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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 7:37 PM ET #276

    @BIGDTITLE

     Agree with you and JDD that some guys are better off as "elite" backup QBs. Minshew has accepted that role and Baker could do the same. Every QB driven team that's a Super Bowl contender next year would be wise to spend up to sign a Cashew or a Baker as an insurance policy. Neither guy can carry a bad team for a whole season but the level of play under center (on a good team) would not significantly hurt the team.

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    @BIGDTITLE

     Agree with you and JDD that some guys are better off as "elite" backup QBs. Minshew has accepted that role and Baker could do the same. Every QB driven team that's a Super Bowl contender next year would be wise to spend up to sign a Cashew or a Baker as an insurance policy. Neither guy can carry a bad team for a whole season but the level of play under center (on a good team) would not significantly hurt the team.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 7:48 PM ET #277

    I saw this coming 2 weeks ago and it's come to fruition : The week 18 game between Jax and Tenny will be for the AFC South and hosting a 1st round playoff game. The results of next week will be inconsequential. Titans are +10 at home vs. Dallas on TNF and the Jags are just -4 at Houston. Will be interesting. 

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    I saw this coming 2 weeks ago and it's come to fruition : The week 18 game between Jax and Tenny will be for the AFC South and hosting a 1st round playoff game. The results of next week will be inconsequential. Titans are +10 at home vs. Dallas on TNF and the Jags are just -4 at Houston. Will be interesting. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 8:08 PM ET #278

    Russ and Zack have not done the Wilson name proud 

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    Russ and Zack have not done the Wilson name proud 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 8:12 PM ET #279

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Russ and Zack have not done the Wilson name proud

     

    I’ll give you Russ this year…….but he’s got a ring and a hell of a lot more success in the league than Zack will ever have

    Freedom road was a one-way street
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Russ and Zack have not done the Wilson name proud

     

    I’ll give you Russ this year…….but he’s got a ring and a hell of a lot more success in the league than Zack will ever have

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 8:12 PM ET #280

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     The Texans "given no fucks" parade has now lasted 3 straight games. Vs Dallas, KC, and Tennessee. When does this strain of motivation run dry? It could have yesterday, not sure.

    Interestingly, with the win they have now put their #1 draft status at risk. Especially if they get another W. Lovie could absolutely fuck that up for the franchise, shit he might if he's not going to coach there next year.

    The Bears are losing out. They put a slough of players on IR that could still play if their situation was different. Fields had only 7 carries on Sunday. The memo is in to not get hurt.

    If the Bears get the #1, I suspect that they trade it for a 1st and 2nd round pick to any suitor who wants "that" qb before the Texans.

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    @Getty3

     The Texans "given no fucks" parade has now lasted 3 straight games. Vs Dallas, KC, and Tennessee. When does this strain of motivation run dry? It could have yesterday, not sure.

    Interestingly, with the win they have now put their #1 draft status at risk. Especially if they get another W. Lovie could absolutely fuck that up for the franchise, shit he might if he's not going to coach there next year.

    The Bears are losing out. They put a slough of players on IR that could still play if their situation was different. Fields had only 7 carries on Sunday. The memo is in to not get hurt.

    If the Bears get the #1, I suspect that they trade it for a 1st and 2nd round pick to any suitor who wants "that" qb before the Texans.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 8:16 PM ET #281

    the mains is FULL of bomb this and max play that.   I have to fade it

     

     

    Bucs -7.5  -105

    2u

     

    GL

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    the mains is FULL of bomb this and max play that.   I have to fade it

     

     

    Bucs -7.5  -105

    2u

     

    GL

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 8:20 PM ET #282

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    they are 100% set up for success if in fact that plays out the way you describe.  addition by subtraction year for them and they found their QB. however, and you know this all too well, they are still the bears and are they smart enough to not fuck it up yet again ?     an_popcorn

     

    I'm sure ODB will have some thoughts shortly       lol 

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    they are 100% set up for success if in fact that plays out the way you describe.  addition by subtraction year for them and they found their QB. however, and you know this all too well, they are still the bears and are they smart enough to not fuck it up yet again ?     an_popcorn

     

    I'm sure ODB will have some thoughts shortly       lol 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 8:31 PM ET #283

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    The new gm Ryan Poles has a lot of pressure on him, to break years of bad tendencies by previous regimes.

