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    Originalsix88
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:14 AM ET #151

    @P33PGame

     Good luck bro, I am done wasting time on this. Wish you the best on all of your future bets on "fixed sports". No disrespect intended, but we are
    clearly both wasting our time. Even if we disagree, I appreciate that you did not resort to personal insults, which happens far too often in this forum.
    Good luck with your bets.

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     Good luck bro, I am done wasting time on this. Wish you the best on all of your future bets on "fixed sports". No disrespect intended, but we are
    clearly both wasting our time. Even if we disagree, I appreciate that you did not resort to personal insults, which happens far too often in this forum.
    Good luck with your bets.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:14 AM ET #152

    Huge conspiracy to come up with a draw on the total tonight. The CIA the FBI the KGB and Starfleet were in on it. Go to Infowars for more info.

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    Huge conspiracy to come up with a draw on the total tonight. The CIA the FBI the KGB and Starfleet were in on it. Go to Infowars for more info.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:20 AM ET #153

    Quote Originally Posted by P33PGame:

    @Originalsix88 Dude who’s saying this shit started back in the 60s? I’ve already explained how starting in the late 80s through the 90s and most of the 00s none of this stuff even occurred to myself or anyone I knew. That’s just speaking from my own experience. But nobody complained about this stuff or even batted an eyelash. Absolutely backwards coaching “decisions” were not being made back then or at least not even 1% as often as they’re being made now.  Now over the past 10-15 years the amount of games that have been lost due to children playing Madden type of play calling and unbelievable reffing - WITH THE ADDED BENEFIT OF REPLAY WHICH WAS NOT AVAILABLE PRIOR TO AROUND 2000 - is eye opening. That’s what I’m saying.

     

    Quite the nonsense opinion you got there, eh? You sure nobody reacted similarly back then to today's soft marshmallows who need to find any excuse possible to blame for their pathetic life long losing streak during Tuesday morning envelope exchanges?

    Lovers are lovers, they all come from the same DNA lineage...regardless of decade or century...go back to YouTube and Google magnetic goal posts and make yourself useful to your kind

     

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    @Originalsix88 Dude who’s saying this shit started back in the 60s? I’ve already explained how starting in the late 80s through the 90s and most of the 00s none of this stuff even occurred to myself or anyone I knew. That’s just speaking from my own experience. But nobody complained about this stuff or even batted an eyelash. Absolutely backwards coaching “decisions” were not being made back then or at least not even 1% as often as they’re being made now.  Now over the past 10-15 years the amount of games that have been lost due to children playing Madden type of play calling and unbelievable reffing - WITH THE ADDED BENEFIT OF REPLAY WHICH WAS NOT AVAILABLE PRIOR TO AROUND 2000 - is eye opening. That’s what I’m saying.

     

    Quite the nonsense opinion you got there, eh? You sure nobody reacted similarly back then to today's soft marshmallows who need to find any excuse possible to blame for their pathetic life long losing streak during Tuesday morning envelope exchanges?

    Lovers are lovers, they all come from the same DNA lineage...regardless of decade or century...go back to YouTube and Google magnetic goal posts and make yourself useful to your kind

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:21 AM ET #154

    Like I said man. One of you, just one of you dolts explain the play calling in Super Bowl 51. Explain Matt Ryan - not a rookie QB - snapping the ball up 8 points with the clock running and 4 minutes and change left - with 15 seconds left on a running clock. 15 seconds with roughly 4 1/2 minutes left. An eternity at the end of a football game. 

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    Like I said man. One of you, just one of you dolts explain the play calling in Super Bowl 51. Explain Matt Ryan - not a rookie QB - snapping the ball up 8 points with the clock running and 4 minutes and change left - with 15 seconds left on a running clock. 15 seconds with roughly 4 1/2 minutes left. An eternity at the end of a football game. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:23 AM ET #155

    @P33PGame

    Wow, now you really do just sound crazy. Please stop while you are ahead.

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    Wow, now you really do just sound crazy. Please stop while you are ahead.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:24 AM ET #156

    @packersbackers

    I knew at least probably 200 people who watched football on a weekly basis in the 90s. Probably more. Not one person brought this up ever. There was never a reason to. Bill Parcells wasn’t calling Hail Marys on 3rd and inches up by 3 touchdowns late in the 3rd quarter of a playoff game. It wasn’t happening. It is now. Period. 

