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    SOTA30
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 12:19 AM ET #1

    Lost money tonight on two games in which both teams had 2 run leads (and outs) going into the 9th inning.  Bullpen pitchers are scum of the fucking earth.  One job.  Don't give away free bases on walks and get outs.  

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    Lost money tonight on two games in which both teams had 2 run leads (and outs) going into the 9th inning.  Bullpen pitchers are scum of the fucking earth.  One job.  Don't give away free bases on walks and get outs.  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 12:25 AM ET #2

    Fair

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    Fair

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 12:29 AM ET #3

    That's just bad luck cuz Helsley was rock solid 33 saves and Anaheim bullpen was among the league leaders for several weeks 

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    That's just bad luck cuz Helsley was rock solid 33 saves and Anaheim bullpen was among the league leaders for several weeks 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 12:45 AM ET #4

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     Let me guess the freaking cardinals?! I lost to literally in the 9th this pos was 0-2 on the count with 2 outs and couldn’t even close the game. POS I can’t wait for football I’m so over baseball man.

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     Let me guess the freaking cardinals?! I lost to literally in the 9th this pos was 0-2 on the count with 2 outs and couldn’t even close the game. POS I can’t wait for football I’m so over baseball man.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 12:47 AM ET #5

    Had the Under 8. I feel your pain. Cubs trade at the deadline - now all of a sudden - they’re making a push wtf is this?! 

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    Had the Under 8. I feel your pain. Cubs trade at the deadline - now all of a sudden - they’re making a push wtf is this?! 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 12:50 AM ET #6

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     That was one of them.  And then the Angels reliever has 2 strikes and 2 outs in the 9th with the tying run at plate (because he walked the leadoff man) and gives up a meatball down the middle after he had already thrown 3 balls to the guy.  So much for trying to handicap... felt I was on the right side for both games and then have it stolen in the 9th.  I know it's a losing rant.... but, damn!, those are the worst type of losses.

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     That was one of them.  And then the Angels reliever has 2 strikes and 2 outs in the 9th with the tying run at plate (because he walked the leadoff man) and gives up a meatball down the middle after he had already thrown 3 balls to the guy.  So much for trying to handicap... felt I was on the right side for both games and then have it stolen in the 9th.  I know it's a losing rant.... but, damn!, those are the worst type of losses.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 12:52 AM ET #7

     

    @SOTA30

     Facts cost me 550$ lol all goid tho

    Good luck to all as always!
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     Facts cost me 550$ lol all goid tho

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 1:06 AM ET #8

    I was on the Rockies live I got lucky for sure 

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    I was on the Rockies live I got lucky for sure 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 1:22 AM ET #9

    I think the Cards implosion was worse because it's 4-2, then 1 out, the solo homer makes it 4-3, then 2 outs, then single, then stolen base and challenge but upheld, then double to tie, then pinch hitter, then double to walk it off.  All those events negative was like slow torture an_bomb

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    I think the Cards implosion was worse because it's 4-2, then 1 out, the solo homer makes it 4-3, then 2 outs, then single, then stolen base and challenge but upheld, then double to tie, then pinch hitter, then double to walk it off.  All those events negative was like slow torture an_bomb

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 1:32 AM ET #10

    MLB is downright brutal. I have had so many bad beats from bullpens this season it’s not even funny.  Then when I have a team that is down a few runs .. they can’t even get a baserunner. I find it almost impossible to believe that anyone can make a profit betting MLB.  Next summer I   think I’m going to cancel my account so I’m not even tempted to bet this crap.  Hopefully football season is kinder to bankroll. 

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    MLB is downright brutal. I have had so many bad beats from bullpens this season it’s not even funny.  Then when I have a team that is down a few runs .. they can’t even get a baserunner. I find it almost impossible to believe that anyone can make a profit betting MLB.  Next summer I   think I’m going to cancel my account so I’m not even tempted to bet this crap.  Hopefully football season is kinder to bankroll. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 1:47 AM ET #11

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     You are right.  The Cardinals 9th inning implosion was brutal.  And it occurred against the Cubs to make it even more painful.

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     You are right.  The Cardinals 9th inning implosion was brutal.  And it occurred against the Cubs to make it even more painful.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 8:24 AM ET #12

    @JohnnyZ1976

     Gotta get it back today...

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     Gotta get it back today...

