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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 8:28 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @Getty3 Trevor Lawrence has never missed a game due to injury in his career. Zeus, as you put it is perfect.  If he cuts his hair, does he become Sampson?
    If he cuts his hair he really will favor Dale Dribble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @Getty3 Trevor Lawrence has never missed a game due to injury in his career. Zeus, as you put it is perfect.  If he cuts his hair, does he become Sampson?
    If he cuts his hair he really will favor Dale Dribble.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 8:30 PM ET #27

    If he cuts his hair there is no way Cher does the Mask sequel with him ...thats the shame of it all....Rocky Dennis deserves better peace_5

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    If he cuts his hair there is no way Cher does the Mask sequel with him ...thats the shame of it all....Rocky Dennis deserves better peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 8:33 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

     

    Cows at Dolphins -1.5  (51)

    Doesn't get any easier on our run D going from Cook Johnson and sometimes Allen to Mostert and Achane.  Buffalo exploited our lack of size at LB and to be honest, Quinn should have adjusted and put Micah back at LB once he saw what they were doing.  Last thing we needed was another pass rusher when they weren't passing.  Seems simple and yet no adjustments.  Dolphins D looking like a completely new unit the last 5 weeks but they will be tested by a pissed off Cows team coming off a very embarrassing offensive effort.  Depending on weather this feels like an over game. Something around 30-28.  Will wait to see what these lines do.  The 51 is already shaded on my book.

    The Boys not having Hankins has had a domino effect. Obviously Hankins is their best run defender, but without him the O-Lineman have no issue getting to the 2nd level and pounding the Cowboys undersized LBers. DQ's 3 Safety scheme is cute, but against a power running game they are just too small. I do not believe the Dolphins have the O-line to take advantage of this obvious flaw the way the Bills did.

    IMO this game comes down to your favorite QB vs the Throwin Samoan. Whichever QB plays better their team will win.

    Status of Tyreek is huge.

    BTW, Masi Smith will be out of football by the end of next year. He is slow off the ball, lacks power, and can't shed a block. He is Taco 2.0.

    Nice job on the writeups peace_5

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

     

    Cows at Dolphins -1.5  (51)

    Doesn't get any easier on our run D going from Cook Johnson and sometimes Allen to Mostert and Achane.  Buffalo exploited our lack of size at LB and to be honest, Quinn should have adjusted and put Micah back at LB once he saw what they were doing.  Last thing we needed was another pass rusher when they weren't passing.  Seems simple and yet no adjustments.  Dolphins D looking like a completely new unit the last 5 weeks but they will be tested by a pissed off Cows team coming off a very embarrassing offensive effort.  Depending on weather this feels like an over game. Something around 30-28.  Will wait to see what these lines do.  The 51 is already shaded on my book.

    The Boys not having Hankins has had a domino effect. Obviously Hankins is their best run defender, but without him the O-Lineman have no issue getting to the 2nd level and pounding the Cowboys undersized LBers. DQ's 3 Safety scheme is cute, but against a power running game they are just too small. I do not believe the Dolphins have the O-line to take advantage of this obvious flaw the way the Bills did.

    IMO this game comes down to your favorite QB vs the Throwin Samoan. Whichever QB plays better their team will win.

    Status of Tyreek is huge.

    BTW, Masi Smith will be out of football by the end of next year. He is slow off the ball, lacks power, and can't shed a block. He is Taco 2.0.

    Nice job on the writeups peace_5

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 8:37 PM ET #29

    More on Dallas @ Miami

    Both teams are 10-4. 

    Dallas expected W/L record is 10.7-3.3, Miami's is 10.1-3.9

    Dallas pt differential is +167, Miami's is +147. *Note here that 70-20 win over Denver.

    Record vs teams .500 or better:

    Dallas 3-3, Miami 0-3

    By DVOA:

    Overall: Dallas #6, Miami #4 *note here that dvoa puts more weight on offense. 

    Offense: Dallas #9, Miami #3

    Defense: Dallas #6, Miami #13

    Special Teams: Dallas #7, Miami #17

    SOS: Dallas #29, Miami #31

     

     

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    More on Dallas @ Miami

    Both teams are 10-4. 