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    I knew at least probably 200 people who watched football on a weekly basis in the 90s. Probably more. Not one person brought this up ever. There was never a reason to. Bill Parcells wasn’t calling Hail Marys on 3rd and inches up by 3 touchdowns late in the 3rd quarter of a playoff game. It wasn’t happening. It is now. Period. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:25 AM ET #157

    Quote Originally Posted by Originalsix88:

    @chic-cardinals  What??? Have you even read the book? He talks about football culture and painkiller use in the 60's, not fixed games.
     

    Um.. you obviously can't read between the lines of the book. But I'm not referring that.

    This quote by Peter Gent.

    , and was attributed to Peter Gent, member of the Dallas Cowboys from 1964-68 and author of the great book (later a movie) North Dallas Forty:


    "For there should be a fundamental difference between professional and amateur sports that goes beyond the technical distinction of whether athletes make money from their sport. I learned the difference at the end of training camp my rookie year with the Dallas Cowboys. Management called a meeting to explain the responsibilities of being a professional football player. The man to give the best advice was the team's public relations director. He told us: 'Boys, this is show business.'

    "With these words in mind, nothing about professional sports, even Howard Cosell, is mystifying. Professional athletes are first and foremost show business, dealing in illusion and entertainment. The first responsibility of the players is to the audience, not themselves. If the audience wants winners, that is what is given. If it wants losers, that also it will get. The principle is the same for midget wrestling and the National Football League."

    #################

    Also, that quote along with what Howard Cosell had to say in his book years ago. Is in this link 

    In all seriousness. It quite interesting what he says about Nfl . It's a bit if a scroll but it reads quickly. 

    https://www.thefixisin.net/cosells-wisdom

     

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    @chic-cardinals  What??? Have you even read the book? He talks about football culture and painkiller use in the 60's, not fixed games.
     

    Um.. you obviously can't read between the lines of the book. But I'm not referring that.

    This quote by Peter Gent.

    , and was attributed to Peter Gent, member of the Dallas Cowboys from 1964-68 and author of the great book (later a movie) North Dallas Forty:


    "For there should be a fundamental difference between professional and amateur sports that goes beyond the technical distinction of whether athletes make money from their sport. I learned the difference at the end of training camp my rookie year with the Dallas Cowboys. Management called a meeting to explain the responsibilities of being a professional football player. The man to give the best advice was the team's public relations director. He told us: 'Boys, this is show business.'

    "With these words in mind, nothing about professional sports, even Howard Cosell, is mystifying. Professional athletes are first and foremost show business, dealing in illusion and entertainment. The first responsibility of the players is to the audience, not themselves. If the audience wants winners, that is what is given. If it wants losers, that also it will get. The principle is the same for midget wrestling and the National Football League."

    #################

    Also, that quote along with what Howard Cosell had to say in his book years ago. Is in this link 

    In all seriousness. It quite interesting what he says about Nfl . It's a bit if a scroll but it reads quickly. 

    https://www.thefixisin.net/cosells-wisdom

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:30 AM ET #158

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     So you think the game in 1990 is the same game being played today?

    A whole 200 people? Were they all talking to you regularly on Thursday nights? Did it start with a bar where everyone knew your name? Then moving on to a Monk's Cafe? Ending up at a cafe named Central Perk?

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     So you think the game in 1990 is the same game being played today?

    A whole 200 people? Were they all talking to you regularly on Thursday nights? Did it start with a bar where everyone knew your name? Then moving on to a Monk's Cafe? Ending up at a cafe named Central Perk?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:31 AM ET #159

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    Watch the clumsy 30 yard TD run by Mahomes against the Titans. Not one stiff arm, not a juke, not even a fukn hurdle, and yet 6 potential NFL defensive players are suddenly on a mushroom trip trying to tackle this fool. Stop it man. You just don’t get it. Professional soccer games have been already outed for match fixing but that just can’t happen in good ol’ Murica because we’re just some good honest hard workin’ folk out here!