    What he's done so far I am fine with. 2022 was the tear down. The Bears have the most cap space of any team, and have recovered some of the thrown out draft picks by Ryan Pace.

    The rebuild will be easier with not having to look for a new qb. That's a huge hurdle not having to be made.

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    The new gm Ryan Poles has a lot of pressure on him, to break years of bad tendencies by previous regimes.

    What he's done so far I am fine with. 2022 was the tear down. The Bears have the most cap space of any team, and have recovered some of the thrown out draft picks by Ryan Pace.

    The rebuild will be easier with not having to look for a new qb. That's a huge hurdle not having to be made.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 8:32 PM ET #284

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     I haven't seen the bomb plays, but I am on the Bucs as well.  They are the last leg on a ML Parlay with the Bengals and the first leg of another ML Parlay with the Chargers.  I somehow got them at -275 ML very early in the week.  Closed at -363.  Had I known it was gonna run $1 then I may have bet more.....

    They look good early.  Tristan Wirfs is back.  Brady already took a shot downfield, and Rachaad White is starting instead of lumpy pants Fournette.

    Arizona sacked Denver 7 times last week. But only 1 vs Pats the week before.  

    Just hoping Tampa TCB tonight, it is basically a must win against a 4 win team which is 1-7 at home and on the 3rd string QB making his first career start.  Just cmon, don't fuck me lol.

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     I haven't seen the bomb plays, but I am on the Bucs as well.  They are the last leg on a ML Parlay with the Bengals and the first leg of another ML Parlay with the Chargers.  I somehow got them at -275 ML very early in the week.  Closed at -363.  Had I known it was gonna run $1 then I may have bet more.....

    They look good early.  Tristan Wirfs is back.  Brady already took a shot downfield, and Rachaad White is starting instead of lumpy pants Fournette.

    Arizona sacked Denver 7 times last week. But only 1 vs Pats the week before.  

    Just hoping Tampa TCB tonight, it is basically a must win against a 4 win team which is 1-7 at home and on the 3rd string QB making his first career start.  Just cmon, don't fuck me lol.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 8:37 PM ET #285

    The Cardinals are throwing the kitchen sink at TB.

    Why do I have the feeling that BigRed has followed Trace Mcsorely since he was 12 years old?

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    The Cardinals are throwing the kitchen sink at TB.

    Why do I have the feeling that BigRed has followed Trace Mcsorely since he was 12 years old?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 9:54 PM ET #286

    such a gross game.  

    Now I am happy I only have a unit on each of these parlays

    I should have bet the under lol.  I hate totals.

    Bucs should be up a bunch.  Stupid penalties and missed throws

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    such a gross game.  

    Now I am happy I only have a unit on each of these parlays

    I should have bet the under lol.  I hate totals.

    Bucs should be up a bunch.  Stupid penalties and missed throws

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 10:00 PM ET #287

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    @JDD  So many northern people moved to Florida and still hold their allegiances. Jaguars have always had the same "problem" of visiting fans taking over the stadium but at least the seats are filled. I swear the only Florida sports team which fills the stadium with their own fans are the TB Lightning. Nobody plays with a worse home field than the Chargers/Rams though. LA doesn't have football fans. Never has never will.

     

    That is increasingly not the case. I'm a season ticket holder for the Chargers, and the narrative that the Chargers "have no fans" is running dry. It picked up steam the last few years when the team was on the verge of their SD exodus to LA, and then much visibly so when they played at the soccer stadium, the StubHub center. I wasn't a season ticket holder for that stadium, but tickets were outrageous. Friends of mine that were fans of the team always felt the dilemma of selling their tickets for 4 times what they were with for the marquee games. That's where the narrative comes from. A lot of brokers bought up the tickets and sold for a profit. Some of average Charger fans did too. It's tempting to sell off tickets for one or two games to end up paying the bill on the season tickets.

    At SoFi, it's a much different story. Tickets are more affordable in the 400 and 500 sections. I'm in the 300s, and we do everything right -- hardly sell tickets and, if we do, sell them to other Charger fans; make noise on 3d and 4th downs when the opposing team has the ball; and talk friendly shit to opposing fans. (Don't confuse as with Raider fans.)