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 9:28 AM ET #13

    Bet 1st 5 innings only. Pretty much removes the bullpen out of the equation

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    Bet 1st 5 innings only. Pretty much removes the bullpen out of the equation

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 10:11 AM ET #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicVega91:

    Bet 1st 5 innings only. Pretty much removes the bullpen out of the equation

    This is becoming more and more crucial.  an_light

    Two issues:  

    One, a longer period gives the 'better' team time to win out over 9 innings -- in case a 'worse' team somehow jumps out to a lead.

    Two, the new plan to only let starting pitchers go to 5-6 innings or a low pitch count is bad.  No data shows it prevents injuries.  The other issue is the more a team brings a guy out of the bullpen, the more likely they will find a pitcher the other team will hit or will walk guys right away.  When you use 5-6-7 pitchers a game it is very dicey.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicVega91:

    Bet 1st 5 innings only. Pretty much removes the bullpen out of the equation

    This is becoming more and more crucial.  an_light

    Two issues:  

    One, a longer period gives the 'better' team time to win out over 9 innings -- in case a 'worse' team somehow jumps out to a lead.

    Two, the new plan to only let starting pitchers go to 5-6 innings or a low pitch count is bad.  No data shows it prevents injuries.  The other issue is the more a team brings a guy out of the bullpen, the more likely they will find a pitcher the other team will hit or will walk guys right away.  When you use 5-6-7 pitchers a game it is very dicey.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 10:17 AM ET #15

    $ management is key to betting MLB lol never go big. Small % of BR

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    $ management is key to betting MLB lol never go big. Small % of BR

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 10:19 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by buttas:

    $ management is key to betting MLB lol never go big. Small % of BR

    Bingo! 

    Bet with your wallet,not your heart
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttas:

    $ management is key to betting MLB lol never go big. Small % of BR

    Bingo! 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 10:20 AM ET #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttas:

    $ management is key to betting MLB lol never go big. Small % of BR

    This does not have anything to do with what he is complaining about.  

    That is, of course, a good rule in betting any sports.

    He is simply saying he is disgusted the way he lost.  He did not complain about how much of his BR he lost.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttas:

    $ management is key to betting MLB lol never go big. Small % of BR

    This does not have anything to do with what he is complaining about.  

    That is, of course, a good rule in betting any sports.

    He is simply saying he is disgusted the way he lost.  He did not complain about how much of his BR he lost.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 10:23 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @buttas   Quote Originally Posted by buttas: $ management is key to betting MLB lol never go big. Small % of BR This does not have anything to do with what he is complaining about.   That is, of course, a good rule in betting any sports. He is simply saying he is disgusted the way he lost.  He did not complain about how much of his BR he lost.

    I know...

    What he is bitching about happens every day in MLB... among other things. If you bet small $ relative to ur BR u don't feel the need to bitch cause the loss is nothing... Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @buttas   Quote Originally Posted by buttas: $ management is key to betting MLB lol never go big. Small % of BR This does not have anything to do with what he is complaining about.   That is, of course, a good rule in betting any sports. He is simply saying he is disgusted the way he lost.  He did not complain about how much of his BR he lost.

    I know...

    What he is bitching about happens every day in MLB... among other things. If you bet small $ relative to ur BR u don't feel the need to bitch cause the loss is nothing... Just saying.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 10:37 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by buttas:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @buttas   Quote Originally Posted by buttas: $ management is key to betting MLB lol never go big. Small % of BR This does not have anything to do with what he is complaining about.   That is, of course, a good rule in betting any sports. He is simply saying he is disgusted the way he lost.  He did not complain about how much of his BR he lost. I know... What he is bitching about happens every day in MLB... among other things. If you bet small $ relative to ur BR u don't feel the need to bitch cause the loss is nothing... Just saying.

    Gotcha.  I understand.

    I am saying if you lose even $1 that way -- it is still a ridiculous way to lose.

    Yes, you manage BR to account for this nonsense -- but, the bottom line is that it is still nonsense the way MLB has started doing this far more often than before.

    But, my point, is EVEN if you do not wager on it -- it is still frustrating that the managers have started doing this. 