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    Watch the clumsy 30 yard TD run by Mahomes against the Titans. Not one stiff arm, not a juke, not even a fukn hurdle, and yet 6 potential NFL defensive players are suddenly on a mushroom trip trying to tackle this fool. Stop it man. You just don’t get it. Professional soccer games have been already outed for match fixing but that just can’t happen in good ol’ Murica because we’re just some good honest hard workin’ folk out here!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:36 AM ET #160

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    I’m just giving a rough estimate dummy. I was in elementary and high school back then. Most everyone in the area was a huge sports fan. People would talk about the games every week. The topic of fixing matches was never brought up. No coach made any asinine decisions that would make you think so. Even a bad coaching decision had some sense of merit to it. There have been more than enough games today where that isn’t the case. 

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    I’m just giving a rough estimate dummy. I was in elementary and high school back then. Most everyone in the area was a huge sports fan. People would talk about the games every week. The topic of fixing matches was never brought up. No coach made any asinine decisions that would make you think so. Even a bad coaching decision had some sense of merit to it. There have been more than enough games today where that isn’t the case. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 12:41 AM ET #161

    Quote Originally Posted by P33PGame:

    @Raiderpug Except you’re mixing up mistakes like fumbles with premeditated decisions like passing the ball when your team is up by 16 points on 3rd and 1 - in shotgun formation with an empty back field no less - with roughly 8.5 minutes left in the 4th quarter of the fuckin Super Bowl. You should probably let that pug make your major life decisions for you, you’re not that bright.

    How! He got the call on the sideline, stayed in bounds and fumbled on purpose! The other players didn't get the memo to lay down! 

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    @Raiderpug Except you’re mixing up mistakes like fumbles with premeditated decisions like passing the ball when your team is up by 16 points on 3rd and 1 - in shotgun formation with an empty back field no less - with roughly 8.5 minutes left in the 4th quarter of the fuckin Super Bowl. You should probably let that pug make your major life decisions for you, you’re not that bright.

    How! He got the call on the sideline, stayed in bounds and fumbled on purpose! The other players didn't get the memo to lay down! 

     
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    @chic-cardinals  What??? Have you even read the book? He talks about football culture and painkiller use in the 60's, not fixed games.

     

     

    you  can't to  read between the lines of the book. But I'm not referring to  that.

    This quote by Peter Gent.

    , and was attributed to Peter Gent, member of the Dallas Cowboys from 1964-68 and author of the great book (later a movie) North Dallas Forty:


    "For there should be a fundamental difference between professional and amateur sports that goes beyond the technical distinction of whether athletes make money from their sport. I learned the difference at the end of training camp my rookie year with the Dallas Cowboys. Management called a meeting to explain the responsibilities of being a professional football player. The man to give the best advice was the team's public relations director. He told us: 'Boys, this is show business.'

    "With these words in mind, nothing about professional sports, even Howard Cosell, is mystifying. Professional athletes are first and foremost show business, dealing in illusion and entertainment. The first responsibility of the players is to the audience, not themselves. If the audience wants winners, that is what is given. If it wants losers, that also it will get. The principle is the same for midget wrestling and the National Football League."

    #################

    Also, that quote along with what Howard Cosell had to say in his book years ago. Is in this link 

    In all seriousness. It quite interesting what he says about Nfl . It's a bit if a scroll but it reads quickly. 

    https://www.thefixisin.net/cosells-wisdom

     

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    @chic-cardinals  What??? Have you even read the book? He talks about football culture and painkiller use in the 60's, not fixed games.

     

     

    you  can't to  read between the lines of the book. But I'm not referring to  that.

    This quote by Peter Gent.

    , and was attributed to Peter Gent, member of the Dallas Cowboys from 1964-68 and author of the great book (later a movie) North Dallas Forty:


    "For there should be a fundamental difference between professional and amateur sports that goes beyond the technical distinction of whether athletes make money from their sport. I learned the difference at the end of training camp my rookie year with the Dallas Cowboys. Management called a meeting to explain the responsibilities of being a professional football player. The man to give the best advice was the team's public relations director. He told us: 'Boys, this is show business.'

    "With these words in mind, nothing about professional sports, even Howard Cosell, is mystifying. Professional athletes are first and foremost show business, dealing in illusion and entertainment. The first responsibility of the players is to the audience, not themselves. If the audience wants winners, that is what is given. If it wants losers, that also it will get. The principle is the same for midget wrestling and the National Football League."

    #################

    Also, that quote along with what Howard Cosell had to say in his book years ago. Is in this link 

    In all seriousness. It quite interesting what he says about Nfl . It's a bit if a scroll but it reads quickly. 

    https://www.thefixisin.net/cosells-wisdom

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 1:23 AM ET #163

    These guys spreading misinformation and propaganda.  They say the same thing over and over so they end up believing their own stories.  

