I read the article and it does provide a new perspective for me. I had also watched the video previously and it seems that a lot of the other doctors with her support the treatment. I don't think the 350 treated patients being released from the hospital is fake news. Thus, I'm not going to dismiss so quickly. I have hope for the "cure". I'm not counting deaths and assessing blame. I'm not celebrating the potential collapse of our economy. I prefer to have hope that a vaccine will be discovered.
I would personally want to see her data. It's not impossible it treated these individuals but to tout it for the masses is irresponsible to the infinity degree. If you want people to sign waivers before taking it by all means I guess, it's their lives.
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Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:
I read the article and it does provide a new perspective for me. I had also watched the video previously and it seems that a lot of the other doctors with her support the treatment. I don't think the 350 treated patients being released from the hospital is fake news. Thus, I'm not going to dismiss so quickly. I have hope for the "cure". I'm not counting deaths and assessing blame. I'm not celebrating the potential collapse of our economy. I prefer to have hope that a vaccine will be discovered.
I would personally want to see her data. It's not impossible it treated these individuals but to tout it for the masses is irresponsible to the infinity degree. If you want people to sign waivers before taking it by all means I guess, it's their lives.
Hydroxychloroquine is not a drug that should be taken for Covid-19 treatment. You know why the company that made the drug is remaining silent? It is because any benefit someone gains from taking it would be considered off label effects. The drug was made for arthritis primarily... if you are taking a drug that was designed to treat one thing you cannot say it can be used to treat another ailment. That is, unless your initial NDA stated as such. Before you guys ask who the hell is this guy, I'm an individual who has worked in big pharma a long time. I am the guy that is a part of the process of making drugs like these. Wait for something designed to treat covid-19 and it's mutations accordingly.
Kag. It's good to see someone in here that speaks from a rational mind. Personally, I never defended the drug nor dismissed it. If 350 people were treated with success, that's great news. I don't care what drug works or whom gets credit, only that progress is made. The problem with some of the cartoon characters on this site is that they blindly oppose Trump on all issues. If it was Coke vs. Pepsi they would still oppose Trump as if he was the devil himself. Yes, Fubah and Kelly. I'm calling you losers out again for being guilty as charged. I'm off to the golf course again...will check in tonight on what the losers had to say.
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Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:
Hydroxychloroquine is not a drug that should be taken for Covid-19 treatment. You know why the company that made the drug is remaining silent? It is because any benefit someone gains from taking it would be considered off label effects. The drug was made for arthritis primarily... if you are taking a drug that was designed to treat one thing you cannot say it can be used to treat another ailment. That is, unless your initial NDA stated as such. Before you guys ask who the hell is this guy, I'm an individual who has worked in big pharma a long time. I am the guy that is a part of the process of making drugs like these. Wait for something designed to treat covid-19 and it's mutations accordingly.
Kag. It's good to see someone in here that speaks from a rational mind. Personally, I never defended the drug nor dismissed it. If 350 people were treated with success, that's great news. I don't care what drug works or whom gets credit, only that progress is made. The problem with some of the cartoon characters on this site is that they blindly oppose Trump on all issues. If it was Coke vs. Pepsi they would still oppose Trump as if he was the devil himself. Yes, Fubah and Kelly. I'm calling you losers out again for being guilty as charged. I'm off to the golf course again...will check in tonight on what the losers had to say.
Hydroxychloroquine is not a drug that should be taken for Covid-19 treatment. You know why the company that made the drug is remaining silent? It is because any benefit someone gains from taking it would be considered off label effects. The drug was made for arthritis primarily... if you are taking a drug that was designed to treat one thing you cannot say it can be used to treat another ailment. That is, unless your initial NDA stated as such. Before you guys ask who the hell is this guy, I'm an individual who has worked in big pharma a long time. I am the guy that is a part of the process of making drugs like these. Wait for something designed to treat covid-19 and it's mutations accordingly.
Thanks for sharing your insight and experience. Some people here believe anything the President says about an unproven medication not initially designed to treat covid-19, which is a scary. A lot of missing data from the rare studies and quack doctors, who claim it is effective with no supporting evidence whatsoever. Thanks again.
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Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:
Hydroxychloroquine is not a drug that should be taken for Covid-19 treatment. You know why the company that made the drug is remaining silent? It is because any benefit someone gains from taking it would be considered off label effects. The drug was made for arthritis primarily... if you are taking a drug that was designed to treat one thing you cannot say it can be used to treat another ailment. That is, unless your initial NDA stated as such. Before you guys ask who the hell is this guy, I'm an individual who has worked in big pharma a long time. I am the guy that is a part of the process of making drugs like these. Wait for something designed to treat covid-19 and it's mutations accordingly.
Thanks for sharing your insight and experience. Some people here believe anything the President says about an unproven medication not initially designed to treat covid-19, which is a scary. A lot of missing data from the rare studies and quack doctors, who claim it is effective with no supporting evidence whatsoever. Thanks again.