    Dallas expected W/L record is 10.7-3.3, Miami's is 10.1-3.9

    Dallas pt differential is +167, Miami's is +147. *Note here that 70-20 win over Denver.

    Record vs teams .500 or better:

    Dallas 3-3, Miami 0-3

    By DVOA:

    Overall: Dallas #6, Miami #4 *note here that dvoa puts more weight on offense. 

    Offense: Dallas #9, Miami #3

    Defense: Dallas #6, Miami #13

    Special Teams: Dallas #7, Miami #17

    SOS: Dallas #29, Miami #31

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 8:53 PM ET #30

    The last 5 opponents that the Boys and Phins interest me the most. As we all know, the Dolphins defensive epa #'s are off the charts since their bye week. But look at the qb's they've faced...

    Aiden O'Connell, Tim Boyle, Sam Howell(not aging well, he was benched last week), Will Levis(threw only 1 td in a win), and Zack Wilson(got hurt), and Trevor Siemian.

    Is it safe to say that facing Dak with CD Lamb/Brandon Cooks will present a harder challenge?

    The Cowboys in their last 5 games have faced:

    Bryce Young, Sam Howell, Geno Smith, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen. Looks like it's gotten harder each game since week 11.

    Tua is not a bad QB himself. Just off of simple qbr, Tua is #2 at 106, Dak is #3 at 104.

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    The last 5 opponents that the Boys and Phins interest me the most. As we all know, the Dolphins defensive epa #'s are off the charts since their bye week. But look at the qb's they've faced...

    Aiden O'Connell, Tim Boyle, Sam Howell(not aging well, he was benched last week), Will Levis(threw only 1 td in a win), and Zack Wilson(got hurt), and Trevor Siemian.

    Is it safe to say that facing Dak with CD Lamb/Brandon Cooks will present a harder challenge?

    The Cowboys in their last 5 games have faced:

    Bryce Young, Sam Howell, Geno Smith, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen. Looks like it's gotten harder each game since week 11.

    Tua is not a bad QB himself. Just off of simple qbr, Tua is #2 at 106, Dak is #3 at 104.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 8:54 PM ET #31

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     Good stuff. Is Hankins still out?

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     Good stuff. Is Hankins still out?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 9:00 PM ET #32

    @undermysac

    Hankins has a high ankle sprain, so most likely out a few weeks.

    I'm guessing they save him for the playoffs peace_5

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    Hankins has a high ankle sprain, so most likely out a few weeks.

    I'm guessing they save him for the playoffs peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 9:02 PM ET #33

    All this high ankle sprain talk....are you guys thinking what Im thinking?

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    All this high ankle sprain talk....are you guys thinking what Im thinking?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 9:16 PM ET #34

    @trainwreck66

    About sucking cock?

    Yes peace_5

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    About sucking cock?

    Yes peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 9:16 PM ET #35

    Lastly, the Cowboys and Dolphins have had 8 common opponents this year.

    Dallas has a +17.31 pt differential margin in those games, Miami has a +7.75 margin. 

    Time for dinner and bed.

    I'll probably bet the Cowboys tomorrow and hope for the best 

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    Lastly, the Cowboys and Dolphins have had 8 common opponents this year.

    Dallas has a +17.31 pt differential margin in those games, Miami has a +7.75 margin. 

    Time for dinner and bed.

    I'll probably bet the Cowboys tomorrow and hope for the best 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 10:00 PM ET #36

    First look weather:

    Saturday 4:30 Bengals @ Steelers 45F, 20% chance of rain showers, winds 5 mph

    Sunday at 1:

    Seahawks @ Titans 61F, 30% chance of showers, winds 9 mph

    Redskins @ Jets 46F, 3% chance of rain, winds 7 mph

    Packers @ Panthers, 57F, 4% chance of rain showers, winds 7 mph

    @ 4:05:

    Jags @ Bucs 71F, 10% chance of rain showers, winds 12 mph

    Cards @ Bears 49F, 63% chance of rain (likely), winds 13 mph

     Cowboys @ Dolphins 73F, 11% chance of rain, winds 13 mph

    @ 8:15

    Patriots @ Broncos 36F, 34% chance of snow, 10 mph

    Christmas Day:

    1 PM Raiders @ Chiefs 54F, 42% chance of rain, winds 12 mph

    4:30 PM Giants @ Eagles 48F, 10% chance of rain, winds 6 mph

    8:15 PM Ravens @ 49ers 54F, slight chance of drizzle, winds 7 mph 

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    First look weather:

    Saturday 4:30 Bengals @ Steelers 45F, 20% chance of rain showers, winds 5 mph

    Sunday at 1:

    Seahawks @ Titans 61F, 30% chance of showers, winds 9 mph

    Redskins @ Jets 46F, 3% chance of rain, winds 7 mph

    Packers @ Panthers, 57F, 4% chance of rain showers, winds 7 mph

    @ 4:05:

    Jags @ Bucs 71F, 10% chance of rain showers, winds 12 mph

    Cards @ Bears 49F, 63% chance of rain (likely), winds 13 mph

     Cowboys @ Dolphins 73F, 11% chance of rain, winds 13 mph

    @ 8:15

    Patriots @ Broncos 36F, 34% chance of snow, 10 mph

    Christmas Day:

    1 PM Raiders @ Chiefs 54F, 42% chance of rain, winds 12 mph

    4:30 PM Giants @ Eagles 48F, 10% chance of rain, winds 6 mph

    8:15 PM Ravens @ 49ers 54F, slight chance of drizzle, winds 7 mph 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2023 - 10:09 PM ET #37

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    I was thinking baby steps and start with rails of cocks and see what happens but Im totally down as well as others here peace_5

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    I was thinking baby steps and start with rails of cocks and see what happens but Im totally down as well as others here peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2023 - 6:27 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by trainwreck66:

    If he cuts his hair there is no way Cher does the Mask sequel with him ...thats the shame of it all....Rocky Dennis deserves better
     peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by trainwreck66:

    If he cuts his hair there is no way Cher does the Mask sequel with him ...thats the shame of it all....Rocky Dennis deserves better
     peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2023 - 7:16 AM ET #39

    The books certainly know that Seattle was is gonna get strong backing and yet they opened it under 3 may be telling. As BD pointed out what is their plan going forward going to be? We know Will Levis is going to give it his all because he still has to prove himself but will the rest of the team give a hoot, will they give Henry the ball 16 times? This game may require a clothes pin a pint of whiskey and a wager. reallyhappy

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    The books certainly know that Seattle was is gonna get strong backing and yet they opened it under 3 may be telling. As BD pointed out what is their plan going forward going to be? We know Will Levis is going to give it his all because he still has to prove himself but will the rest of the team give a hoot, will they give Henry the ball 16 times? This game may require a clothes pin a pint of whiskey and a wager. reallyhappy

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2023 - 8:44 AM ET #40

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     The Titans are the only side to play in this game, or just leave it alone.

    peace_5

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     The Titans are the only side to play in this game, or just leave it alone.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2023 - 8:54 AM ET #41

    If i'm Harbaugh i put the carrot in front the donkey and tell the team if we win this game and take care of business against Miami the last game against Steelers will be meaningless and some starters that are banged up a little or could use a rest will sit out and have the following bye week off.He's gonna have to have them motivated to be 3000 miles away from family on Xmas day for a game that is more sexy than important. 

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    If i'm Harbaugh i put the carrot in front the donkey and tell the team if we win this game and take care of business against Miami the last game against Steelers will be meaningless and some starters that are banged up a little or could use a rest will sit out and have the following bye week off.He's gonna have to have them motivated to be 3000 miles away from family on Xmas day for a game that is more sexy than important. 

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1]If i'm Harbaugh i put the carrot in front the donkey and tell the team if we win this game and take care of business against Miami the last game against Steelers will be meaningless and some starters that are banged up a little or could use a rest will sit out and have the following bye week off.He's gonna have to have them motivated to be 3000 miles away from family on Xmas day for a game that is more sexy than important.[/Quote

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1]If i'm Harbaugh i put the carrot in front the donkey and tell the team if we win this game and take care of business against Miami the last game against Steelers will be meaningless and some starters that are banged up a little or could use a rest will sit out and have the following bye week off.He's gonna have to have them motivated to be 3000 miles away from family on Xmas day for a game that is more sexy than important.[/Quote