    I can't attest to the Rams fanbase, but they were a little stronger from the jump. (History in LA and alla' that.) Sure, both fanbases see a large swatch of opposing fans when the Cowboys, Packers, Raiders, Chiefs, and Steelers come to town, but that'll always be the case because it's winter football in SoCal.

    And, LA definitely has football fans. Come to a USC or UCLA game. LA has football fans, but a lot of them swore their allegiances to other teams during the 20+ year football void in L.A. Shit, I've seen fans of other teams wearing the other teams' jersey watching a game at SoFI when their team wasn't playing. There's plenty of fans that are a mix of fans who already had allegiances for the Chargers and Rams, new converts, people are who are still fans of other teams, and those that have yet to be tapped in. Shoot, the Chargers brought the entire Duck nation with them when they drafted Herbert. If the Rams are smart enough to pick up Caleb Huntley, they'll help them lure in the Trojan fan without an allegiance to an NFL team. 

    Anyway, /rantover. Just wanted to squash tropes that have no business existing any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    @JDD  So many northern people moved to Florida and still hold their allegiances. Jaguars have always had the same "problem" of visiting fans taking over the stadium but at least the seats are filled. I swear the only Florida sports team which fills the stadium with their own fans are the TB Lightning. Nobody plays with a worse home field than the Chargers/Rams though. LA doesn't have football fans. Never has never will.

     

    That is increasingly not the case. I'm a season ticket holder for the Chargers, and the narrative that the Chargers "have no fans" is running dry. It picked up steam the last few years when the team was on the verge of their SD exodus to LA, and then much visibly so when they played at the soccer stadium, the StubHub center. I wasn't a season ticket holder for that stadium, but tickets were outrageous. Friends of mine that were fans of the team always felt the dilemma of selling their tickets for 4 times what they were with for the marquee games. That's where the narrative comes from. A lot of brokers bought up the tickets and sold for a profit. Some of average Charger fans did too. It's tempting to sell off tickets for one or two games to end up paying the bill on the season tickets.

    At SoFi, it's a much different story. Tickets are more affordable in the 400 and 500 sections. I'm in the 300s, and we do everything right -- hardly sell tickets and, if we do, sell them to other Charger fans; make noise on 3d and 4th downs when the opposing team has the ball; and talk friendly shit to opposing fans. (Don't confuse as with Raider fans.)

    I can't attest to the Rams fanbase, but they were a little stronger from the jump. (History in LA and alla' that.) Sure, both fanbases see a large swatch of opposing fans when the Cowboys, Packers, Raiders, Chiefs, and Steelers come to town, but that'll always be the case because it's winter football in SoCal.

    And, LA definitely has football fans. Come to a USC or UCLA game. LA has football fans, but a lot of them swore their allegiances to other teams during the 20+ year football void in L.A. Shit, I've seen fans of other teams wearing the other teams' jersey watching a game at SoFI when their team wasn't playing. There's plenty of fans that are a mix of fans who already had allegiances for the Chargers and Rams, new converts, people are who are still fans of other teams, and those that have yet to be tapped in. Shoot, the Chargers brought the entire Duck nation with them when they drafted Herbert. If the Rams are smart enough to pick up Caleb Huntley, they'll help them lure in the Trojan fan without an allegiance to an NFL team. 

    Anyway, /rantover. Just wanted to squash tropes that have no business existing any longer.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 10:02 PM ET #288

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Zone defense is supposed to prevent YAC, the Packers defense didn't get that memo. Why not use cover 3 man like the Niners, Chargers and Bills did? Cover those WR's right off the bat, and make Tua beat you with his noodle arm. Jmo. Merry Christmas guys


    The blueprint was there, but they finally got to Tua to make it a ballgame. Packers hopes to make the playoffs are still alive for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Zone defense is supposed to prevent YAC, the Packers defense didn't get that memo. Why not use cover 3 man like the Niners, Chargers and Bills did? Cover those WR's right off the bat, and make Tua beat you with his noodle arm. Jmo. Merry Christmas guys


    The blueprint was there, but they finally got to Tua to make it a ballgame. Packers hopes to make the playoffs are still alive for now.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 10:24 PM ET #289

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     since he was 17....HS legend  ...NV....decent at Penn St...

    looks terrible 2night.....