Source? So Ohio Board of Pharmacy withdrew their ban a day after putting it in place. Oh so Ohio is playing politics? Big surprise coming from a Republican Governor. Too funny. He must have got the call to hold off from Fat Donnie. What do you think of the other two articles? Here are some more. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/508782-new-study-finds-hydroxychloroquine-ineffective-at-treating-covid-19 https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/coronavirus/virus-updates-new-studies-find-heart-damage-in-recovered-patients/2374337/ It's not effective bro. Time to move on to another drug. For every 9 articles and studies, which show it is not an effective treatment and does not work, you can find 1 that claims some type of progress. By and large, the vast majority of doctors, and health specialists claim it is not an effective treatment to prevent and reduce symptoms of covid-19.
I don't have time now but I'll check out the links you posted and get back to you. Thanks for taking the time to post the links!
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Source? So Ohio Board of Pharmacy withdrew their ban a day after putting it in place. Oh so Ohio is playing politics? Big surprise coming from a Republican Governor. Too funny. He must have got the call to hold off from Fat Donnie. What do you think of the other two articles? Here are some more. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/508782-new-study-finds-hydroxychloroquine-ineffective-at-treating-covid-19 https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/coronavirus/virus-updates-new-studies-find-heart-damage-in-recovered-patients/2374337/ It's not effective bro. Time to move on to another drug. For every 9 articles and studies, which show it is not an effective treatment and does not work, you can find 1 that claims some type of progress. By and large, the vast majority of doctors, and health specialists claim it is not an effective treatment to prevent and reduce symptoms of covid-19.
I don't have time now but I'll check out the links you posted and get back to you. Thanks for taking the time to post the links!
Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Hydroxychloroquine is not a drug that should be taken for Covid-19 treatment. You know why the company that made the drug is remaining silent? It is because any benefit someone gains from taking it would be considered off label effects. The drug was made for arthritis primarily... if you are taking a drug that was designed to treat one thing you cannot say it can be used to treat another ailment. That is, unless your initial NDA stated as such. Before you guys ask who the hell is this guy, I'm an individual who has worked in big pharma a long time. I am the guy that is a part of the process of making drugs like these. Wait for something designed to treat covid-19 and it's mutations accordingly. Kag. It's good to see someone in here that speaks from a rational mind. Personally, I never defended the drug nor dismissed it. If 350 people were treated with success, that's great news. I don't care what drug works or whom gets credit, only that progress is made. The problem with some of the cartoon characters on this site is that they blindly oppose Trump on all issues. If it was Coke vs. Pepsi they would still oppose Trump as if he was the devil himself. Yes, Fubah and Kelly. I'm calling you losers out again for being guilty as charged. I'm off to the golf course again...will check in tonight on what the losers had to say.
I agree finding various drugs with off label treatment is good. That being said, humans beings are not all designed the same way. That would make a lot of things easier if they were but we all have various reactions and responses to drugs/foods/cosmetics that are introduced to our bodies. There is a reason is takes drugs a longgggggggg time to hit market. There is a ton of testing done prior to a drug even sniffing a human body. Once it gets to that point there are a ton of testing done before it sniffs market. This is because you need to ascertain what the long term effects of taking a drug will do to the human body. You could take hydroxychloroquine and it could relieve your symptoms but it could also lower your life expectancy in the future. That's why we do the testing to make sure things are safe and won't trade off your future for temporary relief now.
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Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:
Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Hydroxychloroquine is not a drug that should be taken for Covid-19 treatment. You know why the company that made the drug is remaining silent? It is because any benefit someone gains from taking it would be considered off label effects. The drug was made for arthritis primarily... if you are taking a drug that was designed to treat one thing you cannot say it can be used to treat another ailment. That is, unless your initial NDA stated as such. Before you guys ask who the hell is this guy, I'm an individual who has worked in big pharma a long time. I am the guy that is a part of the process of making drugs like these. Wait for something designed to treat covid-19 and it's mutations accordingly. Kag. It's good to see someone in here that speaks from a rational mind. Personally, I never defended the drug nor dismissed it. If 350 people were treated with success, that's great news. I don't care what drug works or whom gets credit, only that progress is made. The problem with some of the cartoon characters on this site is that they blindly oppose Trump on all issues. If it was Coke vs. Pepsi they would still oppose Trump as if he was the devil himself. Yes, Fubah and Kelly. I'm calling you losers out again for being guilty as charged. I'm off to the golf course again...will check in tonight on what the losers had to say.
I agree finding various drugs with off label treatment is good. That being said, humans beings are not all designed the same way. That would make a lot of things easier if they were but we all have various reactions and responses to drugs/foods/cosmetics that are introduced to our bodies. There is a reason is takes drugs a longgggggggg time to hit market. There is a ton of testing done prior to a drug even sniffing a human body. Once it gets to that point there are a ton of testing done before it sniffs market. This is because you need to ascertain what the long term effects of taking a drug will do to the human body. You could take hydroxychloroquine and it could relieve your symptoms but it could also lower your life expectancy in the future. That's why we do the testing to make sure things are safe and won't trade off your future for temporary relief now.
