The Ravens won the week 2 matchup in Cincinnati by 3. The Ravens are 7-3 and Bengals are 5-4, so a huge game in the AFC North where by records alone it looks like any team can win it. From a peripheral stand point, the Afc North looks like the best division in football.
The Ravens still boast the best dvoa ranking in the nfl. But yet look like they have problems closing some games late. Here's a cool article from dvoa.
I don't know what to do with this game at this #. And it's a Thursday game, in honor of Club Dirt, we pass on all TNF games.
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Teams on bye: Falcons, Saints, Patriots, Colts
TNF:
Bengals @ Ravens -3.5 (46)
The Ravens won the week 2 matchup in Cincinnati by 3. The Ravens are 7-3 and Bengals are 5-4, so a huge game in the AFC North where by records alone it looks like any team can win it. From a peripheral stand point, the Afc North looks like the best division in football.
The Ravens still boast the best dvoa ranking in the nfl. But yet look like they have problems closing some games late. Here's a cool article from dvoa.
Good lord, please keep this game off the tv's and redzone channel please.
Some may think that this is the time to back the gmen, you have to at some point right? But how can you? Getty keeps posting historically bad stats. They seam to be breaking astonishing bad records every week. They don't have a QB. They're o line is horrific. To put it into perspective, the Ravens are 44.8% dvoa. The Giants are -47.3%. What would that spread be? -21.5 or even more?
The Commanders won(ats) in amazing fashion last week. They were down by 7 till the very end when Sam Howell launched a pass to Dyami Brown with 52 seconds left to tie it up. Looked like no one wanted to tackle him. Then Seattle won on a fg as time expired.
I can't find motivation for either side. Gun to head, fade the Giants and make them prove they aren't the dumpster fire that they are.
NYG @ COMMANDERS -10 (37.5)
Good lord, please keep this game off the tv's and redzone channel please.
Some may think that this is the time to back the gmen, you have to at some point right? But how can you? Getty keeps posting historically bad stats. They seam to be breaking astonishing bad records every week. They don't have a QB. They're o line is horrific. To put it into perspective, the Ravens are 44.8% dvoa. The Giants are -47.3%. What would that spread be? -21.5 or even more?
The Commanders won(ats) in amazing fashion last week. They were down by 7 till the very end when Sam Howell launched a pass to Dyami Brown with 52 seconds left to tie it up. Looked like no one wanted to tackle him. Then Seattle won on a fg as time expired.
I can't find motivation for either side. Gun to head, fade the Giants and make them prove they aren't the dumpster fire that they are.
Sean McDermott has now fired both his DC and OC in less than a year's time. This with one of the best rosters in the NFL. Someone needs to take a look in the mirror. I won't be buying a Bills bounceback against the Eagles. To the contrary I'll hammer Filthadelphia.
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Sean McDermott has now fired both his DC and OC in less than a year's time. This with one of the best rosters in the NFL. Someone needs to take a look in the mirror. I won't be buying a Bills bounceback against the Eagles. To the contrary I'll hammer Filthadelphia.
Oh looky, a winnable game for Miami. At home, off a bye, vs a sub .500 team. Wait, the Raiders are 5-5 and in 2nd place in the Afc west behind the Chiefs? Wow the Chargers suck.
The Raiders are 2-0 since firing Josh McDaniels. But let's get real here, those were both at home and vs the Giants and Jets. Basically not facing nfl caliber qb's. Purdue star Aiden O'Connell has only 1 td pass in those 2 games.
Someone comes back to Earth this Sunday, and it's probably not the Fish. The spread says so.
Past history has shown us that big favorites in the nfl are a good bet. I'd have to say that Miami will be a popular teaser leg this Sunday.
The Afc North is Miami's for the taking. The Bills are a mess, and their schedule looks like a cake walk until week 16(home vs Cowboys), week 17(@ Baltimore).
Raiders @ Dolphins -13 (46)
Oh looky, a winnable game for Miami. At home, off a bye, vs a sub .500 team. Wait, the Raiders are 5-5 and in 2nd place in the Afc west behind the Chiefs? Wow the Chargers suck.
The Raiders are 2-0 since firing Josh McDaniels. But let's get real here, those were both at home and vs the Giants and Jets. Basically not facing nfl caliber qb's. Purdue star Aiden O'Connell has only 1 td pass in those 2 games.
Someone comes back to Earth this Sunday, and it's probably not the Fish. The spread says so.
Past history has shown us that big favorites in the nfl are a good bet. I'd have to say that Miami will be a popular teaser leg this Sunday.
The Afc North is Miami's for the taking. The Bills are a mess, and their schedule looks like a cake walk until week 16(home vs Cowboys), week 17(@ Baltimore).
Are the books talking to us here? After getting drubed by the Niners 3-34 they are now laying 6.5? Interesting that they didn't open this one 7 imo. That makes me pause, but perhaps that's why they made it under a td to get people to second guessing.