    Even if you are not a bettor and just a fan, it is a bad look.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttas:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @buttas   Quote Originally Posted by buttas: $ management is key to betting MLB lol never go big. Small % of BR This does not have anything to do with what he is complaining about.   That is, of course, a good rule in betting any sports. He is simply saying he is disgusted the way he lost.  He did not complain about how much of his BR he lost. I know... What he is bitching about happens every day in MLB... among other things. If you bet small $ relative to ur BR u don't feel the need to bitch cause the loss is nothing... Just saying.

    Gotcha.  I understand.

    I am saying if you lose even $1 that way -- it is still a ridiculous way to lose.

    Yes, you manage BR to account for this nonsense -- but, the bottom line is that it is still nonsense the way MLB has started doing this far more often than before.

    But, my point, is EVEN if you do not wager on it -- it is still frustrating that the managers have started doing this. 

    Even if you are not a bettor and just a fan, it is a bad look.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 11:44 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @VicVega91   Quote Originally Posted by VicVega91: Bet 1st 5 innings only. Pretty much removes the bullpen out of the equation This is becoming more and more crucial.   Two issues:   One, a longer period gives the 'better' team time to win out over 9 innings -- in case a 'worse' team somehow jumps out to a lead. Two, the new plan to only let starting pitchers go to 5-6 innings or a low pitch count is bad.  No data shows it prevents injuries.  The other issue is the more a team brings a guy out of the bullpen, the more likely they will find a pitcher the other team will hit or will walk guys right away.  When you use 5-6-7 pitchers a game it is very dicey.

    an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @VicVega91   Quote Originally Posted by VicVega91: Bet 1st 5 innings only. Pretty much removes the bullpen out of the equation This is becoming more and more crucial.   Two issues:   One, a longer period gives the 'better' team time to win out over 9 innings -- in case a 'worse' team somehow jumps out to a lead. Two, the new plan to only let starting pitchers go to 5-6 innings or a low pitch count is bad.  No data shows it prevents injuries.  The other issue is the more a team brings a guy out of the bullpen, the more likely they will find a pitcher the other team will hit or will walk guys right away.  When you use 5-6-7 pitchers a game it is very dicey.

    an_light

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2024 - 8:57 PM ET #21

    The D-Backs’ A.J. Puk is a despised big ginger goblin. 

    Nice pitching change, Torey Lovullo. I look forward to your postgame press conference.

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    The D-Backs’ A.J. Puk is a despised big ginger goblin. 

    Nice pitching change, Torey Lovullo. I look forward to your postgame press conference.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2024 - 1:36 AM ET #22

    @MrBator

      The Puke trade is actually worse than most realize.  They gave up Deyvison De Los Santos, who is arguably having the best year of any player (hitter) in the minor leagues this season.  Miami got away with grand theft, the Dbags deserve every negative thing they get out out of that trade.

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    @MrBator

      The Puke trade is actually worse than most realize.  They gave up Deyvison De Los Santos, who is arguably having the best year of any player (hitter) in the minor leagues this season.  Miami got away with grand theft, the Dbags deserve every negative thing they get out out of that trade.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2024 - 1:43 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman67:

    the Dbags deserve every negative thing they get out out of that trade.

     

    I applaud and thank the D-Backs for demonstrating resilience in successfully overcoming the A.J. Puk experience. 

     

    an_clap

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman67:

    the Dbags deserve every negative thing they get out out of that trade.

     

    I applaud and thank the D-Backs for demonstrating resilience in successfully overcoming the A.J. Puk experience. 

     

    an_clap

     
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    I want to apologize to A.J. Puk. He entered today’s game in Pittsburgh in the bottom of the 9th after Ryan Thompson had dug a nice hole for himself. Puk took over with runners at the corners and calmly recorded the final two outs to preserve a one-run comeback win for the D-Backs. I regret my insensitive comments posted on Friday night. I will try to do better but I probably won’t. 

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    I want to apologize to A.J. Puk. He entered today’s game in Pittsburgh in the bottom of the 9th after Ryan Thompson had dug a nice hole for himself. Puk took over with runners at the corners and calmly recorded the final two outs to preserve a one-run comeback win for the D-Backs. I regret my insensitive comments posted on Friday night. I will try to do better but I probably won’t. 

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2024 - 5:32 AM ET #25

    I had a thread a few years back called "all bullpen pitchers die". It was kind of epic at the time.

    I applaud this thread an_clap

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    I had a thread a few years back called "all bullpen pitchers die". It was kind of epic at the time.

    I applaud this thread an_clap

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