McConnell signal to Republican Senate candidates: "Distance from Trump if necessary"
By Michael Warren and Jamie Gangel, CNN Updated 5:29 PM ET, Fri July 31, 2020
(CNN) Sen. majority leader Mitch "the grim reaper" McConnell is allowing Republican Senate candidates to do whatever it takes to salvage their campaigns ahead of what Republicans increasingly fear could be a devastating election for their party.
In recent weeks, the Senate majority leader has become so concerned over Republicans losing control of the Senate that he has signaled to vulnerable GOP senators in tough races that they could distance themselves from the President if they feel it is necessary, according to multiple senior Republicans including a source close to McConnell.
That could mean breaking with Trump on the administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic and the continued efforts by the President to paint an optimistic picture despite rising cases and deaths across parts of the country, especially in many Republican states in the South and Midwest.
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McConnell signal to Republican Senate candidates: "Distance from Trump if necessary"
By Michael Warren and Jamie Gangel, CNN Updated 5:29 PM ET, Fri July 31, 2020
(CNN) Sen. majority leader Mitch "the grim reaper" McConnell is allowing Republican Senate candidates to do whatever it takes to salvage their campaigns ahead of what Republicans increasingly fear could be a devastating election for their party.
In recent weeks, the Senate majority leader has become so concerned over Republicans losing control of the Senate that he has signaled to vulnerable GOP senators in tough races that they could distance themselves from the President if they feel it is necessary, according to multiple senior Republicans including a source close to McConnell.
That could mean breaking with Trump on the administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic and the continued efforts by the President to paint an optimistic picture despite rising cases and deaths across parts of the country, especially in many Republican states in the South and Midwest.
Birx warns US is 'in a new phase' of coronavirus pandemic with more widespread cases
CNN, Sun August 2, 2020
(CNN) Dr. Deborah Birx on Sunday said the US is in a new phase in its fight against the coronavirus pandemic, saying that the deadly virus is more widespread than when it first took hold in the US earlier this year.
"What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread. It's into the rural as equal urban areas"
"This epidemic right now is different and it's more widespread and it's both rural and urban," she added.
A new ensemble forecast, published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, projects more than 173,000 American deaths by August 22, and former US Food and Drug Administrator Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned on CNBC last month that the coronavirus death toll could double to 300,000 deaths by the end of the year, if the country doesn't change its trajectory.
Current US death toll from trump-enabled virus is 154,600(per Johns Hopkins)
Birx warns US is 'in a new phase' of coronavirus pandemic with more widespread cases
CNN, Sun August 2, 2020
(CNN) Dr. Deborah Birx on Sunday said the US is in a new phase in its fight against the coronavirus pandemic, saying that the deadly virus is more widespread than when it first took hold in the US earlier this year.
"What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread. It's into the rural as equal urban areas"
"This epidemic right now is different and it's more widespread and it's both rural and urban," she added.
A new ensemble forecast, published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, projects more than 173,000 American deaths by August 22, and former US Food and Drug Administrator Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned on CNBC last month that the coronavirus death toll could double to 300,000 deaths by the end of the year, if the country doesn't change its trajectory.
Current US death toll from trump-enabled virus is 154,600(per Johns Hopkins)
Where is the evidence from randomized clinical trails that taking hydroxychloroquine doesn't improve patients outcomes, who are suffering from COVID-19, whether symptoms are mild, moderate, or severe?
Hydroxychloroquine is NOT recommended as a Covid-19 treatment, coronavirus testing czar says
Hydroxychloroquine is not recommended as a treatment for Covid-19, Adm. Brett Giroir, a member of trump's White House coronavirus task force said on NBC on Sunday.
“ At this point in time, there’s been five randomized controlled, placebo controlled trials, that do not show any benefit to hydroxychloroquine,” Giroir said. “ So, at this point in time, we don’t recommend that as a treatment.”
“And the evidence just doesn’t show that hydroxychloroquine is effective right now.”
“Right now, hydroxychloroquine, I can’t recommend that."
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Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:
Where is the evidence from randomized clinical trails that taking hydroxychloroquine doesn't improve patients outcomes, who are suffering from COVID-19, whether symptoms are mild, moderate, or severe?
Hydroxychloroquine is NOT recommended as a Covid-19 treatment, coronavirus testing czar says
Hydroxychloroquine is not recommended as a treatment for Covid-19, Adm. Brett Giroir, a member of trump's White House coronavirus task force said on NBC on Sunday.
“ At this point in time, there’s been five randomized controlled, placebo controlled trials, that do not show any benefit to hydroxychloroquine,” Giroir said. “ So, at this point in time, we don’t recommend that as a treatment.”
