a stab @ Over 37 for 5u.

    Given how the Jaguars have been in so many high scoring games lately, you either have the easy side or the fool's gold side. 

    I have these on this game:

    Jax -1

    Jax/NYJ Under 19.5 for the 1H

    First score a FG

    Defensive/Special teams TD? Yes

    Etienne Over 14.5 receiving yards.

    5-0 sweep upcoming unless I don't win them all. Simple logic like Shrimp and Cy have been preaching today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrax:

    I’ll take a stab @ Over 37 for 5u.

    Given how the Jaguars have been in so many high scoring games lately, you either have the easy side or the fool's gold side. 

    I have these on this game:

    Jax -1

    Jax/NYJ Under 19.5 for the 1H

    First score a FG

    Defensive/Special teams TD? Yes

    Etienne Over 14.5 receiving yards.

    5-0 sweep upcoming unless I don't win them all. Simple logic like Shrimp and Cy have been preaching today.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2022 - 11:07 AM ET #23

    Getty - I guess we’ll find out tonight.  I do like the Jags+2.5 pick peace_5

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    Getty - I guess we’ll find out tonight.  I do like the Jags+2.5 pick peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2022 - 1:19 PM ET #24

    Will you be imbibing this evening and if so what might it be. reallyhappy

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    Will you be imbibing this evening and if so what might it be. reallyhappy

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2022 - 6:03 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrax: I’ll take a stab @ Over 37 for 5u. Given how the Jaguars have been in so many high scoring games lately, you either have the easy side or the fool's gold side.  I have these on this game: Jax -1 Jax/NYJ Under 19.5 for the 1H First score a FG Defensive/Special teams TD? Yes Etienne Over 14.5 receiving yards. 5-0 sweep upcoming unless I don't win them all. Simple logic like Shrimp and Cy have been preaching today.

    4-1

    You got the defensive td bet wrong

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrax: I’ll take a stab @ Over 37 for 5u. Given how the Jaguars have been in so many high scoring games lately, you either have the easy side or the fool's gold side.  I have these on this game: Jax -1 Jax/NYJ Under 19.5 for the 1H First score a FG Defensive/Special teams TD? Yes Etienne Over 14.5 receiving yards. 5-0 sweep upcoming unless I don't win them all. Simple logic like Shrimp and Cy have been preaching today.

    4-1

    You got the defensive td bet wrong

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Idiot

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