This will be the Titans 3rd consecutive road game. They've lost 4 of their last 5, winning only at home vs the Falcons after their bye, and you guys know what I think of the Falcons.
The shine of Will Levi's has wore off since that incredible game he had vs the Falcons.
Can Trevor shake off that performance vs the Niners? Will Pederson rally the troops after getting embarrassed? He has to, there's only one way to bet this game. I'd suspect you gotta get it soon before it hits 7.
Still plenty to talk about in this matchup. I'm sure Getty will give us some insight. BTW, has anybody else noticed how worn down and slow Derrick Henry looks? That dude has more miles than anyone on that big ole frame.
Titans @ Getty's -6.5 (40)
Are the books talking to us here? After getting drubed by the Niners 3-34 they are now laying 6.5? Interesting that they didn't open this one 7 imo. That makes me pause, but perhaps that's why they made it under a td to get people to second guessing.
This will be the Titans 3rd consecutive road game. They've lost 4 of their last 5, winning only at home vs the Falcons after their bye, and you guys know what I think of the Falcons.
The shine of Will Levi's has wore off since that incredible game he had vs the Falcons.
Can Trevor shake off that performance vs the Niners? Will Pederson rally the troops after getting embarrassed? He has to, there's only one way to bet this game. I'd suspect you gotta get it soon before it hits 7.
Still plenty to talk about in this matchup. I'm sure Getty will give us some insight. BTW, has anybody else noticed how worn down and slow Derrick Henry looks? That dude has more miles than anyone on that big ole frame.
What a difference a draft pick can make. To hit on the right qb is a very hard thing to do, but the Texans did it. CJ Stroud has to be the rookie of the year leader, and dare I say maybe in the conversation for MVP? Honestly, without him where would the Texans be?
They are 5-4 in second place behind the Jaguars in the Afc south.
The Cardinals won! Good job guys, when the Bears play you in a few weeks it will be the ultimate tankapalooza game. Having Murray and Connor back I'm sure was a jolt. But they beat the Falcons folks, and Heineke got hurt and Desmond Ridder came in late. Murray was 19/32 no td's, 1 int and got sacked twice.
I have this odd feeling that some kind of "sharps" out there will be on Arizona, and no one will know why. Kind of a hard line to bet, feels suckerish to take the Texans. But I could see them wiping the floor with the Cardinals here.
I'd need some good info that resonates to back the Cardinals. Otherwise gun to head, Texans and Stroud all day.
Cardinals @ Texans -4 (48)
What a difference a draft pick can make. To hit on the right qb is a very hard thing to do, but the Texans did it. CJ Stroud has to be the rookie of the year leader, and dare I say maybe in the conversation for MVP? Honestly, without him where would the Texans be?
They are 5-4 in second place behind the Jaguars in the Afc south.
The Cardinals won! Good job guys, when the Bears play you in a few weeks it will be the ultimate tankapalooza game. Having Murray and Connor back I'm sure was a jolt. But they beat the Falcons folks, and Heineke got hurt and Desmond Ridder came in late. Murray was 19/32 no td's, 1 int and got sacked twice.
I have this odd feeling that some kind of "sharps" out there will be on Arizona, and no one will know why. Kind of a hard line to bet, feels suckerish to take the Texans. But I could see them wiping the floor with the Cardinals here.
I'd need some good info that resonates to back the Cardinals. Otherwise gun to head, Texans and Stroud all day.
Spot on with Henry. I've been thinking he's going to hit the RB wall for 2 years running but it's finally here. The guy is a future hall of famer but is now a Lamborghini with 500,000 miles on it. I'll keep my eyes and ears open on the Jags for the next few days. At this moment I see a Jags win without a cover.
Spot on with Henry. I've been thinking he's going to hit the RB wall for 2 years running but it's finally here. The guy is a future hall of famer but is now a Lamborghini with 500,000 miles on it. I'll keep my eyes and ears open on the Jags for the next few days. At this moment I see a Jags win without a cover.
Yay, finally a home dog. Problem here is who the fuck wants to bet the Packers?
It's getting astonishing to me how many bad quarterbacks are in the league, and Jordan Love is one of them.
I can't blame the books for making this line 3. What else are they supposed to do? Let the market settle it.
The only advantage I can see is that we're in November, it should be cold, but is that an advantage for the Packers post Favre/Rodgers? Love is a west coast kid himself.
I have no clue on this game. Talk about it if you like.
LAC -3 @ Packers (44)
Yay, finally a home dog. Problem here is who the fuck wants to bet the Packers?
It's getting astonishing to me how many bad quarterbacks are in the league, and Jordan Love is one of them.
I can't blame the books for making this line 3. What else are they supposed to do? Let the market settle it.
The only advantage I can see is that we're in November, it should be cold, but is that an advantage for the Packers post Favre/Rodgers? Love is a west coast kid himself.
I have no clue on this game. Talk about it if you like.
A scheduling quirk gives the Bears a small advantage here with the big spread. The Bears played on Thursday last week, the Lions play the early game on Thanksgiving vs the Packers.(This reminds me there are 2 other Turkey games, Wash/Dal, SF/Sea).