“And the evidence just doesn’t show that hydroxychloroquine is effective right now.”
“Right now, hydroxychloroquine, I can’t recommend that."
Birx warns US is 'in a new phase' of coronavirus pandemic with more widespread cases CNN, Sun August 2, 2020 (CNN) Dr. Deborah Birx on Sunday said the US is in a new phase in its fight against the coronavirus pandemic, saying that the deadly virus is more widespread than when it first took hold in the US earlier this year. "What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread. It's into the rural as equal urban areas" "This epidemic right now is different and it's more widespread and it's both rural and urban," she added. A new ensemble forecast, published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, projects more than 173,000 American deaths by August 22, and former US Food and Drug Administrator Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned on CNBC last month that the coronavirus death toll could double to 300,000 deaths by the end of the year, if the country doesn't change its trajectory. Current US death toll from trump-enabled virus is 154,600 (per Johns Hopkins) Source: https://tinyurl.com/yx8nv32d
today trump called dr.birx PATHETIC
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Birx warns US is 'in a new phase' of coronavirus pandemic with more widespread cases CNN, Sun August 2, 2020 (CNN) Dr. Deborah Birx on Sunday said the US is in a new phase in its fight against the coronavirus pandemic, saying that the deadly virus is more widespread than when it first took hold in the US earlier this year. "What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread. It's into the rural as equal urban areas" "This epidemic right now is different and it's more widespread and it's both rural and urban," she added. A new ensemble forecast, published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, projects more than 173,000 American deaths by August 22, and former US Food and Drug Administrator Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned on CNBC last month that the coronavirus death toll could double to 300,000 deaths by the end of the year, if the country doesn't change its trajectory. Current US death toll from trump-enabled virus is 154,600 (per Johns Hopkins) Source: https://tinyurl.com/yx8nv32d
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Birx warns US is 'in a new phase' of coronavirus pandemic with more widespread cases CNN, Sun August 2, 2020 (CNN) Dr. Deborah Birx on Sunday said the US is in a new phase in its fight against the coronavirus pandemic, saying that the deadly virus is more widespread than when it first took hold in the US earlier this year. "What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread. It's into the rural as equal urban areas" "This epidemic right now is different and it's more widespread and it's both rural and urban," she added. A new ensemble forecast, published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, projects more than 173,000 American deaths by August 22, and former US Food and Drug Administrator Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned on CNBC last month that the coronavirus death toll could double to 300,000 deaths by the end of the year, if the country doesn't change its trajectory. Current US death toll from trump-enabled virus is 154,600 (per Johns Hopkins) Source: https://tinyurl.com/yx8nv32dtoday trump called dr.birx PATHETIC
Trump criticizes Birx for the first time after she issues coronavirus warnings
(CNN)President Donald Trump criticized Dr. Deborah Birx in a Monday tweet after she warned the pandemic is "extraordinarily widespread" in the US.
While Trump and other top White House officials have publicly attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci, the tweet marked the first time Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, publicly drew Trump's ire. The dust-up comes as the country continues to be ravaged by coronavirus, with more than 155,000 US citizens dead and more than 4.6 million cases.
Trump has consistently lied and misled mostly in attempts to downplay concerns about the virus as he presses for schools and businesses to reopen.
"So Crazy Nancy Pelosi said horrible things about Dr. Deborah Birx, going after her because she was too positive on the very good job we are doing on combatting the China Virus, including Vaccines & Therapeutics. In order to counter Nancy, Deborah took the bait & hit us. Pathetic!" Trump wrote.
"Well, I think that we're doing very well and we have done as well as any nation," he told reporters.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Birx warns US is 'in a new phase' of coronavirus pandemic with more widespread cases CNN, Sun August 2, 2020 (CNN) Dr. Deborah Birx on Sunday said the US is in a new phase in its fight against the coronavirus pandemic, saying that the deadly virus is more widespread than when it first took hold in the US earlier this year. "What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread. It's into the rural as equal urban areas" "This epidemic right now is different and it's more widespread and it's both rural and urban," she added. A new ensemble forecast, published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, projects more than 173,000 American deaths by August 22, and former US Food and Drug Administrator Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned on CNBC last month that the coronavirus death toll could double to 300,000 deaths by the end of the year, if the country doesn't change its trajectory. Current US death toll from trump-enabled virus is 154,600 (per Johns Hopkins) Source: https://tinyurl.com/yx8nv32dtoday trump called dr.birx PATHETIC
Trump criticizes Birx for the first time after she issues coronavirus warnings
(CNN)President Donald Trump criticized Dr. Deborah Birx in a Monday tweet after she warned the pandemic is "extraordinarily widespread" in the US.
While Trump and other top White House officials have publicly attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci, the tweet marked the first time Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, publicly drew Trump's ire. The dust-up comes as the country continues to be ravaged by coronavirus, with more than 155,000 US citizens dead and more than 4.6 million cases.