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    These guys spreading misinformation and propaganda.  They say the same thing over and over so they end up believing their own stories.  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2021 - 3:28 AM ET #164

    Quote Originally Posted by meknowno:

    These guys spreading misinformation and propaganda.  They say the same thing over and over so they end up believing their own stories.
     

    Lol at borrowing govt propaganda terms.

    It's only misinformation when it disagrees with almighty govt, right?

    I just gave 3 players and examples. So did the thread starter.

    Falcons SB and KC, Houston are beyond blatant examples.  

    You aren't challenging anything. Just throwing out contradictions. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by meknowno:

    These guys spreading misinformation and propaganda.  They say the same thing over and over so they end up believing their own stories.
     

    Lol at borrowing govt propaganda terms.

    It's only misinformation when it disagrees with almighty govt, right?

    I just gave 3 players and examples. So did the thread starter.

    Falcons SB and KC, Houston are beyond blatant examples.  

    You aren't challenging anything. Just throwing out contradictions. 

     

     
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     You still pissed? I told you I would assist you on getting your GED. I know I blew you off on the first 27 test you failed, but hey, on the 28th attempt I will help. You will get that promotion to fry cook! peace_5

    That be cool? "Bruh" 

    Vegas will lose millions and millions an_roll_laugh

    https://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/bigstripcasinotrends.pdf   

    Will it be apart of the 1% revenue they get from sports books? Yep they are worried about those "millions and millions" your low IQ ass thinks they depend on

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     You still pissed? I told you I would assist you on getting your GED. I know I blew you off on the first 27 test you failed, but hey, on the 28th attempt I will help. You will get that promotion to fry cook! peace_5

    That be cool? "Bruh" 

    Vegas will lose millions and millions an_roll_laugh

    https://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/bigstripcasinotrends.pdf   

    Will it be apart of the 1% revenue they get from sports books? Yep they are worried about those "millions and millions" your low IQ ass thinks they depend on

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrflip0921:

    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: Yet nobody involved in the NFL past or present has even made up a story that the NFL are fixed  #######*###############  Wrong, we've shown you 2 in the last couple weeks.  You can also add  Peter Gent. Ex cowboy, writer of north Dallas 40. How stupid r you bruh? You really think every player is involved and they "practice the game" during the week or something? Bahaha fucking super stupid idiot......1 or 2 calls can change the game 1 way or the other..... simple as that....Vegas absolutely can influence a game a few points here and there....  .EASILY...... and if you think they don't and they just taken a chance at losing millions and millions of dollars a day then you a super super duper tool
     

     

    Edit: at first your quote looked negative. I read again and it's not entirely.  So disregard any negative tone you may get from my quote..I'm just reiterating a point

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    I just showed you a quote where all the players are informed, "boys,this is show business. 

    The officials and the players are nfl employees.

    They do as told. No, I'm not saying every player knows everything. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrflip0921:

    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: Yet nobody involved in the NFL past or present has even made up a story that the NFL are fixed  #######*###############  Wrong, we've shown you 2 in the last couple weeks.  You can also add  Peter Gent. Ex cowboy, writer of north Dallas 40. How stupid r you bruh? You really think every player is involved and they "practice the game" during the week or something? Bahaha fucking super stupid idiot......1 or 2 calls can change the game 1 way or the other..... simple as that....Vegas absolutely can influence a game a few points here and there....  .EASILY...... and if you think they don't and they just taken a chance at losing millions and millions of dollars a day then you a super super duper tool
     

     

    Edit: at first your quote looked negative. I read again and it's not entirely.  So disregard any negative tone you may get from my quote..I'm just reiterating a point

    ###########################

    I just showed you a quote where all the players are informed, "boys,this is show business. 

    The officials and the players are nfl employees.

    They do as told. No, I'm not saying every player knows everything. 

     
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    @Carl

     

    https://www.actionnetwork.com/legal-online-sports-betting/us-sportsbooks-betting-news-record-handle-revenue-total-august-2020

     

     

     

     

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    https://www.actionnetwork.com/legal-online-sports-betting/us-sportsbooks-betting-news-record-handle-revenue-total-august-2020

     

     

     

     

     
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    Americans wagered $2.1 billion in August 2020, an all-time single-month record. Sportsbooks generated $119.4 million in revenue, trailing only the $138 million held in January 2020. The August 2020 revenue total was a 90.2 percent increase from August 2019.