So extended rest vs a possible look ahead. Shoot, look what happened to the Shrimp last week.
I don't know if this spread means that Justin Fields is playing or not.
I do know that the Bears o line is coming around. They're healthy and should get Nate Davis back at guard. With Cody Whitehair removed, that's a plus.
The Bears run defense is some how the best in the league the last 5 weeks. 1# in rush epa and rush success rate. The Lions like to run a lot, and do it well. David Montgomery gets to show his old team what they're missing. I have to look at the Lions o line injuries, I know that they've been thin recently but looking to get key guys back.
The battle in the trenches will be a good watch alone.
Last week vs the Panthers was the first time the Bears had their slated starters in the secondary playing, including the nickel back.
Personally I like this Lions team a lot. Love how they're built. Love their coach. But I just can't see myself laying 10 vs a divisional team in this situation.
Unless if the line is telling us that Tyson Bagent is starting...it could come down to 7.5 if Fields is named starter.
Bears @ Lions -10 (47)
A scheduling quirk gives the Bears a small advantage here with the big spread. The Bears played on Thursday last week, the Lions play the early game on Thanksgiving vs the Packers.(This reminds me there are 2 other Turkey games, Wash/Dal, SF/Sea).
So extended rest vs a possible look ahead. Shoot, look what happened to the Shrimp last week.
I don't know if this spread means that Justin Fields is playing or not.
I do know that the Bears o line is coming around. They're healthy and should get Nate Davis back at guard. With Cody Whitehair removed, that's a plus.
The Bears run defense is some how the best in the league the last 5 weeks. 1# in rush epa and rush success rate. The Lions like to run a lot, and do it well. David Montgomery gets to show his old team what they're missing. I have to look at the Lions o line injuries, I know that they've been thin recently but looking to get key guys back.
The battle in the trenches will be a good watch alone.
Last week vs the Panthers was the first time the Bears had their slated starters in the secondary playing, including the nickel back.
Personally I like this Lions team a lot. Love how they're built. Love their coach. But I just can't see myself laying 10 vs a divisional team in this situation.
Unless if the line is telling us that Tyson Bagent is starting...it could come down to 7.5 if Fields is named starter.
The Steelers feel like a ticking time bomb ready to explode, and in a bad way. They are the 2022 Vikings waiting to happen.
Their pt differential is -26
Their pythagorean win loss record is 3.7-5.3
But dvoa does back them, being ranked 12th overall. So maybe not as bad as the 2022 Vikings.
What a huge game in the afc north. Both teams are 6-3.
It's a revenge game for Cleveland as they lost in week 2 @ Pitt. If you remember, the Browns were up 3 in the 4th quarter when TJ Watt strip sack fumble recovered his way into the end zone for the win.
Since week 6, Pitt has been better on offense, especially in the run game. Their D has been not all that great.
Since week 6, the Browns defense has been stellar. Their offense has been not all that great.
Should be an ole fashion afc north slugfest, it'd be hard to bet the over even at 36.
And just imagine, if the Ravens lose this Thursday, one of these teams will be tied for first place in the afc north, with the Steelers holding the tie breaker.
Steelers @ Brown -4 (36)
The Steelers feel like a ticking time bomb ready to explode, and in a bad way. They are the 2022 Vikings waiting to happen.
Their pt differential is -26
Their pythagorean win loss record is 3.7-5.3
But dvoa does back them, being ranked 12th overall. So maybe not as bad as the 2022 Vikings.
What a huge game in the afc north. Both teams are 6-3.
It's a revenge game for Cleveland as they lost in week 2 @ Pitt. If you remember, the Browns were up 3 in the 4th quarter when TJ Watt strip sack fumble recovered his way into the end zone for the win.
Since week 6, Pitt has been better on offense, especially in the run game. Their D has been not all that great.
Since week 6, the Browns defense has been stellar. Their offense has been not all that great.
Should be an ole fashion afc north slugfest, it'd be hard to bet the over even at 36.
And just imagine, if the Ravens lose this Thursday, one of these teams will be tied for first place in the afc north, with the Steelers holding the tie breaker.
Our only home divisional dog of the week, and I can't help but lean to McVay. Looks like Stafford will play, even though they got Carson Wentz off of the scrap heap.
Big sos discrepancy, Seattle #24, LAR #7.
Rams off a bye.
The Rams lost their last 3 games, lost 4 of their last 5. The Seahawks won 3 of their last 4. And yet the books hang a line near a pk?
I could only lean Rams
Seahawks -1 @ Rams (46)
Our only home divisional dog of the week, and I can't help but lean to McVay. Looks like Stafford will play, even though they got Carson Wentz off of the scrap heap.
Big sos discrepancy, Seattle #24, LAR #7.
Rams off a bye.
The Rams lost their last 3 games, lost 4 of their last 5. The Seahawks won 3 of their last 4. And yet the books hang a line near a pk?
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