Trump has consistently lied and misled mostly in attempts to downplay concerns about the virus as he presses for schools and businesses to reopen.
"So Crazy Nancy Pelosi said horrible things about Dr. Deborah Birx, going after her because she was too positive on the very good job we are doing on combatting the China Virus, including Vaccines & Therapeutics. In order to counter Nancy, Deborah took the bait & hit us. Pathetic!" Trump wrote.
"Well, I think that we're doing very well and we have done as well as any nation," he told reporters.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Birx warns US is 'in a new phase' of coronavirus pandemic with more widespread cases CNN, Sun August 2, 2020 (CNN) Dr. Deborah Birx on Sunday said the US is in a new phase in its fight against the coronavirus pandemic, saying that the deadly virus is more widespread than when it first took hold in the US earlier this year. "What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread. It's into the rural as equal urban areas" "This epidemic right now is different and it's more widespread and it's both rural and urban," she added. A new ensemble forecast, published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, projects more than 173,000 American deaths by August 22, and former US Food and Drug Administrator Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned on CNBC last month that the coronavirus death toll could double to 300,000 deaths by the end of the year, if the country doesn't change its trajectory. Current US death toll from trump-enabled virus is 154,600 (per Johns Hopkins) Source: https://tinyurl.com/yx8nv32dtoday trump called dr.birx PATHETIC Trump criticizes Birx for the first time after she issues coronavirus warnings (CNN)President Donald Trump criticized Dr. Deborah Birx in a Monday tweet after she warned the pandemic is "extraordinarily widespread" in the US.While Trump and other top White House officials have publicly attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci, the tweet marked the first time Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, publicly drew Trump's ire.The dust-up comes as the country continues to be ravaged by coronavirus, with more than 155,000 US citizens dead and more than 4.6 million cases. Trump has consistently lied and misled mostly in attempts to downplay concerns about the virus as he presses for schools and businesses to reopen."So Crazy Nancy Pelosi said horrible things about Dr. Deborah Birx, going after her because she was too positive on the very good job we are doing on combatting the China Virus, including Vaccines & Therapeutics. In order to counter Nancy, Deborah took the bait & hit us. Pathetic!" Trump wrote."Well, I think that we're doing very well and we have done as well as any nation," he told reporters.
has he denounced the admiral yet since he made it clear hydroxy is not effective? threes company
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Birx warns US is 'in a new phase' of coronavirus pandemic with more widespread cases CNN, Sun August 2, 2020 (CNN) Dr. Deborah Birx on Sunday said the US is in a new phase in its fight against the coronavirus pandemic, saying that the deadly virus is more widespread than when it first took hold in the US earlier this year. "What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread. It's into the rural as equal urban areas" "This epidemic right now is different and it's more widespread and it's both rural and urban," she added. A new ensemble forecast, published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, projects more than 173,000 American deaths by August 22, and former US Food and Drug Administrator Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned on CNBC last month that the coronavirus death toll could double to 300,000 deaths by the end of the year, if the country doesn't change its trajectory. Current US death toll from trump-enabled virus is 154,600 (per Johns Hopkins) Source: https://tinyurl.com/yx8nv32dtoday trump called dr.birx PATHETIC Trump criticizes Birx for the first time after she issues coronavirus warnings (CNN)President Donald Trump criticized Dr. Deborah Birx in a Monday tweet after she warned the pandemic is "extraordinarily widespread" in the US.While Trump and other top White House officials have publicly attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci, the tweet marked the first time Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, publicly drew Trump's ire.The dust-up comes as the country continues to be ravaged by coronavirus, with more than 155,000 US citizens dead and more than 4.6 million cases. Trump has consistently lied and misled mostly in attempts to downplay concerns about the virus as he presses for schools and businesses to reopen."So Crazy Nancy Pelosi said horrible things about Dr. Deborah Birx, going after her because she was too positive on the very good job we are doing on combatting the China Virus, including Vaccines & Therapeutics. In order to counter Nancy, Deborah took the bait & hit us. Pathetic!" Trump wrote."Well, I think that we're doing very well and we have done as well as any nation," he told reporters.
has he denounced the admiral yet since he made it clear hydroxy is not effective? threes company
Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: Where is the evidence from randomized clinical trails that taking hydroxychloroquine doesn't improve patients outcomes, who are suffering from COVID-19, whether symptoms are mild, moderate, or severe? Hydroxychloroquine is NOT recommended as a Covid-19 treatment, coronavirus testing czar says from CNN article: https://tinyurl.com/y2mx7s2j Hydroxychloroquine is not recommended as a treatment for Covid-19, Adm. Brett Giroir, a member of trump's White House coronavirus task force said on NBC on Sunday. “ At this point in time, there’s been five randomized controlled, placebo controlled trials, that do not show any benefit to hydroxychloroquine,” Giroir said. “ So, at this point in time, we don’t recommend that as a treatment.” “And the evidence just doesn’t show that hydroxychloroquine is effective right now.” “Right now, hydroxychloroquine, I can’t recommend that."