    Zona looks like the Ravens offense...a joke....sad

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     since he was 17....HS legend  ...NV....decent at Penn St...

    looks terrible 2night.....

    Zona looks like the Ravens offense...a joke....sad

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 10:27 PM ET #290

    Caleb Williams  USC...QB...if they could get him....peace_5

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    Caleb Williams  USC...QB...if they could get him....peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 10:48 PM ET #291

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    the mains is FULL of bomb this and max play that.   I have to fade it     Bucs -7.5  -105 2u   GL

    should have gone with my initial lean of staying the hell away from this trainwreck but saw way too many people saying GOY on Cards I got fade happy 

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    the mains is FULL of bomb this and max play that.   I have to fade it     Bucs -7.5  -105 2u   GL

    should have gone with my initial lean of staying the hell away from this trainwreck but saw way too many people saying GOY on Cards I got fade happy 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2022 - 11:16 PM ET #292

    gee. look at that.  another costly turnover that gives Brady more than enough time to win a game they shouldn't.  I swear this guy sold his soul long ago 

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    gee. look at that.  another costly turnover that gives Brady more than enough time to win a game they shouldn't.  I swear this guy sold his soul long ago 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2022 - 12:04 AM ET #293

    Brady has the benefit of playing in the NFC South, where the next best teams are 6-9. I'd say, in the post-Rhule half of the season, the Panthers are the better team. Definitely the more exciting the team of the two.

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    Brady has the benefit of playing in the NFC South, where the next best teams are 6-9. I'd say, in the post-Rhule half of the season, the Panthers are the better team. Definitely the more exciting the team of the two.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2022 - 8:24 AM ET #294

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    I saw this coming 2 weeks ago and it's come to fruition : The week 18 game between Jax and Tenny will be for the AFC South and hosting a 1st round playoff game. The results of next week will be inconsequential. Titans are +10 at home vs. Dallas on TNF and the Jags are just -4 at Houston. Will be interesting.
    A Jags Ravens 1st round could shake out. reallyhappy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    I saw this coming 2 weeks ago and it's come to fruition : The week 18 game between Jax and Tenny will be for the AFC South and hosting a 1st round playoff game. The results of next week will be inconsequential. Titans are +10 at home vs. Dallas on TNF and the Jags are just -4 at Houston. Will be interesting.
    A Jags Ravens 1st round could shake out. reallyhappy

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2022 - 9:48 AM ET #295

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Caleb Williams  USC...QB...if they could get him....

    Baker/Kyler Jr.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Caleb Williams  USC...QB...if they could get him....

    Baker/Kyler Jr.  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2022 - 10:02 AM ET #296

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     GB -3(-115)

    That hook is coming 

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    @BIGDTITLE

     GB -3(-115)

    That hook is coming 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2022 - 10:10 AM ET #297

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     Caleb Williams can play n any system....

    Started as a freshman at local private school power Gonzaga..DC

    He was 14.....an_eek2

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    @BWS77

     Caleb Williams can play n any system....

    Started as a freshman at local private school power Gonzaga..DC

    He was 14.....an_eek2

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2022 - 11:02 AM ET #298

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     Russ’s QBR yesterday 3.6.  Out of 100

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     Russ’s QBR yesterday 3.6.  Out of 100

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2022 - 11:05 AM ET #299

    Every team that "had to" win to stay alive for the 7 seed lost this weekend. Jets, Patriots, Raiders, Lions, Commanders, Falcons, Giants, Seahawks and Titans.

    A couple of those still have a chance, but you get it.

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    Every team that "had to" win to stay alive for the 7 seed lost this weekend. Jets, Patriots, Raiders, Lions, Commanders, Falcons, Giants, Seahawks and Titans.

    A couple of those still have a chance, but you get it.

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2022 - 11:07 AM ET #300

    The Raiders have now led by 7 or more points at halftime 5 times this year, and lost those 5 games. An nfl record

    an_clap

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    The Raiders have now led by 7 or more points at halftime 5 times this year, and lost those 5 games. An nfl record

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