     

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    Americans wagered $2.1 billion in August 2020, an all-time single-month record. Sportsbooks generated $119.4 million in revenue, trailing only the $138 million held in January 2020. The August 2020 revenue total was a 90.2 percent increase from August 2019.

     

     
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     Thanks buddy. But the point with these guys is use of "Vegas" and how "Vegas" controls and the millions that "Vegas" makes and depends on from sports books. Which is the link I pasted. Not all the other states that don't use casinos like "Vegas" does. 

    Appreciate the info. 

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     Thanks buddy. But the point with these guys is use of "Vegas" and how "Vegas" controls and the millions that "Vegas" makes and depends on from sports books. Which is the link I pasted. Not all the other states that don't use casinos like "Vegas" does. 

    Appreciate the info. 

     
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    New Jersey Sportsbook Revenue in Oct 2018 = 21,243,865

     

    New Jersey Sportsbook Revenue in Oct 2020 = 58,508,647

     



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    New Jersey Sportsbook Revenue in Oct 2018 = 21,243,865

     

    New Jersey Sportsbook Revenue in Oct 2020 = 58,508,647

     



     
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     Explain how your fixtard ideology inserts potential life altering neck and spinal injuries like last minute late in the game...is a player like him in on it and signed off on being part of the plot to sacrifice his body and future ability to walk? Or is he one of the innocent ones who isn't part of the script insiders in order to give the game an appearance of realism?

    If he's in on it, then that makes sense because them the game and the players have about 5 minutes of screen time to all act very religious and emotional to garden sympathetic feelings from the TV watchers...these rare 5 minutes within the script always attempt to re-humanize the players and the game to the fans who know they are criminals, bigots, racists, murders and wife beaters...this seems like the most plausible explanation...and i see these extreme injuries always happen on stand alone games in prime time.

    Please explain your knowledge about this to enlighten people from this planet, and why things are done differently on yours  peace_5

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     Explain how your fixtard ideology inserts potential life altering neck and spinal injuries like last minute late in the game...is a player like him in on it and signed off on being part of the plot to sacrifice his body and future ability to walk? Or is he one of the innocent ones who isn't part of the script insiders in order to give the game an appearance of realism?

    If he's in on it, then that makes sense because them the game and the players have about 5 minutes of screen time to all act very religious and emotional to garden sympathetic feelings from the TV watchers...these rare 5 minutes within the script always attempt to re-humanize the players and the game to the fans who know they are criminals, bigots, racists, murders and wife beaters...this seems like the most plausible explanation...and i see these extreme injuries always happen on stand alone games in prime time.

    Please explain your knowledge about this to enlighten people from this planet, and why things are done differently on yours  peace_5

     
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    WHY HAS THERE NEVER BEEN ANY PROOF OF FIXING AN NFL GAME??????????

     

     

    BECAUSE IT IS LEGALLY CONSIDERED AN ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS! MEANING THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DICTATE THE OUTCOME OF ANY GAME.

     

    SO WHY CANT THE NFL BE CHARGED WITH FIXING GAMES?

     

    BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO! 

     

     

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    WHY HAS THERE NEVER BEEN ANY PROOF OF FIXING AN NFL GAME??????????

     

     

    BECAUSE IT IS LEGALLY CONSIDERED AN ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS! MEANING THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DICTATE THE OUTCOME OF ANY GAME.

     

    SO WHY CANT THE NFL BE CHARGED WITH FIXING GAMES?

     

    BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO! 

     

     

     
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    Ladies and Gentlemen, Welcome to the Youtube Generation.

    Where videos created by random people, have strangers up in arms.

    It gives a voice to the voiceless

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, Welcome to the Youtube Generation.

    Where videos created by random people, have strangers up in arms.

    It gives a voice to the voiceless

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastsideBangers:

    Ladies and Gentlemen, Welcome to the Youtube Generation.

    Where videos created by random people, have strangers up in arms.

    It gives a voice to the STUPID

    Fixed it for ya peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastsideBangers:

    Ladies and Gentlemen, Welcome to the Youtube Generation.

    Where videos created by random people, have strangers up in arms.

    It gives a voice to the STUPID

    Fixed it for ya peace_5

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