Inspite of this from another medical expert, trump was pushing hydroxychloroquine again today. Of course.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: Where is the evidence from randomized clinical trails that taking hydroxychloroquine doesn't improve patients outcomes, who are suffering from COVID-19, whether symptoms are mild, moderate, or severe? Hydroxychloroquine is NOT recommended as a Covid-19 treatment, coronavirus testing czar says from CNN article: https://tinyurl.com/y2mx7s2j Hydroxychloroquine is not recommended as a treatment for Covid-19, Adm. Brett Giroir, a member of trump's White House coronavirus task force said on NBC on Sunday. “ At this point in time, there’s been five randomized controlled, placebo controlled trials, that do not show any benefit to hydroxychloroquine,” Giroir said. “ So, at this point in time, we don’t recommend that as a treatment.” “And the evidence just doesn’t show that hydroxychloroquine is effective right now.” “Right now, hydroxychloroquine, I can’t recommend that."
Inspite of this from another medical expert, trump was pushing hydroxychloroquine again today. Of course.
On the first day of school in Canton, Georgia, a second grader tested positive, sending the teacher and 20 other classmates into a two-week quarantine, the Cherokee County School District told CNN.
Although health experts are still investigating how children contract and spread the virus, outbreaks could complicate an upsurge in a rare but paralyzing condition, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday.
On the first day of school in Canton, Georgia, a second grader tested positive, sending the teacher and 20 other classmates into a two-week quarantine, the Cherokee County School District told CNN.
Although health experts are still investigating how children contract and spread the virus, outbreaks could complicate an upsurge in a rare but paralyzing condition, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday.
On the first day of school in Canton, Georgia, a second grader tested positive, sending the teacher and 20 other classmates into a two-week quarantine, the Cherokee County School District told CNN.
Although health experts are still investigating how children contract and spread the virus, outbreaks could complicate an upsurge in a rare but paralyzing condition, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday.
Chicago public schools will start the school year all virtual
By Annie Grayer, CNN, Wed August 5, 2020
(CNN) Chicago Public Schools, the nation's third-largest school system, will start the coming school year with fully remote learning for all students due to the coronavirus pandemic, the district announced Wednesday. The decision could avoid a possible strike from the Chicago Teachers Union.
The district will implement remote learning through the first quarter, which ends November 9, and then will evaluate if it is safe to open in a hybrid learning model. Illinois has seen a consistent rise in daily coronavirus cases over the past two months. The state's seven-day average of new daily cases topped 1,500 this week as Covid-19 has spread widely throughout the country, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
On the first day of school in Canton, Georgia, a second grader tested positive, sending the teacher and 20 other classmates into a two-week quarantine, the Cherokee County School District told CNN.
Although health experts are still investigating how children contract and spread the virus, outbreaks could complicate an upsurge in a rare but paralyzing condition, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday.
Chicago public schools will start the school year all virtual
By Annie Grayer, CNN, Wed August 5, 2020
(CNN) Chicago Public Schools, the nation's third-largest school system, will start the coming school year with fully remote learning for all students due to the coronavirus pandemic, the district announced Wednesday. The decision could avoid a possible strike from the Chicago Teachers Union.
The district will implement remote learning through the first quarter, which ends November 9, and then will evaluate if it is safe to open in a hybrid learning model. Illinois has seen a consistent rise in daily coronavirus cases over the past two months. The state's seven-day average of new daily cases topped 1,500 this week as Covid-19 has spread widely throughout the country, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: On the first day of school in Canton, Georgia, a second grader tested positive, sending the teacher and 20 other classmates into a two-week quarantine, the Cherokee County School District told CNN. Although health experts are still investigating how children contract and spreadthe virus, outbreaks could complicate an upsurge in a rare but paralyzing condition,the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday. Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4jh8ge2 Chicago public schools will start the school year all virtual By Annie Grayer, CNN, Wed August 5, 2020 (CNN) Chicago Public Schools, the nation's third-largest school system, will start the coming school year with fully remote learning for all students due to the coronavirus pandemic, the district announced Wednesday.The decision could avoid a possible strike from the Chicago Teachers Union. The district will implement remote learning through the first quarter, which ends November 9, and then will evaluate if it is safe to open in a hybrid learning model.Illinois has seen a consistent rise in daily coronavirus cases over the past two months. The state's seven-day average of new daily cases topped 1,500 this week as Covid-19 has spread widely throughout the country, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. Source: https://tinyurl.com/y3hhk5g2
That is a great decision by Chicago,. That is certain to do decrease the murders, and for that I applaud them !!