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1]If i'm Harbaugh i put the carrot in front the donkey and tell the team if we win this game and take care of business against Miami the last game against Steelers will be meaningless and some starters that are banged up a little or could use a rest will sit out and have the following bye week off.He's gonna have to have them motivated to be 3000 miles away from family on Xmas day for a game that is more sexy than important.[/Quote

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1]If i'm Harbaugh i put the carrot in front the donkey and tell the team if we win this game and take care of business against Miami the last game against Steelers will be meaningless and some starters that are banged up a little or could use a rest will sit out and have the following bye week off.He's gonna have to have them motivated to be 3000 miles away from family on Xmas day for a game that is more sexy than important.[/Quote

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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2023 - 12:30 PM ET #44

    This thread smells like excuses peace_5

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    This thread smells like excuses peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2023 - 1:36 PM ET #45

    I’m rooting for the 49ers. thumbs_up

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    I’m rooting for the 49ers. thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2023 - 1:57 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    This thread smells like excuses

    We wouldnt need to throw on  ur trash defense...

    #11  Keeps u from giving up 30 points every week..

    Can ur trash D stop the Phins...an_wink

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    This thread smells like excuses

    We wouldnt need to throw on  ur trash defense...

    #11  Keeps u from giving up 30 points every week..

    Can ur trash D stop the Phins...an_wink

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2023 - 2:00 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrax:

    I’m rooting for the 49ers.

    Shocking an_eek2

    Go 5 max  or all in...thejester

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrax:

    I’m rooting for the 49ers.

    Shocking an_eek2

    Go 5 max  or all in...thejester

     
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    This is great info on the Jags offense so far :

    The Jags have completed more passes on receiver screens than any team in the league but are dead last in success rate on those plays.

    The Jags EPA on running plays is #30 in the league despite the fact that Etienne is still #1 on forced missed tackles on runs/receptions. 

    When the Jags run between the tackles they are #32 in EPA, when running outside the tackles they barely exceed league average to the left but still remain slightly below to the right.

    Conclusions?

    First and foremost the offensive line sucks especially the interior.

    Secondly OC Press Taylor has a limited acumen of what to call. When in doubt, just throw a bubble screen to Engram/Ridley/Kirk etc. even though the defense isn't fooled. Ravens head coach Harbaugh was asked about stopping the Jags on the last play of the 1st half last week. "Our defense was ready for it. We see that all the time." The play by the way was a receiver screen which was completed in bounds for no gain before time ran out. Apparently everyone has enough film on the Jags offense to know the bubble screen is their ill advised go to. 

    This is a team on the edge of a cliff and if they don't mix things up they're screwed. I'm not confident this late in the season... 

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    This is great info on the Jags offense so far :

    The Jags have completed more passes on receiver screens than any team in the league but are dead last in success rate on those plays.

    The Jags EPA on running plays is #30 in the league despite the fact that Etienne is still #1 on forced missed tackles on runs/receptions. 

    When the Jags run between the tackles they are #32 in EPA, when running outside the tackles they barely exceed league average to the left but still remain slightly below to the right.

    Conclusions?

    First and foremost the offensive line sucks especially the interior.

    Secondly OC Press Taylor has a limited acumen of what to call. When in doubt, just throw a bubble screen to Engram/Ridley/Kirk etc. even though the defense isn't fooled. Ravens head coach Harbaugh was asked about stopping the Jags on the last play of the 1st half last week. "Our defense was ready for it. We see that all the time." The play by the way was a receiver screen which was completed in bounds for no gain before time ran out. Apparently everyone has enough film on the Jags offense to know the bubble screen is their ill advised go to. 

    This is a team on the edge of a cliff and if they don't mix things up they're screwed. I'm not confident this late in the season... 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2023 - 3:11 PM ET #49

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    good stuff man.  it was a comedy of errors in that first half last week peace_5

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    TY  peace_5

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    good stuff man.  it was a comedy of errors in that first half last week peace_5

    @sportschat

    TY  peace_5

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2023 - 3:12 PM ET #50

    @Getty3

     Sounds like Press Taylor and Luke Getsy have a lot in common. 

    peace_5

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    @Getty3

     Sounds like Press Taylor and Luke Getsy have a lot in common. 

    peace_5

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