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: On the first day of school in Canton, Georgia, a second grader tested positive, sending the teacher and 20 other classmates into a two-week quarantine, the Cherokee County School District told CNN. Although health experts are still investigating how children contract and spreadthe virus, outbreaks could complicate an upsurge in a rare but paralyzing condition,the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday. Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4jh8ge2 Chicago public schools will start the school year all virtual By Annie Grayer, CNN, Wed August 5, 2020 (CNN) Chicago Public Schools, the nation's third-largest school system, will start the coming school year with fully remote learning for all students due to the coronavirus pandemic, the district announced Wednesday.The decision could avoid a possible strike from the Chicago Teachers Union. The district will implement remote learning through the first quarter, which ends November 9, and then will evaluate if it is safe to open in a hybrid learning model.Illinois has seen a consistent rise in daily coronavirus cases over the past two months. The state's seven-day average of new daily cases topped 1,500 this week as Covid-19 has spread widely throughout the country, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. Source: https://tinyurl.com/y3hhk5g2
That is a great decision by Chicago,. That is certain to do decrease the murders, and for that I applaud them !!
Hydroxychloroquine is not a drug that should be taken for Covid-19 treatment.
You know why the company that made the drug is remaining silent? It is because any benefit someone gains from taking it would be considered off label effects. The drug was made for arthritis primarily... if you are taking a drug that was designed to treat one thing you cannot say it can be used to treat another ailment. That is, unless your initial NDA stated as such.
Before you guys ask who the hell is this guy, I'm an individual who has worked in big pharma a long time. I am the guy that is a part of the process of making drugs like these. Wait for something designed to treat covid-19 and it's mutations accordingly.
Good points!
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Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:
Hydroxychloroquine is not a drug that should be taken for Covid-19 treatment.
You know why the company that made the drug is remaining silent? It is because any benefit someone gains from taking it would be considered off label effects. The drug was made for arthritis primarily... if you are taking a drug that was designed to treat one thing you cannot say it can be used to treat another ailment. That is, unless your initial NDA stated as such.
Before you guys ask who the hell is this guy, I'm an individual who has worked in big pharma a long time. I am the guy that is a part of the process of making drugs like these. Wait for something designed to treat covid-19 and it's mutations accordingly.
Hydroxychloroquine is not recommended as a treatment for Covid-19, Adm. Brett Giroir, a member of trump's White House coronavirus task force said on NBC on Sunday.
“ At this point in time, there’s been five randomized controlled, placebo controlled trials, that do not show any benefit to hydroxychloroquine,” Giroir said.
“ So, at this point in time, we don’t recommend that as a treatment.”
“And the evidence just doesn’t show that hydroxychloroquine is effective right now.”
“Right now, hydroxychloroquine, I can’t recommend that."
Hydroxychloroquine is not recommended as a treatment for Covid-19, Adm. Brett Giroir, a member of trump's White House coronavirus task force said on NBC on Sunday.
“ At this point in time, there’s been five randomized controlled, placebo controlled trials, that do not show any benefit to hydroxychloroquine,” Giroir said.
“ So, at this point in time, we don’t recommend that as a treatment.”
“And the evidence just doesn’t show that hydroxychloroquine is effective right now.”
“Right now, hydroxychloroquine, I can’t recommend that."
Hydroxychloroquine is not recommended as a treatment for Covid-19, Adm. Brett Giroir, a member of trump's White House coronavirus task force said on NBC on Sunday.
“ At this point in time, there’s been five (5) randomized controlled, placebo controlled trials, that do not show any benefit to hydroxychloroquine,” Giroir said.
“ So, at this point in time, we don’t recommend that as a treatment.”
“And the evidence just doesn’t show that hydroxychloroquine is effective right now.”
“Right now, hydroxychloroquine, I can’t recommend that."
WASHINGTON - Twitter removed a video that was retweeted on President Donald Trump's account late Monday night sharing unproven claims that an anti-malaria drug is an effective treatment for the coronavirus. The platform also limited the account of the president’s son, Donald Trump Jr., after he shared one version of the video as a “must watch!!!”
Trump has repeatedly pushed unproven claims that an anti-malaria drug, hydroxychloroquine, is an effective treatment for COVID-19.
But there is no known cure for COVID-19, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization.
Numerous studies have shown that hydroxychloroquine is NOT an effective treatment for virus.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration also recently withdrew an order that allowed the drug's use as a emergency treatment for COVID-19.
Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5demvp2
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Hydroxychloroquine is NOT recommended as a Covid-19 treatment, trump's coronavirus testing czar says
Hydroxychloroquine is not recommended as a treatment for Covid-19, Adm. Brett Giroir, a member of trump's White House coronavirus task force said on NBC on Sunday.
“ At this point in time, there’s been five (5) randomized controlled, placebo controlled trials, that do not show any benefit to hydroxychloroquine,” Giroir said.
“ So, at this point in time, we don’t recommend that as a treatment.”
“And the evidence just doesn’t show that hydroxychloroquine is effective right now.”
“Right now, hydroxychloroquine, I can’t recommend that."
WASHINGTON - Twitter removed a video that was retweeted on President Donald Trump's account late Monday night sharing unproven claims that an anti-malaria drug is an effective treatment for the coronavirus. The platform also limited the account of the president’s son, Donald Trump Jr., after he shared one version of the video as a “must watch!!!”
Trump has repeatedly pushed unproven claims that an anti-malaria drug, hydroxychloroquine, is an effective treatment for COVID-19.
But there is no known cure for COVID-19, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization.
Numerous studies have shown that hydroxychloroquine is NOT an effective treatment for virus.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration also recently withdrew an order that allowed the drug's use as a emergency treatment for COVID-19.
There are now 53 studies that show positive results of hydroxychloroquine in COVID infections. There are 14 global studies that show neutral or negative results -- and 10 of them were of patients in very late stages of COVID-19, where no antiviral drug can be expected to have much effect. Of the remaining four studies, two come from the same University of Minnesota author. The other two are from the faulty Brazil paper, which should be retracted, and the fake Lancet paper, which was.
Millions of people are taking or have taken hydroxychloroquine in nations that have managed to get their national pandemic under some degree of control. Two recent, large, early-use clinical trials have been conducted by the Henry Ford Health System and at Mount Sinai showing a 51% and 47% lower mortality, respectively, in hospitalized patients given hydroxychloroquine. A recent study from Spain published on July 29, two days before Margaret Sullivan’s strafing of “fringe doctors,” shows a 66% reduction in COVID mortality in patients taking hydroxychloroquine. No serious side effects were reported in these studies and no epidemic of heartbeat abnormalities.
This is ground-shaking news. Why is it not being widely reported? Why is the American media trying to run the U.S. pandemic response with its own misinformation?
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There are now 53 studies that show positive results of hydroxychloroquine in COVID infections. There are 14 global studies that show neutral or negative results -- and 10 of them were of patients in very late stages of COVID-19, where no antiviral drug can be expected to have much effect. Of the remaining four studies, two come from the same University of Minnesota author. The other two are from the faulty Brazil paper, which should be retracted, and the fake Lancet paper, which was.
Millions of people are taking or have taken hydroxychloroquine in nations that have managed to get their national pandemic under some degree of control. Two recent, large, early-use clinical trials have been conducted by the Henry Ford Health System and at Mount Sinai showing a 51% and 47% lower mortality, respectively, in hospitalized patients given hydroxychloroquine. A recent study from Spain published on July 29, two days before Margaret Sullivan’s strafing of “fringe doctors,” shows a 66% reduction in COVID mortality in patients taking hydroxychloroquine. No serious side effects were reported in these studies and no epidemic of heartbeat abnormalities.
This is ground-shaking news. Why is it not being widely reported? Why is the American media trying to run the U.S. pandemic response with its own misinformation?
There are now 53 studies that show positive results of hydroxychloroquine in COVID infections.
Unfortunately they DO NOT meet the standard for qualified research in most cases, most commonly because they are NOTrandomized controlled, placebo controlled trials
Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:
Two recent, large, early-use clinical trials have been conducted by the Henry Ford Health System and at Mount Sinai showing a 51% and 47% lower mortality, respectively, in hospitalized patients given hydroxychloroquine.
Debunked already for same reason above.
Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:
Why is it not being widely reported?
Because the research is faulty.
Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:
Why is the American media trying to run the U.S. pandemic response with its own misinformation?
What alleged "misinformation?" Sub-standard/faulty research but by any other name is still sub-standard/faulty research. We can put no more trust in those results as we could in the AGGREGATE numbers from a political poll that includes 700 Democrats and only 400 Republicans in the total responses. BIAS, either deliberate or unintended via sloppy research protocols, is a common fault to MANY "so called" research studies. But it's not limited to only "bias"
That's WHY.
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Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:
There are now 53 studies that show positive results of hydroxychloroquine in COVID infections.
Unfortunately they DO NOT meet the standard for qualified research in most cases, most commonly because they are NOTrandomized controlled, placebo controlled trials
Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:
Two recent, large, early-use clinical trials have been conducted by the Henry Ford Health System and at Mount Sinai showing a 51% and 47% lower mortality, respectively, in hospitalized patients given hydroxychloroquine.
Debunked already for same reason above.
Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:
Why is it not being widely reported?
Because the research is faulty.
Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:
Why is the American media trying to run the U.S. pandemic response with its own misinformation?
What alleged "misinformation?" Sub-standard/faulty research but by any other name is still sub-standard/faulty research. We can put no more trust in those results as we could in the AGGREGATE numbers from a political poll that includes 700 Democrats and only 400 Republicans in the total responses. BIAS, either deliberate or unintended via sloppy research protocols, is a common fault to MANY "so called" research studies. But it's not limited to only "bias"
must agree . so far the few research studies that followed proper testing methods show no significant benefit from hydroxy . the others were flawed in some way and cant b used
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must agree . so far the few research studies that followed proper testing methods show no significant benefit from hydroxy . the others were flawed in some way and cant b used
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